You went to a stripper's house to do...what?

Whatever it was, you wasted both of yours time.

you're a good man OP, knowing a woman's true nature can be used for her own good too

Pretty sure she was a hooker and the writing was probably placed to get more money from dudes. That’s my take anyway.

The fact that you care so much about a random person you met on Tindr speaks volumes about how your humanity is still intact.

None of us have actually met this person so you probably shouldn’t listen to us but in my experience, it’s usually the Bill Gates and Elon Musk types of men who actually help people in meaningful ways.

Still, if she affected you to such a point that you had to rant about it over here, maybe you SHOULD help her.

Not saving hr is a great decision these chicks are masters of manipulation. They could take your ass before you know what the hell hit you.

I don't understand. Tinder is like an escort service, but it's free. The girls on there are having as much sex as strippers and escorts whether or not they're actually having sex-for-money like actual prostitutes. The girls on there are horny and they want you to come and fuck them. It's a hook-up app. As long as she's clear that you're not there to pay to have sex, you're supposed to hook-up with her and then leave. You should be using the same precautions to avoid STDs with tinder sluts that you would use with actual prostitutes. Maybe one has a job in the marketing department and fucks hundreds of guys for fun, and another one has a job in the amateur porn industry and fucks dozens of guys..... Either go over there and bang the stripper / escort for free or don't go over there at all.

Tinder isn't where you go to do charity outreach. Join a church or charity org if that's your thing.

She made her bed, she can lie in it. She isn't worth your pity or concern, so either pump and dump her or move on because she will never be LTR material.

What exactly are you trying to save her FROM?

What if you grew up in a culture where prostitutes were venerated and admired instead of pitied and despised?

She wasn't asking you to be her boyfriend, or provider, or soul-mate. She was probably just looking for some judgment-free sex with a man she's actually somewhat attracted to, instead of a John who is paying her.

That is what Tinder is FOR.

Of course, brainwashing is hard to combat.

You were literally ASSUMING she wanted to be wifed up. You were assuming that THAT is salvation. But that's part of the brainwashing. She will PROBABLY be fine. Hooking is a lucrative line of work if you can stay away from the drugs, the pimps, and the police. Who, on the other hand, will SAVE you? What is it that people think they can be saved from? Death?

We are all going to die.

The possibility of a reward in the afterlife is uncertain.

So, in life, what are we saving ourselves from? Loneliness? Poverty? A life on the margins?

People can always find a way to be miserable. Salvation comes from within by learning to see the silver lining in whatever circumstance you are placed in.

Anyway, some food for thought. You might reflect on it, and try again, if you just want some sex.

In the immortal words of jcole: Don't save her, she don't wanna be saved.

As someone who's problem before the red pill was excessive whoremongering, fucking LOL at this post. You fell for the oldest trick in the book. Prostitutes will always try to tell newbie Johns some sob story to get you to pay them extra out of pity or even give them monthly sustenance money. Don't feel sorry for the woman, prostitutes are some of the most hardcore users and manipulators you will ever face in the world. You were probably just an easy target to her. If she wants to change, she will do it on her own.

"Don't save her. She don't wanna be saved." - Role Modelz by J Cole.

Guys, for the love of god, don't go into the houses of complete strangers after a 10 minute online chat. You may be robbed or much worse

Leave the dirty work for captain save-a-hoe

FACT: she doesn't want to be saved

Meh.... she just wants attention. Girls like that tend to ignore the constructive advice that would help them, like eating good and working out.

This is some blue pill shit

Man, I've met a lot of girls like this. Typically it's best not to judge them for their pasts. I've heard some pretty haunting stories. These girls have been through a lot. It comes down to holding frame, not being judgmental, while showing leadership and a small amount of comfort. These have been some of the most submissive and down to Earth girls I've met. Their emotional baggage isn't that big of deterrent to me, however these girls almost always have kids, bfs, exes who come around, are very promiscuous, and are generally very hypergamous. She might try to reform herself, but it'll take time. Don't save her but don't add to her despair if you can't handle what she is.

It probably overloaded your protective instincts and tanked your emotional state somewhat while you were simultaneously in a state of heightened and focused sexual arousal.

Sounds like it was just an acute clusterfuck of emotions and sensations that you were not expecting in the slightest. It all came in while you were in a state of openness. It'll pass

I had the chance at sex that other men would pay hundreds for She's a HB6 escort

Pick one. Don't give yourself too much credit for "seducing an escort girl" – if she's a 6, she's a shitty and cheap escort. Considering the red flags, you really dodged not a bullet, but a cartel-size shootout here. Put a candle and say a sermon for your fellow St. Dickolas.

You're looking at this the wrong way. A majority of women probably prostitute themselves at some point in their life. Rather than trying to save them you should disqualify them and focus on the ones that don't, and then vet them for a relationship if that's what you're looking for. Trying to save someone like her is in fact simply projecting your own insecurities.

And yeah, that is how the world operates. Find the gems, discard the shit. Save your emotional efforts for the gems, they deserve it more.

There was a video from some European video crew who were in Vegas filming homeless people. They ran across one chick - a former porn star and a pretty famous one at that. You could tell she's still pretty. She's thin, classy, feminine and demur. But she's a homeless addict as well. It's a god damn shame that a thin, feminine women is going to waste with all these masculine land whales waddling around. But there's nothing that can be done. If somebody Captain Save-a-Ho's her, there's about an 80% chance she won't kick her habits and she'll steal everything from him until he dumps her. Even if she cleans up after he pays for rehab, fixes her teeth and other health problems, she'll still dump his ass once her SMV gets back up there.

It's a suck situation. Things are worse for her than they could be and also worse for some guy who could save her. But there's no upside to saving. So she rots down in the darkness.

Well, you did save yourself so cheer up. Now some other girl can have an intact prize.

Why would you even want to save her?

As someone who's problem before the red pill was excessive whoremongering, fucking LOL at this post. You fell for the oldest trick in the book. Prostitutes will always try to tell newbie Johns some sob story to get you to pay them extra out of pity or even give them monthly sustenance money. Don't feel sorry for the woman, prostitutes are some of the most hardcore users and manipulators you will ever face in the world. You were probably just an easy target to her. If she wants to change, she will do it on her own.

No shame bro, this just means youre more mature and are not bout to fuck any pussy that comes your way. You have emotions don't hide them. Embrace them(in a RP way ofcourse). And fuck girls that are your type, apperently prostitutes aren't your type. Which is better off trust me.

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Leave that savior stuff to a priest or a psychologist. Beyond that, just get your poon and leave.

> I Can't Save Her, Can I?

No. Never.

One thing that I realized after discovering TRP is how shitty life is for women. Their SMV peaks at age 18 and then just goes downhill. By 35 their SMV is basically 0 no matter how successful their career is or how hot they were in their 20s, and so at that point if they haven't found a decent partner they'll either have to settle for a beta shit or cats for the rest of their life.

Not to mention their chance of having kids is dropping like an anchor simply due to biological reasons. The clock is constantly ticking for them and every day they have to look in the mirror and see things going downhill.

Meanwhile being a man you just keep working out, working on career, and your SMV just gets higher and higher.

So yeah, maybe at the age of 20 all your female counterparts were having the time of their lives, going to parties & vip access into clubs, getting chauffered around in limos by rich guys, etc etc while you were sitting at home wondering why no girls would date you. But by age 30 (and then even worse afterwards)... I just start feeling bad lol.

And this is just for the hot ones. For ugly girls it's pretty much flatline hell their entire life unless they get plastic surgery.

Anyway, life isn't fair and will never be fair.

Read the sidebar, lift for 3 months and then come back to the sub, when you're not a little bitch.

"I came to the realization last night and this morning that...I can't save her. Even if I could, why would she want to be saved? Women have an unlimited source of validation, attention, and resources to not face their internal problems. Yes, I had the chance at sex that other men would pay hundreds for, but wouldn't that be feeding into the problem?"

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Save her from what? What "problem" are you talking about?

It sounds like you've been living in some kind of fantasy land or some kind of bubble. I'm glad you got a glimpse into the way the world works. A few more glimpses, and you'll realize that she doesn't want to be saved, doesn't deserve to be saved, and can't be saved.

Good shit man, no you can’t save her. Just went through a breakup with a chick like this one, shit hurt to the core but I saw it coming. The minute I broke frame was the minute the shit went south, it is what it is. Keep on keeping on, only save the ones that won’t raise fucked up kids lol.

can't save her, but your decency showed her there is a better way. maybe she'll think she doesn't deserve it, but maybe she thinks, "you know what I have a choice". Yeah, it pays the bills, but there are other ways to pay the bills. Might not be as easy as lying down on your back, but the journal posts are a lot better. Me, life was easy when I was younger and was a good-looking guy. I'm not bad looking now, but the lack of an established career and life sets me back from guys my age by a lot. anyway, the work I'm doing now isn't as easy as just being cute enough to pull attention like back then, but it's better than just doing nothing and lamenting about it. we have choices.

anyway I gotta say you have some heart. good on you for just being a human being.

You being a human being save you from a lot of mess. Sometimes when we feel sad for other people our bodies are trying to tell us something, also a way for us to survive.

As J Cole once said "Don't save her, she don't wanna be saved"

The only person you can save in this world is yourself, and that is a full-time job with no breaks and no vacations.

Once you realize that, you'll finally be ready to share some space on your liferaft. Never before that

Oh fuck. You got the white knight trigger from hell.

Man, in a past life I was around.a lot of hookers. I now work helping a lot of girls who have been there.

Nah, you can't fix shit. Get away from it. Life's a bitch and there is a lot of ugliness. Become immune to it. Frame control.

To a woman with 100s of sex partners, this one session with you wouldn't have meant much, if anything. Could be fate saved you from an STD, though.

been there too with a girl that was exactly like this. Nothing can really save them. They'll keep doing what they always have done and ya know it's sad to see the potential be reduced to BS because they can't face their own demons. It's sad but you have to remember you can't control anybody.

The best thing they can do with neglecting their choices is to have them be erased, pretend like it never happened.

Women are still humans, even though they are women. My heart has gotten in the way of the hottest fucks I probably would have ever had for similar reasons. I don't know if turning it off is possible sometimes... this is actually one of the hardest truths about TRP I've had to go through, though... if you don't do it, some other guy is *going* to do it... so if you think you can bring a woman up into a better place even just a little bit with your frame, you might as well fucking do it. I've trained a few of my past partners to be much better people than they used to.

Bro, she's a stripper. What did you expect?

Normally I'd say this is one gay ass story, but I'm assuming you are either young or inexperienced so I'll give you a break.

Most women have some dark shit going on if you get them to open up... And most certainly 100% of strippers do.

This is part of man’s nature: to care for and protect women.

All the men that never cared about their women lost their chance of reproduction and were weeded out of the gene pool.

Women also know this which is why they will try to play the sympathy/empathy card to get you to do what they want.

Realise that this is your programming so you know how to act.

Also, remember: most people don’t actually want to be saved.

If she TRULY wanted to be saved, she would have been desperately trying to find solutions to her predicament long before she met you.

Trying to save those who are unwillingly to save themselves first is like trying to save a drug addict who doesn’t really want to quit.

You will have to put INCREDIBLE amounts of time and effort to save them, it will only lead to frustration and wasted efforts.

Why?

Because they never truly wanted to saved.

She made her choices and that’s her problem not yours.

I was in your shoes. I literally can’t bring myself to fuck someone like that.

this is my point everyone on this sub is a little bitch what in the fuck dude

I am 30 and my generation grew with Disney where the damsel in distress and the prince charming saving her of misery shit are deeply wired inside our brains.

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You can't save her, she made her choice with earning easy money, many girls have no decision, but the ''It pays the bills'' line is your exit ticket - the bills can be paid with any job, this job also pays bills for fashion, jewelry and expensive electronics.

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You will waist too much time on damaged goods, awful as is sounds, TRP is amoral, because you know now how women operate and why. It's not your job to save her, some white knight will do it for her.

You don't save a drowning person who is gonna pull you down as they go, you separate and stay safe.

To a woman with 100s of sex partners, this one session with you wouldn't have meant much, if anything. Could be fate saved you from an STD, though.