TL;DR
Go with the flow, sell them what they want to buy and if they say their queer or gay, they only mean for guys who aren't alpha. Relaxed persistence is key and knowing when to break rapport & just walk away establishes value.
Bit of a read but worth IMO.
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So this FR starts with meeting this Asian, let's call her model-bitch. She's a HB7+ in real life who at the time at least was working as a model with a fairly successful local portfolio. Maybe a 8+ in professional photos.
What happened was I went to this party at this hippies house where an old bald creepy guy had basically turned the entire property into a party palace, and he had a mid-40s post marriage alpha roommate that trains BJJ and scoops up whatever he can. The owner has a 40+ girlfriend with 3 kids that aren't his and that connection makes him less creepy. He shares that 40+ chick and regularly flags as a White Knight & Feminist Ally. So be the BJJ alpha not the owner.
Anyways, model-bitch had just gotten dumped by her boyfriend of 2ish years and was looking for dick and she basically plucked me out of the crowd. At the time I didn't have much game, but I have a good look and hot chicks want me as their boyfriend sometimes so we can look cute on IG together (bleh).
What this looked like was saying hi three times and hugging me boobs-to-chest three times over the span of 2-3 minutes in the kitchen while was busy saying hello to people and making a drink for myself.
I played this off at first and then 5-10min later walked around until I found her on a couch with a short guy who I know does pretty well, short guys wall-approaching blue haired hippy slut of a girlfriend (both poly) and then model chick tangled in.
So because I've read TRP once I flipped into this couch and tangled amidst the human limbs without asking any kind of permission. Model bitch was digging it, short guy and bluehair had no choice but to comply.
At this party everyone either fucks upstairs in the area with 8 beds or downstairs in the sex dungeon.
So within about 69 seconds of being on this couch I get bored, nobody else is speaking, and I decide it's time to go upstairs. I say "hey model-bitch, let's go upstairs."
She doesn't say yes and she doesn't say no.
With a Greenflag on the play I stand up, disrupting the entire couch as I did, and then scooped model bitch into my arms like a little baby and carried her upstairs. This place has 3 stories and at story 2 I gassed out and she hopped on my back instead and laughing the rest of the way to 3rd. (Never skip leg day fellas, but it worked out ok)
So upstairs I'm getting it in and thinking to myself the whole time, huh, I remember oggling you before and thinking I could never fuck you. Life is funny and sometimes it can change in a snap.
I somehow managed to keep it up despite there being a fat incel in the corner on a different bed who, in his personal abyss of despair, decided he had to ironically clap for us during sex. It was disruptive not supportive. We both laughed as quietly as we could so as not to accelerate his scheduled suicide attempt next week.
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After this, a few weeks into hooking up, model-bitch invited me to a local comic-con style convention she's been going to for years. She hooks me up with a ticket and a free hotel room. All this time she is hanging off my body, showing me off in the exact same way she's seen men use women for preselection. She is shopping me around this convention in front of her circles of friends clearly trying to prove something to someone and I roll with it because why the fuck not right?
Here's the Magnum Opus of this particular story though. Model-bitch is an extremely loudly self-identifying LBGTQ poly/hippy/feminist type and the room we are staying in has about 6 of her little queer girlfriends in it.
And not a single other male in sight. Cha-ching.
So day #1 when other people weren't in the room I fuck her until period blood stains the white bedsheets that we weren't using. The next day, Friday for some magical reason model-bitch decides to leave to go watch a concert in another part of town for the evening. She did not invite me to the concert so I thought maybe she was going with some other guy (didn't care tho.)
So Friday night at this con is a rave and left to my own devices, I start doing tequila shots and playing Uno while watching K-pop with all of the queer girls who swear they are 100% queer and think guys are yucky.
I walk into the rave with 3 of them laughing, drunk and hanging off of me because I'm the only vertical object in reach that can use to pretend they aren't already falling down drunk. I'm drunk myself and grinning ear to ear, cracking asshole-tier jokes and getting loud, pulling eyes from everyone else in line.
Now one of these queer chicks from the room had been making subtle eyes at me for the last two days. She was a HB8 black chick in fishnets and fake extensions and IMO hotter than the model was. She was subtle though, she wouldn't give direct IOI, she disengaged alot, and remember she's queer and doesn't fuck guys.
But I read body language well and throw my dick at almost anything with a good hip to waist ratio so the game was on.
Once we're walking into the actual rave, fishnets grabs my hand, tells her friends she'll be back and then we walk into the mosh where we grind and dance. At this point it's all hands on booty and she is grinning and having a good time but constantly shutting me down and pushing my hands away from the real assets. I'd settle on the hips for a few, then back to the assets, rinse repeat until we stopped dancing and walked back to the merch area.
Smacked her ass good on the way, and she shoved my hand away again but still isn't stopping me.
Now at this point she throws the curveball. She "knows somebody" at the merch table but "he must be on break rn" so she wants to wait for him. This was like 15 minutes and felt like 30 sitting there holding my dick. But I stuck around, why not, I don't really know anybody else here and she's feeling it I think.
She does end up talking to somebody at the merch table for a bit meanwhile I'm 10 ft. away or so dancing a bit and trying not to die of boredom / trying to figure out when I should walk away and cut my losses.
Fishnets ends up coming back over finally, and I'm ready for a smoke let's go outside.
She comes along and during the cigarette I lay it the fuck out. Everyone is here at the rave, model-bitch isn't here, let's go. We'd had time to sample the rave it was Fuck Or Walk O'clock.
I get hard no's the whole time. Nope. No. Not happening. She's queer, remember? Eventually I shrug it off and I'm like ok cool, I don't need it like that anyways. She tries to shame me over it like I'm an asshole for saying I don't need pussy. Not because I'm trying to fuck her while already fucking her friend but because I'm so full of myself I say I don't need it.
After the cigarette we split for the night, she says she's going back to find her friend at the merch table. I head back to the room to sleep it off. She's back in the room not 30 minutes later so I figure the friend story was bullshit all along.
The next day we are walking around the con again, with model-bitch now, and when she's not within earshot I keep talking to fishnets. She says she isn't going to do anything because I'm with her friend.
Notice how the conversation has changed. It's no longer, I'm gay and don't like boys. It's you are with my friend and I don't want to fuck up my friendship.
Easy. I just tell her we are Poly and leave it at that. We hadn't even talked about being poly because she was only plate material but it wasn't exactly a lie, we weren't monogamous.
So fishnets doesn't put out during the Con at all and we go out separate ways, me thinking it was just another pussy I couldn't lay.
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Two days later I get a text. She's still in town. She's at a hotel with a friend if I wanted to do some shots.
Ding ding ding. Mrs. Queereye was never queer and they never are for a masculine guy. I drive downtown to the hotel she's staying in and she has a male "friend" there. I ask her "friend" for a Bro-move and to fuck off for an hour, he does. Guy seems pretty beta but who knows, they were sharing a room after all.
This is after an hour or so of play tickling, flirting & shots. I push through some weird ass conversation about how fishnets is a sugar baby and she once had a knife held to her throat during sex and blah blah blah. Hood shit or bitch shit I'm not sure which.
We fuck a few times, I sleep over. Fuck her again under the covers in the morning while her beta friend was in the next bed.
After this little miss hardass turns into an absolute pile of goo. Just straight up kawaii adorable princess mode for the remainder of the day, the kind of attitude every man wants out of a girl.
She asks me to ride with her to the airport because she has "social anxiety". I could have easily said no to this but I went anyways. The eyeballs I got from people in line for security was worth the trip.
After all of this I've tried to follow her up on Facebook a couple times, but she lives in Jersey and hasnt been back to the city since then. Oh well. Probably dried her up after the 2nd or 3rd FB followup but there was no harm in trying.
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Aftermath: Model-bitch and I kept hooking up for a few weeks, she even win a sweepstakes at Gaypride day and had put my name on it.
This turned into a waste of money (was one of those pay $500 for a $5000 vacation & our sales pitch things). We both put $250 down already planning out future vacays together. This money turned into ash because of the next paragraph.
But model-bitch was a Red Alert Level slut, as I knew from the jump. She wound up going to a party one weekend and catching some other dick, bragging about it on FB, I saw the post, and she came over the following Tuesday used up with bruises and hickeys.
Still a novice at the game, I was giving her too much time and attention, too many snuggles and sleepovers, etc. I could not rouse myself to fuck her in that state and wound up kicking her out of my apt at 3am because I was stuck in my head and couldn't sleep.
She went batshit over that and texted me for several days asking what she did wrong, I forget what I said here but as soon as I replied / tried to reengage she ghosted. Probably just checking if I was still an option and once she knew I was she was validated and gone.
Case closed.

msammy_is_back 6y ago
Fun party times. You win some you lose some. Sounds the the whole "queer" persona thing is just an excuse to act like total cunts and be total whores - and be like How Dare You? I'm QUEER - which means I'm special and can get away with shit and if you don't accept my shitty personality and lifestyle YOU'RE A BIGOT!
Its all the same bullshit though. Lying game playing liars playing games and being liars. Just ignore them and whip your dick out when the time is appropriate.
Old saying of mine "Pussy is like surfing... You catch a wave, ride it to the shore and then swim back out looking for another good wave"
Imperator_Red 6y ago
Wtf is this? Goddamn this country is overrun by freaks.
AwakenedSovereign 6y ago
Never fucked in front of someone bro?
Orgies are generally, but not always, over-rated.
Imperator_Red 6y ago
I've had my college roommate in the other bed. But no, I've never gone to a party and had a weird dude wacking off in the corner.
AwakenedSovereign 6y ago
Who said he was whacking off? I didn't.
Imperator_Red 6y ago
Oh clapping. My bad. Still weird.
AwakenedSovereign 6y ago
Yes it was. The thought occurred to me to stop but then, he knew where he was. Got over that guilt pretty quick.
I just had never really seen that level of incel before.
Oh well. I like being versatile. Like you I prefer NOT to have an audience but sometimes in today's world that's just the way it happens, and I've never let it stop me.
There's a certain flourish/flex that comes along with fucking a girl well and loudly and not caring who knows.
Some chicks are really into it. In my post history somewhere is another such "fuck in the middle of a drug fueled hippy party" type story and she loved that shit. Pretty much just an ego fuck but whatever.
Gaboyski_ 6y ago
In the end there are really only 2 genders. Any other "identification" bs is nothing but a shit test.
vtr0 6y ago
God is this San Francisco or is the rest of the country also this lost already?
AwakenedSovereign 6y ago
Atlanta.
There are other scenes & options obviously, I stepped away from the hippies 6ish months ago because they are all insane leftists and use too many drugs.
I started rolling with club Bros instead because they use too many drugs but at least they are woke.
But pretty much any Music Festival with Camping is like that at a certain point of night.
Hulaween Bonaroo Burning Man EDC take your pick
studentsensei 6y ago
I'm in Atlanta too and when I read your story I thought to myself "why does this sound familiar?"
Good read.
vtr0 6y ago
I've been at weird stuff like this in SF, but I was hoping the rest of the country would still be sane. There are actual hotties with class in many cities, no need to take leftovers.
AwakenedSovereign 6y ago
Yeah I'm like the dumbest smart guy you'll ever meet. I woke myself up at age 26 once I decided my GF LTR should be squirting when she wasn't.
I then threw myself into the nastiest most sex-affirmative scene I could find, which was regional burn offshoots of Burning Man & hippy/wook culture. Sluts sluts sluts. Drugs. Polyamory. BDSM/kink.
Blue haired feminazis with tattoos and piercings everywhere bleating about equality and wahmenz meanwhile jumping on caveman dick, hoodrat dick and drug dealer dick without any shame because no one is allowed to shame them in those scenes.
But being arrogant, I assumed I could just read TRP and go reign like a king. I was lifting poorly, eating poorly, and trying to make blue pill dreams come true with Redpill tools.. in an environment where bluepill dreams go to die.
This arrogance was further enhanced by a general lack of social experience from highschool and college. It was my "first scene", if you will. I didn't know anything different.
On the bright side, my bluepill dreams are dead. Like super dead. Also now when I walk around in what the hippies call "default world", I am the guy whose been there and done those things and women who haven't gone deep on the abyss yet pick up on that shit and are attracted to the badboy vibes.
"Default World" = any social space where drugs, being poor and bragging about a 14-member train with an audience might be frowned upon.
I cut my teeth in Hell. I've stopped identifying as a hippy or burner (much to the outrage of the hippies), but I'll go back now and then after I've had some breathing room. It's an excellent hunting ground as long as you are Rock Solid with your frame and don't try to turn clay into gold.
[deleted] 6y ago
Dude, this was comment was quite enlightening, well done. I've played on the edge of the hippies/poly folk. Your point about how shame isn't allowed is spot on and turnable to one's advantage.
AwakenedSovereign 6y ago
Thanks.
I'm going to two next month alone. You're right - lack of shame cuts both ways.
Just uhhhh not bringing any turkey to Thanksgiving this time. Should be fun.
tunsku 6y ago
What the fuck is the degenerateville you live in? Good story though.
VasiliyZaitzev 6y ago
Sorry, bro, I didn't know she was with you.
AwakenedSovereign 6y ago
There's leftovers and then there's leftovers.
What I shoulda done was baked her until more time had passed, or made her take a fucking shower. And less sleepovers.
But you go on ahead bro ???? I am very impressed by how important you are.
VasiliyZaitzev 6y ago
The joke was there. Actually, I'm somehow the one white guy in the country who doesn't have the Asian Contagion. It's just not my thing.
AwakenedSovereign 6y ago
Text doesn't translate sometimes. What I read that as was you tryna flex on the internet, or even condemning the fact that I kicked her stanky ass out at 3am.
You aren't her color anyways she spent the next couple weeks posting brags about "big black diction" before I unfriended.
Not sure how you miss the memo on Asian fusion tho. Not just half Asian white girls I mean raised culturally Asians.
Got a 19yo plate right now, -3% bf, B cup perfection. Soft sweet and submissive. Not worth more than a plate but still, she was raised feminine.
VasiliyZaitzev 6y ago
Nah, I was just being funny. Or trying to. In general, I only go after people who deserve it. No disrespect intended.
BurnoutRS 6y ago
Ive yet to meet a real lesbian. They might be out there, I dont know, but the more time I spend on this earth, the more I believe that sexuality is a choice
El_Serpiente_Roja 6y ago
Every real lesbian ive met has been hideous or super dyke..the prettier feminine ones are all full of shit
BurnoutRS 6y ago
but are they "real" lesbians? Or are they individuals who are so deeply ingrained in pathology that they wont even entertain the notion that they are living a lie?
Everyone has a sex drive. A lot of us were born into a "we're all equal, just be yourself, you dont even have to shower if thats not who you are" kind of fantasy world. So under the equality dictum, we're all equally entitled to sex.
Gross Patty, despite the boys telling her that her rolls offer zero boner value, doubles down on her ideology and asserts that shes beautiful as is and entitled to sex. She continues asserting this even though no boys are fucking her. She becomes more and more aggressive in her landwhale pursuits. The process of which, overtime, converts her even more into a hideous bulkdyke.
Imagine a chubby little 12 year old girl who realizes the boys like the skinny girls who developed real tits, and they arent really into her chubby fat lump titties. Now we work through the progression of years. It goes "I want sex" the. she gets rejected and becomes "sad she cant get sex" so she self medicated with hagen das which makes her even more fat and gross. Seeing this, she "knows" she has to be more aggressive in her pursuits.
See how with each subsequent rejection she becomes more disgusting and more masculine? After enough revolutions, I give you, the bull dyke
El_Serpiente_Roja 6y ago
I've seen that play out exactly like you describe actually.
Gaboyski_ 6y ago
It seems that based on OP's field report lesbianism seems to be another shit test. Males would automatically veer away from some woman who declares herself homosexual because they assume she only gets her tingles for other women.
Hjalmbere 6y ago
I’m pretty sure I have. Had a gf back in the day, her bff was a bulldyke.
I remember wondering what her fucking problem was. Eventually I figured out it was my penis and the fact that it was going in and out of her friend who she wanted to play scissors with.
Bulldyke went well out of her way to make herself as unattractive to men as possible so I’m pretty sure she had no interest in us. She was like a caricature of a grade A male neanderthal slob minus the muscles.
halfback910 6y ago
Gay isn't a choice.
Source: Way more men would be gay if it were.
AwakenedSovereign 6y ago
Lots and lots of gays out there who can't get laid with women so they go gay. That is the ONLY reason behind a non-zero percentage of gay men.
I mean I guess technically you're still right, they think they dont have a choice and some are maybe so hopeless they really don't.
[deleted] 6y ago
I wandered into a gay bar accidentally...fuck it, I'm there, I'll have a beer and chat. I told one of the twinks that it must be easier being gay so he doesn't have to deal with women. He just laughed.....pointing out dealing with gay men is hardly different (which I don't believe, entirely anyway). I couldn't imagine enough thirst to rail a tranny never mind another dude.
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Hjalmbere 6y ago
I’m not sure what the moral of the story was, but it was an enjoyable read. Like your style of writing.
XxBeans373 6y ago
I’m not entirely convinced that your success isn’t just because you are hanging out at sex parties and raves. You have to try to not get laid there.
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