Now I’m not going to say it’s easy for everyone or all women won’t shit test you into oblivion but picking up women shouldn’t be difficult. I’ve had no difficulties whatsoever after lifting and maintaining frame and I can always find another girl. I have a few rules I live by that have never let me down:
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She’s flawed in some way: whether you can see it or not that girl you’re fantasizing about nailing on the counter in the bar or at the desk at work has some flaws. She knows it and it’s your job to find them. Once you do you’ll have an easier time gaming her and things will flow more naturally.
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Frame is essential but if lost can be made up for: I’ve had moments recently where I just wasn’t on my game. For example, I ate an edible and went out for drinks, I was ripped and could barely form a sentence. Didn’t matter whatever I said to the bartender worked and she got my number from someone I know that frequents the spot.
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Be mysterious and don’t do all the talking: don’t act like you’re giddy as fuck to talk to a girl it’s not going to turn her on. Sit there, sip your beer and act nonchalant. Respond by being coy and kind of an asshole. If you lift and have frame once this technique is mastered pulling women is like shooting crabs in a bucket.
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Don’t text her too much once you get those digits: I cannot stress this one enough. Text mode=hamster opportunities. She texts you...you wait an hour maybe two to get back. If she texts you again within that time she’s hamstering hard and is thinking about you. If not you need to step your game up.
- Don’t be a pussy just fucking escalate: this one separates the men from the boys. Once she laughs at your shitty jokes or starts giving you body language indicating her interest go for the gold. Don’t waste time.
This is an ever evolving game but these principles will give you a leg up.

keelo44 7y ago
1 was spot on, for all the “flawless” females in have something they’re insecure about, find out what that is and keep it in your head to think about ANYTIME you feel her beauty tits or ass are pulling you out of frame.
AlfredKinsey 7y ago
1 and 5 are the things I emphasize most when I'm trying to help other guys with women.
1 goes a long way in setting your mind straight before going in for the close.
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What do you mean by go for the gold? How would you go for the gold?
unclecrumble 7y ago
The pussy my friend should be self explanatory.
SeyiDALegend 7y ago
Being mysterious only works if you're attractive/ high value in some other way. Better to act as if you have a personality than to not give her a reason to notice you.
EscortSportage 7y ago
Number 5. Is gold! Capitalize on that SHIT!
Rares5555 7y ago
Also, the act of physically picking up women should be easy for you. They see it as one of the hottest things.
Get your reps in, you fucks.
unclecrumble 7y ago
1000x this if you’re not almost twice her size she won’t get the tingles as much
evilgentleman 7y ago
And read PUA books too lol
unclecrumble 7y ago
You don’t need the books this is solely from my experience in the field gaming a very good amount of women in the past 3 years or so. You all must understand no one is an absolute expert at this and some guys are just trying to sell you something. I was a textbook beta, couldn’t keep a girl interested to save my life. Last night I had a gorgeous blonde dripping in her jeans telling me she wouldn’t have sex with me. She did. And she has been texting me frequently hamstering her ass off. Trust me and use these principles in your own life you will see benefit if done correctly. You have to be slightly ripped first and have your wardrobe figured out this will not work if you’re full beta.
Zech4riah 7y ago
Where are you located? This shit doesn't seem to be working in Europe.
Additionally you dont need to find her flaws if you are confident enough.
unclecrumble 7y ago
Idk man I just had a blonde over last night that was superb. Certified 9 nearly 10 and she was still insecure. I fed into it I didn’t compliment her like a supplicating bitch I made fun of her and tried to guess her cup size. She’s not used to guys finding flaws in her. Most men are like little puppies around truly hot women
OfficerWade 7y ago
Number five is my weakest-link. I’m trying to think of ways I can escalate without going into a full frontal sexual assault. I’ve seen the signs where I need to move in but sometimes I fail to act and live in the moment. But I’m gonna be better than ever. My plan is to show these girls a good time and I am the prize.
Damn new age spirituality is getting in the way of all that.
Seven_Veils 7y ago
Is that what it's called nowadays?
Pokeylaw 7y ago
Yeah brah my college just did that whole no touching thing this week I'm scared af
Chad1738 7y ago
Don’t shit where you eat. This goes out to you and to everyone who reads this thinking gaming at your desk at work is acceptable. Keep that shit outside of work.
tempolaca 7y ago
This is one of the worst mistakes I've made. Also: don't fuck your: medic, coworker, boss, dentist and please, never ever never never never fuck your lawyer.
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kiwifx 7y ago
Since I'm leaving my job and the entire town soon, I'm actually thinking about doing this and making an extensive field report to show why you don't do it. Have a girl asking about me, I've already partially vetted her and know she's bad fucking news. It'd the prime opportunity to show in real time why you just don't do this shit.
marian5567 7y ago
I dated a coworker for two years. Don't do that shit
volvostupidshit 7y ago
That's so beta, man.
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InconspicuousWand 7y ago
I’ve actually done this at every job I ever worked at and never had it back fire. Most dudes can’t handle it and don’t know how to act if it goes bad. But some can
That being said it’s better not to do it. I tell that to everyone but I’m a hypocrite for it
SLICKlikeBUTTA 7y ago
Dude that's what I'm saying. I've already replied five times on this thread arguing with people. These guys have no game. If shit does go south, which it shouldnt because you should make sure it doesn't, as an adult, just be mature. I act like nothing ever happened and still keep that friendly vibe with her. Just be an adult. These guys have no game trying to act like they have it all figured out.
xxWildbeast13xx 7y ago
Does this apply to Highschool?
Chad1738 7y ago
No. Unless the girl is in all of your classes.
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tempolaca 7y ago
It's not worth it. Maybe it was the case 10 years ago, not today, no with social networks. The girl would just tweet "my boss abused me" (every girl think at some point that their ex abused her) and bye bye you career, for ever. Just with a tweet.
Thing is, it's inevitable people are people and will date, if you don't fuck your coworker, other coworker will do. Just be careful, you are walking in broken glass.
marian5567 7y ago
No HR in my work but i still regret sometimes having dated my coworker.
riggedved 7y ago
I dated a co-worker once. We had an HR department. She was the receptionist. I was 22, she was 25.
She used to message me in middle of work hours to join her in the bathroom for making out, she used to lock the bathroom door from the inside. I loved it!! If anybody wanted to enter, she would just shout that she was busy while throating my cock.
I was her chad at that time, she had an LTR, who she later married and now has kids with.
I found out about her LTR after I broke up with her. I had no clue before, tbh, I didn't even care. When I broke up, I was in a IDGAF attitude at work, just getting about my day, she, on the other hand, she couldn't handle herself. She would be this close to breaking down by just seeing me. She quit 2 weeks after I dumped her.
Any personal loss to me? None, whatsoever. Only getting my dick sucked before, during and after work hours.
Fun times.
Its funny, all of this didnt make much sense to me at the time. Only after I was introduced to TRP, I realised there is so much truth in here.
lapeparoja 7y ago
NO, one thousand times NO. Dont re-write the rules kid. They are there for a reason. There are 1 million ways you still can get fucked at your job, even without an HR dept, among them:
-- You develop oneitis, she rejects and now you have to see her every day.
-- The boss, owner, son of the owner wants to fuck her and sees you as an obstacle and can fire you at the slightest provocation.
--You 2 break out and she starts bad mouthing you with everybody.
-- She says you raped her and now you are fired as a minimum.
Shall I continue?
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SilkTouchm 7y ago
You shouldn't develop oneitis.
Then I get that sweet, sweet indemnization money. You shouldn't have a problem finding a job either if your skills are valuable.
Your other points are valid though.
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TheTrenTrannyTrain 7y ago
Yeah, wait till Stacy gets your white knight boss to fire you for something stupid.
Unleashed_FURY 7y ago
I’ve made this mistake twice in one year. Don’t be a dumbass like me guys, no matter how large her chest is and long her hair is, don’t cross that fucking line.
SLICKlikeBUTTA 7y ago
I don't understand why people are so adamant about this motto. I, myself have done it twice and both times there was definitely and opportunity for awkwardness but if you just act like a mature adult and turn it into professional there's no problems.
RedPilledGodEmperor 7y ago
It has everything to do with the woman possibly getting pissed that you aren't into her and crying sexual harassment. Look at Chris Hardwick and what happened to him after he dumped a chick who cheated on him and that wasn't a coworker.
SnowMonkeyCracker 7y ago
This has nothing to do with "awkwardness".
YoungManHHF 7y ago
Why not man? What happened to u?
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Riversfomo 7y ago
What if you only see them around but never directly interact because you work in opposite corners of the workplace?
excaliboor 7y ago
This makes me feel like you're asking "Why shouldn't I fuck my sister? What if I wear a condom?"
There are some things you just don't do.
beginner_ 7y ago
Because it has a higher risk like losing your job and be brand marked as unemployable just because you pissed her of and she went to HR. If you still need to do that you suffer from oneitis or scarcity. Would you risk the above if you could just to a bar and pick up a gal? No you would not.
RedPilledGodEmperor 7y ago
Exactly. Even if she doesn't go to HR and you are still employed, rumors spread like wildfire in the office. In many ways, it's the older version of high school. You tell something to one person and it's bound to be talked about by others.
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SLICKlikeBUTTA 7y ago
I agree with you. Stay mature and be an adult and everything will be fine. Don't piss the girl off or start shit. Dont bite the bait if she wants to start shit. Show respect so she's not threatened by you. Simple as that. Like we're cool, we fucked I feel like I can be a better friend now. Lol you don't always have to be an ass about everything.
cybrjt 7y ago
Exactly... and it’s not like you are gaming at work because you “have” to. Also, I don’t “try” to do my job. I do it, and do it well. If you’re “trying” to do your job, you should just focus on that.
Chad1738 7y ago
Sounds like a few of you really have scarcity mentality if you have to game while you are at work trying to do your job.
SLICKlikeBUTTA 7y ago
What? So it's absolutely impossible and irrational to do your job and flirt with a girl within the same 8 hour timespan? Sounds like you have no game. You take it too serious.
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unclecrumble 7y ago
Obviously my g. Gotta keep business and pleasure separated always.
SLICKlikeBUTTA 7y ago
Pfff working at bartells drugs isn't business. This guy clearly works a lower paying restaurant or retail or some other job like that. The majority of people don't work 6 figure highly important jobs where they need to focus on their work the entire time they're there. That's not business.
Yep he said he's a sous chef. Restaurants are the places to get laid. Everyone working in restaurants are trying to get laid.
Chad1738 7y ago
Based on what you wrote in #1, I would assume you don’t really believe that.
Aesthetic_God__ 7y ago
He's the example of "I do the opposite of what I just said, but I need the validation off a group of guys online"
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unclecrumble 7y ago
Just an example and I work in a restaurant as a sous chef. Yes I’ve plated plenty of servers and bartenders I don’t work in an extremely professional environment. This is not something I recommend and lately I haven’t been doing so. These are guidelines my friend you adjust the way you see fit. It’s about the mentality
uniqueuserword 7y ago
Ya that person made a blanket rule no doubt
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It's at least expected in restaurants. Go for the hostess that's only there part-time for the summer.
unclecrumble 7y ago
I was banging the hottest one working there for awhile. Her mom was a manager there too. Ballsy on my part. We kept it a secret though which honestly made the forbidden nature of it all exhilarating. Sometimes if she was in the walk in I’d sneak an ass grab or something but we weren’t displaying our shit to the world. Women like if you can keep your mouth shut
p3n1x 7y ago
Men like this too ;) . Women have the biggest mouths of all. When the female is pushing hard for discretion, she is usually comfort testing for control. If you stay quiet and she doesn't, she has control. Protect her interests last. Worrying about your job is one thing, worrying about what other people think is Outcome Dependence.
hedgeshock 7y ago
Probably not the best place to ask but where would I start when trying to do this?
Dukkas 7y ago
Where I live the bar is a good place to start. Bonus points if you go to a bar somewhere unfamiliar for a trial run
ghosts_of_me 7y ago
The sidebar, followed by anywhere on the planet with some female population.
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"I'll just wait till college, it'll be easier at the parties"
"I'll just wait till I'm 21, parties are hard to get into, I'll go to bars"
"These women are trashy,I want a nice woman, after I clean up my weed and alcohol addictions I'll go to church and meet girls there"
Riversfomo 7y ago
Not just anywhere man. It’s gotta be a place where single people are sexually active and hookup culture is a thing. The general challenge is to get a chick to do stuff with you that she has done with other guys. It would be pretty hard to get a chick to do stuff with you that she just doesn’t do at all because of sexual repression, cultural beliefs, values, etc.
-DeadLock 7y ago
Thank you. Its just not possible to "game" in some places especially clannish/tribalist places. I moved to a big city for this reason. I saw several TRP esque people and promiscuous women completely crash and burn within months of moving to where im from originally.
Oh and Im white. Its not just the 3rd world thats like this.
Id have dry spells for years only to wheel girls as soon as I was gone for a week travelling, studying abroad or a foreign girl came into town.
Cmdrj-nice 7y ago
The funny thing is that am mysterious and tease girls give zero fucks but to only the girls that am not interested in. But with girls am interested in I become autismo
unclecrumble 7y ago
This is where number 1 comes in. If you find her flaws you likely won’t be an autist
absolutelynp 7y ago
Just roll with it, I do the same, you may have an anxiety disorder or some crooked self image, I suffer the same...keep going, try further, it will get better I guess. Its fucked man...
ethical_pa 7y ago
Imagine that she hates you and you have no chance of ever fuckin her anyway. Let loose.
Or if it works better for you, imagine that you are already going home that night with your 10 and don't need her.
casemodz 7y ago
That's good cause you won't care about them or get attached. And they usually have better benefits than more attractive girls and are willing to share them more too.
Giant-__-Otter 7y ago
Got an epiphany about #1 on Friday. I gamed a smoke show in a coffee shop. If she wasn't 32 years old, she'd be an HB10. Looks and dresses like a high-class escort. Interesting banter. My physical escalation had to be calibrated down because of cultural reasons. Don't want the fish going off the hook. My inner game was "FFS, just give me something to hang on, there's got to be a flaw". I had to consciously think about fractionating and being aloof (thanks Tom Torero and RSD Madison) to not constantly give her my fuck-me eyes.
Finally we talk about sports. I tell her about lifting, then ask her what she does. Bingo, she's got that good of a body without lifting a finger! Now I have an anchor, I know it is the first step to her being far from a unicorn. Told her with a straight face it's a -1 with me. Later on she says she usually eats crap during lunchtime, boom, I spike her emotions by telling her jokingly she is going die if this goes on. Health is like #3 on the list of qualities I look for in women.
Find something to latch onto, then you will have an easier time treating her like a
human beinglittle girl, because all other guys try to buy her things (she feels like a whore), or orbit her (putting her on a pedestal).tempolaca 7y ago
Her flaw is that she's 32, obviously. Way pass her wall.
alexandria42o 7y ago
#5 is probably the most important
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-Fidelio- 7y ago
Not bad advice and I am confident anyone can pick up women. If guys in wheelchairs manage, anyone can. That's not to say it would be easy for anyone. It's a bit cruel to assume that it's going to be easy for say, a 3/10 guy.
Nihev 7y ago
Guys in wheel chair do not pick up women. Sure you may see it happen sometimes but what you don't see is the thousand guys home alone who die as virgins. Wheelchair is literally the biggest handicapn I can imagine. You are permanently sitting level tall and can never dominate women.
Ive worked as an caretaker to mentally normal people who were in wheel chair. Generally speaking they have absolutely zero chance of ever getting laid without paying for it
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MichaelMWaters 7y ago
You're 100% wrong as I know a guy who has multiple girls come over to his house every single week off of Tinder.. and I'm constantly shocked at the quality of women.. like there is ZERO drop off because of his disability.
He would get the same caliber if he wasn't in one.
Confidence is KEY and the most important thing when talking and picking up women and he is 100% confident.
Iwannachokekatie 7y ago
If he's handicapped and pulling off tinder it's definitely not his confidence.
MichaelMWaters 7y ago
I think you need to keep reading /THEREDPILL and get a little more education.
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-Fidelio- 7y ago
If you can, you should analyse his tinder game if he's willing to play ball. A lot of people could benefit from what he does.
MichaelMWaters 7y ago
It's nowhere different than anyone else.
He is CONFIDENT in himself, knows how to poke fun at life, doesn't take himself too seriously, not take things seriously, abundance mentality, easy to talk to.
I agree it's crazy that he's really that successful, but it just boils down to the face that men and women are equal.. if you think women won't like you, they won't, if you think every women will iike you, a lot of them will.
He meets women out and about too, it's not all Tinder.. he's always getting girls numbers going to the mall, doctor offices, Uber drivers etc etc.
He day games almost every time he's out as well, not in a serious way, just talks to everyone.
Nihev 7y ago
One guy is just an outlier
askmrcia 7y ago
I personally think he's full of it or an extreme outlier.
MichaelMWaters 7y ago
I can tell a women that I'm homeless and sleep under a bridge but since I'm so confident as a person I believe she will want to sleep with me.
Your reply to me shows that you as a person aren't as confidence as me or him. Nothing wrong with that, everyone needs to start somewhere.
The more women you sleep with, the more you sleep with because you've been there a million times and it just becomes easy and normal and the way it's supposed to happen, no big deal.
MichaelMWaters 7y ago
Agree with other commenter, it's your limited belief, not his, which is why he succeeds and you don't.
I say this in the nicest way possible.
Check my comments below.
-Fidelio- 7y ago
So many limiting beliefs. You can type "wheelchair pickup" into youtube right now and find videos with "extreme outliers".
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LifetimeLifeline 7y ago
Expound on #5 please. I'm curious how this escalates to "going for the gold"
strikethrough123 7y ago
He means fuck looking for signs she's interested. Escalate, and if she's interested, she'll welcome your advances. Escalate sooner. You don't want to waste your time (or maybe you do) with pointless conversation only to be friendzoned.
unclecrumble 7y ago
This is a subjective one. It will be different for every guy, you need to find out what works for you. Girls have heard tons of dumb escalation phrases from plenty of guys. Tell her tomorrow is a good day to call off work and when she asks why say because you’ll be so tired from tonight. Shit like that. There’s no need to be to creative but there’s also no time for the same tired bullshit they’ve heard a million times. If you’re lucky this step will be avoided by her being forward but that is rare.
Aesthetic_God__ 7y ago
You sound like a PUA scam. Drop the attitude and stop pretending.
unclecrumble 7y ago
Not pretending my friend. Only sharing my own opinions this game is like the NFL gotta change the rules frequently for your own mental health. This PUA shit is subjective it’s all subjective. I’ve seen guys I could break over my knee like a twig but they have hot women. Most things I’ve seen here aren’t accurate and simply don’t sync up to what ive seen and experienced. My main theme here is if you have to try so hard you’re looking up articles on how to game women you’re fucked. Develop yourself, gain some income, hobbies, travel, take a second language, experience life. Get the fuck off this sub and test yourself life is a completely unique experience for everyone and you must use your own intuition to do what you see is right in a given situation. Do you really want to spend your days on a sub trying to figure out where you went wrong in your last date? Fuck that, not for me I’ll use a TRP favorite and GO MY OWN WAY.
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-Fidelio- 7y ago
That's not what "go my own way" means. It means checking out from women altogether.
teeekuuu 7y ago
It's all subjective. "My own way" is exactly that, I make the rules and if there is a sub of incels that chant the same thing, well good for them, doesn't have to affect your path in any way imo.
-Fidelio- 7y ago
Only to postmodernists and (moral) relativists. If you're trying to communicate it helps to be as precise as you can. He might not be aware of what other people mean when they write "go my own way".
llDUNN 7y ago
It gets boring afterwhile though.
unclecrumble 7y ago
Yup. After getting my own place and spinning plates for awhile it is getting boring.
RileyW92 7y ago
So does life. Spice it up by finding more hobbies
llDUNN 7y ago
You say it like I don't have any ????
HiggsBooze 7y ago
ad 2. Red flag for whoever shared your personal data (phone number) without your approval.
unclecrumble 7y ago
It’s all good man I’m not paranoid
absolutelynp 7y ago
OP, can you give an example of finding flaws? I find that idea very interesting, it takes the edge off a little when she is very hot.
What do you mean go for the gold? escalate further? kiss? pull her in the bathroom stall?
Point 3 is kind of just BS isn't it? The "technique" is very vague. Can you expand on that?
Majestq 7y ago
Chipped nail polish
Food in teeth
Crooked teeth
An eye twitch
A goofy laugh (hot chick in my office has the worst "horse" laugh)
Bad breath
Scuffed shoes/ purse
There is always something that "humanizes" these "hot chicks." I know one with a slight baby tooth; she never fully smiles because of it.
unclecrumble 7y ago
When you’re with a hot girl you need to remember she’s comparing herself to hotter girls and there’s some things she’s insecure about. You won’t be able to see them at first but if you look closely she will be hiding things from you. It’s not always physical sometimes it’s emotional trauma things like that. Anything that can level the playing field is fair game you find it and exploit that.
Going for gold means you tell her straight up what you want to do to her or your intentions. Don’t beat around the bush and don’t take too long to get to this step. Just take a chance you either win or lose and either way you’ll probably end up moving on shortly after.
Point 3 is essential and don’t forget it. Essentially you should have a confidence about you. You should have things in your life that have made you develop to take pain and suffering and transcend it into something good. The mystery is about appearing as someone who gets a lot of girls. I’ve been told I come off as a player and girls think I’ve been with 100s of women. This is because I don’t act intimidated and I don’t supplicate to their needs ever. You must act aloof and like Ryan Gosling in the movie Drive essentially. Quiet, composed, and not a fucking chatter box. She asks a question maybe you answer maybe you don’t. Don’t jump at the opportunity to talk to her like you’ve been stranded on an island and haven’t had pussy for 3 years.
HillaryLostTheEC 7y ago
Please explain why you would want to exploit her flaw(s). To make fun of her? To make her feel less than you, therefore she has to prove herself? To make you feel more comfortable being in the presence of a a very attractive women? (knowing she is human after all) can you give me an example of what you have said to women?
EDIT: the other reason I'm asking is cause I'm an ass hole and I would just say anything to a girl because it's amusing. But let's say if you notice a girls tits are not proportional, I'm sure you don't just tell her that you notice that hahaha
unclecrumble 7y ago
Women in this society have the upper hand. It’s feminist based and fucking skewed as hell. My thing is I play with them and act kind of like a dick. These women are super insecure and the best thing you can do is treat them almost as bad as they treat themselves. I know it sounds fucked up but it’s true. So for example, I was talking to a bartender who was trying to play hard to get-so I told her listen I know you’re not a nun quit the bullshit. It worked. You have to level the playing field for yourself and to stand out you must act like she’s the 100th girl you’ve met like that. She’s nothing special, she knows it and you need to know it too. Listen to rap music and get the message as strange as that sounds. Bitches ain’t shit my friend you have to always be a step ahead because they’re sneaky cunts
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