You look like you get pussy a lot - Kate
3 weeks ago on a 1st date. Did a lot of things right to get there yet this story starts 5 years ago with
I wish you were the guy that just wanted to fuck me - Annie
Annie was a young med student back then, met her through a mutual friend and fell hard for her. I fidgeted a lot trying to get the courage to ask for her number. I had many options to get girls numbers
- ask their friend's for the number
stalklook them up on social media and send a request- hope she asks for my number
- give her my card and hope she calls
- hope to see her again and may be then I'll get the balls
Hope isn't a strategy. But I did get the balls to ask for her number. She gave it. I called her to took her to fancy first date dinner - it was pricey but its what you do with a Quality Woman^TM and that is the proper way to treat her. I told her all about myself and dreams and aspirations and what I did for work. We kissed on that date and she was really into me. She said "You are different, unlike most guys" - which fanned the flames of my efforts to show that I was different.
I can't go home with you tonight, I haven't shaved down there - Annie
Said that once and in my mind I was like - "I don't wanna bang you yet, just want to cuddle and talk - let's have sex when we're ready -which can be now or you know, after years..." I told her the same and she hit me with the same line "You're different from other guys" in my mind I was like I'm winning this Quality Woman^TM over!
I opened up to her about my feelings, where she stood in my life and my plans for her (us). I got her gifts and fell so hard for her and proceeded to orbit her on an elliptical path for another 3 years. Elliptical because I had these intense sweet (yuck) moments with her and then distant ones where she'd put me on the back burner for months and so went the cycle. Sometimes I'd say "Fuck It" and I'd initiate "The Talk^TM" and precipitate a DTR^TM moment. She'd (predictably) find a plausible reason - "I'm too busy for something serious" (she worked at some point in a nearby town), "let's take it slow" , "I'm broken and you're too good for me" to the tried and tested "Lets be friends first, build a good foundation of our future" and yes to the initial line
This would be easy if you just wanted to fuck me. I wish you just wanted to fuck me.
You gents can predict my responses to all the above.
Are you fucking her? - Tim
Years later I finally meant it and said I needed to know - are we something or not? Called her up for a meeting for us to "discuss/decide what we are" and "figure it out together" because "communication is the key".
Earlier I'd met Tim, an older man and we began talking about girls and I asked his opinion about this one Special Girl^TM literally an hour before meeting her. He asked if I was fucking her - I said "no" - he took a deep sigh and told me two things. First, "You are the man", I make the choice to be with her or not, there is no "lets figure this out together shit" - he asked if I knew what I wanted for sure and truth is I didn't - I was half waiting to hear what she said to base my responses on hers. Secondly he said "Cancel that meeting and give no explanation and no rescheduling just simply cancel it. Then ignore her calls and texts for a week"
How could I? It is rude? It's almost time to the meeting? I did it anyway. She called everyday, I didn't pick up. She texted, I texted days later with a zero effort text.
Then I felt the power - this girl whom I'd chased for years was now calling me off the hook. It was like a drug.
Some months later I discovered this sub and thought you fuckers are insane. Yet Tim had taught me how the world wasn't what I thought it was and slowly I unplugged.
- I discovered Intermittent Fasting and lost 20+ Kgs (that's 50 pounds for the
MexiAmericans) - I felt more confident, got complements, my family stopped saying how much weight I'd added
- I bought better clothes - more fitting ones, more to my style and I liked how I felt.
- I stopped googling girls that I liked by painfully approaching them in public initially. I said very cringy shit initially but very slowly it became better.
- I became a gym guy - I never was, never thought I was "one of those guys" but I like lifting, I like seeing muscles grow and veins pop.
- I started having sex. I read sex god method I felt like I gained a tonne (dominance). I learned how to last longer, to make them cum and more importantly to not be so invested in whether they cum or not.
- Because I was lifting I could lift girls from my couch and move them to my bed. They love that shit. Its just a dividend of worshiping at the Iron Temple^TM.
- The list is long, but most importantly I looked out for numero uno. I read NMMNG & WISNIFG and worked to think of myself first!
- I learned that regret is worse than rejection - it sounds theoretical until I tried it. Last time I talked myself out of approaching a girl I felt worse than I did for all the times I crashed and burned. Who knew?
- I tried something new with my hair - never had the guts to color outside the lines with my hair but I said fuck it and I did. I love it, half my family hates it - it is not the "me" they knew - the rest kinda like it. I like it.
You look like you get pussy a lot.
An obvious shit test from Kate. So I hit her with "I can neither confirm nor deny" with a smirk. She giggled in a way I had come to learn also generates Tingles^TM
I'd met her for coffee near my house, hugged her when she walked in and checked over her shoulder, saw her ass and I wanted to fuck her. I found things to tease her lightly about, told her what she should have at the restaurant, bossed her around and hinted that I could boss her all the way to the bedroom. She smiled and giggled. I picked up on this line and teased about how she likes to be tied up. We ended up talking about submission themes and she'd always bring the conversation back with "can we have a normal conversation?" - sometimes I would (Pull) at times not (push)
She ended up in my house!, by the time we got there I had teased her mind so much she couldn't wait to take off her panties. I carried her to my bed. Tied her up on her back with some old ties I had. Blind folded her, fingered her and she came, fucked her and she came. I turned her around. Took her from behind then I came.
Met her one other time since then and heard these.
I like submitting to you sexually
You are actually so strong (when I lift her and carry her)
I felt like you owned my body, like it was yours, i love that
Yeah I was out last night and some guy was offering dick but blah blah blah
In a way this specific girl reminded me I've come full circle. 5 years ago met a med student and fell head over heels and went the way BP ways go. Now post RP met a med student, same age as before, same set of circumstances (initial attraction on her side), different man, different outcome. Kinda like I got to do the test again - this triggered a lot of introspection and I thought I'd share it with you gents.
Still feel regret for not discovering this shit earlier, still feel like I have so much to learn yet.

kyzen142 8y ago
3 years 3 fucking years she kept you on leash. It was really hard to read that part it hurt but good for you my man you shall never be your old self again.
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Those first two quotes are gold and sum up the attitude change you go through perfectly. Entelechy is a beautiful thing.
Geckobird 8y ago
Damn...I seem to have lost sight of things and ended up in an Annie situation. Fuck it. I’m soft nexting and going hardcore monk mode. I keep halfassing things, and that’s just as bad if not worse than not even starting.
Qerus 8y ago
Great Field report and reflection on your part. It's funny to look back and see how much you've improved. Crazy to think that was 5 years eh.
Mr-Ed209 8y ago
Good write up.
Said that once and in my mind I was like - "I don't wanna bang you yet, just want to cuddle and talk - let's have sex when we're ready -which can be now or you know, after years..."
Ugh I've been there man, I know what thats like. That shit never works.
This is one thing that I think is quite key to unplugging and realising why relationships aren't what a lot of young men think they're cracked up to be. Often smart guys, who've done the right thing throughout life fall prey to this, you know work hard at school, find a nice girl to pair up with, buy a house together etc. It all seems so straightforward but it comes at the price of being a massive turn off to women.
When you start getting the results you like from women - which comes from dominating and dreading etc. It kills a part of your life plan in a way. The realisation that to hold a womans interest you have to remain a mysterious sexual object to her. And being a sexual object comes at a detriment to making safe investments and living responsible etc.
dokoya 8y ago
Yet we hear it a lot from women, my mom, older female cousins. Only to realize now its different. I think it is part of why we believed it a lot, we heard it from people we knew.
Expound?
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Mr-Ed209 8y ago
'Expound?'
It's akin to a bigger issue of how you grow up in many senses. Working hard, achieving good grades at school. They all play into following a system and a belief that fundamentally people will do the right thing in your favor.
I think it's this attitude that is a subconscious turn off to women. It's the same shit that 'nice guy tm' is dragged over the coals for. When in reality nice guys are simply following a sytem of courtship outlined to them as 'safe' in societies eyes.
If you want to see this happening right now, look up Alex from the UK tv show 'Love Island'. The guys a Dr. Very good looking (as are all the dudes on the show). His problem is he's too safe. He's a people pleaser, getting sucked into providing emotional support for the girls on the show and looking for a 'soul mate' in completely the wrong places.
trees_away 8y ago
That realization blows. Hardest part about swallowing the pill. No rest for the man. No slacking. No safe place. Your guard can never be truly down, though you must pretend it is. Letting her close enough where you’d be wounded if she left is the very thing that will begin to sour her feelings towards you.
dokoya 8y ago
This right here. Is hard pill to swallow. We imagine she can love us the way we love her.
Reminds me of that whole hierarchy we have here
I imagine there is a precursor to that equation above, something like
To which may be we can only be ever truly loved by what is above us? I'm not quite sure
[deleted] 8y ago
Maybe that’s why men of the ancient past conceived this image of a greater patriarch, a being capable of loving men the way we all, deep down, desire to be loved. We found a way to fill that void through spiritual practice and beliefs, so that we could be the men we needed to be in the profane world.
Or maybe Ive had too much coffee.
farendsofcontrast 8y ago
Annie are you ok? Are you ok? Are you ok Annie? You’ve been hit by.. You’ve been struck by....
A redpilled individual.
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Iwannachokekatie 8y ago
Kate is into the domination stuff indeed.
becefoot 8y ago
Girls notice when you're having sex on a regular basis? How?
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Because they are evolved to know who the top dogs are.
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dokoya 8y ago
I imagine it goes something like this. The more successful you get with girls the more you look like a "natural" - like the guy who just knows "gets it"!
This they can see this. So you they can make the inference that you must get laid a lot.
becefoot 8y ago
Would it work if you fucked escorts?
I mean, after that you wouldn't put the pussy in the pedestal
dokoya 8y ago
I would imagine not, went to a titty bar a while back with a friend, the ladies were there and DTF for the right price and they were hot.
All I had to do was just pay and fuck, I got why men do it. For me I felt like it would be an escape, an easy way in the sense that there are none of the risks of approaching other women who could reject me, insult me, ignore me or respond well, that I could be weak in my game even after starting well and ending up crashing and burning.
I think all those risks and overcoming them teaches me lessons that in turn make/give? me more confidence. Like I walk up to a girl and say hi confidently because I've done it a thousand times before and learned so much.
So in short NO, I think fucking escorts would make you better at fucking escorts not so much picking up and gaming women. I imagine the escorts sex game is 100 so you could learn a few things from them or even up your sex game
becefoot 8y ago
But it would give you the abundance mentality since you are a call away from fucking...
dokoya 8y ago
Abudance Mentality with escorts is an oxymoron - they are always there and DTF.
In the RP sense I don't think you can get this mentality by paying escorts. This mentality comes from cycles of trying, failing, learning, succeeding
becefoot 8y ago
I mean, it's not the solution. It's just the start. Just to de-glorify pussy.
But yeah, RP it's hard work and a long way.
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I think that guy is trolling you.
dokoya 8y ago
I had a hunch but figured well - why not play along?
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[deleted] 8y ago
'Initial attraction on her side' well that's what i need.
MCFiletMignon 8y ago
Hey don't try to change me!
dokoya 8y ago
I wont, seems one can't unswallow the pill even if they wanted to
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dokoya 8y ago
Keep on working on it and becoming the man you want
[deleted] 8y ago
Hope, that you too will slay?
untonyto 8y ago
Great post I even learnt something
dcmcmd 8y ago
A quality FR. Genuine insight unlike the majority of quasi-fantasies posted.
sebastian_ramirez05 8y ago
What books did you read besides No more mr nice guy I honestly don’t know
dokoya 8y ago
I read When I Say No I Feel Guilty, Sex God Method, Manipulated Man - they are all linked on the side bar