\~ This post is targeting beginners who, irritably enough, decided to skim or skip the sidebar. \~
Appearance. It's arguably one of the most important keys to the kingdom. It's a key indicator of the level difficulty one will face while trying to game. While one can have 'bad' appearance, it's like trying to pick the lock instead of using the key; it takes more time and has a lower success rate.
Here are a few aspects of appearance that are key:
- Purpose of Lifting
- Purpose of Clothes
- Purpose of Facial/Hair
- Purpose of Hygiene
Lift
Lifting is paramount in The Red Pill and is thrown around a stupendous amount of time(for good reason). It affects so much more than just physical appearance. A post by /u/theselfmadealpha called “Lift”outlines some reasons as to why lifting is important. He states that it helps with confidence, strength, respect, women, energy/stamina and mood, which is very true, but I'm going to focus on the Confidence, Mood, and Physical Appearance.
Confidence: This should be a given. Confidence is something that radiates outward and is a quality that Dominants/Alpha Mates exhibit, therefore you should too. Lifting removes physical features that one would be self-conscious about and replaces it with features to be proud of. Women will know who's confident versus who isn't. It is vital to appearance as it is an head-turner. Confidence bleeds into how one walks, talks, and thinks. Women will notice your actions if they are confident, and in turn, will be attracted. Lifting builds confidence.
Mood: Lifting serves as an anti-depressant, and it works wonders(see the post linked above). Very similar to confidence, one's mood are head turners.
Physical Appearance: Women love the abs and bulging biceps regardless if they say they don't. Women cannot fight genetic make up and cannot help but be attracted to strength. The same way the cannot help but be attracted to money and fame. Money and fame portray social power and survivability. Women are engineered to look for the strongest mate for the survivability of their offspring, it's a subconscious mindset that they may or may not be aware of(99% will not be). Muscles will trigger that subconscious 'tick'.
Clothes
Clothes are a reflection of many parts of one's personality, so catering your clothing to a specific type of mindset is key. For example, dress like a police officer and people will think you are stiff, dutiful, and probably a little bit impulsive. Or dress in a suit, and people will associate you with the characteristics of a businessman or executive. How you dress is a reflection of oneself. One quick idea for what to wear is to just one-up everyone in your social circle. For instance, if everyone is wearing sweats, wear jeans. Or if everyone is wearing a t-shirt, wear a casual dress shirt. You get the idea. If you one-up everyone in your social circle then your perceived sexual market value will rise as well. You will be the one the women look at first, as clothes are the first layer of appearance and the one that requires no further actions. You just show up.
Facial/Hair
Facial hair and hair, similar to clothes, are the first thing a woman will notice, and also require no further action. Again, facial/hair reflects key parts of your personality that could help pass both Shit Tests and Comfort Tests. For example, very well kept beard will portray neatness, organization, and more Beta traits that will pass comfort tests(remember, Beta vs Alpha isn’t black and white, an Alpha can portray Beta quality to their advantage). Different facial/hair styles will achieve different results. Matching clothes and hair styles is very effective in portraying a key characteristic you want to pass. But also, mix-matching is very effective as well. For instance, having a very messy and ‘wild’ facial/hair style and a slick black suit paired with a black dress shirt will give off a very badass image. Additionally, having facial hair is a better than not having it. Clean shaven is more ‘cute’ and ‘handsome’ while facial hair is more ‘hot’ and ‘sexy’. Facial hair also reflects charisma and confidence(when chosen correctly).
Hygiene
Hygiene is a given. You smell bad and you lose them. You smell bad and they won’t reciprocate your approach. You smell GOOD and they’ll be more receptive. It also, again, is a reflection of certain personality traits.
This post is a very brief introduction to the idea of appearance and is a quick overview, I encourage you to look deeper into it. Appearance is very very important, but it quickly turns useless if your personality and game isn’t up to par. So therefore yes and no. Game(personality) is more important but don’t let it take away from appearance.
Im quite new to this sub, so mods list it with whatever flair is appropriate. Thanks for reading, and as this post is general advice, I would greatly appreciate any feedback and additions to the post.

[deleted] 8y ago
Not sure how anyone can even take seriously the idea that appearance doesn’t matter. The very fact that we notice ugly dudes that have achieved a high SMV despite their appearance proves this.
jay_jay_man 8y ago
Agree with this 1000%. A groomed beard and some muscles changes everything. Emphasis on the groomed part. A beard needs to be combed and brushed, trimmed evenly, and oiled (or moisturized) to really look good.
Cthula-Hoops 8y ago
I was just talking about this regarding the incel issue wherein personality is a big issue. I have a friend who has always struggled with his weight but aside from that he's not a bad looking guy. He has a good paying job working with kids who have behavioral problems and his attitude on life and confidence are right where they should be. He always has a girlfriend. They're not always the most attractive, some have been but either way he's not sad, lonely or celibate.
He can attract women because he's fun, has a career and doesn't set himself up for failure by chasing women who have better options.
Most importantly he's not a sorry sack of shit who can't understand why smart women who take care of themselves don't want to bed down with somebody who evidently doesnt give a shit.
Martysteiner 8y ago
A nice t-shirt with some good biceps, a smile on your face and a good posture gets you to the point where you can have anything you want.
Physical attractiveness is important and overrated at the same time.
jackandjill22 8y ago
If you have biceps get a Under armour shirt.
amedeo_modigliani 8y ago
Like this guy?
https://www.menshealth.ro/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Alex-Haidau-1.jpg
Stop talking garbage. Face is everything.
prodigy2throw 8y ago
The guy intentionally has an insecure facial expression. That can be fixed.
Also, advice from a pro here; stop looking so hard for exceptions to the rules.
KazooIsRad 8y ago
Grow a beard and grow your hair out it'll hide most of your ugly face
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[deleted] 8y ago
How do you pretend to buy some shit? Go through the checkout line and hand over Monopoly money?
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Cesare_MA 8y ago
Nah you should buy a lot of stuff so you have time to chat her up. Get like $200 worth of shit and you’ll be making out by the time she asks “Cash or credit?”
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TheCreator_101 8y ago
Buying £200 of shit you weren’t planning on getting that day just to flirt with one girl seems somewhat retarded.
DayGameChirality 8y ago
I'm confident he was being sarcastic
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Thorfel 8y ago
I have been lifting for nearly 1.5 years straight, made some good gains, but still women won‘t give a flying fuck about me. I wear decent clothes, have good personal hygiene but still. I guess a handsome face beats all of the above.
antariusz 8y ago
1.5 years is about the minimum.
But you can’t just “only” lift. You do also need a rock solid frame as well as game. People love to oversimplify here, but it is a fair bit more complicated.
You’re on the right path though.
If I’m 35, and was a football player in school, but fat, could run well the 4 years in the Air Force, but skinny fat, lifted for a few years and then stopped, got fat fat. And then started again, so I get to include all that time? No only what you are CURRENTLY matters to women. If you’ve been lifting for 28 years but you look like shit, it doesn’t matter. Total muscle mass is important and it takes time to build, but if you’re starting from nothing, it might take you longer than someone with a past athletic background.
SeductionSnake 8y ago
Well no... that’s kind of incelish. I tend to think that game is be all end all.
Thorfel 8y ago
Yeah, you are probably right. I‘m kinda depressed due to my lack of success with women. I‘m here to learn.
metallicdrama 8y ago
Once you get laid more it’ll work itself out. Conundrum.
[deleted] 8y ago
It does. It depends on how ugly/short you are. Then u need to game like a motherfucker. Sometimes it's not worth it. Spending insane amounts of time to approach for just ocassional 4/10 pussy seems pointless to me. That doesn't mean it's pathetic to lift, groom yourself etc. It's still improves quality of life by far. U should drown in hobbies though, u won't have time to think about pussy. It will come or it won't. Can't really force an attraction. U buy for pussy or jerk off. Sorry no other way.
Thorfel 8y ago
Well I can’t get a match on tinder to save my life, so apparently I‘m hideous as fuck. Will still keep on lifting until I drop dead though.
DayGameChirality 8y ago
Do you have very good pictures though?
Also, PM me your fucking face. I mean just your face, not the face you make when you fuck. I don't believe you're that hideous.
Thorfel 8y ago
I look hideous enough to not get any matches, not even with landwhales.
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reluctantly_red 8y ago
If a guy has a nice body, takes a shower every day, and wears his hair in a flattering way (varies greatly by individual) then clothes don't mean shit. Indeed when a woman looks at you she shouldn't even notice what you are wearing. She should be thinking "that guys has nice shoulders" or "that guy has a nice butt". If the first thing she notices is your clothes you're already out of the running.
I fit guy in a t-shirt and jeans from Walmart >>> a fat guy in the most expensive designer suit.
007peter 8y ago
Agree & Disagree. I agree with your excellent Analogy of a Fit Guy in T-Shirt will be better than a FAT guy in expensive designer suit. But where I disagree is that I believe clothes is an extention of physique, since we can't walk-about NAKED without getting arrested.
A fit guy in an Oversize T-Shirt & pair of Baggy Jeans from 1990 will HIDE (not show off) his physique. Likewise a FAT guy dress in a superior double-breasted tailor suit* (that hides his belly f*at) pair with a black pants that tailor to elongate this legs, then wear a 2" black chelsea boots will give him an illusion of being Slimmer & Taller due to continuous flow of black color without breaks.
What I would say is this:
Face (born handsome or ugly) is #1
Physique (#2) strong masculine Alpha Male physique that is both Dangerious & Protective is highly attractive
then CLOTHES (#3) right cloth accentuate #2 physiques, but a BAD FIT can also harm #2 physiques.
(#4) SMELL - an handsome guy with a BAD BREATH = instant turn-off
420KUSHBUSH 8y ago
Disclaimer: This does not include socks with sandals or crocs
187oddfuture 8y ago
That's just a loaded comparison. A more fair comparison would be to take a guy that's like Tom Hardy (not saying Tom himself, a guy LIKE Tom, we'll call him Diet Tom. Diet Tom is someone who dresses very well *suits, sweaters, dress shirts, etc.* and is also very fit and muscular. Pair Diet Tom against the fit guy in Walmart clothes and see who gets the woman's attention first. She'll give Diet Tom the first try every time. Doesn't mean she'll bang Diet Tom every time, he could be a beta in disguise and blow it. But he'll always get the first chance, clothes DO matter. They convey status, as well as personal preferences and style.
SeductionSnake 8y ago
I agree. But it's a package deal, you can't have one aspect but not another. So lift AND clothes.
pnzndltn 8y ago
I disagree girls shouldn't notice what you wear at all. Seeing as maybe 80-85 percent of guys dress like shit, it stands out in a good way when you show at least a little style. This can be done with jeans and a T-shirt as well, doesn't have to be fancy. E.g. simple colors, form fitting, etc. Well calibrated style, even if subtle, shows social intelligence and is a great way to portray that you're a step above the rest.
turbospeedsc 8y ago
Personality>looks.
i've mentioned it before, after my divorce i was overweight, balding, beer gut, and regular clothes, but i was behaving like nothing mattered, i had six plates in 5 different cities going on at the same time, on of the hottest, a 29-30 yo argentinian with a Phd, the husband was very fit, lifted heavily, had lots of cool hobbies, lots of money, traveled a lot, dressed very nice, took care of himself..... too much care, i remember once she took me to a very expensive meat restaurant ( she was very well off financially), i ordered a big bife de chorizo (new york steak), and it was great, when i was eating she commented how her husband would never order something like that, he counted calories all day long, made sure he never went over his target, used all kind of creams and stuff, to the point she was disgusted, because he wasn't manly, just a pretty boy.
MobySnoby 8y ago
You're saying personality trumps looks but she was attracted to your looks in the first place. The dad look is very attractive to some women.
sky_fallen 8y ago
TL:DR - Hide all your care products?
turbospeedsc 8y ago
dont be more feminine than your wife, AWALT, women want the caveman.
Thorfel 8y ago
Yeah you are probably right. My lack of success with women is depressing me, so I‘m here to learn.