Please sticky this. This is what newcomers should see first.

Suggestion for girlfriend game: This site

I think the people who frequent that site could offer valuable insight to our community on this specific subset of TRP.

Maybe create a cross post of something to get some of them over here.

I've had my head up my ass for over a year, but I finally get it:

Girls are fun to play with. PLAY with them. Make them fall in love with you, because you're just a cool guy who loves to play with girls, and you know once their labial petals yield to your sword, their mind is going to be blown by all the intense orgasms, and then you'll be having to beat her off with a stick.

I did that once before, of course. That's why I have a wife who won't divorce me willingly no matter how many times my phone makes the special beep and I get a big smile on my face.

I was trying to be all dark triad sociopathic asshole guy, and getting nowhere. I'm a nice guy. I'm fun. I like to play. But I don't worship silly little girls; I play with them, then when the time is right, I FUCK them like a lion, and they make all kinds of musical noises and emit all kinds of fluids, and then they say, "Thaaaaank you" with a dreamy look in their eye.

You know you're doing something right when the girl thanks you after.

So we have an entire subreddit designed to give strategies on dating that are not "the norm"? Here's an idea, be single until you find someone that is worthwhile. I'm just curious as to how hard this is for people to comprehend?

How about Divorce Game, so you can seduce her into not raping you at the courthouse?

I just discovered this sub-reddit and I sent it to all my friends, redditors and non-redditors. Thank you.

One year ago, when this sub had only 500 subs, /u/pk_atheist said: "Mark my words, by the end of 2013, we will have at least 10,000 subscribers."

Isn't this just Leykis 101?

The MGTOW movement in North America has experienced a 300% growth over 2013, particularly in the youtube manosphere. In Japan, however, close to 60% of men aged 20-30 are MGTOWs.... (wow). But, I have a question. Is r/theredpill synonymous with r/MGTOW? Do you consider yourselves different, or the same under a different name?

Well, I'm fucking convinced now. Looking forward to learning more and more.

Good post, good direction. I'd change "girlfriend game" to "relationship game" to include married folks.

Economic Disengagement? I guess MGTOW is something I knew the least about, because I understood one of their core tenents is writing off relationships and sex completely, and that's not something I am interested in whastsover.

But it is an interesting notion. Sort of John Galt-ish. But it perks my interest because I understand economics and yeah, if people ever did start to "go their own way" and work just the bare bones they have to, things would collapse quickly without the taxes. And I understand their logic because women and feminists especially would sing a different tune very quickly.

Unfortunately not nearly enough would ever participate in such a movement to make an impact. But it's a noble idea.

Perhaps we can get a sticky for new users not to tell us about how they don't agree with most of the views here as a standard preamble for new posts, or how they're starting to think one view is ok, etc. Maybe there can be a weekly megathread for all new users to come here and repeat those three points - 1) partially swallowing pill, 2) don't agree with all views, 3) will admit one is right.

I hope someone can answer this for me. How do a mans looks factor into this theory? I have not seen that answered anywhere.

IMO, this is the only subreddit worth reading.

I don't necessarily agree with everything I find in TRP, but it's always controversial and thought provoking.

I didn’t know this subreddit exsisted until it was mentioned on the frontpage today by this [post]( http://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/1ubzso/ujamesdk_explains_why_you_should_avoid/)

Many moons ago, I was the typical “beta” guy. I was good enough to be bestfriends but not good enough to date. I thought I knew what women wanted which was a guy who gave her love, adoration and did anything she wanted. When I did get lucky and get an official girlfriend, somehow that relationship ended before I brought the truck load of flowers to her door… I couldn’t seem to understand why I couldn’t keep a girl. I witnessed these “alpha” treat women like dirt but yet women can’t seem to get enough of them.

Heres an example of my typical beta days. I met (Lets call her Laura) this beautiful lady online and somehow managed to strike up a conversation with her. She was definitely out of my league. Imagine her at about 5’8” 130lb, curves and a nice huge rack. It was love at first sight! The first week was pure bliss. We would hang out every day, text each other every waking moment and holy shit was the sex great! In the morning I would text her, “Good morning lovely :-) I miss you! When do I get to see you lovely?” By the second week came around, she got a little lets say.. distant. When I texted her, I wouldn’t get a text back for a few minutes. She used to call me “Mr. Handsome” all the time, and that stopped. When we hung out, she was more occupied with other things like her phone or the TV. By the time the 3rd week rolled around, she didn’t even text me until hours later. And by the end of the week, I got the break up text message. “Your such a nice guy but I need more space for myself.” Nothing new I haven’t heard before.

I was devastated. She was the hottest girl I have ever dated and somehow I blew it. Did I not text her enough? Did I not spend enough money on her? Should I have kissed her on the cheek and hold her hand more often? What the fuck was wrong with me. All of my female and male friends blamed it on her. She was at the loss here, not me! She was the moron! My friends told me I was the nicest guy they have ever met, how could she not like me? She must be crazy! I always used google when I needed an answer. I never googled the topic of women because I thought I knew everything. As I did my research I happened to stumble upon articles and dating advice from a guy called Doc Love (google him). Some of the stuff he was preaching (Being alpha) was appealing to me at the time. You mean to tell me I should ignore women?? Wait, you mean I shouldn’t ask women out for another date during the date?? I thought this guy was nuts! But after reading more of his articles things started to click and make sense. I ended up buying his book, partly due to desperation for advice. I started reading the book on a Monday, and read it twice by Friday. The techniques and advice is very identical to TRP.

I tried this on the next few dates I had. Holy shit did things change. Instead of getting rejected, women were actually texting me for dates. The more I ignored them, the more they crawled to me. I was getting laid more. I attracted more beautiful women. And my last relationship went on for 3 years until I ended. That’s right, I ended a relationship for the first time in my life. I’ve been single for quite some time because I don’t want a serious relationship right now. To all the guys just discovering this subreddit, the techniques on TPR are nothing new. They have been around for centuries. The truth on how to attract women have all been diluted thanks to mainstream media. Being alpha works whether you like it or not.

tl;dr this shit works

Is this like pua or rsd? Or is this something different because so real social dynamics has been a life changer for me.

Good post. Iterates why I believe some of the smartest people in reddit write here on TRP.

I think the alpha/beta dichotomy has the potential to hinder progress.

Great post, glad you cleared up some of the misconceptions.

Add some stuff:

What is the red pill:

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/16t7cp/year_one_i_strongly_recommend_all_trp_readers_to/

Straw red pill:

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1j2uqp/your_meaning_of_alpha_is_irrelevant/

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/06/22/false-dichotomy-dorks/

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/17w7tr/i_am_roosh_ama/c89eer9

Also remove this bullshit:

Women worth giving your commitment to are rare. So rare in fact we call them Unicorns, and you can consider this TRP on hard mode.

When you can't be yourself in a monogamous relationship, why purse a relationship then? +it is fucking easy since there are only 5 archetypes of girls. Once you had those 5 you have had them all.

How do we get this on the side panel?

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This is the best post I have ever seen on this sub.

TRP has had an impact in my life in 2013 and will shape my 2014. From my point of view there has always been discussion of 3 types of game- I am looking to improve my LTR right now, and if that does not work out it's plates\soft harem time.

One interesting point is I have turned a couple of men onto TRP. One is running with it- the other two go "yeah, some of that stuff is spot on, it's interesting" and then pretty much fade out. Let's all keep in mind that not everyone sees a need to improve themselves. TRP is not always the happiest route (esp. in the short term) but the TRP man lives with what is and not deludes himself with what should be.

There are times in my life when I stumble upon some information so solid, so logical, and so earth shattering that my world view is changed forever. Its an exhilarating feeling! These are those moments in life when an open mind is your strongest asset. I am almost overwhelmed by the excitement of being able to embark on a brand new mental frontier.

Thank you so much for this subreddit.

I've run into "game" stuff before, but this is bigger than that. This is the root of human psychology. This is as meta as it gets.

Stay classy TRP.

Edit: As a new member with no right to critique, I do have some very humble suggestions.. I would focus on the big picture, the meta stuff, the deep philosophy and psychology that unlock a mans ability to embody alpha, and beneficial behavior patterns. I get discouraged when I run into the very specific game strategies that break things down into "how to get girls at the club" with "the perfect opening line", etc.

As someone who has been lurking for a few months. This just makes the entire subreddit make so much more sense to me. It was often confusing before. Now I feel like I "Get it".

I got steered here from a comment on one of my posts complaining about being consistently friend zoned. Best experience I have had with reddit so far. Reading some of these posts and following the links has really made me rethink the way I approach relationships.

Although I don't agree with many aspects of Red Pill philosophy, I have enjoyed browsing this new subreddit. Interesting posts, well organized and presented, and certainly a refreshing point of view. Congrats and keep it up.

My favourite part: Do work.

I've come to realize how important work is to a man.

As men we work to fix our problems. Men that take initiative and DO WORK to achieve what they've set out to do are inherently attractive and strong.

It has been a very motivating realization for me and I can't wait to take on 2014.

Thank you TRP!

Yes! Been waiting for a post like this. And thanks especially for addressing the 'Alpha / Beta' nonsense. I admit, I've slipped into using the terms as descriptors of people rather than behavioral traits - hard not to when it's the general parlance - but I'll be very happy if we can get back to the more scientific uses of the terms.

This sub could have been overwhelmed by the brigading BP'ers and huge influx of new members, but it hasn't been; and I know that's thanks to you SoftHarem, RedPillSchool, and the rest of the mod team. I'd like to thank you, because this place is the most important part of the internet, for me. Keep it up, gentlemen. I'm beyond excited about what 2014 has in store for this community.

Amazing. I found this subreddit by clicking "random" on the top bar and it's now my favourite internet place.

This post should be sticky forever.

Happy new year, brothers in arms.

Saved for later.

This subreddit is changing my life and those of the people around me. I'm very grateful that you guys are working hard to maintain its integrity.

Ok disclaimer - I got love for this sub, I think it's one of the best on reddit. This is not a "WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THIS SUB, IT'S FULL OF SHIT!!!" reply.

We've all been on the internet, so we know that when a community gets large, it generally becomes a giant pile or horseshit, like bodybuilding.com forums, r/music, etc etc.

To be different, RP will have to take the time to call-out these morons who come in, real like 1 page of RP theory, then think they know it all despite having no practical experience actually applying the theory. They just, as you said OP, holler "lolol what a betafag, relationships aren't RP" or "bro, bro RP says looks do matter and thus short guys can never get girls!" It becomes a massive circlejerk, because we have these terms, like AFBB (alpha fucks, beta bucks) and then people water down the term by applying it to every single situation.

Slogans are an amazing tool, but they are simplifications. Morons chant "change" or "eat the banks" or "legalize it bro!". Intelligent people talk about the reasons behind their argument and understand the duality of the argument. The dumbed down mainstream needs things put into a maximum of 10 main catchy concepts, because otherwise their heads would break. We don't want TRP becomming a place where all you see is "plate spin bro, SMV, here's an RP nugget, be alpha, Alphas dont do this, alphas do this, women are hamsters".

If you want to understand chemistry, you go beyond the general chem formulas and understand why atoms and electrons interact the way they do, how people apply this esoteric knowledge to make cool shit, etc. I think TRP needs to refocus upon the ideas behind the slogans. Slogans make it easy for beginners to come in here and get caught up, but I would say, fuck that. If they want TRP in their lives, they should be doing better than being spoon fed some easy, reduced caricature.

This will help with people who think that RP is an actual science like physics with these iron rules, like if you text a chick back quickly, you will never fuck her. Or that all guys who are rich are "alpha", or that RP means being "dark triad machiavellian sociopathic bro". People have these ridiculous ideas that are bastardizations of RP theory, but they believe it fully, like so fully that they are basically living in a fantasy land (BP in and of itself). Perhaps presenting TRP as a broad field combining science, philosophy, economic ideas, PUA, and self-improvement rather than a few iron rules would help.

All I want to say is that I am so thankful for discovering the red pill. It has opened my eyes and prepared me for the future.

It is my understanding that the entire reason for TRP's existence is to help educate and drive men toward becoming more independent socially, professionally, and romantically. One of the core reasons I continue to come back to TRP is the solid foundation of thought pounded into it's user-base of "what's in it for me?" or "what am I getting in return?".

If folks on this forum continue to lash out towards each other, either through mundane labeling or outright destructive criticism, they are eliminating and squandering that core belief. What advantage are you gaining from besmirching someone on an internet forum? Again, this is why Reddit is wonderful, "I like what they say, upvote" or "I disagree with that statement but haven't the time to voice said disagreement in a logical view downvote".

I know I'm still relatively new to TRP, I've lurked here for some time but just recently have decided I have enough RP knowledge to begin sharing or adding to a conversation/thread. I also understand that my views/beliefs may differ from others on this subreddit. Some of what I say or do may, in fact, come across as a Beta tendency to quite a few people, yet I don't let it deter me from my main goal of eliminating those aspects of myself that which I deem "Beta", and replace said character flaws with traits which I deem "Alpha". Utilizing this viewpoint, I find it incredibly difficult to label other people one way or another, because who knows how they feel about themselves.

~Potato

Question: I don't see this mentioned. "The red pill" is a reference to the movie: The Matrix. What we're told about how the world works is actually a lie. The world works according to completely different rules.

Are you abandoning that narrative?

Steady on, gentlemen.

We should be unified in informing and supporting any reasonable and individual goal men here may have for themselves. This is a community for men to share and to learn what it is they want and need to know with regard to sexual strategy, and it's a top notch resource. Discussing failures, successes, and observations has been crucial and rewarding for me. I pride this community for helping one another and being brutally honest both in how they feel, and how they think. I'll gladly continue to contribute what I know.

There really is no other place like this.

We're the boggieman of Reddit

When there's a hate thread elsewhere bashing TRP, subscribership grows in a pattern equivalent to the mood slime in Ghostbusters 2.

Question here:

About the LTR game, is it meant to end in what, life long and kids? If that is the case, do you advocate marrying?

This seems to me a dangerous game, because once you do marry you've given away your greatest power: walking away (unscathed that is)

Note: I am a proponent of the LTR and kids, in the sense that if you don't leave some then, in the end, you lost the game of life.

You know, every once in a while I reflect on how well I am maintaining my frame and if any progress has been made/lost recently. I've noticed my frame slipping. This has happened before, and will happen again, and each time it does, I go back to the beginning. I re-read it all. I focus on each and every loose end in order to put the pieces back into their correct places. This post will mark the new beginning of that trek through TRP strategy and information.

Thank you, /u/SoftHarem, for your continued dedication to educating and providing support to the Manosphere.

~Potato

Remember, sexual strategy is amoral.

Niggle: any particular sexual strategy can be moral or immoral. Knowledge of what works and what doesn't is immoral amoral. (Yep, I typoed).

I relate this back to hacking: Knowing how to pwn a MSSQL DBMS is amoral. Using said knowledge to steal credit card info is immoral. Using said knowledge to help companies defend against attacks is moral.

Most of us here will tell you flat out that honesty is the best policy. Let the women know you are not available for exclusivity now

I agree. Not only does it increase attraction (because you are a MAN telling her what is rather than a BOY telling her what she wants to hear and then doing what you want) it also generally leads to the women going above and beyond to "win you over" which is always nice.

Women worth giving your commitment to are rare. So rare in fact we call them Unicorns, and you can consider this TRP on hard mode.

They are rare, and they are not proven until they are proven. As a direct example, I have an amazing girl right now and she's even my only girl. She's well on her way to proving that she's worthy of commitment, but she hasn't proven it yet so I haven't given it.

RP relationships are hard mode, because while pure alpha will land you a girl, you have to put some beta in there to keep the girl around long term. This balancing act is crucial and difficult (and, even more, individual to each girl... some will need the balance more towards one and some more towards the other). Relationship game is a whole new world and one that is way too inviting to revert to beta behaviors for reformed guys. Personally, I feel the rewards are worth it so I'm giving it a shot.

The RP community is small, and we seem to only want to divide ourselves further over which sexual strategy is the "best."

There is no "best" strategy. There is only the most optimal given you, your goals, and potentially the woman you are with (if you decide on commitment). If MGTOW isn't for you, then it isn't for you, but it doesn't mean it's not a valid RP topic. If LTRs aren't for you... you get the drift.

At the core of all sexual strategies is the same truth: the realization of the differences between men and women and how to use your knowledge of that to maximize your results for whichever path you choose.

We're the boggieman of Reddit, and I like that infamy

We are the splinter in the mind of every blue pill guy who wonders why what he is doing isn't working as advertised. We are what women want, but are afraid to admit that they want. We are the ones who will make this reality work for us, no matter how fucked up it is.

We're the boggieman of Reddit, and I like that infamy

There is something extremely satisfying about being happy and successful while other people hate you for it

Anyway I can increase my involvement I'd be down for.

More "Girlfriend game" posts would be great, but for me specifically, I'm most interested in "Christian Marriage Game."

Of course, I realize this is Reddit. Imgur

If I may add:

New members; You probably heard about us from somewhere else on reddit. If you did, you almost certainly saw us cast in a shitty light, calling us rapists and neck beard fags. Fuck damn we were unofficially voted the 2nd worst sub on this web site.

Men don't like us because our theories greatly differ from what they have been taught their whole lives. Women don't like us because they refuse to believe their behavior in their 20s will haunt them in their 30s (and a variety of other reasons). It hits them close to home, so close it motivates them to actually take time out of their days to lash out against us, hence the blue pill sub.

Keep in mind that this is a fairly bullshit free zone. If you ask something or present a theory, you will receive realistic answers and constructive criticism; and sometimes the truth hurts. The vast majority of people don't like hearing the truth, and instead focus on what they want to hear. That's why most of what is upvoted on reddit nowadays tends to fall in line with the modern liberal agenda.

FORM YOUR OWN FUCKING OPINION

If you are interested in the theory, read some sidebar material. If you disagree with what is written, that is absolutely fine. You are always welcome on the sub as long as you keep your comments rational and conversational.

If you like what you read, lurk for a few week. If you have questions, head over to r/asktrp; people are always glad to help out. When you head out and apply what you've learned, share your story during Monday field reports. We want to see you succeed in accomplishing your goals, whatever they may be.

Happy hangover day boys

The RP community is small, and we seem to only want to divide ourselves further over which sexual strategy is the "best." Personally, I think this is fucking dumb. The career players call the guys who want a girlfriend "still beta," while the MGTOW call the players "slaves to pussy." Its all bullshit and it needs to stop. Your strategy is your own to decide, and that doesn't make it objectively better than any of the others. Here in TRP our community is built of ALL THREE sexual strategies. If you don't want to support all three then head on over to the Roosh, MMSL, or MGTOW forums so you can join in on the masturbatory nonsense.

Well put.

Here's how I put it. Anyone who helps make a better world for men is okay by me. Whether it's an entirely selfish PUA who is accidentally helping other men by taking the pussy off the pedestal, or a somewhat whiny MRA who's still doing good work by moving the Overton Window. Whether it's /u/girlwriteswhat working to promote understanding and acceptance of the male point of view, or Roissey of CH pointing out that the male viewpoint will never be embraced by society, and men need to embrace social nihilism and learn to game the system... it's all fighting the good fight, and it's all useful stuff.

Also, wanted to add something to your list:

Plate stacking

Think of this as an intermediate position between Plate Spinning and Girlfriend Game.

Women like relationships, but often don't realize that "relationship = male monogamy" is entirely a cultural artefact of the modern west. Only men are genetically hardwired to care about keeping partners sexually exclusive.

Male infidelity is categorically, unequivocally less bad than than female infidelity, because women's actions have declared it to be so. Women desire men more when they have access to and are desired by other women. This means a cheating man remains attractive, or even becomes more so, while a cheating women loses attractiveness.

This means that with sufficient frame control and vagina tingles, it's possible to be in one or several "soft relationships", where you have a lot more emotional intimacy and commitment than you do with spun plates, but with the understanding that who you fuck is your own choice, but if she wants to stay with you, she'd better not sleep around. This may sound very difficult, but once women find themselves in that situation, jealousy quickly becomes a thing of the past, so long as she gets enough of your time and attention for her emotional needs.

I think that in many cultures, especially for upper-class men, even marriage was plate stacking, because men were expected to sometimes have something on the side, and this was perfectly okay so as he kept it discrete enough not to publicly shame his wife. In other cultures, marriage was/is Plate Stacking, because men have multiple wives.

One of the benefits of Plate Stacking, from the viewpoint of women, is that it protects them from having to form a relationship with an undesirable man "because all the good ones are taken". The guiding principle of Plate Stacking is that women would rather have some of an alpha than all of a beta.

I like doing it because it allows me to have emotional connections to women (which I like) without missing out on variety (which I also like).

The career players call the guys who want a girlfriend "still beta," while the MGTOW call the players "slaves to pussy." Its all bullshit and it needs to stop.

Everyone in /r/theredpill, whether they subscribe to PUA or MGTOW thinking, is a pragmatist. It is our pragmatism which differentiates us from the idealists of /r/mensrights. They are concerned with "the way they think the world ought be"; we are concerned with "the way the world is".

The true enemy is of course feminism, and it is reeling. Whether from Hanna Rosin or Phil Robertson or one fat girl holding a "this is what feminism looks like" sign, young women everywhere are becoming vaguely aware that feminism=unsexy.

This year, the ante must be upped. The Democratic Party must lose Congress. FOR THE MERE REASON THAT IT WILL HURT THE ENEMY MORE THEN IT WILL HURT US.

There is a proposal on the table in California to split the state into multiple new states to address the legislative logjam there. This proposal must be encouraged. It will undermine the feminist position by creating additional Senators representing regions that are more conservative than Los Angeles and San Francisco.

I just started on this subreddit a couple weeks ago, and it has opened my eyes to why I am not getting the results I want. Implementing this stuff is getting a little bit easier, but I like the idea that we are just bringing the A game, not being something we are not.

Thank you for this. I was beginning to become disenfranchised by the alpha-beta bickering, but you're right on, it's just simple bickering than can be ostracized.

This is an awesome post, thank you for your continued effort.

I've only been a subscriber for a few months but in these few months I've learned so much it's hard to comprehend it all. This sub has helped me dessimate decades of inferior thinking and behavior. And it's only going to get better as I construct my frame. An oasis in a desert this is. THANK YOU!

If sexual strategy is amoral how can cheating be wrong?

Don't do that, it creates feminists and other terrible types of women.

So much wisdom, truth, virtue, humor in that one sentence.

Red pill, first you hate it, then you consider it, then you try it, then you are with it for good.

I've been wanting to talk about this for a while and this seems like as good a place as any. It might need its own thread. I remember reading that direct linking was against the rules here. Not sure if that still is or ever was, but I would be a strong supporter of making the sub self post only. I'm here for the discussion and commentary. I don't want to have to give some shitty feminist website ad revenue just to make a link purple. Plus, just posting links to blog posts on hashed out topics does nothing. I'd much rather see people link inside a self post and be required to explain how they think its relevant, new, etc. Does anyone else agree on this?

Shouldn't self-improvement be on that list?

I mean, self improvement for the man's own sake, as opposed to self-improvement for the sake of DHV.

In any case, TRP is what led me to the manosphere. I'm glad to have found like-minded men.

Im glad that you made the point of taking what you want/need in your life not just succumbing to turning the whole RP in Religious Dogma that all men should act exactly the same. It comes down to the individual and how they see their own place within the confines of the society that they live in.

Sounds good. I'm new here, but after doing some light reading, I've found that a lot of my outside studies share many commonalities in TRP. Anyone subscribe to Elliott Hulse on YouTube? The man is Alpha as fuck, and drops knowledge nearly every day with video responses to young men's questions pertaining strength, health, chicks, etc. I started watching him by accident when looking for some workout advice, and he's shed light on so many more topics that physical strength. Definitely worth checking out for some general lifestyle advice, not always pertaining to game.

Anyways, it's 2014, and I'm glad my friend turned me on to TRP yesterday. I see myself growing leaps and bounds with this new hub of information. Thanks to the mods and everyone that's dropping knowledge with anecdotes.

Proud to be here. Let's make 2014 a good year.

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Great breakdown of the strategies. This should be stickied/sidebared

Congrats on doing and awesome job mod team.

While I have had my minor complaints over all the mod of this sub has been fantastic and I am glad to see you addressing the MGTOW crowd.

Here's to an awesome 2014 !

I hope everyone's mom bought them the clothes they asked for for Christmas.

Cheers to 2014; the best year ever.

i want to know when mgtowforums will let people register again? i just get error of registrations closed.

This will be one of the best posts of 2014.

I didn't feel it worth making it's own thread so I'll just say here. I just found out about this sub yesterday, makes me mad how true it is.

I let me last girlfriend tell me what she wanted and was respectful to her spoken desires and such. Then she went crazy and implied I wasn't being interesting enough and it drove her crazy that I let her have what she wants (which was to take things slow because she wasn't sure).

That's what I get for not wanting to play dumb games and for choosing to obey her spoken requests. Never again, women have no idea what they want. Anyway, I'll lurk some more because I don't fully understand this, but pretty useful info so far.

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Maintaining it throughout the course of a long term relationship is another beast altogether. This is content we haven't discussed much in the past so we are looking to the community to drive it. If it is something you're interested in start making theory posts. Mate selection, maintaining frame, Captain/First Mate dynamics, etc. We aim to be the premiere hub for all things RP related, and ignoring relationships because they aren't "True RP" is ignorant.

As one of the guys here in a RP marriage, thanks for this part and I plan on contributing more directly in the coming year. Particularly mate selection and Captaining my ship. Maintaining the proper dynamics through the years is indeed a challenge and one that I look forward to discussing with those in similar situations and those merely interested in how it works (along with how it doesn't).

2014 is gonna be awesome.