I know everything has been getting really heavy around here lately. We live in a crazy society. We need to be aware of the problems men face. We need to be prepared to deal with feminism and all attacks against men. For any guys out there who are trying to get over the hump and find some success in their own sex lives, here is a field report that might help your attempts with dating apps.
TL;DR: Matched on Bumble. Set date immediately. Showed up and got flaked on with an excuse. Pressure flipped, she showed up and fucked within 2 hours of meeting. Ragdolled and face fucked her. She pretended to be mad at the treatment. She bitched at me in an attempt to break my frame. She failed, submitted again, and got fucked, again.
Introduction: Saturday afternoon I matched with a cute HB6.5 on Bumble. We'll call her Kate. The girls have to message first, and Kate messaged me within a few minutes of matching.
Kate: Hey : )
Self-honest: Hey Kate, you're cute. We should go out sometime.
Kate: Hey Self-honest we should some time I'm down lol.
Self-honest: I'll be at (local bar) later. Meet me there at 7:30 for a drink and we'll go on an adventure downtown.
Kate: Alright cool I'll see you at 7:30.
That is exactly how I plan to use Bumble or Tinder every time. Anything more than this is turning into an investment of time that would be better spent approaching women in real life. I will playfully banter for 2-3 messages if she leads the interaction in that direction, but then it's time to shit or get off the pot.
Also, just as a reference point, I'm barely 5'7" and I have no idea if this girl is taller than me or has any hang ups or height requirements. Fuck it guys. If she gets there and isn't feeling me it's her loss. My dick is big enough and I'm a grown ass man who knows what he's worth.
Fast forward to the evening. I live about 30 minutes from downtown, but Kate's profile says she lives close to the city. My logistics are based on getting back to her place or finding another solution.
I arrive a few minutes early to secure optimal seating as it is a Saturday night and the bars get busy quick. I order a beer and send her a message.
Self-honest: It's packed. Got some seats at the bar.
Kate: Dang you didn't say anything back to me. I thought you stood me up.
.......Now here we come across a challenge. Is she flaking and making up an excuse? It's true, I didn't say anything back after she agreed to meeting me at that bar at 7:30, but I shouldn't have to. She knew I would be there anyway. What are her intentions?
I had a full beer and a playoff football game to watch on TV so I decided to give it one more shot. If it worked, great. If she flaked, I would take my sexy ass to some clubs and game the night away. Win-win.
Self-honest: No way. I'm a man of my word. You gonna stand me up or you want to have some fun?
Kate: Lol yeah I live 10 minutes from downtown so I'm gonna throw on some clothes and then be on my way.
Good answer Kate. I messaged a few other matches, watched some football, and by the time I was finishing my first beer she messaged me saying that she was parking. I ordered another beer so she would be stuck ordering a drink by herself if she wanted one.
She walks in and I stand up and give her a hug to initiate kino from the beginning. She's looking cute and has a really nice ass.
I kicked back in my chair like a king and started teasing her and asking her questions. She's an international business major. She loves to travel. She lives at home with her parents (logistics will be a problem). So I dig in on her passion for travel, which I happen to share with her. When she laughs at my jokes I make sure to keep building my kino by reaching out and touching her arm just above the elbow while maintaining eye contact.
She orders a beer and goes to hand the bartender her card. The bartender says he will just put us on the same tab and split it up later if we want. This kind of shit will never change, be prepared to make her pay. It's dumb to spend money on someone you just met. It's even dumber to give off a provider vibe if you're trying to get your dick wet.
At one point she says, "You seem so nice, I can't ever imagine you getting angry or being mean." Now I'm not sure if this is because of my height (she's at least 5'7" if not 5'8"), or if it was just a classic shit/frame test. I just looked her in the eyes with a glare and said, "Oh, I can be mean." She said, "Ok we'll see." while cracking a smile.
We finished our beers and I suggested we head somewhere new. I ask the bartender to tab us out and he says, "all together?" I looked Kate in the eyes and casually said, "split em up."
I knew of a cool bar a block away with self pour taps on the wall and she had mentioned her love for craft beers. I led the way without mention of where we were headed. When we arrived we both checked in with our credit cards, got a drink, and found an open corner of the place to hang out.
There was a chalkboard on the wall. I pulled up a list of Pictionary words on my phone so we could have something fun to play. For anyone who doesn't know what that is, one person gets a word like "elephant", then tries to draw an elephant while the other people watch and try to guess what they're drawing. This was a fun way to tease her and up the kino while passing the chalk/phone back and forth. I would make fun of how bad she was at drawing then playfully congratulate her while putting my hand on her lower back or wrapping my arm around her waist.
After we finished one drink we had a charged moment where we locked eyes and our faces were pretty close together. I should have escalated, but the moment passed me by quickly. Don't hesitate guys.
I went to the bathroom and knew it was time to make a move. I came back and continued the game. The next time I handed her the chalk I locked eyes with her and said, "come here." I put my hand on her waist and kissed her. She kissed me back ferociously. We made out for a few minutes and I started grabbing all over that nice ass I had been checking out earlier. She was digging it so I greenlighted grabbing a titty before backing off to grab another beer.
We played a few more rounds with teasing and lite kino. Then I went in for the makeout again. It got really heavy. I was escalating even more by grabbing her ass roughly like I wanted to fuck, putting my hand down her shirt to squeeze her tits and play with her nipples, spreading her cheeks and touching her pussy from behind, and grinding her pussy onto my dick. I whispered in her ear, "I just want to take you somewhere and fuck you right now." She asks if I live nearby. I don't. I'm thinking bathroom or car. She suggests a hotel that's 5 minutes away, but says she can't afford to pay. I'm down, fuck it. Sounds way better than a bathroom. We close out and I tell her I'm riding with her.
We get to the room and I tell her to put some music on her phone. I grab her and start making out heavily. I push her jacket off, then I put her hand on my dick. She starts rubbing it and taking my pants off. She strips down fast and she's dripping wet when I touch her pussy. I fuck her good, hard, and long. She cums a lot. I don't. I've gotten really good at not cumming and my dick was worn out after like 30-40 minutes. No shame, I tell her I need a break. I rest up for a few minutes then re-engage.
She's lying on her back and I climb up on her chest and stick my dick in her mouth. She starts sucking and gagging herself. I start pumping and fucking her throat. I was going to stop and put it in her pussy but I was really into it. I fucked her face hard and came down her throat while she gagged on my cock.
She acted so mad and ran to the bathroom to wash her mouth out. "Uggllhh Why did you cum in my mouth!?" I laughed and said "sorry" but I clearly did not give a fuck. She came back out and laid down next to me. While talking she said I looked different from my pictures online. I looked smaller. I stared at her and said, "smaller how?" smirking and glaring. She said, "your face looks smaller." Ok Kate sure it does. I know she meant I was shorter than she expected. I laughed at her and said, "Oh really, that makes sense." I fucked the shit out of her a few more times until morning. She kept telling me how good my dick felt.
In the morning she told me her pussy was swollen and I hurt her. I smirked and put her hand on my hard dick. She sucked it then I fucked her one more time. I could tell she was in pain, but she came so hard and shook and wrapped her legs around me anyway. If she told me to stop I would have. I grabbed some complimentary breakfast and a ride back to my car. My balls were sufficiently drained.
Lessons Learned:
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Pressure flip on flakes by not giving a shit if you ever see them again, or for the first time in this case. Maybe they'll show up. What do you have to lose?
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Move around to multiple locations when you're meeting someone for the first time. It will make her more comfortable. I could never have escalated at bar #1, but 30 minutes at bar #2 and I was grabbing everything I wanted to put my hands on.
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Play games so you can kino more frequently.
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Escalate means keep going further. Getting overly sexual in a public place sealed the deal. We needed to go somewhere else before I got us kicked out.
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Putting her hand on your dick is a powerful tool. It communicates exactly what you want and you can learn everything you need to know from her reaction. With the recent Aziz Ansari story, he used this move and she backed away multiple times. This means you need to shut it down and send her home. If she escalates from there, you're good to go.
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Treat her like a fuck doll. She likes it. I have never roughly fucked someone's face/throat like that. I felt like I was crossing a line, but I enjoyed it and remembered to do what I enjoyed. She didn't stop me and continued to submit after throwing a little fit/shit test my way.
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Shorter guys, get over it. Don't use it as an excuse. Don't use it as a crutch. If it doesn't bother you it won't bother her.
- Always have other plans that will make you equally as happy. Your mindset will help you avoid unattractive behavior.
Edit: formatting, preface, lessons learned.

ronnie888 8y ago
How much did you spend total that night including beers + hotel
Self-honest 8y ago
Roughly $85. More than I wanted to spend on the evening initially, but after she suggested the hotel, I knew I would get my money's worth.
ozaku7 8y ago
I wouldn't be too proud about a same day f-close. I know women that are so easy, that some even told me that they are willing to give me some birthday-hanky-panky.
Self-honest 8y ago
I'm not. I know chicks like that too. But I KNOW them. This was some rando I did rough things too within 2 hours of meeting.
Self-honest 8y ago
Also can't do it any quicker
ThickDickWarrior89 8y ago
Incredible how you said “split em up” but I’d be annoyed that the bartender did that shit in the first place. I would have said “no just go ahead and split em up now it’s all good”
GrandYam_HomeRun 8y ago
I used to love reading these field reports, now all I can think of is how I hope OP protected himself with recording everything and sending friendly after-sex texts. If one of her friends decides to slut shame her because she didn't adequately explain why she was out all night, is a rape charge on the tip of her tongue? Good move going to a hotel so she doesn't know your address. Hope you gave her a fake name too.
Self-honest 8y ago
I didn't give her a fake name, but I had all the same concerns you did. The next day I was pissed I didn't record it. Pissed I came in her mouth and let her go to the bathroom alone. Pissed I didn't use a fake name. But I know I was nice enough that she wouldn't bring her wrath down on me. I brought her breakfast in the morning and kissed her goodbye. Probably killed my chances at a plate, but fuck it. Buttfuckit
RP_Tesla 8y ago
Perfect play-by-play. Reads very nicely.
Bro,
The cognitive dissonance this creates within their hamster is unreal. Coupled with your steady escalation of kino...You had this in the bag.
Great work man. Be sure to pin her down by the wrists and give her a good choke too, to keep her spinning as a plate.
Self-honest 8y ago
Thanks man, I enjoyed your FR as well. You're right, that cognitive dissonance is no joke. I will make sure to pin them down by the wrists in the future. I definitely put my hand around her throat slightly off to the side and applied some light pressure. Any tips you can offer on how or when you "give her a good choke" for the first time? I'm pretty sure timing and execution is key. I would hate for anyone to get the wrong idea and fuck it up.
KittenLoves_ 8y ago
Not every girl is into choking. You need to check how she reacts to things like touching her neck and light pressure there (like you did) before moving on to actually choking her. A positive response when you do the aforementioned = choke her. Also, if you're going to do this, and especially if it's your first time fucking her, make sure you're both sober. If you're drunk, it's easier to misjudge things and accidentally choke her out.
Self-honest 8y ago
Agreed. Good points all around. Thanks for sharing man.
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KittenLoves_ 8y ago
Blood choke. Press the sides of the throat (where the arteries are, and not too agressively, instead build up pressure slowly) not the middle. If you want to breath choke, it's generally better to cover the mouth and nose instead. It's too easy to crush the trachea if you go for breath choking via the throat. That will just make her cough.
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Atticus_Crowley 8y ago
Aside from the hardcore BDSM girls, most girls don't actually want to be choked choked. A firm grip on the throat that shows you are in charge is all that's needed or desired. Restriction of air flow should be minimal.
Granted like all things, it varies from person to person, but that should be the default. Gotta take the temperature of the room, how she reacts to a good ass slap is usually a good indicator of how rough they like it. So if she responds enthusiastically to that, you can go a bit rougher, and choke a little harder. In my personal experience, girls who REALLY like being choked aren't shy about telling you to choke them harder.
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This... Calibrate.
I find the collarbone push is a good indicator.
One hand, open. Thumb halfway down one collarbone, index and middle fingers on the other. Push.
Restricts her movement, very dominant move without the "choke" stigma.
She melts? slide your hand up a bit and restrict the carotids a bit. Push/pull in relation to your seduction. Release to get the rush.
Protip? Cover her eyes with your other hand.
NarcKammerjaeger 8y ago
Very well written. Let me guess she's also into modeling right?
Self-honest 8y ago
Haha good guess, but no. She is into older guys though, because guys her age don't have their shit together.. imagine that (she's 24, I'm 32). And she also told me she is into conducting her own personal social experiments just to see how people react. Surprise..surprise...
NarcKammerjaeger 8y ago
I've heard life only begins at 32 :P. In What kind of scientific field does she conduct her experiment?
Self-honest 8y ago
My life is certainly beginning to get a lot better at 32 man. I love it. Thanks in part to TRP of course.
I think she said her field was Behavioral Shit-Testology with a primary focus on Mate Selection.
ImHerWonderland 8y ago
9/10 I tap out after a good 10-15 minutes of sex. Maybe 20 if I'm biting my cheek and thinking about kittens. Especially after I cut the porn and got on nofap. Whats your secret?
Heizenbrg 8y ago
I can't seem to last more than 3 minutes it's awful. I sometimes cum in her mouth first during role play and go straight at
Self-honest 8y ago
Here's the thing, that's perfectly fine man! I've been there. I didn't care if it happened. I just tried to last longer. Slowly I figured it out. A lot of the time it's just being comfortable with pulling your dick out of her mouth before you get to that point and then waiting a few seconds before you start fucking her.
When I came down the girl in the OP's throat it was probably about 3 minutes. Yes I had fucked her for 45 minutes without blowing my load and rested for like 20, but when I was fucking her face I was planning on pulling it out and fucking her pussy before I came. Then the urge just hit me and I couldn't control it. I recognized this and started fucking then shit out of her throat knowing I was about to cum and enjoying every second of it.
Just get comfortable with where you're at and try new ways to last longer. Be happy when it works, but don't worry about it when it doesn't.
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Self-honest 8y ago
When I started trying to last longer I was peaking at like 15 minutes every time. Kegels allowed me to get right to the edge and hold back the uncontrollable ejaculation. When I get to that point I just control the interaction, flip her to a different position, buy myself a few seconds to ease back down, and start smashing again. It gets easier every subsequent time until I lose sensation and can no longer sustain my erection. That is usually no longer than about 45 minutes. Around 20 minutes later I'm good to go again.
Beleive me, I can cum in about 2 minutes max if I want to. I just enjoy fucking for longer than that. Sometimes I can't control myself and have to just cut loose and bust. I don't try to stop it when that happens. I just enjoy it. Honestly though, kegels and being very conscious of where I'm at is all it takes for me. Sometimes when it gets to that point I'll clamp down and just stick my dick in deep and leave it there. They love that shit. I give it 10-15 seconds then go back to hammering.
My last GF had her tubes tied so I went raw 100% of the time after we became exclusive. I had to figure it out because it feels so damn good and I couldn't control myself. Once I could fuck her raw for 45 without busting, my condom game went to the next level.
Side note, I hate condoms. Sometimes I lose my erection when I put one on. I recently switched to Trojan Magnum thin and Trojan Lambskin because they have a bigger width and it was a game changer. The Lambskin is incredible and the increased width doesn't choke my dick out like smaller condoms did. So try different things and find what works best for you.
ioncehadsexinapool 8y ago
Dude HOW do you Last that long. I nut way too quickly it’s bad. (1-2 mins)
Self-honest 8y ago
What do you think it is that makes you nut? Is it just the physical sensation?
Now that I'm thinking about it more, it's a physical and mental challenge for me. To be in control and cum when you want to. The fact then nothing she can do can break your control. It's enjoying the sensation of fucking for what it is and not wanting to move on to the other sensation of ejaculating yet.
I don't know bro. It's just what I wanted to do so I practiced it hundreds of times until I got it all figured out.
RedEyeDude 8y ago
-23M virgin here- i came reading this field report
Self-honest 8y ago
Haha dude, go get some pussy. What's holding you back?
RedEyeDude 8y ago
i come from the land of betas: india, and my entire existence has been an ode to the chode lifestyle, until just recently. hope to change that soon
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derpderp5000 8y ago
while the goal is to be able to last long naturally, I'm just going to throw some pharma options out there as they are useful.
Tramadol worked well for me .. i only needed 25 mg about an hour before sex and the effect would last about 6-7 hours. lasting as long as i wanted to. 50mg and its pretty hard to cum. YMMV depending on your weight and so on.
other options include SSRIs taken on demand. modafinil apparently also helps but haven't tried it for this use.
i've read that cardio helps some guys as well. like 20-30 min moderate intensity/day.
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If you're on your 20s/30s and need a boost just pop some 25mg Viagra and you're good to go for about 4 hours. The slightest feel of excitement will get you hard and you won't lose an erection after nutting. Lately I've been having 40m sessions without an effort. Anything above 25mg is usually dangerous unless you're 50+.
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The key here is that she's a 6.5-- which means in reality, she was a 4.5 to a 5.
So, the lesson here is to prey on unattractive girls for easy sex, because they have low self esteem. Giving away quick easy sex is the only way they can get attention from men, even though they surely feel used and feel like shit afterward.
Not saying that any of this is wrong, on either party's side.
Self-honest 8y ago
Ok lady. I like how you act like you know 100% what went on here. Is this just a projection of your own low self-esteem unattractiveness?
First off, she was more like a 7-7.5, but I bumped it down to adjust for exactly what you're trying to account for. I have done the required reading/studying on scale. By Patrice's standards, she would definitely get into Club Fine-ass Aight Bitch. That's at least a 20/30 or 6.666.
Regardless, words like "prey" aren't congruent with her soaking wet pussy or the fact that she suggested going to my place or a hotel. On top of that, unattractive girls just don't make my dick hard. As unfortunate as that is, there's no fucking going on. You might not understand having never been the owner of such a magical wand. I actually have to be aroused to fuck somebody. Can't just lube up a floppy dong and get to business.
Speaking of business, she was an international business major on a path to achieve her masters and travel the world. In no way was she low self-esteem.
Nice try though. I don't agree with your sentiment that guys should prey on unattractive girls with low self-esteem and leave them feeling like a worthless piece of shit afterwords. I think men should go after women they are attracted to and arouse them while showing them a great time, fuck them hard, then get back to focusing on their goals. Rinse and repeat.
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So in this infamous picture, she was the 7.5? Ok.
http://www.returnofkings.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/DC_wedding.jpg
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Self-honest 8y ago
Yep, dead on. African American though so she had fuller sexier lips and obviously darker skin.
That picture is actually the first time I truly understood the scale for what it actually is.
I don't give a fuck if you believe me since you aren't responding to any of the actual points I made in my previous comment.
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Self-honest 8y ago
Fucking bartenders man, they're all the same.
If she acted like she was offended that I didn't pay, in any scenario, I would laugh and smirk/roll my eyes. The same way you would treat a child that was trying to get their way. I don't think this shit test, if it is a shit test, deserves any words. If she continued acting like a brat in any way, I would probably shoot her a look of disapproval and then just walk away.
Self assessment: I am 5'7" 160lbs, white, good haircut, nice beard, 8/10 face, I've been nursing an injury so my muscles have taken a hit and I've packed on 10-15 lbs in the wrong way over the past few months. So lets just say I'm currently a little chubby for my liking (my fault entirely). I shower and smell nice. I wear solid colors, nice shoes, etc. Dick is 6 inches long, 5.5 inch girth (circumference). Good posture. I'm sure I'm missing something.
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SMRII 8y ago
Then don't read. Pretty simple. You must have great frame control, getting triggered on a reddit post
swagile 8y ago
Online dating apps are the way of the future simply due to logistics.
Won't beat walking up to a flesh and blood woman (especially if its your first time), but it definitely makes it more streamlined due to being able to go through multiple women. So posts like this will become much more common in the coming age.
Self-honest 8y ago
This is true. There's no reason to ignore dating apps.
If I set a date right away, it confirms her interest (almost like some kind of indication of interest in real life). Then with no real investment yet, the date is similar to walking up and approaching a flesh and blood woman (because she's there), and knowing nothing about her other than her signaling interest and a usually vague profile.
If something falls through, the plan is to spend that time approaching other women. So it ends up being one extremely warm approach, possibly followed by other warm and cold approaches.
Self-honest 8y ago
Just trying to share a success story with those who are trying to find one for themselves. I think overcoming the flake and fucking a chick I've never met all within 2 hours is worthy of noting for everyone out there who uses dating apps, as they all encounter flakes from time to time. If you don't want to read it, all you have to do is not click on the FR my man.
IDGAFMentality 8y ago
I enjoyed your field report. I think you could have gone a bit further into your "Lessons Learned" section, but overall I enjoyed an example of a successful meet and fuck as well as the chance to analyze your technique through my own eyes. If nothing else, this post serves as a motivation to others that Redpill ideology can be used to effectively game and fuck women.
Self-honest 8y ago
Glad you liked it man. I updated with more lessons learned. I'll probably add some more tomorrow once I have a chance to step back and think about it.