TRP has been good to me, particularly in getting me back on my game after my first (and only) marriage and subsequent divorce, but that's another topic (you can guess the details anyway).
After lurking for a little over a year, I'm trying my hand at posting. I'm starting by sharing my expertise, hoping it will help y'all take bigger risks and thus experience more success without getting your asses handed to you.
I'll start by saying that I'm a real-deal financial planner. Not the guy that pushes mutual funds or insurance for commissions. I own my firm and charge an hourly fee for unbiased, professional advice.
The most critical and overlooked aspects of people's financial lives are budgeting and risk management. Budgeting is pretty straight-forward, so I'll spare you a lecture here, but just like any business, you should know your balance sheet (net worth = assets - liabilities) and cash flow statement. Assets that take money, (housing, cars, toys, etc.) should be minimized and assets that make money (investments, tools for your craft, etc.) should make up the majority of your balance sheet.
Simply put, money management (budgeting) is to your finances what lifting is to your body. It takes discipline, you should be seeking gains, and there's no short cuts, you just have to do it. Moving on...
Those who do the first step well still tend to miss risk management. Here's how that typically plays out: you're financially solvent, doing well and then, BAM! Life serves up it's most famous dish: The shit sandwich. Maybe that killer job wasn't as steady as you thought (by the way, employers are the masters of dread game), you aren't as bulletproof as you thought (illness/injury), or fill in the blank with any other horror story you've heard. Trust me, it all happens, all the time.
The two most effective ways to address these risks are:
1) Emergency Savings - At least 3-6 months worth of living expenses (minus income-related taxes, savings, and work-related expenses) in CASH. Yes, you're not going to make any money here, but this part of the portfolio is for liquidity, i.e. stable value and readily accessable and 2) (The right) Insurance.
Emergency Savings is "Fuck You Money"
An IDGAF attitude is a critical piece of RP theory, but I would submit that the independence it requires absolutely includes your work situation.
I recently landed a generous partnership deal with the largest local bank in my area. I walked into negotiations at an advantage because I was the expert in the room and I didn't need the deal. I carted my nuts in with a wheel barrow and asked for everything I'd need and more to be interested, expecting them to push back. Instead, they happily agreed to all my terms and assured me they'd do more down the road.
Think about how your carreer would be different (assuming you're already constantly sharpening your skills), if you didn't need the money to eat for the next 6 months? I'd wager (and frankly know) that you'd be more confident in your interviews and successful in your business dealings. What's more, you'd take much less shit from people, and unsuprisingly, that tends to make you more happy in your life, overall.
From a risk management standpoint, that level of savings will also typically cover your insurance deductible(s), if something catastrophic happens or get you through the waitting period for most disability policies. You should know what these numbers are and adjust your savings accordingly.
Now some other pointers on insurance:
-Understand and keep track of what is and isn't covered and for how much or hire a professional (not the shmuck selling it to you) that will do this for you.
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Go through (or at least shop) an independent agent, who writes for many different companies.
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Buy the damn umbrella policy (it's cheap and you can consider it net-worth insurance).
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Have health insurance (if you're healthy, consider a High Deductible plan, if available, and max a Health Savings Account).
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The younger you are, the more important LONG-TERM Disability insurance is because your ability to earn income is most likely your biggest asset.
- When possible and cost-effective, favor private policies over employer-sponsered coverage. This requires homework, but you want to be able to walk away from your job, if needed, with minimal repercussions. It may even be more cost-effective the younger and healthier you are.
TL;DR - Build your Castle on solid ground and you'll probably only need to do it once. Manage financial risks before attempting to build your empire.

Independent_kiwi 7y ago
Excellent advice.
In terms of asset management, diversification is key. One advantage of wealth is that it gives you more ways to diversify. But, imo, most people diversify far less than their opportunities allow them.
Knowing your risk tolerance is another key factor. In my experience, most people overestimate their risk tolerance, but a few underestimate it.
Finally, tailor your investments to your life goals. Investing with no clear goal eliminates a good chunk of the questions you can ask yourself and that a fiduciary can ask you on your behalf to decide what your investment strategy should be going forward.
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metallicdrama 7y ago
One of the best posts in a long time. Very relevant, cogent and honest.
10211799107 7y ago
Good post. Two books that don't fuck around are "The Simple Path to Wealth" and "The Bogleheads Guide to Investing". Jack Bogle changed the way you can save and beat the market every time. It's simple, spend less, save more, and use Index Funds. Don't look at the market excpet once a year when you rebalance.
BlackCraneStoic 7y ago
OP, what advice would you give to someone in their mind twenties in relation to investments and financial stability? Personally I have 6k stashed away but unfortunately due to unforeseen family occurances my saving accounts growth has been stunted. It was bound to reach 10k by mid-August but because of an emergency it's difficult to get it back together.
swimmingNafishbowl 7y ago
Sorry to hear things aren't going great. This is exactly why I wrote this post.
Generally, I'd tell you to shore up your emergency savings and other exposures before investing more (a possible exception here is if you're getting a match on your contributions to a retirement account or something like that).
Once you get back on your feet, research and consider a Roth IRA. You still need your savings readily available, but, worst case, if you blow through that, you can generally access up to the amount you've contributed before taxes and penalties start getting added to the mix. This may be a good second layer of defenses against unexpected expenses. If you need help choosing investments, seek out a fiduciary to point you in the right direction. See my reply to the comment about what books to read.
BlackCraneStoic 7y ago
If things were to stabilize and I were to buckle down on my expenses as a financial advisor how much would you recommend saving before looking into a Roth IRA? Thank you for the input. This type of information is golden for people my age. So little of it is available.
swimmingNafishbowl 7y ago
The idea for the savings is to keep you from being forced into taking on debt or selling off investments at unfavorable times. Therefore, a tailored number requires insight into your personal situation. Like I mentioned in my post, the idea is that, for most people, 6 months worth of expenses would get you through a period of unemployment or cover a large loss, provided you're properly insured to cover the remainder of the cost, by providing for your deductible. I wish I could provide you with more direction, but that's about much as I can say for general advice. Dont be scared to reach out to a fiduciary for help. A good adviser/planner will educate you and make sure you're not missing any important factors. Thanks for the positive feedback and good luck, Bro!
BlackCraneStoic 7y ago
Thanks for taking the time for posting this valuable input. It's posts like this that make TRP worth returning to now and again.
BayAreaRPChristian 7y ago
This is a great post. I was let go from my first job out of college but I saved up a good emergency fund. I was not worried at all the next day, killed my interviews in the following months, and found a great new job.
Later when my company had taken a turn for the worse, I voluntarily left my job, without another job lined up, because I had a large amount of savings. I interviewed with confidence knowing I wouldn’t starve and could pay rent, and found an even better job.
Emergency funds are great. You can then take this concept to its final form, FIRE (financial independence, retire early), which means you can live off of your investment growth alone. I hope to have this one day so I can have so much leverage in job negotiations. I still plan to work even if I FIRE, but I’ll be able to set the terms of how I work, not my employer.
Zenwarz 7y ago
Hey awesome post thank you, I have a lot to learn from this.
I have around 250k in cash that I earned with my startup.( plus at least one year savings if all goes to shit) Startup is still paying the bills but not able to save much on it. How would you invest that ?
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swimmingNafishbowl 7y ago
GTFOH, you sound like you're a call center financial advisor. My post is general education. The reason those laws even have to exist is for people like you who would listen to any asshole on the internet who promises to turn their $1mm into $10mm.
For those construing this as personal advice. It's not, I mean it to be general education for you to either research and make a decision or take to your trusted professional. I don't know you or your situation. Also, don't stick your dick in a running fan...
PS2Errol 7y ago
Everyone doesn't know about the 6-12 months savings. Barely anyone has anywhere near to that amount. Most have effectively zero savings of any kind.
chancechants 7y ago
57% of Americans have less than $1000 in savings.
RedPilledGodEmperor 7y ago
Learn how to invest in individual stocks. Yes, just buying the S&P 500 index (SPY) is nice for a decent return, but big returns are made by picking the best of the breed stocks. I have made a lot of money with a combination of stock picking and call options in great stocks. My portfolio has beaten the market the past few years.
Don't listen to the "experts" who say it's impossible to beat the market. Trying to get away from ETFs, as many tend to underperform the best stocks. If you know what you are doing, stock picking is the route for building wealth. You can settle with average returns and be average, or go for big returns that will make your net worth great
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Take a finance or economics class before spewing this bullshit. The vast majority of people are best off buying a basket of stocks, whether that is an index fund or actively managed fund.
You say get good at picking individual stocks. Lol. Just lol. What are you going to do? Read the 10k? Watch CNBC? So basically just use the same information that is available to everyone, but somehow beat the institutional investors who have all this information plus full time analysts and more sophisticated methods.
Notice that he provides no details on how he beats the market. He just does it with “call options” on “great stocks.”
[Insert story of how you beat the market here.]
RedPilledGodEmperor 7y ago
Honestly, yes the vast majority of people are better off buying an index fund. The thing you don't realize about institutional investors are that they have to invest in hundreds, if not thousands of stocks. It's hard to beat the market when you are picking so many stocks, versus investing in a select group of companies that are taking market share, growing revenue and cash flow at a fast pace and are in growing industries. Look at Square, Shopify, Align Technology, Visa, CGC, BABA, Domino's and many other great stocks that will continue to beat the market in the long term. It's about finding stocks with great fundamentals, management and where there are opportunities to grow.
Align Technology which you probably never heard of makes Invisalign. Reason why I invested in them is because I believe less people will use metal braces and will opt for clear aligners to fix their smile. They are growing at a fast pace and only have 10% market share of the orthodontist space. I am up a lot on my Jan 2019 $310 calls.
Visa and Square are going to continue to grow as we become a more cashless society. It's about recognizing trends and the companies that are capitalizing off them.
Shopify is capitalizing on the growth of e-commerce and more people wanting to do business online to make money.
CGC will capitalize off the growth of the marijuana industry which is going to be huge.
Domino's has been growing internationally and using technology to make it more efficient to order online in a society where people are ordering food online more.
Stop spewing nonsense that it's impossible to find companies that will beat the market long term. The experts and analysts want people to think that you can't successfully invest in individual stocks.. Calls are a great way to invest in companies with less capital than outright buying 100 shares for leverage or a stock replacement strategy. Continue thinking with a BP mindset in investing, being satisfied with a paltry 8-10% average annual return, while I make more money by investing in stocks I like and know well.
Stop Thinking Small and Start Thinking Big
M23W0OH7FV2t 7y ago
All the "experts" (if you listen to them) add "consistently" or other caveats when they say this. SPY is an average, sometimes the individual stock pick will do better than it, other times it won't.
Beating the market isn't a question of "knowing what you are doing", it boils down to either (a) having enough funds to make the market or (b) getting lucky. If you're in the first situation, congratulations. If the latter, luck doesn't last forever.
swimmingNafishbowl 7y ago
Just to round out this point: The reason this (mostly correct) point is so often misunderstood is that people don't hear the full message. No one's been shown to reliably beat the market on a risk-adjusted basis. This is well-documented in the literature, all the way back to the 50 -60's, I believe, when Markowitz published his paper on modern portfolio theory. Google it: it's not hard to understand and it's the spine of the diversification argument.
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RedPilledGodEmperor doesn’t care. He will pick stocks and beat the market. Damn the experts, full speed ahead! How...? Just trust him.
crowscountingspades 7y ago
"F#$\^ you" money had better be a whole lot more than six months if you're going to develop a "#$%\^ you" attitude to go along with it.
swimmingNafishbowl 7y ago
I guess that depends on how valuable your skills are to society. Every man should spend some time learning business priciples. There are tons of resources online that are free or low cost. Regardless of your craft, at least then you can hang your own shingle, if times get tough!
dynasty_400 7y ago
Thanks so much bro! Going on ny own soon, needed this
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iknowthewhey 7y ago
This is key and this is why the rich get richer and their kids are successful. Having full college paid for, having access to the best SAT/ACT tutors and paying $40k a year for high school and $60k a year for college. The kids then walk out of college with a high-paying job that they can walk away from if they want because their parents have money. It is important not to be completely reliant on your job or your job will be taking advantage of you. Abundance mentality in all aspects of life is the goal.
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swimmingNafishbowl 7y ago
Sounds like a CD product of some sort. To be fair here, what I mean isn't dollars in your mattress. A checking, savings, money market, or similar solution is what I mean by cash. Bonds and bond funds still fluctuate in value, which poses a significant risk. Say, for example, the market declines and you also get laid off (2008). Then, you're right back to square one. Solid point, though.
Giddleor 7y ago
Any advice on investing (what to invest in and when) for a college kid? Work is good money but im about to move out, so a little extra side money wouldn't hurt.
TheTrenTrannyTrain 7y ago
Always try to spend more money on appreciating assets than depreciating ones. For example stocks, bonds, REITs, real estate rentals. Learn about index investing, buy it and forget it.
equal2infinity 7y ago
Great post! I think this should be a primary focus of a lot of people here. Having the financial means to do what you want gives you a different mindset and allows you to emanate passive dread in both intimate relationships and in a professional setting.
For instance I am currently employed in a niche field and have received several offers from our customers to contract direct (1099) for them. I make over 6 figures now and my position is good for networking but the corporate environment has grown stale. I have coworkers that are in similar positions but are saddled with debt and lifestyle creep. I own several cash flowing real estate properties and am cashing out of an investment now that would allow me to float my very comfortable lifestyle for about 3-4 years if I wanted. My boss knows about my real estate investments and about the offers I’ve been receiving to work for 3 times the pay I’m receiving now. He’s trying to do everything he can to keep me. Do you think my fellow coworkers are getting this same treatment? No. He knows they don’t have other options or are too scared to risk going out in their own.
Be smart about your lifestyle choices gents!
The_Chiselnator 7y ago
Fuck you money is very important. But what exactly is it?
It is the amount of money you would require to maintain your PRESENT lifestyle without having to take anyone's bullshit whether that is an employer or a client.
Unfortunately many people I discuss this topic with (friends, relatives, mentees) don't actually want their PRESENT lifestyles. They want a better lifestyle. So they figure that they will spend all current earnings to put themselves on the path to earn more money and preserve that future abstract lifestyle. This path can be lottery, ponzi schemes, eddymacation at basketweaving college.
If you live in a trailer park, first make sure you can live there with your girl Mary Sue and the dog, Buck for at least 3 years without working for Scooter Floyd down the road.
Once you land on a beach you have to secure the beachhead, right? Once you earn some money and buy a trailer, secure that. And work upwards.
If you reduce insecurity for yourself, it is easier to think clearly. When I took charge of my life I tried my damnedest to make sure that at any one time I had enough savings to pay rent and utilities for 5 years. And that I could feed, dress and locomote my ass for the same period without an income.
It wasn't hard to save that amount of money. I just stopped drinking first. That was the most significant step I ever made. I quit the drink. Everything became clearer after that. Granted my expenses were 700 bucks a month back then. But that helped.
swimmingNafishbowl 7y ago
Great points all around. I too gave up drinking several years ago and it's been one of my best decisions to date. Glad to hear you figured this out years ago!
gixxerthouguy 7y ago
Agreed - as a divorced father it is important to be clued up financially. I live a very boring lifestyle compared to my ex-wife. She likes to spend spend spend, but I like that Fuck You fund to be nice and high. Since the divorce I have been able to save more than I could when married - even though I have to pay her £££ in child support, and further £££ when the kids come see me.
Make sure you have the rainy day / fuck you money. I know that if my car breaks down, if the boiler in the house breaks, I can resolve the problem without hitting the credit card. If you rent a property, save a deposit and buy. This is essential.
Focus on reducing your debt to a minimum. Do you really need that flash car / expensive motorbike? Get your debts paid off, save some cash. This is ultimately getting yourself in a good financial position. Then maintain it, and protect it. Do not let a woman with less financial stability get in a position to make a claim on it.
EDIT: spelling, grammar.
RedPilledGodEmperor 7y ago
Yep and just to add, DO NOT GET MARRIED. I don't get why some men on here still delude themselves into thinking that if they find the "right one" things will be great. Not worth it.
Never been married and never will. I like taking risks with money, but they need to be calculated risks, where there is a reward. marriage doesn't have some reward that you can get vs. not being married. Take money you would have spent on the "dream wedding" and put in the stock market or real estate. much better return on investment.
SuperCrazy07 7y ago
I agree with pretty much everything you said except the six months part.
To have true outcome independence for your actions, you need years of savings/investments. While the most extreme example in our lifetime, people who got laid off and had a 6 month nest egg at the end of 2008 were in trouble.
While some people who were laid off were able to get work, a lot of talented people took far longer than expected to regain employment.
tommy240 7y ago
I've got a question regarding leveraging debt.... I live my life on a budget and I can tell you my net worth to the penny (including company pensions etc)... I think about money all the time, it's a huge priority for me. I've been pumping 10% of my wage per month into a Robotics & Automation ETF since 2015, but there's a voice in the back of my head telling me to take out a personal loan (lowest rate I've been quoted was $30k at 10.9% annual) and dump it in the ETF.... I definitely wouldn't do the whole $30k, but what about $5k? There's no fucking way Robotics isn't going to explode in the near future, and I want to pad my position as much as possible. However, the principality of taking out personal credit (which I will have to pay back with interest ) to put into an ETF seems strange to me.
ebaymasochist 7y ago
dude please do not do this. I used to trade stocks that had nothing to do with whatever crisis was lowering the market at that time- and they still went down. You're investment in robotics and automation is at the mercy of an automated stock market that takes damn near everything down with it, when it decides to go down. You would be better off starting a business offering a service to robotics companies than investing passively in an etf that will be at the mercy of the stock market. Robotics may be the future, I agree, but the economy around it may not be doing so hot in a few years. There are just too many risks to use borrowed money
tommy240 7y ago
I appreciate the input.... but for what it's worth, when the market goes down, I go on a shopping spree. I don't need to try and time the market at the exact bottom, just a general overarching downtrend. You aren't wrong about anything you wrote though, I'm just gonna stockpile cash and wait for the inevitable dip.
ebaymasochist 7y ago
Look into HIX.. it pays over 8% dividend, monthly rather than quarterly, so it compounds at a higher rate if you reinvest the dividend. A few years ago it was paying 10% dividend.
tommy240 7y ago
Damn, that looks great.... too bad I can't get my hands on it as I'm in the UK and my broker doesn't offer access to it. I rely on REIT's for dividend income right now, but always looking for more... I'm gonna calm down with ROBO for a little while and get some money pumped into an eCommerce ETF once the trade war starts hurting Amazon and AliBaba. Thanks for the help
SillyPutty47 7y ago
You think ROBO or BOTZ will average higher than 10.9%? Leveraging debt in something like a HELOC at 4% or under might make sense of you aren't risk adverse buy taking out loans at guaranteed 10.9% interest isn't wise. You may lose money in the market and still be liable for paying back the loan.
tommy240 7y ago
Lol yea you aren't wrong about any of that but if the market holds I can beat 10.9% as I have been since I've started investing in ROBO in 2015... It's only £3,000 I'm looking at playing with, but yea... Likey not worth the risk due to the reasons you mentioned, being on the hook for the loan + interest and losing money on the investment itself would suck. It will clearly rebound eventually, but that won't make it suck any less in the moment.
melonhead2288 7y ago
You’re relying on your forecast that the Robotics ETF will earn you more than 10.9% net of platform and transaction charges. I know nothing about Robotics and Automation, but I know that in general leveraging personal debt to punt on the stock exchange is a very risky strategy and should be avoided in most scenarios.
I would advise a more conservative approach of investing steadily into the ETF (if that is your chosen investment) on a regular basis using your earnings - if you can tighten your budget or reduce living costs you can put away more money each month. This approach will smooth out the ups and downs of the market and prevents you taking on a large amount of personal debt.
tommy240 7y ago
Yea, I've been investing steadily into it since 2015 I'm just looking to pad it... Mathematically I think I've got a good shot at beating 10.9% if the market holds, but I likely won't bother due to the risk of a market correction/crash... just kicking some ideas around in my head.
spread_awareness 6y ago
holy shit. 10.9% interest rate is gigantic.. I had the opportunity recently to borrow 30k for 0.95% interest rate...
ApexmanRP 7y ago
This sounds very risky. beating a rate of 10.9% over the length of the loan sounds like a tall order. And I don't know whether (depending on where you are) there is tax to pay on any gains?
I don't think you should be pumping 10% into this ETF myself, this sounds like the kind of thing you put 5% of your portfolio in.
tommy240 7y ago
It's a tax free account and I'm only looking at £3,000.... You're not wrong about anything though, just contemplating the idea
ApexmanRP 7y ago
I would leave your money that you have in there, but start diversifying your future additional money into other things..
DayGameChirality 7y ago
I think more important is to have multiple sources of income. That way ure golden
swimmingNafishbowl 7y ago
Devil's in the details there. I'll take one hugely profitable business over 2-3 marginally profitable rental properties, for example, any day. You make a good point and diversification (of income streams, in this case), is also a risk management strategy, though typically more well-known in investments.
ApexmanRP 7y ago
Your comment doesn't make sense - 3 rental properties isn't 3 income streams, its one business with 3 assets. the 3 assets are all subject to the same market conditions.
You want a good profitable business AND 3 rental properties, assuming the business isn't in real estate, you have 2 diversified incomes.
swimmingNafishbowl 7y ago
If my comment doesn't make sense, you're missing the point and splitting hairs here. The point was that diversification of income is a good practice, thank you for bringing this up, but not in and of itself a replacement for the other risk management strategies I put forward.
ApexmanRP 7y ago
Hands up, I read your comment incorrectly.
To follow through on what you said, this is in fact, the way I have gone, I use my business to generate cash to put into other more diversified things.
The risk of course with putting everything into starting a business is that it can crash and burn and zero you out. So, once you have a successful business, start diversifying into other things.
swimmingNafishbowl 7y ago
No sweat, man. Congratulations on building something meaningful. Often, I have to beat the concept of diversification into my business owner clients. Good on you for being rational!
As a side note for readers: if you're short on start-up funds, look for opportunities where you can use your skills as a service and invest only what's required. Let you initial investment generate some profits to prove up the market and reinvest. Like ApexmanRP said, don't dump everything in from the jump!
Skuggasveinn 7y ago
Great post. This is especially important to the younger guys here.
I have a fund (mostly indexes) that I call my freedom fund.
It is fuck money.
It gives me freedom of mind.
When you get your finances in order you ooze swag that girls pick up on.
My 2 cents for the younger guys out there: put 10% of your income into the s&p500 (reinvest the dividends) and you can have your fuck you money - or freedom fund.
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That last part. If we could run around reddit and beat the shit out of every early-twenties out there until they listened and acted on it, we would. 10% aside feels like nothing after the first month or so, and then later on, fuck you money abounds.
Awesome thread.
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TitanUcheze 7y ago
Wouldn't say pennies, but there's a post up by Mr. Money Mustache (MMM) on his blog that shows the percentage of your income that you save vs how many years until you can retire and have your investments provide for your standard of living.
Skuggasveinn 7y ago
Yes Vanguard.also Fidelity.
Pennies?
Well it depends on your income I guess.
Younger guys generally have lower income.
20% can also work. There is no one number fits all. It depends.
ericred22 7y ago
10% is a good starting point, but you'll want a lot more than that if you have any plans of retiring early. I'm saving 85%+ after tax, although I have the advantage of living with my parents so my only recurring expenses are insurance & food.
KINGahRoo 7y ago
You could save 110% if your parents paid you!
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ttttenthumbs 7y ago
This post is fucking fantastic. Thank you for this, and hopefully you have more to come. I’d be really interested in what your thoughts are on the FIRE movement? (Financial Independence, Retire Early) and what you think are the best building blocks to wealth? I’ve currently got my own business and the last couple of months have been hard as I’ve been coming out of a rut and moving past an old, ineffective and destructive mindset and set of behaviours.
TitanUcheze 7y ago
I've been a pretty steady lurker and occasionally poster in both the Financial Independence, leanFIRE, and fatFIRE subreddits. Those subreddits in combination with TRP has changed my life, each in different ways, but together they form an unstoppable mindset and frame with which to execute life.
swimmingNafishbowl 7y ago
I'll have to check them out! Thanks for the lead and congratulations on living your best life!
ttttenthumbs 7y ago
Legend. Thanks for those, will check them out.
swimmingNafishbowl 7y ago
Thanks Man! I'm not familiar with the FIRE term, but agree with the premise. Just like anything else in RP, happiness comes from having options. Being able to retire or follow your passion instead of the next check is no exception.
When it comes to building wealth, I'm a huge proponent of entrepreneurship (congratulations on getting back in gear, business ownership is a meat grinder, but worth it for the independence). I also think the accumulation of "stuff" instead of saving and investing is what gets in most people's way. I own a couple houses that I rent and have instead lived in a fifth wheel for months now (post-divorce). Not because I have to, but it's so damn cheap and provides me with everything I need. $1500/month total expenses (which includes 2 car notes). All my extra money can be poured back into my business(es) or other investments.
Swallowing the financial RP and realizing that you've been indoctrinated your whole life by marketers will go a long way in making you rich.
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kingbraderz 7y ago
Any no bullshit books you’d recommend for more practical information?
KernelMayhem 7y ago
1) The Millionaire Next Door 2) The Millionaire Mind 3) Stop Acting Rich 4) Rich Dad Poor Dad 5) The Total Money Makeover
Ani_ 7y ago
Start off with The Millionaire Nextdoor
swimmingNafishbowl 7y ago
Honestly, most of my reading comes from prescribed texts and research during my studies (Masters and several professional designations) and probably more than you need. Alot of money "experts" are like diet "experts;" they try to put new sizzle on the same ol' steak. You'll be better off than most if you can:
If you really want no BS information to study yourself, I'd suggest getting access to peer-reviewed industry journals. Alternatively, all the books I've read that are endorsed by the Chartered Financial Anaylist (CFA) institute or written by their Charter Holders have been top-notch. After one or two, you'll probably know more than the average financial advisor.
lenovoisshit 7y ago
Can you post a link to these books? I can’t seem to find any. Thanks
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[deleted] 7y ago
Wish I had fuck you money. Obtaining is easier said than done. Unfortunately the vast majority of us are and will forever remain plugged into the matrix as we depend on it for employment.
NormalAndy 7y ago
Rule of thumb: never risk more than 2% (fully realised loss) of your total worth on any given enterprise.
(Old trading maxim)
ApexmanRP 7y ago
You are talking about the investment portfolio management that sits alongside diversification. However, the flip of that is focus, which you have to apply (usually) if you start a business.
When I started my business I put everything I had into it and quite a lot of what I didn't! (focus). Now, my business is a cash machine that I take out to put into other things (diversification).
Auvergnat 7y ago
Surely you mean in one stock. Because investing in real estate needs much more than 2%
swimmingNafishbowl 7y ago
Not bad for the typical retail investor investing in stocks/bonds. The rule, as I've seen it, is generally more toward 5%, but even then, almost no entrepreneur can reasonably be expected to follow that guidence.
NormalAndy 7y ago
It's good to take risks but, as a risk taker, it is important to manage exposure so you don't blow out on one big idea that fails. It's too easy to be talked into things- including buying insurance imo.
swimmingNafishbowl 7y ago
Managing exposure is related to investing and wealth accumulation. Not what's being discussed here. It won't help when you need to sell off the entire portfolio you're "trading" (which is a shit strategy for the vast majority of the population) due to some unexpected expense. Put forward a case and I'll rebut. Being talked into a better situation is not a bad thing. It's collective learning and it's what this sub is for.
NormalAndy 7y ago
I'm just thinking from the point of being sensible/ managing risk vs. 'carting your nuts in a wheelbarrow', which, although it shoulds Chad, is probably quite foolish.
If you are managing risk and your analysis tell you that you are onto a 'sure thing', your nuts and the barrow are both locked away safely.
On the other side of the coin, no unusual success without unusual risk.
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PS2Errol 7y ago
Peter Schiff advises people to have a whole year of living expenses in cash. That is serious peace of mind!
swimmingNafishbowl 7y ago
That's not a horrible idea. There are risks to having too much in cash, as well; mainly inflation and opportunity risk. That said, I usually suggest that my retired clients keep 2 years worth of required portfolio income in cash with the goal of never letting this dip below 6 months. The idea is they can then take on greater equity exposure and weather most bear markets, which have historically lasted 6-12 months.
murphyA91 7y ago
Looking forward to your budgeting post!!
Expectations1 7y ago
I agree with this. I would even go so far as to say you need about 1 years worth of your salary saved up for pure mobility and the ability to walk away.
PS2Errol 7y ago
Put 5-10% of assets in precious metals as well. Just buy the odd gold coin whenever you can (half ounce or even quarter ounces are fine). Very useful to hold them completely outside the banking system.
naIamgood 7y ago
Gold is dead. It is not practical in the digital age
PsychedelicDentist 7y ago
This guy knows what is coming
kanyewost 7y ago
We need a full seperate post on this topic. too important for us to ignore
PsychedelicDentist 7y ago
Have you seen Mike maloneys "hidden secrets of money" series? This could be a good basic introduction
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SillyPutty47 7y ago
What if a flood or wildfire takes out your food stash? Now you've wasted time and money preparing a food stash that is useless.
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SillyPutty47 7y ago
Knowing how to hunt, farm, fish, and forage seems like a better plan to me. To each their own.
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jewishsupremacist88 7y ago
any business advice for introverts? aside from investing/trading is there anything you would suggest for the less vocal types?
swimmingNafishbowl 7y ago
Maybe an internet-based business. Starting a Shopify store or becoming an Amazon supplier might work. There are lots of strategies used in these businesses, but I've heard private labeling is the cash cow over the long haul.
In the meantime, you should work on getting comfortable being uncomfortable. Don't let a label like introvert stop you from capitalizing on opportunities. We tend to enjoy what we do well and we tend to do well at things we practice. We're a social species; go out and cold approach strangers until it's no longer an issue!
jewishsupremacist88 7y ago
thanks. im not afraid to talk to people, i just have a hard time doing "small talk" and feel like most people are a waste of my time.
swimmingNafishbowl 7y ago
I get that, really. They may be a waste of time, but their money isn't!!
Really though, just trying to encourage, not criticize. In that case, you could also offer services online. Udemy has coding classes for less than $20 bucks all the time. That may be a side hustle that could turn into a full on consulting business, where email communication is not out of the ordinary. Either way, good luck!
scissor_me_timbers00 7y ago
What’s private labeling? I’m seriously interested in an online business
swimmingNafishbowl 7y ago
I'm no expert on this, but essentially, it's a buy low - sell high strategy. Take kettle bells for example: You build a website with some content and then sell Kettle bells (nothing special) with your logo on them at a steep mark-up. Usually these stores have a theme due to the other value adds (such as content).
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I think opposite. Rather than squirrel away a ton of money to support your spendy lifestyle, use minimalism to work out what you really need and want, and live as thrifty as possible. It can be quite fun deciding you want something, and spending the time and energy trying to find it for the cheapest way :)
You don't even need food.. long term fasting (water only) is really good for you.