Their all the same!!! Their never special!!

I’m just curious.

How did you react immediately after she said that.

And I’m assuming down the line you ditched her ?

It never ceases to amaze the downright degrading and disgusting things your average woman will do for the right guy.

1) "She's an actress, HB8. She has tons of followers on instagram"

Define ton of followers. If we're talking 5k+, then that generally means attention whore, aka red flag that she's a slut. Sure, AWALT, but the slut meter is a continuous scale. Women vary on it, and you generally want to find the ones that slide towards less-slutty on that meter as opposed to the ones who are narcissistic/BPD/infantile and would feel no qualms about smashing a different guy behind your back every week.

2) Fantasizing about marriage three dates in? C'mon. (we've all been there but learn from it)

3) Nothing wrong with waiting 3 dates for sex. What is wrong is when you have expectations of her being some 'good girl' and you deliberately wait to have sex with her because of that image you have of her.

What you should do is always remember that she's DTF on the 1st date but it's completely up to you when you want to smash. This gives you power. Don't pressure yourself into having to smash her ASAP but also don't deliberately wait just because you think you 'should.' Smash her whenever you want. If the moment's that right on the 1st date to smash, then go ahead and do it.

Personally, I take it slower these days. The majority of girls are down to fuck on the first date if you know what you're doing, but that gets old quick. Sometimes it's better to delay gratification. If a girl gets pissed that you won't fuck her quick, then get rid of her (use this as a screening tool), because God knows what else she'd be pissed about down the line and how much of a headache she'll be.

I had a girl get pissed at me and felt insecure that she wasn't hot enough because I wasn't smashing her right away, and I should have taken note of that because down the line she was a headache in many other areas.

PSA: Never ask a woman/girl what was the best sex of her life.

WHY?

1. She will then begin to think of the best sex of her life. And the image she has is not your face.
2. No matter WHAT her answer is, you have now placed pressure on yourself to be the best sex she has ever had.

Always assume, in your mind, your dick is the biggest. You are the best sex that she will ever have. That kind of confidence will get you the girl.

To the OP: Don't feel bad. I have literally done this twice to myself. But we live, learn, and swallow the red pill. I am proud of you for realizing it as quickly as you did. It took me a much longer time.

OP if your goal is sex just go to a hooker. Stop wasting your time baby sitting women entertaining them.

'She then told me. "I have to confess something, I don't want something quick..."'

Should've told her you last pretty long, bro.

To better understand woman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxpVwBzFAkw&t=162s

https://therationalmale.com/2012/12/19/the-epiphany-phase/

It’s during this stage that women will make radical shifts in their prioritization of what prerequisite traits qualify as ‘attractive’ in a man and attempt to turn over a new leaf by changing up their behaviors to align with this new persona they create for themselves. Since the physicality, sexual prowess and Alpha dominance that made up her former arousal cues in a Man aren’t as forthcoming from men as when she was in her sexual prime, she reprioritizes them with (presumed) preferences for more intrinsic male attributes that stress dependability, provisioning capacity, humor, intellect, and esoteric definitions of compatibility and intimacy.

For the spiritually inclined woman (which is to say most women) this may manifest in a convenient return to convictions she’d disregarded since her adolescence. For other’s it may be some kind of forced celibacy; a refusal to have sex under the hypergamic auspices of her ‘party years’ in the hopes that a well provisioning male (the ones not realizing their own potential SMV as yet) will appreciate her for her prudence – so unlike herself and all of the other girls who rejected him over the last decade.

The self-affirming psychological schema is one where she’s “finally doing the right thing”, when in fact she’s simply making the necessity of her long term provisioning and security a virtue she hopes men will appreciate. And if they don’t, then there’s always shaming them to think they’re ‘less-than-men’ for not living up to her eating her cake once she’s had it.

Great realization, man. It's a splash of cold water to the face. Can you provide us an update on what happened postliminary to this realization?

Did you hard/soft-next? What was her reaction?

I was kinda surprised that she was so excited when I asked her out.

Here is your first fuck up.

2nd date I started to see her differently. "Damn, this girl is like marriage material, so innocent, and gorgeous, not dumb etc.".

Here is your second fuck up.

At some point for some odd reason I thought this girl was different, marriage material.

And here is your third fuck up.

You went on Three. Fucking. Dates.

Three.

Why the fuck are you fantasizing about marrying some broad after three dates?

Don't shit on this girl because you asked a stupid question and got a stupid fucking answer.

Shit on yourself for thinking about Marriage within, again, three dates.

good job bro, keep up the good fight. this shit is hilarious.

At what point during kissing do you just call a time out and start playing 20 questions? Even if you're BP to the core that's a de-escalation of cosmic proportions. Talk about blue balls.

Great reminder of AWALT as well as the DHYD(don't hide your dick) way of living ????

Don’t beat yourself up. What can I say? You thought this woman was better than she is.

I agree that it’s not worth your while to ask such a question—unless she’s a virgin, probably no good can come of it. OTOH if you were actually thinking about marrying the girl, her prior sexual experiences do matter. There appears to be a very real correlation between increasing N counts and divorce risk, so some solid assessment of her sexual history matters.

Be wary and protect yourself from women, but never beat yourself up for being human.

this post was so retarded

'' She tells me she has a lot of orbiters, that she sometimes feels she can't have male friends because they always fall in love, etc. ''

> For some reason at the 2nd date I started to see her differently. "Damn, this girl is like marriage material, so innocent,

lol

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You didn't fuck her? I thought that was kinda the point...

said she didn't want something quick,

That's an AF/BB sorting statement. As you found out, AWALT. You want her to enter your frame, do not enter hers.

Also...

when in doubt, whip it out!

Okay but I feel it needs to be said - as much as this guy clearly did some things right to get her, she was also receptive to it at that point in time.

AWALT is a fact, but it is contextual. Women are human - gasp - and go through different seasons in life. Sometimes they are subtly ready for adventure, sometimes they don't want shit to do with it, sometimes the pressure to lock a guy down takes over and she simply won't fuck every Chad, sometimes her career is most important.. do I need to go on?

So yes, AWALT. But "right place at right time" plays into this a lot. The hottest guy with the best game will still not be able to get a girl if she is looking for something more. Even if he is her perfect "type", she'll still put up resistance if she, for example, realizes that her time is running out and she has to find commitment.

Good to see you rescued yourself before you fell into the position prepared for you i.e. beta-cuck provider

Consider this a wake-up call. Keep your wits about you.