Just go and talk to women. That's it. Just go and start a conversation. For beginners, just ask them, "Where is the nearest McDonald's?". However they may react to this, if you feel like talking to them some more, do it. Otherwise just bail. Do this enough and you will get good at pick up.
The problem with too much pick up info is that guys go out to pickup with a goal in mind, which they have read or heard from somewhere. This unnecessarily stifles them. Some part of their brain power is spent on judging their progress in relation to that goal. This stresses them out and the actual personality is not able to come out.
If you look at all the pick up advice out there, you can notice that all of it is just a means to an end to bring out the free, loose, present human being that is you. But it's something that cannot be brought upon by reading words. It's more like a result of being free of presumptuous thoughts or expectations.
My challenge to you all is to just go out for the next 7 days with just the intent of starting a conversation. And then if you feel like continuing the conversation, do it. Otherwise just politely move on to start the next conversation and do the same. No pressure for any n close, inst date, makeout etc. Just do this. Your results will be of a different quality, because you will be spending time with girls that genuinely evoke a response from you. Plus your stress level in relation to pickup will be significantly low, as you won't be thinking of what to do next constantly as there is not specific goal in mind. The goal is to just converse genuinely. Good luck, guys.

Cthula-Hoops 8y ago
Everything is easier with practice. You try and you fail and you get more fluent during flirting. Its not like you have limited chances to improve.
SuspiciousCaptain 8y ago
Its so hard for me the idea to start talking to a girl I dont know, I dont get what I could talk to her. Its sounds amazingly creepy here to start talking her in the street just out of nowhere. Lets say Im waiting for the train(Which happens daily), a girl comes by my side, what could I say to her to just conversate?
it_takes_the_redpill 8y ago
This is an exercise to help you get over this anxiety.
What would you say to an kind old man that sits there next to you? It doesn't matter, does it? Because it's some nice old guy who probably just wants to chat about the weather.
If approaching to hit on a girl is too scary, try approaching and asking her about the weather, or if she likes sports, or something.
Probably don't ask about sports.
The point is, at first you just want to go out and talk to them. Tell yourself this isn't sexual. You aren't going to focus on her looks. You aren't going to ask for her number. You are going to go up, and have a chat with a nice old man that just happens to look like a hot bodied young woman.
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I've been in the exact situation of waiting for a train and noticed a cute girl next to me. All I said was 'hey, been waiting long?'. And it just flowed from there. Dumb line, but anything works better than staring at the floor and regretting it. Girls give you a few chances but they won't open you.
If the girl is halfway receptive she will put some effort into the conversation once you open.
Got her number within the 10 minutes it took to get to my station, and had her in my bed the next weekend.
barricade551 8y ago
It could be about literally anything man. If you think she’s pretty, just be straight up and tell her. Say something like, “hello I don’t normally do this but I saw you and thought you are very pretty and couldn’t miss this opportunity to come say hello”. Even if she turns you down, she will admire your sincerity. By being straight up with her like that, you’re making your intentions clear in addition to doing what 99.9% of other guys won’t do which is simply going over and talking to her. Always remember, “you miss 100% of the shots you don’t take”- Wayne Gretzky
DBsix 8y ago
Start small and simple. Just make a point of saying literally one line to any girl that comes near you. Could even be simple as asking for the time. Make just that your goal. If you feel like saying something more after the opener, do it. Or don't. No pressure.
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DBsix 8y ago
Not the words, the vibe is what makes any difference.
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I think the internet is turning most men into autistic spergs, spend some time offline
pineapple_wizard24 8y ago
Hey totally random but where are places that you can take a girl you met recently? Neither of us are 21 so that limits our options. I've heard mixed opinions on going out to eat somewhere.
Malestrom45 8y ago
Go on an action date. Don’t go out to dinner.
pineapple_wizard24 8y ago
Seems more fun and less cliche. Thanks
Ray_pinasses1210 8y ago
Personally I use the 3 second rule.
If I see a woman I want to approach, if my body isn’t physically heading in her direction in 3 seconds from the time I see her, then it’s game over. Women can sense hesitation, and constantly trying to look over/make eye contact can look creepy
Plus i believe you psych yourself out if you wait longer than 3 seconds. You start doubting yourself and doing the whole “what if...” scenario in your head
So walk in, if you see a girl you like, go for it. Don’t hesitate and start spinning your wheels
shockinghillaryquote 8y ago
GREAT RULE. I sort of sense that too -- ANY hesitation is death. It's over. They can see it, feel it.
Going with the gut quick is natural and normal, even if it's almost instant -- like you walk up to the Starbucks girl and you're like, "Wow!" but you hesitate. Nah. Just be open like, "Damn you're gorgeous" or whatever comes to mind, maybe a joke.
What's worse is when you chat and have a nice vibe, then say nothing -- don't ask her out, or get a number. You freeze. Then you see her again with the intention of asking out then. At that point you've worn out the welcome and she's gonna be like, "Oh ...right." She's wondering why it took a second time for you to get the courage to say it.
Zoltiel 8y ago
I do something similar. I'm pretty good at holding a conversation, but I have terrible approach anxiety. Usually if I can just get myself to say "hey", I'll have no problem taking it from there. So that's my rule, the "Just say 'hey'" rule.
ZelixNocturna 8y ago
What do you say when you approach like this?
Ray_pinasses1210 8y ago
You’ll find that if you exude charisma and confidence and have positive body language, it’s not what you say at all But how you say it
jacksonmaher 8y ago
I use this rule as well, to answer your question I just say what comes off the top of my head, if it sounds retarded who cares; at least I'm approaching. I normally follow the rule - find out something about them by making an assumption 'Are you Italian? Something about your eyes' followed by making a joke 'Italy is in America right? Did you see the Pyrimids while you were there?' - then follow through, whatever you decide dont worry if it fucks up, its not like it even matters. Think about it, your going up to a chick putting your self out there while someone else your age is probably sitting on a couch drinking 4x golds, remember you either win or you learn.
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cupshadow 8y ago
Doesn't seem to bad if it's working for him.
Patuxent_Prime 8y ago
I have a friend EXACTLY like this. He’s incredibly awkward, but he approaches chicks without hesitation. He’s never successful due to his poor social skills though. Pretty sure he has mild Aspergers.
imtheoneimmortal 8y ago
just help him and tell TRP and he will be best RP
Ray_pinasses1210 8y ago
It’s calledAspergers lol That nigga is autistic, literally
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Yea dude’s on the spectrum
TheEnglishman28 8y ago
But he is the realest nigga around. Fact.
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Maybe not the realist, but the illest.
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borp900 8y ago
How is he socially awkard? Just asking
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shockinghillaryquote 8y ago
Just being loud and extraverted and clueless will get you far with women vs. being shy / boring.
This guy will be ok. He sounds like a blast to observe, probably hilarious watching these antics.
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LaucitoZ 8y ago
I have no McDonalds in my city, this is not for me.
GeneRD 8y ago
"My phone died. What time is it?"
TheEnglishman28 8y ago
Ask her where to get a taco bowl then
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argusboy 8y ago
Yeah, and I have no gas stations...
LaucitoZ 8y ago
You think I'm joking, I don't. I live in a small city in Israel.
DBsix 8y ago
Some might say the line works even better in that case.
But the point is, you can literally say anything. Whatever you feel you can say at first, just start with that.
Trowawayantifap28 8y ago
Indeed, it is an opener to a convo about how wierd it is that there is no mc donald. Its great.
no92 8y ago
I generally thought the where's x, or what time is it lines were stupid. However after a night of drinking my friends would go up to people asking where the nearest taco bell is. These people clearly didn't want to talk to us, they were unfriendly, and looked unapproachable. But we ignored that. The good part is what you do after. We'd walk in the direction they pointed then come back and say we couldn't find it (at which point they looked even more mad and unapproachable). Good for losing anxiety at least.
it_takes_the_redpill 8y ago
Where do you live, Atlantis?
cBIGONE 8y ago
Even Atlantis has fish burgers probably. I bet an Atlantis McD's would taste phenomenal.
Your burger would come with a fucking trident sticking through it. Poseidon would deliver it to you on a massive water wake. Would be sick
727JTH 8y ago
Atlantis is in America right?
WellShit321 8y ago
You see the great wall when you were there?
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prodigy2throw 8y ago
Dude you can’t improvise fucking McDonald’s to Wendy’s? Or potato stand? Or whatever the fuck you have where you are?
Menchstick 8y ago
Or understand a joke without an /s at the end?
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Thynome 8y ago
I think the use of /s kinda ruins jokes
727JTH 8y ago
Yup. It's like if ur jokes not funny enough to not need the s... It's probably best to save it
uglytoadinsauce 8y ago
Having a friend aka wingman to push you can also be helpful in the early stages.
DBsix 8y ago
True. Definitely helps. I remember the first time I ever went out to do this, was with two other guys who knew about pick up in my city. We met for the first time that day.
The three of us n00bs made shit even tougher for each other somehow, by regurgitating the different theories we had read about pick up. Hardly any approach was made. But they pushed me in set once, as I was annoying them with theory, and I had a 5 minute conversation with two girls. They were sweet and happy to talk to about nearby sports bars. My mind was blown. I had never been more stoked on myself till then.
That first approach explained to my brain that you don't die when you talk to stranger girls. Nowadays I don't need to rely on guys who know about pick up to go out with. Literally any guy who is with me gets to chat with pretty girls if I see one.
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Fail often, its the best way to succeed.
VasiliyZaitzev 8y ago
Faint Heart Never Fucked Fair Lady.
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Yep. If I go out to 'daygame' then I just wander around in fear unable to even approach a fatty to ask where starbucks is because of all the expectations and trying to run through what comes next after the opener like DHV and negs and all that.
If I go out with a friend to a bar and am just hanging out and a girl 'bumps into me' I will start talking like I've known her for years and probably get a number 1/4 of the time if I actually want to.
When it's an 'approach' it's suddenly this Big Thing that I am all of a sudden unprepared for when it's literally just talking to someone.
TheJackal619 8y ago
I just imagine them with a really bad case of diarrhea..
redxpills 8y ago
So the goal is to not have a goal. Rather than just do it and maintain a conversation?
Personally, I always prefer the direct approach way (with a very little conversation), it cuts out some BS and basically telling them what you want, you want their number and tell her you are attracted to her, if she's attracted to you then you get her number. She rejects then she's not attracted to you. Simple.
DBsix 8y ago
You already approach. This advice is for people suffering from crippling AA. The idea is to remove the pressure of achieving a goal, which is an added stress that exacerbates AA even more. Just start a conversation. Then if you feel comfortable doing it, transition or talk about whatever you feel like. Or bail. Start enough conversations and soon you will find your groove and start having longer ones.
redxpills 8y ago
Yeah man, I've been there before, when AA kicks in, analysis-paralysis comes. Honestly still get an AA here. But as a human being, it's normal, I think. We can only reduce the effect and to fully remove the AA is impossible.
DBsix 8y ago
Yes AA probably never goes. I do find that it becomes almost background static once you have done a few approaches on any given day. After 3 or 4 approaches it's almost completely gone, on a good day.
RPLawyer 8y ago
Read Day Bang, this book is pure gold
DayGameChirality 8y ago
There are 2 camps, one says it's gold, another says it's dumb, fake and inauthentic.
BeATrumpet 8y ago
Utilize what you like from it. I used the conversation and dating tips.
Koryphae_ 8y ago
But what if, bare with me for a moment, if you actually, every time you have an errand to run, use the map (if needed) only at home to check the location of the errand , go to the approximate location and then ask help to pin point the exact location. Do not use your phone. Then you do not come off as ingeniuine with your request. So you would be hacking your way through 1) focusing on your mission, 2) not focusing on the girl in the interaction, i.e. developing both of these skills at the same time.
And depending how awkward you feel asking help, you could establish difficulty levels for yourself, i.e. pop into a local gas station to ask directions, (instead of asking from a random person walking on the street, which could be more intimidating), ask from a male, old lady, etc.
Good post, OP.
chinobuddy 8y ago
Great advice, but (speaking from experience) that first interaction/instigation of conversation is the most brutal part. “Where is the nearest mcdonalds” is not something I’m confident in relying on.
Thoughts?
DBsix 8y ago
Thats just an example. You can say whatever you feel is safe for a start. Just any line you can say to a stranger on the street.
Do this enough times and you will begin to start conversations yourself. Vibing, push pull, negs, dhv etc. all these will come naturally. The community did not invent these things, they are observations of what works by guys like us. They eventually develop naturally in anyone who is willing to put themselves out there enough.
TheEnglishman28 8y ago
Your problem isn't even the opener. Your problem is you are focused on what you do or do not have confidence in. That shows you missed the entire point of OP.
Don't think, just approach.
Do it enough times and you will get a feel for it, no different than learning anything else out there.
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DompemKez 8y ago
Approach anxiety is the worst. I was out with some friends at a bar, saw a cute girl blatantly checking me out. All I could think of is “what do I say?” or “how do I say it?”
If you see someone you like just get the fuck up and go!
SauliusTRP 8y ago
That's too much! I can't do it! (sarcasm on)
icanseeyourpantsuu 8y ago
saving.. forgive a desktop user, dont know how to save this
Rebe1Ye11 8y ago
I still have some anxiety with talking to random women. Taking a retail job has helped that though as i associate with them often, but talking out of the work station is a bit more difficult for me.
NormalAndy 8y ago
As with anything, 90% is just turning up.
LotBuilder 8y ago
For me it has become part of who I am. I say hello and give compliments to a lot of people, not only girls I am trying to meet. My compliment to them is delivered just like the compliment I gave to the old dude with the classic car in the parking lot. It doesn’t seem awkward or like I am trying hard... because I am not trying hard. I know I can’t control the outcome so I say what I am going say and see what happens. If I compliment/approach 5 attractive women a day, I have more pussy than I can juggle.
Tilted_Towers 8y ago
So you have more pussy than you can juggle ?
Or is this just a theory
LotBuilder 8y ago
I actually do. I am not saying this to brag but things have just turned out that way. I have 2 steady plates and 2 that come in and out of town a few times a month. Only 1 Girl requires significant attention. I am always on the prowl for a new one because I like fresh blood and inevitably one of my 4 current plates will do the kind of shit that stupid hot girls in their early 20’s do. They will move on a whim, they will get a boyfriend (usually doesn’t stop them for awhile but eventually tapers off) , they will travel a lot, etc.
One of my girls appears to be getting serious with a boyfriend so I am preparing to replace her. There is a very cute 24 year old Latina that I have been trying to see for two weeks. She works retail at a store where I bought gift for a lady friend and she helped me pick it out. She asked questions about the girl I was getting the gift for, a hot younger Brazilian Girl that is my main plate. I complimented her hair, said her hair stylist was amazing, We flirted a bit and She asked how she can apply to be a lady friend that gets gifts. I playfully told her that the application process was intense and the interview was degrading, she wouldn’t want the job. She said all of that sounds really fun, where can she apply? I have had a very busy two weeks and so has she but I need to close the deal and plate her soon. We are set for tomorrow night for dinner at a nice restaurant connected to a hotel. Plan is for her to meet me in the room to bang it out, then get ready for a nice dinner then come back and bang it out again. I joked with her that I am old so I need to get the fireworks out of the way early or I might fall asleep. If the sex isn’t great for the first round I’ll scratch dinner and take off due to a “family emergency”.
Why would a cute 24 year old want to meet me at a hotel to fuck NSA even though I am 40 and overweight?
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Careful not to compliment women too much
dmi_3 8y ago
Asking where's McDonalds in 2018 when that info is 2 taps away on your smartphone...
Even if you say your phone's dead you look like an incel who can't live without mcdonalds.
DBsix 8y ago
The incel bit will be conveyed anyway regardless of the line you use. Chads can literally say, "Did you poop in your panties?" and close. It's all in the vibe and subcommunication. Lines and words don't mean shit for the most part. The advice is geared at making newbies more relaxed and give out a more attractive vibe.
shockinghillaryquote 8y ago
That's actually not a bad line..."Did you poop in your panties?" "What teheheh" ..."Oh you're on camera, this is for a show, sweetie, play along!"
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