In the world of MGTOW which includes this forum, why do former nice guys(Nice guys who eventually used red pill ways. What I mean are nice guys who eventually gave up being nice guys and started being bad boys.) and current nice guys call themselves as "nice guys" when many of them are actually athlete students(which includes the ones in elementary, high school, and college), college frat boys, punk rockers, and military men who bullied, insulted, made fun of, humiliated, and beat-up people they hated, thought of as funny stupid idiots, and thought of as weak cowards? For example, a high school athlete student who makes fun of and beats up his classmate that he thinks of as a funny stupid idiot weakling coward.
In the world of MGTOW which includes this forum, many bad boys that nice guys often call "bad boys" are actually ONLY LITERAL criminals(dangerous sociopathic career criminal men who are also loser jobless lazy deadbeat dads) but they do not call bully athlete students(which includes the ones in elementary, high school, and college), asshole college frat boys, and bully military men as "bad boys" when they also practice toxic masculinity(bullying people, insulting people, harassing people, are promiscuous, engages in orgies, cheats on their girlfriends, does drugs, only cares about themselves, etc.).
By the way, college frat boys often commit rapes. Also, punk rockers often get into fights. Also, I don't think all bully athlete students(which includes the ones in elementary, high school, and college) and all asshole college frat boys end up as loser jobless lazy deadbeat dads. A lot of them are very successful and very responsible in life.
It seems like that many nice guys of the MGTOW world(which includes this forum) are actually just bad boys who are emasculated by and are afraid of the tougher and more dangerous bad boys(LITERAL criminals such as gangsters(like Sureño gang members, Crips, Bloods, Italian Mafiosi, etc.)).