Edit: Holy fuck some of you dumbfucks keep commenting about "sooo manipulating ugghhh". Shut the fuck up this is not manipulation. If something serious happens you obviously will support your woman, I can't believe some of you are so fucking dense. If she's upset over a tv show you don't bother her because nothing good will come from trying to solve it. Obviously you can fucking talk to her about it listen to her problems. Fuck I didn't think some people here read for face value instead of thinking it through with your own thoughts and experiences. Fuck some of you need to sort yourselves out instead of projecting your shitty lives through reddit comments. Get that weak shit outta here, you're either trying to be a good man or you're a child.
TL;DR: If you catch yourself doing something to cheer her up when she's obviously unhappy with something you can't change, don't even try. Nothing good will come from it.
"But I care about her and if she's unhappy it drags the relationship down!" is what I justified to myself when making cute post it notes, surprise dates, etc. You end up hoping for the same in return (you're human and bp) because you've put so much effort into trying to make her happy, surely she sees that! Right? Hell naw man. Once you realize they think alongside a child's mind, then you can realize she won't do shit in return because you did something for her. You may not feel this way, but I figured I'll add it in the post.
However, the main reason why you shouldn't worry about her happiness is because she's not even looking for a solution! She's just unhappy and wants to stay in it, but she'll obviously say otherwise. Actions speak louder than words. For example, if she's unhappy with how she looks, she probably won't work out, but tell you all about how she's self conscious about herself and that she doesn't think she's pretty. #Shittest
As a man you see a problem in your life and you figure out how to best deal with it. The majority of effort you'll put in to "cheer her up" is for nothing. If a kid is unhappy, you'd tell them everything is okay. You don't shower them with affection, you let them know, that you're there for them.
Be worried about your happiness because ultimately, that's what matters. A calm frame will provide her with what she needs, so focus on yourself. By pushing yourself onto her by trying to help her you will come off as needy and overbearing. I think it shows that your frame is weak af if it's buckling when she's unhappy. Don't give a fuck man, it's your life. If it doesn't work out with her there's always another girl.
I'm not saying to never get her flowers or shit like that but reciprocate what she's done for you. If a girl cares about you and is into you that won't be a problem.
Check out /u/rooster-one4 comment; great analogy.
CharCanDo 5y ago
I notice that the most natural and attractive reaction to excessive and superficial emotion is stoicism and observation. Follow it down the roots of normal conversation. Know a way to “set her down softly” if you need to move on and do something else, or distract her with another matter of emotional significance one to two levels more “happy” if she tries determinedly to bring you down emotionally.
Her favorite character died on game of thrones? Yes I see you’re upset. That character was the one that was x and y, huh? You know I’ve never caught up on the new x files, I’ve always meant to.
I see women acting this way as a sort of comfort test subconsciously. “Hey, this insignificant thing has been spiking my emotions and it feels more real than you. I’m now going to compare the feelings I get from it to the ones you make me feel.”
rooster-one4 5y ago
I used to blog about being at the front lines in toxic relationship warfare, and one way I pictured it is that we're all jugglers; we juggle our own happiness, financial well-being, future endeavors, friendships, et cetera. Then the woman comes in and asks the guy to juggle her balls, maybe only one at a time to start with, because juggling is hard. eventually, and more quickly than we may realize, is that we'll soon put our balls down and juggle only hers....and we get angry. We should be angry, at ourselves, for putting our lives aside and becoming the expendable meat-sack that we've been described as.
deltaunit18 5y ago
Yes! That is such a great way to put it! I'll make an edit for people to check out your comment.
DayGameChirality 5y ago
If you only do things for people because you want them to reciprocate, I feel sorry for you.
cholomite 5y ago
Women enjoy the rollercoaster of emotions they experience, and being able to use her emotions to your advantage, especially the negative ones, is a very valuable skill. Nothing is worse than a guy who spends his days trying to even out a girls emotional state and keep her level, women are physically repulsed by it. Instead jump on the rollercoaster with her, throw your hands up at the top and enjoy the ride.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
One step further. Manufacture the roller coaster so you're not always reacting.
omega_dawg93 5y ago
in da hood, we call it, "her daily dose of drama."
women NEEEEED that shit.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
There's more to leadership than assuming the dishes are done. Make controlled opposition before she does
cholomite 5y ago
Very true. I try to keep my girls rollercoaster like splash mountain, so she's always soaking wet at the end.
44361066 5y ago
Any detailed posts about this?
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foomasters 5y ago
Could you elaborate on how one goes about manufacturing the roller coaster? Is there a guide on how to spark a range of emotions in women?
I ask because we men, usually don't do this to other men, but want to get better when dealing with women.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
Manufactured Outrage?
Pick fights you don't care about, pick them up. And put them down. Tease, put your foot down over a point you don't give a shit about. Be a pick one day, and sweet a few hours later.
Readership here should be easily. Able to be frustratingly. Stubborn, just learn to pick it up and put it down, calibrate the roller coaster
Self-honest 5y ago
This one is tough because most guys are not in control of their own emotions. They only pick it up when they are actually angry, and only put it down after they have fucked up.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
First iron rule. frame is king.
Self-honest 5y ago
Without it you're helpless
KeffirLime 5y ago
A woman's currency is attention.
If you give it when she's unhappy, she'll be incessantly unhappy, as this yields investment from you.
Withdraw attention when she's unhappy, she'll instinctively pickup that being unhappy yields nothing from you.
Save your flowers and surprise dates for when she's happy/behaving sweet, reward that behaviour.
Eventually she'll pick up what behavior patterns yield attention from you.
deltaunit18 5y ago
Yeah exactly man. It's taken me so long to actually realize this and implement into my everyday life. Beforehand worrying constantly about her only causes unneeded stress and anxiety.
chief-w 5y ago
I believe this is called operant conditioning. I use it on my dogs to teach them tricks, The Dog Wisperer on TV uses it a lot with both the people and the dogs. It's funny to watch.
CaptainJackSorrow 5y ago
You are so right. I'm going through this with my LTR right now. I bought her lunch yesterday, she wanted a hamburger. I bought her sushi. She's pouting and bringing up all kinds of other shit. If I give in and acknowledge her pouting, she's just gonna do it again and again and again.
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Nashboy45 5y ago
This is exactly what I was thinking. Don’t waste time on people like that and eventually they will learn in their own being single that no one wants to date a fucking child. It’s ok to need help because everyone does, but it’s not ok to whine and wallow in your problem. If she has an issue, you help her with solutions or support or whatever you think is appropriate and if she isn’t progressing to have the problem solved or (if the problem isn’t solvable) isn’t processing into better coping with it then she wants to suffer for whatever reason and there isn’t a reason to stick with her. This doesn’t just apply to women but anyone. If they aren’t acting to overcome, then why should you? But at the same time, if you care about the person, then care. Don’t pretend you don’t because some people on the internet say you should. Be yourself unapologetically man. That’s literally what trp is about.
Andorli 5y ago
Yeah but 70 neckbeards upvoted comment that literally says treat people like dogs and then they wonder why TRP gets so much hate. It is because instead of promoting actual masculine values it started promoting cheap shit on how neets and losers can get laid.
Edit: comment instead of post.
DancesWithPugs 5y ago
"literally says treat people like dogs"
Where? Quote it or kindly apologize for making shit up.
I suppose no one ever trained you with positive and negative reinforcement? How did you learn to type bullshit on the internet then?
Ah yes, the dreaded "be appreciative for kindness and withdraw attention from shitty behavior." What exactly would you have us do? Do you not give any feedback? Being completely passive might count as ignoring so watch out!
ozaku7 5y ago
Neckbears upvoting each other basically. Never underestimate the power of stupid, especially in large groups.
Omnibrad 5y ago
How often are women sad for actual valid reasons? Hint: rarely.
How often will “just be there” accomplish anything of value? Hint: never.
Andorli 5y ago
What are you basing this statement on? Any evidence? Any science? Any independent research with respectable pool size? This is what I am talking about when I say TRP has become home for neckbeards and losers who talk out of their ass. You just make a very wide and generalized assumption based on tiny, watered down amount of information you read on trp (i doubt you actually read sidebar) and maybe a bit of evolutionary psychology.
But I can show you research that proves (Jesus Christ can't believe that I actually have to say this) that being there for anybody regardless of gender in time of need and not necessarily helping them but just letting them know that you are there will have tremendous positive effect on their well being and help them cope better with whatever the fuck they are going through. A simple example is, if your woman is sad the presence of masculine strong frame will instill comfort in her and ease the situation.
Omnibrad 5y ago
“Just being there” isn’t frame. Is your woman sad she lost her job? That’s a valid reason to be sad. So fuck her and help her update her resume. That is frame.
“Just be there” is a retarded platitude.
Bent6789 5y ago
One of the central parts of being a man in control of their shit is to be a "rock". Impervious to the world and strong in the face of adversity.
"Just be there" is an extension of this and to be a point of strength, comfort and resilience is a desirable trait to woman.
Frame is being unaffected by anyone else's actions and moods. Be a rock and you have frame.
Omnibrad 5y ago
“Just be there” is also what the blue pill world tells men when their woman is sad because Becky started calling her mean names at the water cooler.
Telling her to shut up about things that don’t matter is frame. Whether you want to be an emotional tampon for stupid shit is your decision, but let’s not pretend you’re a rock unaffected by your girl’s sad mood. “Just be there” when she is sad is exactly being affected by her mood.
Andorli 5y ago
I though it was fucking obvious that if you are able and willing to help you should do so if that is what you want and she is worth it. But let's say someone from close family has died, then unless you can resurrect people there is nothing else you can do besides "being there". I thought this is obvious shit that doesn't need to be broken down further.
Edit: and if you think that just being there isn't frame then you have no fucking idea what frame is. When my grandfather walked into the room I swear the entire dynamic of room changed from him "just being there".
Omnibrad 5y ago
“Mourn” is an action verb. It is an active process. You aren’t just being there in a passive way. You are mourning.
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Self-honest 5y ago
It's so simple, yet so many guys have been programmed to do the opposite. It sucks when you see people you're close to who just WON'T get it. It's so easy and basically common sense. And works like a fucking charm.
ApexmanRP 5y ago
This.
My LTR threw a fit the other day because I had arranged a lads weekend away (amongst other things heh)
So, I ignored her did something in the kitchen and literally 1 minute later she was all smiles and kissing me. Job done. We laughed.. and then fucked.
DancesWithPugs 5y ago
This is a crucial thing to remember and what I needed to read today, thank you. Well said.
doyouevenvape420 5y ago
They don't want solutions or reassurances man. They just want to watch the world burn.
JensenMse 5y ago
Honestly, while reading this, only one article kept crawling into my mind: 16 commandments of poon. It's not a guideline to everything you need to do to have the best LTR in the world, but following it simply means you're out for your own happiness and thereby reinforcing your strength.
She's just a little girl, she wants you to be the immovable rock that she needs for support. If you're swayed aside from your true core just coz "she's unhappy and it makes me miserable, hence I need to make things right" then you're not coming from the right angle. Thing is if you really are in your core, you will truly know when either she's just hamstering around or she really genuinely needs your help.
My father used to say to me "You are the most important element in your universe." You are you for you, keep your own happiness and she will find ways to maintain your happiness despite her unhappiness.
WhiteGhosts 5y ago
She aint a fucking robot man. Sure dont be her pet but as a partner it wouldnt be too bad to help her out of a bad situation. She wont forget.
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trp_throwaway_88 5y ago
"Looking at women as humans" and "care about other human's happiness" is how a lot of us ended up here. You can pump out whatever nice-sounding truisms you want, the shit does not work unless you are already naturally one of the top few percent of men with the looks, the charm, the money and the confidence -- and if you are one of those men, you're still hurting your chances, just not to a noticeable point because your raw talent is carrying you.
Women are women and men are men. Civilized societies have known this since time immemorial. They each require different approaches to achieve the same outcome.
ozaku7 5y ago
Unhappiness comes from a lack of something, a need for something, and that cannot be substituted with something else. In most cases of unhappiness, it's just about letting time pass, finding distractions, or devalue the source of unhappiness to the point where you stop caring. The only thing you can do for a woman is to just listen to her and be there for her, but definitely don't invest your time in trying to solve her problem.
Go somewhere out, take her with you and try to make her forget about it.
I noticed it with one of my ex girlfriends. When she's unhappy, there is no helping her, best remedy was just to let time pass. At the same time she was always pissed that I stopped caring about her unhappiness and just went my own way while ignoring it. They can't distract themselves, distract her instead with something you both like to do and she will eventually forget. Take her on a walk, watch a series, go work out together, whatever suits you.
That way you do something you like, while distracting her from her shit.
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BydandMathias 5y ago
Yeah, I recently experienced a situation where a girl got a call that her mother had nearly died from bloodloss from an medical malfunction. No amount of trp shit could have prepared me for that. All I could do was just listen. I detached all my emotions and just became an understanding rock. Same girl fell off a roof and broke a leg a 2 weeks earlier and then fell on it a week later. I understand AWALT, but you can't help feel sympathy for an unlucky individual.
zyqkvx 5y ago
>\~\~Actions speak louder than words\~\~
Actions speak, words lie
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bobaisdope 5y ago
Women don't want to be happy. They want to be miserable. They want to feel upset. They want to feel empowerment. They want to feel inspired. They want to be jealous. They want to be [insert any fucking emotion you know]. Women only want a full ride of different emotions.
Skywave28 5y ago
Don't confuse a girl and a woman. Girls act like children and don't have very much emotional control. A woman can talk to you straight up. Just because they're female, doesn't mean they're all children. Current social constructs make it difficult for girls to become women, having them focus on receiving a diamond ring as a wedding gift rather than focus on the actual union, which does not require the two to be wed.
help757575 5y ago
Good points as well, and I just want to say I was this dude to the EXTREME. I was married now divorced, and I can't let go of my ex...aka HARDCORE oneitus because she is the mother of my kids, and I will not have more kids my stuff is broken. I remember when we first started dating she showered me with attention, well two kids later, both completing our undergrads and maters degrees according to her we grew apart, and she was done. There was no communicating about what was wrong, what could be attempted to fix the situation even with two kids involved, she was just done cold heartedly done. Showed ZERO emotion about the whole not a single tear shed, except one time during a fight I whispered to her, "you know it's a good thing you do crossfit and stay in shape and have fake tits, because the only thing you really can offer a man outside of a good paycheck is your body, and now that you hit 40 even that will fade fast". I don't cuss when I'm pissed because I want to make sure my point is made. We've been divorce about a year now, and she could give zero fucks about how all this impacted the family, her happiness of what she wanted was paramount about all else, even the kids.
What was stated I can do what you said above with such ease because I literally could careless, if a woman doesn't want to date me I truly see it as her loss in life. Man any tips on getting over ex-wife that is the mother of children oneitus though would be greatly appreciated because that feeling is worse then anything. It's like with her I drop back into blue pill mode instantly.
Reaper1967 5y ago
GFTOW, and do your homework in here. Don’t fuck around, because your kids’ well being depends on it.
help757575 5y ago
lol....I'm on number 12.....and honestly in a way it makes me red pill rage because I feel like I've screwed the same person with 12 different bodies because women truly have a hive mindset. Which helps with me handling these women because I truly don't care, but at the same time I actually miss caring.
deltaunit18 5y ago
Check out Noah Elkrief, some of his videos are great to help through this sort of thing. I would watch his videos with a coke and rum or take a toke to let go and listen, I find it helps when you're stressed to the max.
Also check out Jordan Peterson.
help757575 5y ago
I do like Jordan Peterson a lot, but never heard of Noah Elkief I'll look him up for sure. I've consumed all Richard Cooper, and Rational Male content, and to a certain extent I just get more pissed off.
Mattyice2857 5y ago
I read in the book models. Try to only go out with women that are a Fuck yes about you. If a girl is not that excited to see you or hangout with you chances are you won’t be happy with that girl anywayz. Plenty of fish in the sea.
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I have to worry about her happiness over mine because I’m married to her, and we have two children I have sired. Yep, I’m fucked. Who gives a shit if I’m happy? A 9mm slug to my right temple would go a long way to solving my problems.
Passthepogs 5y ago
No good deed goes unpunished.
studentsensei 5y ago
This post is both right and wrong.
First off if you haven't ever cohabitated with someone that you're dating then you will never understand. I don't care if you see your LTR 6 days out of the week because at the end of the day you both sleep in separate places. Being around anyone day in and day out and putting up with their various mood swings can be both taxing and challenging. Men and women both do this.
Secondly for those who do understand, there's a nuance to all of this.
If you know that your own happiness is internally driven, then why is it that most people default to attempting to make other people happy through external means?
Because if you're an empathetic human being who deeply cares about someone you try, but you have to understand when you need to back off and let the other person figure it out for themselves.
Most people over invest, and many don't invest enough.
Imagine living with someone that over invests (constantly dumps all their problems on you and wants to solve all of your problems for you) wouldn't that get annoying? That's what most men do. They want to solve all of your problems all of the time even when no one asked for their input.
On the other hand most women love to dump their issues at your feet and just stare at you afterwards, waiting for you to do something. If you walk away they'll get angry, if you jump on it they will complain.
You should ask first. "Are you asking for my advice or are you just ranting?"
That's it. None of that passive-aggressive BS that you will inevitably bring up later ("But I've tried so hard/done so much for you !!) Well were you asked to? Or did you just assume?
Someone posted a juggling analogy comment. Who asked you to juggle her problems? Last I checked women were adults just like you. They are capable.
When I was with my ex I had moments when I used to get upset because I thought I was placed in several no-win situations. If I helped her it wouldn't be because I wanted to, but because I didn't want her to hate me and deal with her mouth (this is when the cohabitation issues comes in) and if I didn't help then I'd be a huge asshole.
Eventually though I learned to just let it go. Men wanting to control their S/O's happiness are no different then men that think they can intimidate their LTR into submission. You do not possess that kind of power.
Get over yourself.
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Thotwrecker 5y ago
I am surprised that this is controversial. "But but it's not sustainable for LTRs"... of course it fucking is. It's MORE important in a LTR. This is someone you love supposedly, you LTR'd them after all - push them to grow, push them to become better, don't push them to be happy. Happy women create problems and self-sabotage.
Invested women - aka women who's challenges have been properly aligned with their capabilities - grow and improve their ability to be good partners. You have to let her solve problems and deal with shit on her own, you have to push her to do shit by leading by example. Get super fit, make it clear you get crazy female attention, set the expectation that you two are going to be "that" super fit sexy couple, and she'll get on board. She'll bitch and moan like a fat kid who's parents make him to soccer. But she'll adapt.
Women can ALWAYS adapt, they are way better at adaption than you or I. She will be fine. She can deal.
They aren't meant to be happy. Happy is worthless, happy is something women can never achieve, because happiness is internal. Women source their emotions externally - whatever is around her will make her that.
So as long as you are happy, and she is challenged and invested, she will enjoy the rollercoaster of being unhappy once in a while, and consequently also be happy once in a while. And when she IS happy, it'll be powerful.
If this seems too harsh to you, you don't understand women at all. They aren't guys, if you could make them happy by listening to their stupid fucking problems and buying them a mom Lexus and being a good present father and giving them a upper-middle class life, then America would have a 10% divorce rate max. Beta guys would be getting mad laid.
Women do not want to be made happy - they want to make you happy, and then feel happy through osmosis as a byproduct of your happiness. All you can do is be centered, be happy yourself, be fulfilled, be unshakably content in your own skin. She will become happy when she is ready to be - if she's not happy yet, she's still working of neurotic chick ju-ju and needs to be allowed to do so - when she's done, she'll look all sheepish and cute, like "yah uh I guess I was a little hangry" like she's a little girl who just threw a tantrum.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
Oh god yes. how the fuck do you think guys end up in dead bedrooms? they think they are responsable for their partners emotional state.
Take away her tingles and her chase, and you've overloaded beta behaviours dry her the fuck out, and she will resent you for it.
Even my main event, when she saw that acting like a harpy cunt drove me straight into a set of french chicks in the hot tub, what did she do with all that anger?
Made me breakfast.
the-dan-man 5y ago
This depends if you are talking about a relationship or not. This is terrible advice if you are. It is times like this when i read shit on the internet and i know 100% without doubt that i would be better off not reading it. Anyone ever get that? I mean too much information is a bad thing.
So instead of worrying about another persons happiness you are worrying to not worry about her happiness? It is pointless and a waste of time, i am sorry. Just get on with it. Stop overthinking stuff like this.
And if this is aimed at relationships. Then good luck it lasting if you never care about her moods and emotions. It is one thing to remain detached from her desires and wants etc, and keep frame, but entirely another to not care about her and her happiness and be a constant robot. That is toxic. And it also sounds really fucking boring.
There is nothign wrong, in fact it is more often positive than not, to make an occasional romantic gesture. Because it makes your life more fun, makes hers more interesting and spontaneous. Spontaneity is a great thing, dont supress it. Especially acts of generosity. Stop killing positive virtues guys. I read stuff on this subreddit sometimes and i get the sense people are indoctrinating themselves. I know it is about calibration. But please dont kill positive virtues. Nurture them. Otherwise you are gonna grow up to be one dull and boring motherfucker. Less people like that please.
Psychoptic 5y ago
I find that overthought stuff about emotions on here, such as this, is best utilized by reading and then letting it sit and disperse for a while without applying it. If there are any core truths that apply to you, they will integrate into the back of your mind over time. If you go out and try to apply immediately you'll overthink it, probably fail, and junk the whole concept.
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the-dan-man 5y ago
I agree with all of that. And i never expressed otherwise, i do not think. No, i am not married, nor in a relationship.
I have never had problems with controlling my feelings with any woman. In fact, most times, when things have fallen apart, is because i was too distant and cold and uncaring.
I think th emain point i was trying to make is that, if you get to a point in life where you have to wrorry about not worrying about what your fucking girlriend is worrying. Then you are in a bad place.
Dont fuckign worry about it. Yes. But explicably avoiding being genrous or doing somehting spontanoues to increase the quality of her life, is a very bad thing. There is nothing wrong with that, if it is genuine.
If you are doign it because you are trying to manipulate her or because you are actually trying to 'gain' something from doing so, then yeah dont do it. Do it because it is genuine and you care about her. If you need to go off into all these abstract notions about 'but will she think im being needy' and all that shit, you have already lost.
What happened to being fun, spontatneous and genuine and actually giving a shit about a girl? What has happened here? For fucks sake people.
Sorry about the spelling i wrote this quickly.
deltaunit18 5y ago
I said to watch your own life man, get off your soap box.
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UselessBrakes 5y ago
Im sorry to say this, but acting like an anti-social autist will not help you achieve anything. I suspect this advice wasnt actually thought through, but is some kind of emotional backlash or something.
You write that women "wont do shit" for you. I think you should have higher expectations and also follow your own advice and think about your own well being. If you have a girlfriend like that "wont do shit" for you, you should definately think of your own well being and dump her.
About the advice given in the main post. If someone is really, truly down, it is actually not nice to try and "make them" cheer up. It is not the right time for gifts or surprise dates, especially if these things come with the expectation that she MUST cheer up.
The nice thing to do for someone who is truly down, is to really listen. Then find out what the problem really is and offer understanding and emotional support.
How much time is required depends on how serious the problem is. It IS ok to tell someone to pull themselves together if their emotions dont match the magnitude of the problem at all. But if you just act like a bloc of ice and misinterpret and shrug off the problem as unimportant right away, then you are just being an asshole. Dont expect quick, material solutions or simply saying "its ok", to work. It will only add to her problem because now you have made it clear that 1) you give a shit about how she feels or 2) are completely unable to understand her. Both are good reasons to dump a guy in my opinion.
Also, concider this. Who are you REALLY doing these supposedly "nice" things for? Did you actually have her well being in mind, or did you just do things because YOU wanted to MAKE her respond a certain way? If you do things only because you expect something specific in return, then you are not actually being kind, and she will notice. If you just do those things in order to "guilt" a woman into stop trying to talk to you about her problems, then you are not nice. You are actually being extremely egoistic. She will probably get even more frustrated, and the next time she has a problem and you ask her about it, she will remember this and just say "its nothing", even if it is clearly not.
I hope that this advice can be useful to someone.
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Prophets_Prey 5y ago
As Black Phillip said, "a happy woman is a miserable man, a happy man is a happy relationship"
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darknessbemyfriend 5y ago
The downvotes will be because you think woman are inferior and that when people get raped it’s their own fault.
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deltaunit18 5y ago
That was pretty intense but makes sense. Choose your sacrifices that'll benefit you in the long run, not to help someone that'll take advantage of you long run. Survival of the fittest.
curtainrodman 5y ago
I love this comment. I’m gonna guess the last stanza is what triggered downvotes.
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You should never assume responsibility for someone else's emotions or happiness, unless you actually did something wrong to cause offended feelings. If you assume responsibility for someone else's happiness and/or emotions, you are co-dependent.
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The best way to calm an emotionally distressed woman is to make fun of her problems. If this fails, withdraw attention and let time calm her down.
PR0JECT_XIII 5y ago
If you have the chance, "The Way Of The Superior Man" covers this quite well.
I'll do my best to elaborate. A womans emotions are like waves, they will change like the tides, upset, happy, horny, excited, nervous, anxious etc etc. The approach is not to solve the problem and be at her beacon call. Instead, distract her from the current emotional wave and try draw her into a new one with actions, not words.
Edit: I have probably done a hatchet job elaborating, but I know you get the gist. She doesn't want to hear "babe, are you ok?" She wants action.
She already has friends to talk to about her problems.
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deltaunit18 5y ago
LOL this is to make your life happy. This post is not about picking up chick you fuck.
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deltaunit18 5y ago
Alright, explain to me how this is manipulative. If she's upset about losing her job, someone died, etc. obviously you are going to support her. But my context is that if it is something stupid and doesn't mean shit, just keep to yourself because it is only negative energy. I swear people like you read stuff on here and are so ready to scream passive aggressive comments to prop yourselves up (like a chick).
Your post history confirms my suspicions too.
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wanabrancher 5y ago
Who shares a Reddit account with their SO? I'm sure your boyfriend loves that!
TheRedPike 5y ago
Wtf?
I'd ban you if I had any idea what you were trying to say.
DancesWithPugs 5y ago
Down here on earth we have to compromise and set boundaries when people act shitty. I'm so happy that you're absolutely perfect for one another, never quarrel, and never ever attempt to change eachother's behavior. *snicker*
Any reprimand or withdrawal whatsoever is the action of a mean little manipulative tiny man chauvanist teensy weensy sad dumdum oppressor!!!
ANYTHING GOES! is the rule at the Burrito household? Which one is the Captain?
Can I come visit and repaint all your furniture? /s Who are you to tell me no? How dare you reinforce boundaries with a negative consequence? Ok can I tear out your flowerbed or would you "train me like a dog" that violating your boundaries is unacceptable? I truly hope you can grasp this point, that not everyone is nice and they need to be told no.
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Self-honest 5y ago
His point is that you let people be sad if they want to because they aren't going to appreciate your effort either way. The best thing you can do is to make sure you're happy and healthy to be there for your SO if you are needed. Having a partner that is happy and there for you makes you feel way better than some flowers and other attempts to cheer you up. Your own happiness and steady life is infectious. It will surely overcome any non life changing event or sadness better than showering someone with affection. Upset people will resent you for trying to diminish their feelings by trying to use gifts and gestures to pull them out of their funk for your own benefit. Just being happy yourself is the best thing you can do for your partner.
Don't announce that you're a woman. It gives you no extra clout to comment here. We have rules against that kind of manipulative announcement. As if you're better suited to comment because of your special woman parts.
VillagersUnite 5y ago
I strictly recall this sub saying women are children basically. So treat them as such. I used to want to be "in touch with emotions with women", now I don't care. My ex used to bitch and moan about why people don't find her attractive and how fat she was. I would give in and tell her she was wrong and that I love her. That was a mistake on my part. My validation didn't matter and when I realize that now, I realize that I should've left her ass a long time ago. Women love being miserable because it gets easy validation and easy attention from people I think.