Hey there,
just something that came to my mind: I can't emphasize enough how important it is to be aware of your subconscious and how it works. If you watch a television ad for example you might think it doesn't influence you, but it does, in several ways actually, and it's proven that you are more likely to end up buying the product even if you think that commercial was shit. It's how our subconscious works. Now that being said, this isn't exclusive to commercials but to everything we do, especially when idling, such as: Listening to music, watching videos on YouTube, or just browsing the internet / looking for a TV program / reading, whatever.
Choose carefully: WHAT music do you listen to? I've found myself listening to lots of crappy music without any message whatsoever and / or a bad vibe / wrong message such as treating women like gods or being an asshole to other people. You might not believe it but just you listening to stuff like this will make it more likely that you actually behave like that. So don't. Listen to songs with a positive message or vibe, at least when idling, feed your subconscious with positivity instead of negativity. Feed it with strength instead of weakness. It's a mostly overlooked part of our brain that does have a deep influence in how we act and even the quality of our lives. I firmly believe in that.
Stop watching TV and especially ads completely. Get an adblocker and remove ads from your life. You don't need them. If you really have to watch TV, watch a documentary or something useful for an hour or two at most. Same goes for YouTube. Don't watch the news and if you do, question everything. They want you to think a certain way. Don't watch movies without questioning said movies, don't watch movies or TV series when idling. They will program you as well.
The key to "unplugging" is to do everything you do consciously. To think for yourself first and foremost. That's why most of us are here in the first place. We thought about the things ourselves and didn't believe the programming like most women and sadly many men do too nowadays.
This is all very basic stuff but I still see people around here and other "woke" subs such as NoFap unaware of this. Just wanted to put this out here and remind you all. Don't even give that blue pill a chance. Peace out.
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MrMelbourne 5y ago
To understand yourself and your programming, first you must critically look at your parents. Who they are, what they are, how they were programmed and how they programmed YOU!
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Frenetic_Zetetic 5y ago
"Your subconscious mind accepts what is impressed upon it or what you consciously believe. It does not reason things out as your conscious mind does, and it does not argue with you controversially. Your subconscious mind is like a bed of soil that accepts any kind of seed, good or bad. Your thoughts are active; they are the seeds. Negative, destructive thoughts continue to work negatively in your subconscious mind. Sooner or later, it will emerge and take shape as an outer experience that corresponds to theiir content.
Remember; your subconscious mind does not engage in proving whether your thoughts are good or bad, true or false. It responds according to the nature of your thoughts or suggestions. For example, if you consciously believe something to be true, even though it may be false, your subconscious mind will accept it as true and proceed to bring about results that must necessarily follow BECAUSE you consciously assumed it to be true." -Joseph D. Murphy, The Power of Your Subconscious Mind, pg 16-17.
beetwotks 5y ago
Priming is a powerful tool. Use it for your benefit, or the world will use it for its own.
SPREAD_THE_LOVE_7791 5y ago
How are you supposed to stay up to date with current events if you don't read the news? A person who has no idea what's going on in the world is an idiot in my book.
imbeciI 5y ago
I dont follow the news channel. I rather use social media to read people questioning and criticizing the news.
AshyLarry27 5y ago
Books like
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are VERY insightful and wake you up to a lot of how and why people do what they do.
LouElmo 5y ago
Your views on the subconscious and it’s power will be validated.
RedKingRising 5y ago
I make ads for a living so....
Zenwarz 5y ago
Same here bro. Mostly social
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BurningOrangeHeaven 5y ago
I've always thought ads are only effective on weak minded people. What do you think about that?
dza76wutang 5y ago
Availability and recency heuristic are no joke.
The line between persuasion and instilling awareness can be blurry at times. Awareness is very powerful in a time when many markets are easy to enter. This is a major reason why consulting firms pump out free white papers. It's a lot more than just drink Coke = happy, quite a bit is more of "I am thirsty...i am now in the market for a drink...i recall Coke makes drinks...i'll get a Coke (from the myriad options)".
Not weak-mindedness as much as processing gaziggabits of information efficiently.
killabeesindafront 5y ago
You underestimate the power of the subconscious
Do-it-for-you 5y ago
Think about it this way.
One day you want to buy hair gel, but you’ve never bought one before.
You see two versions of hair gel for the same price, one unknown brand you’ve never heard of, and the other you’ve heard 1000 times on TV or on movies.
99% of the time you’re going to pick the one you’ve heard 1000 times, because it’s more familiar to you and it’s a “safer” option. Regardless of how much you believe it doesn’t effect you.
BurningOrangeHeaven 5y ago
Yeah if its equally priced i would agree for a first purchase scenario.
RedKingRising 5y ago
How many things do you own that you've never seen an ad for? How many do you own that you have seen an ad for? How many have cheaper or generic versions? Why didn't you buy those?
phoenix335 5y ago
That's what they want you to believe.
Susceptibility to ads may be linked to emotional susceptibility, but I wouldn't be so sure about that. They have a century of research behind it now, with thousands highly intelligent psychology PhDs spending all their lives to create the perfect influence on the masses.
Maybe everyone has a different level of susceptibility, but no one is really safe.
Seriously, why do companies spend millions for a short commercial during Superbowl?
And remember the media people that market products aren't even the worst. The media people that market politics are way worse, and they have the same level of sophistication behind that.
Once you have developed even a tiny bit of a conservative or men's rights opinion, the media manipulation will suddenly feel like they're screaming in your face for daring to.
wmat213 5y ago
> Once you have developed even a tiny bit of a conservative or men's rights opinion, the media manipulation will suddenly feel like they're screaming in your face for daring to.
Absolutely agree with that one. One reason I can't stand watching the news is that it feels like they don't want me there. They'd rather have me gone. It's just provocation and blatantly absurd propaganda.
BurningOrangeHeaven 5y ago
I mean i use ad block, and if im watching a video on Facebook i just close it once an ad starts anyway.
But for other stuff like - lets say tylenol or detergent - I've never found myself just buying Tide because i have laundry to do and dont know what to use. Generic medicines have the same shit in them and i usually go with the much cheaper generics.
Maybe since I'm not big on shopping in the first place? I do agree ads work in general but my time in retail showed me the average person is pretty dumb so its to be expected.
wmat213 5y ago
This has nothing to do with intelligence. It works for everyone because everyone has a subconsciousness. Some might be more susceptible to these ads but no one is immune from them. Thinking you are is foolish and actually more of a sign of low IQ than believing the commercials is. Because it's not about BELIEVING them-it's about taking them in, into your subconscious mind, then spewing them out when you go shopping, because that's essentially what your subconscious does whether you like it or not. There are some things that work like automatic processes-sure, you still have your free will, but if you are being contaminated by ads and suchlike 24/7 your perception of things changes.
wmat213 5y ago
Something that also comes to my mind when thinking about unplugging is unplugging from what the general population perceives to be as "true" or "science" ... so many people think that everything we think to "know" nowadays is ultimately true, and any theories that came before the theories of modern blue-pilled leftist scientists are wrong. Ejaculation and masturbation is healthy, porn as well, men are the horny gender, women are just as intelligent and physically strong as men, money is the key to happiness, races don't exist, religion makes you a worse person, women are gods and shall be treated like that etc. ... all these things are being promoted in nowadays society, but are generally false. Read books that are at least 40-50 years old, better even if they are a hundred of a few hundred years old. From famous psychologists like Freud to philosophers such as Schopenhauer, Kant, Nietzsche, or even Sun Tzu and Socrates. It will open your mind, and unplug you from the Zeitgeist.
ThinkGrowProsper 5y ago
Have you ever read Spinoza’s work?
wmat213 5y ago
Nope. Never heard of Spinoza. What did he write about?
hotpeanuts 5y ago
https://m.imgur.com/gallery/izp0tqf
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Everything you said here is literally what the west has been feeding society and is now doing through globalisation to the rest of the world.
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JamesSkepp 5y ago
You're brainwashed and should unplug yourself from the alt-right, alternative-media and probably TRP too (at least in it's non- m-f part).
First of all, science DOES know a shitload more about almost everything than we did 40-50 years ago. Most of the things science knows know is true b/c it's supported by evidence we gathered. Your typical antiliberal dogmatism from Molyneux, Crowder or Bereitbar lacks 3 things: context (masturbation is good - yes it is, b/c apparently ejaculations prevent prostate cancer; masturbation is bad - yes it its, b/c ejaculation lowers T levels), understanding of what marketing is (nobody is going to bother writing 100-thousandth article confirming global warming, but hey - here's some misconstrued quotemining about how apparently scientists changed the data) and understanding of intention (MSM will push in favour of global warming, alt-media will push against it - and none of them really cares about what science says, it's all about narrative pushing).
The authors you mentioned have NOTHING to do with actual hard science you wrote above. They are philosophers, thinkers, psychologists, some of them base their books on PURELY esoteric and parapsychological concepts. I'm not saying don't read them. I'm saying don't treat them as a source of ANY scientific knowledge.
BTW: out of 3 parts of the Zeitgeist, all 3 have been debunked.
wmat213 5y ago
Hello,
I'm not watching Molyneux and think he's wrong on lots of stuff, even though he's right about single moms.
I am not subscribed to Steven Crowder and find him to be dishonest in his debates. He does not represent my opinion.
Who is Bereitbar?
Ejaculation goes way deeper than that. It's "good" because it apparently prevents prostata cancer (which is debatable) it's not just "bad" because it only lowers testosterone, it does way more than that. Too many ejaculations in a short period of time are the cause for nervous diseases, the skinnyfat bodytype + kind of meth-addict look most nerds have, and autistic / weird behaviour through the guilt that masturbation induces (assuming these nerds aren't just having sex with actual women 24/7, then that guilt aspect would vanish of course)
I would rather treat them (great philosophers) as the source of my knowledge than professors and "scientists" (leftist blue pillers) pushing their own agenda.
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
Completely agree.
For the sake of dissent, let me question some stuff.
I assert that it is better to stop using the term "leftist" in statements such as this. A needless and useless term. Left vs right is bullshit.
I too am sceptical of "races don't exist", but am also sceptical of any claims of races being distinguishable. I find such talk sinister.
wmat213 5y ago
Hello,
The term "leftist" or "left" frames the group of people I'm talking about pretty well. Certainly better than the term "socialist" or "liberal" would. (I'm a socialist as well, but nowhere near the left)
Why though?
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
I thought that the only reliable marker of what is left wing as opposed to the centre and the right wing was the left's anti-capitalism. I'm aware of average people using "the left" and "the right" more broadly. In that case, I find it not acceptable to perpetuate that definition as it promotes divisive rhetoric. With one wing bashing the other. One interesting thing: How are you a socialist but nowhere near the left?
The problematic aspect for me is the extrapolation of the present circumstances of identifiable racial groups (as vague as they are) to the juxtaposition of the perceived stereotypical characteristics of that collective group as also characteristic of a random individual deemed to be a part of that collective. Other than that, factual differences should be acknowledged if verified.
wmat213 5y ago
Then our views on what's left and what's right differentiate, that's all. The left is, as I see it, the modern blue pill matrix political opinion, at least in most first world countries. If you're not left wing, you're out. Left wing subculltures dominate and have been dominating the entertainment industry, Hollywood, the music industry, the education system and even politics, which has just begun to change very recently with the right wing parties in Europe gaining popularity for example. (And even those parties are much better described as right to center than right wing extremists)
Left wingers believe that multiculturalism is the only way, there is only one race and it's called the human race, there is no culture better or richer in history than other cultures, white people are bad and racist and started slavery / owe anything to the darker races, there are no differences between the races (but at the same time they are pro affirmative action which puts white, hispanic and especially asian people at a disadvantage because they quietly believe black people are too stupid to make it themselves so they need programs which lower the standards exclusively for them, also "white" (European) people are exclusively evil, lol) they believe an unborn child is no life and can be terminated, 3, 5, 12, 72 genders or more exist, a guy who cuts off his penis and is mentally ill is automatically a woman, not calling mentioned man a woman is a crime to them, smoking weed and taking drugs is like totally fine cause like, muh freedom n shit, but refusing to bake a cake for a gay wedding should be a felony.
So all in all, if you are guilty of believing two or more of these blue pill lies, you're on the left. It's quite commonly understood that definitions like left or right can vary, but it's also quite commonly understood that these views are commonly associated with the left. Just like they associate the right with swastika flag swinging Nazis that want to let black people starve. Only difference is that the the actual far right is a fringe group on 4chan and YouTube which is fairly small and almost never believes in what the left wing thinks they believe in, while the actual far left and far left believes are out there in Hollywood and everywhere in the real world, destroying the west, and they are just as bad as I mentioned, if not worse. Tl;dr: The left is dominant in culture, the right is not. Just as the Blue Pill is dominant to the Red Pill in sheer mass / numbers.
The vast majority of teachers are left-wing.
The vast majority of "scientists" are left wing as well, especially the so called "social scientists".
Truth knows no bias, no political belief, it's just itself. The blue pill is, in nowadays culture, mostly left leaning. Red Pillers and even PUA are being described as Neo-Nazis and far right movements by some media outlets despite having perfectly normal, almost mid to center kind of beliefs.
Leave me alone with your juxtaposition (what the fuck is that even, a Pokémon or something?) and get to the point. You're an individualist, I get it. That doesn't mean races don't exist and that people from a certain race can't GENERALLY behave a certain way. Even in the most individualistic society you'll get groups that behave a certain way based on certain characteristics, one of them being race. The fairy tale of the individual is just that, a fairy tale. We're all part of groups, more or less, even though it might disturb your worldview. Doesn't mean you can't be different from a certain group (e.g. a east asian individual commiting crimes) but it won't change the reality that in general east asians rarely commit any crimes.
There are factual differences. 85\% of black americans vote democrat. The vast majority of rich blacks still vote democrat, opposed to rich whites. There are racial differences in every aspect of our lives, from education to crime rates to what we eat and even how we socialize. Race is real.
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
I agree with your criticism of "the left". I guess this is the most common definition now. I will just call it modern (social) liberalism. You left one question unanswered. Are you socialist? If so, what kind?
I misused that word perhaps.
Let's talk about race. It is reasonable to say that there exist differences between racial groups and certain races can generally act similarly. I am not uncomfortable with facts like certain races having lower IQs overall. Those are scientific facts that should be accepted. My question is: Of what use are those facts? Okay, Arabs have lower IQs, say, and blacks vote left more. What to do with that information? The answer should not be treating a race as superior or inferior. Or discrimination. That's all.
wmat213 5y ago
> Let's talk about race. It is reasonable to say that there exist differences between racial groups and certain races can generally act similarly. I am not uncomfortable with facts like certain races having lower IQs overall. Those are scientific facts that should be accepted. My question is: Of what use are those facts? Okay, Arabs have lower IQs, say, and blacks vote left more. What to do with that information? The answer should not be treating a race as superior or inferior. Or discrimination. That's all.
It's great that thus far we agree at least on the reality of race. Many people are too blue pilled to even acknowledge biological facts nowadays, so thank you for your honesty. Also thank you for using your brain. Both rare traits nowadays.
Other than that: These facts are very useful for politics and your everyday life alike.
If you want a better future for your children (like me) and you acknowledge the big IQ (not to mention cultural) differences between the races, you might want to think twice about letting 2 million "refugees" in, as Germany did a few years ago. Maybe returning to the old status quo (100-200 years back) when foreigners were not existing in Europe might not be that bad of an idea? And by that I don't mean removing every foreigner that lives in Europe (except for the parasites of the recent manufactured crisis maybe) but just closing the borders, doing it like Japan, would be enough. They are 99% homogenous and you can still go there to travel, you can still live and work there if you're qualified and you really want to. They won't make it easy for you like they do in Europe, that's all.
Believing in the differences of races (which aren't solely based on IQ and culture, but go even further, even behaviour is different and some races are naturally more / less aggressive than others) makes 2 million africans comming to your developed first world country sound like a bad idea, because it is a bad idea.
If you take into account the higher birth rates of these low IQ and mostly uncultured people, you'll quickly begin to see the problem: They'll breed away the better culture and more intelligent races (better genetic material) and therefore destroy their civilisations + slow the progress of humanity immensely and last but not least make an entire race disappear.
Now, in your everyday life, everyone has biases. Some might admit to them, others won't because of fear of being called a racist or whatever, but everyone has them. One of these "biases" is to notice the difference of genders and general behaviour. There are 3 women on the street and it's night time. Are you afraid? Of course not. Now reverse their gender and you'll see how it suddenly becomes a more threatening situation. Same goes for races. If you see 3 asian men walking towards during night time, you are significantly more likely to be save than if you saw 3 black men comming towards you. Statistics (crime rates) prove that. So race is relevant here, too. Even purple pilled "culture not race" Israel loving cucks like Crowder admit that this is true.
This is all a metapolitical question, above politics, policies and alike. If you don't want the greatest civilisations in this world to go extinct, you will have to deal with facts about race and you will have to have a certain race realism.
I'm for the same solution to that problem everywhere by the way. I want India to stay indian, just like I want Sweden to stay swedish and China to stay chinese. Only one of these countries currently has a problem with that though. That's why we all need to act now. Race realism is the only way to go. Because I enjoy differences. I don't want a spanish India or a indian UK, or an arab Sweden. I want the natives to be present and dominating in their homelands. Just like they are in every other part of the world.
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
The most real compliment.
I already agree that letting large numbers of immigrants into a country is a big mistake. I am in favour of immigration being allowed but controlled to only let those people in who will be of benefit to the country. Japan is a fine example.
I want to understand this further.
An interesting perspective that has to be considered.
Makes sense. As women will be perceived as non-threatening. Let me see. Even though there may be aggressive powerful women in existence, the collective sex will be treated a certain way. Does that apply to races too? To an extent, yes. Do you acknowledge that a certain share of crime in African-Americans is a result of their poorer socio-economic status overall, and not completely a meritocratic result of their greater proclivity to crime, if any?
What do you mean here?
That will be good. There is one problem. The current age is capitalistic. Unless you remove capitalism, globalisation is inevitable, nation-states will become less powerful, borders will deteriorate. Look at the capitalist elite.
wmat213 5y ago
There is this certain gene called (IIRC) "OPRM1" that is considered to be responsible for aggression and the will to "expand" (their territory) of certain races. Every sixth arab has this gene, every 20th african, and only one out of 1 million chinese people. There are also medium and low aggression genes. The vast majority of Chinese have the medium aggressive gene, which name I did forget, and I think Europeans are mixed in these aggression genes but have the low and medium aggression genes rather than OPRM1. OPRM1 is very rare in Europe as well, though not as rare as in China. So much about aggression. There are tons of other differences in genes that lead to certain behaviour. Biology is fascinating but complex and I am nothing but a mere rookie in these regards, so I won't be able to educate you much further.
As long as we can agree on the fact that they are more likely to commit crime - whether they are poor or not - yes, I can acknowledge that. My grandma was very, very poor after the war (I am from Germany) and she didn't commit any crimes even though she knew what hunger was and was starving a lot. That's mostly because of her low aggression genes, probably.
People like Steven Crowder are only half "woke". They refuse to admit that the US is controlled by Israel and starts war with their enemies everywhere they go (especially in the middle east) and therefore is partly responsible for the massive influx of refugees into Europe. For people like Crowder, jews are perfectly innocent and never do anything wrong, all blame is on the muslims and "anti-americans" such as Germans who don't want US military bases in their homeland, not on those who actually sent those muslims to Europe by starting war with them and then getting their "big brother" (USA) to beat them up. Purple is the colour that results in the mixing of red and blue. (Reference to the "Red" and "Blue" pill, hence purple pill) cause he agrees mass muslim migration might be a problem for Europe (red pill), he just refuses to see the connections / reasons why this might be happening (blue pill).
For a fact, Israel tried to spread pornography through TV programs back in 2002 right before invading Palestine. That alone shows the sick and degrading tactics they're using in order to win.
It is a good point. I used to be an ultra-capitalist when I was in my libertarian phase during my mid-teens. Like most kids. Then I grew up. I'm not a huge fan of capitalism, especially not the kind of rampant capitalism that shits on the environment and everything just in order to make profit. There are more important things than money and unlimited growth is impossible. Or, as my Dad likes to say: The only thing that grows non-stop is cancer.
I'd describe myself as a classical national socialist. The kind of guy the jews have been trying to get rid of for over 80 years now. My opinion is illegal here, I could get a jail sentence for it. That alone is reason enough to be who I am.
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
It has been quite some time since this exchange. I have since come closer to understand points of view such as yours. Recently, I became even more interested in race after discovering the human phenotype classifications people have attempted.
What is your view on private property rights?
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wmat213 5y ago
Don't just follow these people blindly. Listen to their words and draw your own conclusions. Can't believe I need to mention this. I am not a fan of Nietzsche, but I think some of his writings were valuable. Same goes for Sun Tzu. I do like Schopenhauer and Kant though. Even though all of them were wrong about some things, most of the time they were right and had valuable thoughts. I don't need to suck on their balls in order to recommend them.
MCA_T 5y ago
Ethics and morality are manmade constructs of control
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
Does that make killing people fine, all of a sudden? I doubt.
MCA_T 5y ago
Depends on what the person has done, dont know where your'e from but life is cheap and even more so in sun tzus time
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
Life is cheap? Perhaps. I still value human life. I am aware in certain circumstances this may change.
vengefully_yours 5y ago
And here you are, sucking down the religious dogma koolaid.
Religion itself doesn't make you a bad person, but it sure as fuck can be used to justify any atrocity you can dream up. How do we know that? Because it fucking has been used to do exactly that. It's not based in reality, it's bronze age desert nomad stories that make a shit attempt at explaining why it rains and the earth shakes. Then they realized they could control people with it, and of course they go for your base instincts and claiming it's a sin to look at pussy lustfully.
Being raised to feel guilty about everything sexual, having been repressed and told it's dirty, is the root fucking cause why you sad little fucks are susceptible to wanking so much your dick gets sore and stops working. You're getting away with something, and that's a rush for your sequestered mind, then you feel guilty about it and that leads to more wanking.
The only guys I know who have had a problem with jerking off have been the ones raised in the children of the corn cults like baptists, pentecostals, mormons, and pretty much any evangelical faith healing snake handling falling down and shaking in church for validation when not babbling for an audience religious sect.
The red pill reference is about your fucking religion just as much as it's about you being lied to regarding girls and feminism. They're both dogmatic cults, not based in reality, and they use the exact same tactics to defend themselves and propagate. It's just as much a fairy tale that girls can do everything we can do as it is that some Jewish carpenter became a lich over a weekend to absolve you from something you never had in the first place.
Races do exist, there are differences among them, but it's utterly stupid to focus on it because we all came from the same area in Africa, over a few mass migrations caused by the climate changing allowing people to move to northern regions where they needed less melanin due to less ultra violet radiation in the north. Facial differences are due to mating selection, not due to some tower of babble bullshit. Variations happen, humans adapt to the environment and over enough generations you get light and dark skin people.
Holy fuck you guys have to be coming from some back woods Florida snake churches to not grasps simple concept like that. Is your family tree a fucking sapling?
Reality is not globalization. It's not leftist nor conservative, it's not racist, it's fucking reality. Jesus titty fucking christ you rail about not being told what to think, and to think for yourself, and yet here you are looking at the world through the lens of ideologues and zealots that was handed to you and you accepted it like a thirsty man getting a glass of piss. You aren't the only one who knows the truth, shit kid you barely know anything.
blindface 5y ago
So can communism and literally any belief system, what’s your point? We still owe our society to Christianity and the fact that we are taught the opposite of that is part of why we are rejecting everything that built the West.
Even modern science is deeply rooted in Judeo-Christian wisdom
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
I love the fact that you posted this. Thank you.
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Hussy68 5y ago
EC thinks that he is free from religious dogma but is still trapped in a western hedonist society and the only religion he knows and thus loathes is under the structure the cuck Christianity of the west. You base your argument on a personal god which DOESN'T fucking exist. God isn't your skybuddy. Morality doesn't exist. You don't wank because it's not bad for you but because you are equivocally subjecting yourself to ardent pleasure, instead of heroic pleasure.
You don't believe in religion because you believe in pleasure. Hope it feels good taking it up the ass like the Untermensch whore you are.
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
It sounds like you think there are no morals, so the only morals are biological in nature, as is evident by your statement about ardent vs heroic pleasure. It feels like you have, may I say, a Germanic tribal of sorts view.
Just felt like saying this.
ReasonableWealth 5y ago
Okay what do you propose people should follow then.
Hussy68 5y ago
Traditional society. A masculine society. Your prime biological instinct as a man is to conquer, not to stroke your dick and play fortnite.
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
Lets ignore species too because ultimately all living things came from fish and before that single celled organisms! Its not like adaptations happen everywhere from appendages to brain. To say that is to be a bad boy ignorant of Science! and devoid of common sense.
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
Interesting argument. Since most of us I assume are speciesist, is there any merit to talking about differences in races? I think any discrimination that sprouts from it is just one more tool to divide people.
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
Well think of it like this - if there are physical differences/adaptations of people to different environments, what makes you think that those differences/adaptations would not extend to the mind/intelligence?
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
What would you follow this with?
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
that some people are naturally dumber than others and thus should be treated as such.
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
Okay. Does that lead you to ideas such as ethnostates or otherwise racial discrimination and/or eugenics?
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wmat213 5y ago
Good day to you too, sir.
You've come up with lots of bad words, but little to no arguments.
Religion gives your life purpose and meaning. Whether or not there actually is a god or even several of them is absolutely irrelevant to my point. My point is that meaning and ideals are what nowadays blue pill society despises. There is no truth, there is no "right" or "wrong", there is nothing real. Only relativism reigns. If I stab you or not, who actually cares? If I rape that child or not, what does it matter? Rapists are people too! And so are pedophiles! We're all humans and one race after all, so we're all the same aren't we?
It's that kind of relativism, that leads to the blue pill of taking drugs, watching the same TV shows, listening to the same music as anyone else, without having anything to live for other than utter hedonism. It destroys young people. It's degeneracy at its finest.
You fail to see the potential of religion. If everyone had values, if everyone lived by religious principles, the world would be a better place. Now on the other hand: If everyone had no values at all we'd sink in chaos.
Or better said, degeneracy. Prime example: Modern west.
Your guilt theory about masturbation is interesting but wrong. It's not because of a social stigma attached to it. Sounds a lot like women saying there is no objective beauty, only social constructs that make us believe XYZ is beautiful. Sounds cute but it's absolutely false.
If your theory is true, then please tell me, why are especially atheists susceptible to choking the chicken all day long and becoming autistic weirdos who hang out on fetish porn sites 24/7? They don't believe in any god, they never did, they were raised agnostically or by atheists, yet most porn addicts are atheists, and from my experience they have the worst problems with masturbation. The kind of nerd with glasses and tons of nervous diseases from fapping all day long sitting in the library at your local uni, that guy is most likely an atheist. And that's not even me claiming that, statistics prove it. Just look at your average NoFap member. They still feel guilty about what they did. Why is that? Social stigma? They were raised agnostic or by atheists. The answer goes deeper than that. It's most likely in their DNA. White people report way more guilt associated with the usage of porn and masturbation than all other ethnic groups. Blacks for example still can get addicted to porn, but it doesn't make them feel guilty if they rub one out once in a while. Entirely different for whites. Also, the researcher Gary Wilson [rebutted all of your claims in a previous video and actually reinforces mine.](https://youtu.be/ZLtSoWrEplM?t=4576) don't take it from me, take it from one of the leading experts in porn addiction. You're welcome.
I'll ignore the rest of your little atheist rant and move on.
The claim that all humans originated from Africa is actually debatable, but I won't focus on that because it doesn't really matter that much anyways. That's been millions of years ago and we're talking about race in the present.
Dumbing race down to skin colour is another mistake blue pilled and uninformed red pilled people make from time to time. It's no crime because propaganda about the "one race" (human race) and us all being the same has been present for easily 60 years. Even old people are brainwashed by that nonsense. You can't go out and expect youngsters to see through these lies, even though some do. I happen to be one of them.
Race is as relevant as it gets, because it can be proven that a simple factor such as race can determine who you vote for, how likely it is that you're engaged in crimes, and even who you breed with. Look for any statistics about any ethnic groups voting pattern and you'll see that they differentiate immensely. So sorry to disappoint you, but race is the single greatest factor in finding out whether or not you will stab me / vote democrat. Even more accurate than wealth / education. In the US black people commit most murders and vote 85% democrat. (East) Asian people are known for being a low crime population everywhere they go. Women are more likely to vote left than men. And so on. Race is just as relevant (I'd argue even more so) than gender or wealth / education. You're wrong.
I've never claimed that I am the only one who knows the truth. I have not even claimed that I know anything. The stuff I'm telling you here is basic shit, stuff every teenager should know.
Other than that really I see nothing to refute here because your only argument seems to be coitus. Also, you seem kind of angry dude, take a chill pill and think about this stuff for some time. Appreciated.
JamesSkepp 5y ago
You should find your own, not have it given to you.
hotpeanuts 5y ago
Ohh man I can't even lol. This guy trolling or actually retarded? You must really live a sad, fearful life bro, I feel sorry for you.
telytuby 5y ago
If you actually read Nietzsche you’d understand there is no actual purpose to life other than what you ascribe it it. Don’t glorify him then shit on everything he says. You sound like an ultra-religious, ultra-conservative nut who’s panicking about decline of moral standards. The red pill is a toolbox for guys to manipulate and fuck women- nothing wrong with that because it’s the game everyone plays, but again don’t act like you care about morality when this sub is amoral- game is amoral- you’re ranting about race when basic sociological knowledge would mean you understand that race is a socio-economic issue. Yeah most crime is committed by black people against other black people. Of course they commit crime, they’re in impoverished areas. If you had any knowledge of sociology you’d also acknowledge the very obvious racial and class discrimination in school systems, with white working class boys being the worst, followed by black boys. There are systems that punish certain groups before they’re even able to write a fucking story.
Get off your high horse complaining about how “omg guys society is crumbling look at all this science and understanding and natural progression, we need to go back to where women weren’t allowed out of the house and the negroes were kept as sharecroppers”. Grow the fuck up, play the game and stop complaining.
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wmat213 5y ago
I don't glorify Nietzsche, I think some of his writings are valuable.
I don't care what I sound like (to you), I care about who I am.
Race is real and it's not social-economical but biological.
I don't think that TheRedPill is about game and women only.
I don't play "your" game. I play my own game and I am winning.
That being said I'm tired. Good night and have a great day.
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
Biological differences between races are real. Acknowledge what the differences are. Okay, done. Now I don't think race has any other use after that. Lest we treat individuals as part of collectives.
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poohead3 5y ago
Fuck outta here with that "poverty causes crime" nonsense. Does having little money make black men rape or kill? How come poor white communities don't have these problems? For such a "woke" sub this is, some of you are bluepilled as fuck on a lot of issues.
telytuby 5y ago
Poor white communities absolutely DO have these issues? There’s plenty of sociological theories on why black people kill/rape. Idk if black people actually rape more. For example read Cohen, status frustration or Merton on Strain theory. I don’t like functionalism that much but they give some fairly good reasons as to why people commit crime.
White crime rate seems lower because we get arrested less and charged less. Black men get the harshest sentences, then it’s white men, then black women then white women getting off basically Scott-free. If you want I can explain these theories in more depth, they’re pretty interesting.
The only person wanting to seem woke is OP, which I agree sounds like the most BP shit, but arguing of who’s more redpilled is retarded.
seiretnemeS 5y ago
You haven't swallowed the red pill one bit, and you think crime is only because blacks are poor? Explain the rape being 3x higher then. So weird.
shelteringloon 5y ago
Whats sociology 101say about those race-as-a-predictor claims you made when you control for socio-economic status?
wmat213 5y ago
You mean that rich black people are still more likely to vote democrat than rich white people?
shelteringloon 5y ago
so are you implying skin color dictates who you vote for? or race?
wmat213 5y ago
Race goes deeper than the colour of your skin.
It doesn't dictate who you vote for as much as it's an indicator.
Just like bad education doesn't automatically make you poor, it's just an indicator for being poor.
85% of black people in the US vote democrat. There are ethnic differences in voting behaviour, wealth, education, crime rates, height, IQ and many other things.
Btw. it's interesting to see how many people I argue with always deal in absolutes when talking about race. There is no "in between" for them. No middle ground. Either race totally dictates everything you do, or race doesn't exist at all. It's actually only one factor out of many. But at the same time, most of these people would claim there is no good and evil, and dealing in absolutes is childish. Very interesting.
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
Raised in a strict Mormon household. Can confirm a deeply rooted complex surrounding masturbation.
Restlessmindsyndrome 5y ago
So was I, but I never had any guilt about anything, I saw through that garbage at a young age and decided to do the opposite of everything I was taught. Not the best idea but that's how I found balance.
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
I was like that for a while, but my life fell apart in formative years due to mental illness and in my attempt to regain a footing I fell back into Mormon programming, which just worsened it. Plus I had a couple powerful spiritual experiences which made it difficult to entirely discard. What a goddam catastrophe it all was. Still not recovered really. Gonna plunge deep into psychedelics for some radical perspective.
JamesSkepp 5y ago
Is 3-1 female to male ratio true?
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
Not sure what you mean by this. If you mean polygamy, than no, that ended in mainstream Mormonism a century ago. The only groups that still do that are highly insular, culty fringe fundamentalists.
There’s another statistic tho that among single young Mormons (in 20s), there are 3 single women for every 2 single men (not 1). I left in my late teens tho and never attended what are called singles wards. Mormons have different congregations for single youth college age and up. These are distinct from the normal majority family wards.
In other words, I only ever went to the normal family congregations I was raised in (where there’s no difference in sex ratio), never to the singles congregations when I came of age. I just left the religion. So I have no personal experience of that stat, which only applies to the singles wards. But I have no reason to doubt it. It makes sense. I guess having left I’m a contributor to that stat.
JamesSkepp 5y ago
I'm referring to what I read somewhere a few years back, that Mormons try to keep 3-1 f-m ratio in their communities on purpose, even going as far as casting out young boys to keep it in the desired proportion.
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
Oh that applies to the weirdo polygamous fringe groups who live in rural compounds. They’re like 1% of the Mormon diaspora and not at all associated with the mainstream LDS church w the temples and missionaries. I’d hesitate to even call them Mormon. They’re crazy fundamentalists. They still dress like it’s 1800s. And they do that so the older established men have more wives. When people think of modern day Mormons (ie mitt Romney, Book of Mormon musical), that’s not who they’re thinking of.
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
Raised in a traditional Muslim household. Can confirm a deeply rooted complex surrounding everything sexual.
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
I’m actually reading the Quran right now
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
A good thing to do. Do tell what you think.
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
Im agnostic but I’m actually inclined to believe in it. Bout 100 pages in so far.
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
What is your current state regarding Islam?
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
I don’t think I’ll get beyond agnosticism towards it. However it is way too easily dismissed, considering that it’s a major phenomenon of world history. It turned a bunch of rando primitive Arab tribes into a world conquering civ and the peak of world civ for centuries. Obviously it hasn’t aged well. Religions go stale, even if they may have been true.
But at this point in my life I’m too much of a rationalist to make a leap of faith into a belief system. Especially after leaving Mormonism (a religion that is still youthful and fairly modern compared to Islam), and seeing how the leap of faith Mormons take lead them into a delusional worldview. So once you get burned like that, it seriously hinders your ability to fully embrace a faith based system in the future.
But I think the casual dismissals that Islam is nothing but a purely human phenomenon are rather smug.
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
Understandable. You previously said that "I am inclined to believe in it".
Elaborate on what you mean by it not being merely human.
They have to avoid too much rigidity. Religious leaders have the responsibility to not let religious tradition become irrelevant with societal progress and technological progress.
More or less. However, the same region saw the Sumerians, the Akkadians and the Assyrians build a civilisation before.
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
Very intriguing. What is the source of your inclination to believe in it? Do you have a former religious background?
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
Yeah Mormon. Don’t you recall my first comment that you responded to?
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
My memory doesn't seem to be that good. So, I find it intriguing for what reasons would a person find themselves inclined towards believing it? Are you a Mormom or ex-Mormon?
BlackCraneStoic 5y ago
Question. If Races exist where are the finish-lines? Does Race exist or is it a frivolous ideological construct devised to divide and control the "common" people?
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BlackCraneStoic 5y ago
There's a definitive objective reality bit all too often we slap labels on phenomena forming our own narrative because it's the easy and comfortable thing to do.
A mountain is but an aggregation of rocks and soil suspended at x altitude above sea level.
Colors are little more than varying light refractions as defined by the observer which no two people perceive as exactly the same due to differences in eye development. Do I know if theses to definitions are absolute and some scientist will turn both concepts flat on their heads in the future? No. Those ideas are just the ones that are widely accepted at the moment just as people once thought of flat Earth as a reality.
These phenomena are more illusory than anything but that's besides point. The point is that people are quick to adopt thoughts and concepts that have a consensus irrespective of whether it makes any semblance of sense to internalize or propagate because that's the path of least resistance that involves the least effort.
Is there variance within the human species? Only a moron would say no but to what degree can they be categorized and packaged into "nice neat little boxes" before deviating for from reality into the realm of ideological propaganda? Into fantasy that people blindly accept without questioning because they've been conditioned to? No place of mine to say.
wmat213 5y ago
Why would race be a construct? I'd say you'd have to prove to me why biology and millions of years of evolution are irrelevant, then we could talk about whether or not race is a concept made up by anyone.
The one-race-one-world narrative is the construct here. For centuries humans have known and appreciated the differences between the races. It only happened very recently that people are being told multiculturalism is the way to go, and European women have to get raped by African immigrants for diversity or something along these lines. You are bringing forward the new concept, the new idea. Why don't you prove me why it's correct?
I'm seriously begging you or anyone else to prove me how race is a construct / irrelevant. I'd love to have my mind changed here.
BlackCraneStoic 5y ago
My point is that all this shit is an abstraction when one stops and thinks about it. The biological narrative is that people separated from Pangea and gradually "adapted" not evolve to take on the respective phenotypes fitting for the environments they willingly or unwillingly chose to inhabit. "African phenotypes" adapted to have more melanin to covert solar radiation into vitamin D whereas Europeans gradually lost their melanation but developed a cultural sense of ingenuity to develop technologies that make adapting to northern climes easier and the physical characteristics to match.
All this stuff about humans being on the Earth for millions or billions is years is no more than a theory that people pedestalize because we as a species know so little about thr Earth we inhabit. As such "we" compartmentalize and categorize every little tidbit of our human experience so we can feel "safe" and "comfortable" in this strange floating mass we call Earth, including our own species.
I don't anything for certain but I am semnsible enough to know that human beings can live a little beyond 100yrs of the rarest of instances at the most. That being the case any claiming with certainty that humans have existed for millions is full of it. Really now what makes people so certain? Radiation from rocks?! Hilarious!
Politically, not biologically, the ideological categories of "race" makes sense as it neatly boxes people into different groups. When divided people are easier to pit against each for the sake of control or governance no different than the Democratic and Republican parties of the US. Two diametrically opposing sides on the surface that represent the same socialist oligarchy pulling the strings of the public. Think what you will.
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
I like your thinking, although I disagree a lot. I will only say that humans in roughly their current form have existed on Earth for a few hundred thousand years. Radiation from rocks is not a joke.
I wanted to get into an argument about this but I'll ignore.
BlackCraneStoic 5y ago
Fair but I mean clearly there's something strange about this. There's no way anyone can say these people reached this degree of opulence by being honest boy scouts. Something's afoot.
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
And there I completely agree. The richest couple dozen people have more wealth than the bottom half of the world's population. Our world is not a meritocracy. The elite haven't earned that wealth. They use corrupt methods, in effect, stealing the money. My reason for the objection was:
The socialist is THE person who is against this oligarchy. Terms have lost their meaning with misuse over time it seems.
BlackCraneStoic 5y ago
I'll pose to you a series of questions. What defines race? The way a person looks? Let's go with this. So let's say someone has a wide nose with dark skin. That makes them Black, right? Okay, ok. So now lets say this person's Great grandmother on their mother's side was European, their Grandfather on their father's side is Cuban and their mother is Native American while their father has traces of West Indian Taino and West African ancestry in their bloodline. What is this person? Black?
Okay, okay. Let's take a look at another person. Someone whose entire mother's lineage is European lets say Icelandic and she met a Carribean man she shaked up with and had said person of interest. This person is Black too despite the mother's definitive European ancestry?
Ohh well what about the Japanese? Well what if someone was seemingly of ancient decent but somewhere in the tree a Great seven times over Grandmother boned a German those since then every mating pair was purely Japanese. Surely this person must be White, right?
Makes so much sense doesn't it? Because race has so much of a basis in reality.
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
Irrespective of whether races are real or not, I think even if races are real, discussing them is useless.
BlackCraneStoic 5y ago
One one level it can be a bit of mental masturbation but on another people like Hitler committed genocide on the basis of this single idea. It's as frivolous or dire as one makes it out to be.
wmat213 5y ago
Would you say that discussing differences between cultures is useless? Differences between highly educated and poorly educated people? Differences between men and women? If yes, then good job, you are consistent on your arguments. If no, then you'd have to explain me why you make that exception for race and race only.
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
All of that is useful. Let me articulate. In my opinion, the differences between the current circumstances of various identifiable racial groups can and should be discussed and whatever scientifically verifiable differences are found be accepted as fact. After that, what is unacceptable is extrapolating those differences to thinking of every individual reminiscent of that racial group being characteristic of whatever stereotypical qualitative features have been ascribed to that racial group, even factual.
wmat213 5y ago
No no no no no my friend, that's not how this game works. You'll have to prove to me why races do not exist. That is your claim. I have to prove nothing to you. That being said, in one of my posts here I actually did prove why races exist and why they are relevant. If you want to debunk that, go ahead. But don't make me answer your questions just because you are too lazy to form an argument against my thesis.
BlackCraneStoic 5y ago
Feel free to call checkmate after reading this draft from the Executive Board of the American Anthropological Association dated back to May 17, 1998:
Source:http://www.americananthro.org/ConnectWithAAA/Content.aspx?ItemNumber=2583
Need I find more for being so lazy? Check.
wmat213 5y ago
Finally we're talking.
The claim about there being more variation within a racial group than between race A and B is not an argument that races do not exist.
Now that we got that off the table, it's not even a good argument for anything at all: Just because the warmest winter day might be warmer than the coldest day during summer doesn't mean you will see people running around in t-shirts during winter. The differences are still real and they still exist. It's generally still COLD outside. It's an exception.
In short: Africans are still africans, even though one of them might be closer to me genetically than a European it doesn't make the entirety of their race vanish. It's an exception, not the rule.
BlackCraneStoic 5y ago
You've conveniently ignored these two points in bold and the fact that the term "race" in this draft is specifically parenthesized.
Just because one is of African Descent doesn't necessarily mean that they're "Black" like the South African owner of Amazon. His name eludes me at the moment. Just as one was born in Europe doesn't necessarily mean that they're "White" like Edris Alba for instance.
There is nothing synonymous between cultural heritage and "race" as you seem to imply since the "human race" is a melting pot of genetic ambiguity.
Note: Africans and European aren't races they're labels attached to peoples born of said regions.
wmat213 5y ago
Whatever that text says does not refute millions of years of biology. Again, the "one world concept", the concept that human races do not exist is a new and outlandish claim made by a very small minority and spread thorought the planet as propaganda. It does not stand up to any scrutiny, whether it's biological data, sociological data, or common sense. Everything we currently got tells us that races exist and there are internal and external differences between them.
That being said: I don't know who you are talking about, but the owner of Amazon, Jeff Bezos, is not from South Africa but from the US. His specific genes are unknown to me, but a simple look proves that he's not of african descent.
Dutch people wandering off to Africa to get children there are still dutch. Nationality /=/ Ethnicity. Therefore South Africans with Dutch ancestors who are completely and 100% white / European exist. Not rocket science, primary school children would get that, not sure why I need to explain that to you.
You are not European just because you were born in Europe, same as you are not German just because you were born in Germany. Your nationality might be German-but that's nothing but a paper that can literally say anything. I could also create my own nationality and call myself an alien. Doesn't mean I actually am one. Paper doesn't alter biology.
Ethnicity, race, is not a coat that you can just conveniently put on and off. It's something you are born with and can't change no matter how hard you try, like height.
RedPilledGodEmperor 5y ago
I thought society tries to convince people that you don't need money to be happy?
wmat213 5y ago
Actuallly all I hear is people talking about money. Money here, money there. Fucking bitches, making money. That's all there is to life for so many people. Oh and taking drugs of course. Did I mention choking the chicken?
A good salary can be beneficial, of course. I'm not telling people to give up all their money and be homeless. That's BS and will make most people miserable. I'm just saying that money is secondary. Wealth is like sex. It's nice to have it, you shouldn't need it to be happy, and you should be able to live without it.
That being said, people are generally happier if they have a good income. Still wouldn't advise anyone to ever consider giving up their health for money. It's a very stupid trade. Also, never make money your main focus in life. It's just as mundane and irrelevant as sex after a while. You need to have ideals, a higher aim.
First of all work on self-developement. Most of the stuff you are proud about should come from yourself. If you look great, are strong and capable, have a great body, are highly cultivated and intelligent, well-dressed, knowledgeable and well-mannered and know what you want, your chance of being unhappy is very, very low. Money plays little to no part in this. As long as you have enough to afford clothes and a place to live at you're good to go, most of the times at least. If money is really that important to you go for it, but as I said, making money your aim in life, or putting it too high on the list will not be beneficial at all, even though that's what the blue pill tells you to do. Career first, everything else second. Especially women get brainwashed into this idea nowadays and it's sickening to watch. Women can't see through this programming as well as men can. They rather follow examples than to question things themselves. It's a shame.
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
I was intrigued by:
To me it seems more and more likely that happiness is actually just an illusion.
BlackCraneStoic 5y ago
And now their competing with men taking up job space in the workforce instead of cooking and cleaning at home while looking after their prospective kids and they wonder why they're so miserable. They've been duped out of their feminine roles in society to pursue the roles of men. This androgenic shift is destabilizing Western culture.
wmat213 5y ago
Absolutely agree. Stuff is really sick. It's like women are being told to go outside and lift some weights, be soldiers, be the man, but most of them don't even want to. Since women are grown children though (and I say that in the nicest way possible, I love children) they will believe that bullshit and some will try to be men until they either fail miserably or become very unhappy. At the same time you'll have all these soy-eating nu-males (buzzfeed reporters) who think masculinity is a disease, or something degenerative. The term androgenic shift, just read that for the first time, is so fitting.
saibot83 5y ago
Which of course was the intent all along.
RedPilledGodEmperor 5y ago
A person will be a lot happier if they are rich because they have the FREEDOM to do what they want, instead of working away at a 9 to 5 job, that might be sucking their soul away. Please, don't give me the money isn't important to be happy BS. Society wants you to not have enough money to say "f*** you, I'm not working anymore"
Try being happy struggling to pay the bills, having to live with roommates to afford rent, or not have enough in savings should you lose your job to last a number of months. Your financial security plays a big role in how happy you are. The person who is truly financially secure is going to be a lot happier than the person who is constantly stressing about money and can't enjoy life because they don't have enough of it.
wmat213 5y ago
Agree. That's essentially what I said.
Not gonna happen though for 99% of us. Hello reality.
Frenetic_Zetetic 5y ago
This is, unfortunately, the truth. Society and the economy can only exist and function as hierarchies. "Money isn't everything" is literally the system acknowledging you need money to get by, but convincing you that needing more than you need to get by is greedy.
Thus, you conveniently stay at your desk job and work in circles until you die. You also conveniently spend on things you don't need to be happy. Wait, I thought we weren't living for that reason?
Nothing to do with conspiracy and lizard people, and everything to do with effective business incentives, bottom lines, and essentially guaranteed productivity and tax revenue.
RedPilledGodEmperor 5y ago
Exactly. They want you to make enough money to survive and be able to spend money, but not enough to be financially free. It’s why I find those studies that talk about how “happiness doesn’t increase after a certain salary” complete BS. The system has been rigged to try and keep people slaving away. They want you to feel guilty for want to make and have more money.
Most people, including myself don’t have enough money. You know how I know that? The reason I know that is because if most people, including myself got fired/laid off/quit their job, they would run out of money at a certain point if they don’t find another job. Whether it be 3 months, six months or a year. It’s why I want to make more money, invest that money and grow my net worth. Not because I’m greedy, but because I don’t have enough money to be free. That’s what society doesn’t tell you.
That’s why I focus on earning and not just saving. I’m trying to produce more income in my job, or through investments and other sources.
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
This is correct. The elite want people to be content with working their asses away feeding the elite with wealth.
RedPilledGodEmperor 5y ago
Exactly and for those who don’t think that society doesn’t want you to be free, look at IRAs/401Ks and how much penalties those have, for withdrawing YOUR money, before a certain age. So even if you were smart or lucky enough to invest in great growth stocks like Netflix and others, if you wanted to withdraw your own money plus gains before 60, you would have to pay penalties
Also, look at the healthcare/insurance industry and how it’s set up. I am currently working full time at a great company and only have to pay about $35 a month for health insurance, since company pays the rest of the premium. Look at how much you would have to pay if you were unemployed or decided to retire. It’s ridiculous.
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
Agreed. Perpetuated by those with the highest power.
talexanderc 5y ago
I don't have tv, nor do I use a computer at home. Unplugged from all social media except minimal Facebook so far. It definitely makes my life more peaceful.
wmat213 5y ago
That's one thing I forgot to add. I removed nearly all my friends from Facebook and other social networks, stopped using the ones I never used anyways (removed my accounts) and started limiting my time on the ones I actually use (YouTube and Facebook) ... never been happier. I check FB like once a day to see what's going on but then close the tab and do something more important. It's like an antidepressant.
No wonder people have reported being happier after shutting down FB completely for some time. There's truth to this.
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AceofRains 5y ago
I can’t remember how long now. People I meet always ask me if I have FB and they’re always shocked to hear “nope”. This is not without merit, because rather than getting Facebook I get phone numbers.
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
You're making me consider leaving FB.
mattizie 5y ago
If you're not paying for it, you're the product.
Unless you use it for marketing your business, or to display high SMV, you're better off without it.
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
I will wait until I work hard enough to be able to display high SMV to make FB act as a automatic plate finder.
tmporae 5y ago
I need FB to exchange messages with certain people, and for that reason I cannot leave FB completely. I'm now using FB's "Messenger Lite" which does nothing except messaging. Haven't used regular FB in at least one year, so I get what I need from FB and nothing else. If the messaging is holding you back, give it a try.
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
I also primarily use Messenger Lite! Although I also use Facebook Lite to a lesser extent. I still have a presence on regular FB. It is a partial necessity, though this may be an illusion, as I gain little.
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Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
For those in power to stay in power.
AceofRains 5y ago
I will never forget the time my and my roommate were smoking weed and watching tv and an Oreo commercial came on. Me being aware of TRP lamented, “Dude I bet you anything we buy Oreos later.” Sure enough an hour later we go the grocery store before close and walk out with Oreos. At check out I said, “Holy fucking shit that commerial earlier got us.”
LouElmo 5y ago
Read “What To Say When You Talk To Yourself” and “The Power Of Your Subconscious Mind”.
Frenetic_Zetetic 5y ago
x2 for The Power of Your Subconscious Mind.
That is the single-most important book for me personally turning my life entirely around in a year.
3d_truth 5y ago
Interesting, will give this a go. Any chance you could list some things you learnt from it?
Frenetic_Zetetic 5y ago
Yes, don't tolerate negative thinking for any reason without coming up with a positive solution. Don't associate or spend large amounts of time around people with no problem complaining/being negative about everything.
You are like a sponge. You do not have a choice with how your subconscious integrates things. It's on 24/7. Think unhealthy, your body responds accordingly.
Change the style of music you listen to for 30 days and watch how your mood, perception, and motivation changes. This is not bullshit. I feel bad for people who get mislead and don't understand how primary the subconscious is.
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I don't even tune into lyrics/vocals when listening to a song anyway, then 4 years ago I found EDM and fell in love
A genre where most songs don't have lyrics? Sign me right up
EDM takes me on an adventure into war/battle, into a happy carefree stroll through a city, into a galactic flight through space and time
Mainstream/top40 EDM does have lyrics and some songs are about cuck love so I don't listen to those but I don't even enjoy the back track of those songs anymore so win win win
LouElmo 5y ago
I agree with all you say here.
3d_truth 5y ago
Yea that's interesting. Have you experimented with different music? I'm trying to think what kind of music would make me happy and motivated. I've always just listened to alot of alt rock. I have no idea what kind of effect that would have.
Restlessmindsyndrome 5y ago
I know it's not for everyone, but old school reggae only has positive messages, hell even the new stuff is positive, but the Jamaican stuff has more soul. Also if you're into electronic music there's some awesome, inspiring dj's. Pm me if you need suggestions...
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I've been looking for old school reggae, need some irie vibes (still waking up and my blue pill mindset is deep in there). Mind if I pm ya too?
NormalAndy 5y ago
Island records/ reggae refreshers are a good place to start.
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nefariousdestiny 5y ago
I saw you give some examples of positive music. Could you give an example of negative influences in music?
Frenetic_Zetetic 5y ago
Negative is a relative term, for sure. It will mean different things to different people. Certain types of rock and metal make me feel like my IQ is dropping, so I avoid that at all costs. Jazz and progressive and classical stimulate me on the levels that leave me feeling energized. It's a personal preference, but I've experimented enough to know myself and how my mood definitely changes.
NormalAndy 5y ago
Anything like Eurovision- the whole circus is a temple to trash.
IndependentAccount 5y ago
Anything with a major key: Vivaldi, Pharrell Williams, DRAM, COIN, Sam the Sham, Helloween, Wiskim.
And nothing with minor key: Arvo Part, Ciara, Xavier Wulf, The Cranberries, Death in Rome, Gnaw their Tongues, Boards of Canada.
Each video in major key corresponds to the same genre in the minor key list.
Sound has more of an impact than spoken word. For a more visceral example, listen to SOAD's "Chop Suey" now listen to Richard Cheese's.
TheLastHero7 5y ago
Honestly this is dumb. Saying “never listen to music in minor keys” is just wrong. Tons of amazing music is in minor keys. Minor does not equal “going to depress you”. It is literally just chord structures and more patterns.
I personally love rock and heavy metal, most of which are in minor keys. The songs still put me in a great mood and get me pumped up. I actually really enjoy Chop Suey. Sure it is disjointed and angry. So what? It doesn’t affect my thoughts, and gets me in a much better mood than some major key pop song.
IndependentAccount 5y ago
There wouldn't be a need to explain your taste when you're confident in your own skin. Lest of all to a stranger who doesn't give a shit about you.
TheLastHero7 5y ago
Lol I’m not defending my taste I’m saying your claim is retarded.
Either way, it’s not worth my time to get into trading insults so I probably won’t respond again
wmat213 5y ago
XXXTentacion, $uicideboy$, chart music, music with overly sexual / violent themes.
Positive: Nujabes (one of my favorite artists) folk music (mostly about love in a non-cucked way and landscapes / towns, depends on your country though) all songs with a positive message, maybe a beat that makes you happy etc. ... Reggae is not so much my style but I found some of it to be kind of nice.
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Iwannachokekatie 5y ago
Most of the positive vibe music is extremely unappealing to me though.
wmat213 5y ago
You can also listen to music without a message. I'm a sucker for 90s hardcore and even j-core too. Usually don't tell people that because they'd think I'm weird or smth. lmfao. But just saying, you don't need to listen to folk music or conscious rap in order to maintain a positive vibe. You can also live without any music at all.
Just look for something that doesn't have a bad message, because your subconscious will eventually believe and follow. I never listen to the radio because of that reason alone. You'll never know what they play.
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Yes listening to XXX and Suicideboys in the medium to long term will actually impact someones well being and can straight up throw them into a mild depressive episode however every now and then cueing up Look at Me or South Side Suicide is great for getting into a dgaf/overly confident mood
wmat213 5y ago
I sometimes listen to Lil Pump ironically in order to get into that mood. So I agree with that. But do so consciously and use it like you'd use medicine. Only if you need it.
RedHeimdall 5y ago
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wmat213 5y ago
spent 10 racks on new chain
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saibot83 5y ago
I drive a lot when working. I have a commercial radio station on as background noise. After a while you start noticing how devious current popular music culture is. Almost all male singer songs are beta to the max. Stuff like: I love you, I'm not worthy, You're so beautiful, wonderful, awesome, perfect, etc, etc. Then the female singers are pretty much exclusively slut propaganda turned up to 12: You can't have none of this, I fuck so many dudes I can't walk straight, I don't want no scrubs, I don't need no man, yadayadayada... (They) are brainwashing the youth. Music and television (Sex & The City was especially catastrophic) have done tremendous damage to gender relations. Women ARE more susceptible to these things. Lately (Vigilant Christian touched upon this) there have been a disturbing trend in increasing the violence towards men in music videos. Many being straight up murdered for no reason at all. Because feminism... or something I guess.
BlackCraneStoic 5y ago
The greatest power a man has is the free will to select his influences. Choose yours wisely to shape yourself in your own interests or they'll mold you in theirs.
3d_truth 5y ago
How to do this? I do know this playlist which is full of highly calibrated songs. As far removed from negative pop songs as you could imagine. Alot of spiritual messages and postive vibes. here
Ipride362 5y ago
“Always mind your surroundings.” -Henri Ducard.