This extract has been floating around twitter lately and it's disgusting how much it ignores facts like men too a victims, etc.
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"We talk about how many women were raped last year, not about how many men raped women. We talk about how many girls in a school district were harassed last year, not about how many boys harassed girls. We talk about how many teenage girls in the state of Vermont got pregnant last year, rather than how many men and boys impregnated teenage girls." "So you can see how the use of the passive voice has a political effect. [It] shifts the focus off of men and boys and onto girls and women. Even the term 'violence against women' is problematic. It's a passive construction; there's no active agent in the sentence. It's a bad thing that happens to women, but when you look at that term 'violence against women,' nobody is doing it to them. It just happens to them...Men aren't even a part of it!" Jackson Katz
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ALL crimes are reported in a passive voice to 1)raise sympathy for the victims, 2)It's not always certain to determine the criminals How often do you read in the news "how many murders killed men" instead of "how many murders were committed last year".
I understand the #MeToo trend is to raise awareness but it is downright disgusting how feminazis will often take the opportunity of being the victim as a shot to blame men for all
chauncy_popperstein 6y ago
I try to give a shit about women's problems... But I just can't. I cannot feel sorry for someone who is part of a protected/privileged class that gets everything handed to them. That society bends over backwards for.
And on top of that, what is it they are complaining about? "Mansplaining" or "Manspreading", or just made up shit like the "wage gap".
Please... I laugh at this shit.
The last time I was on a date with a Feminist I walked away. Literally.
We where on a "lunch date", at a local cafe type place.
Her: Well, you know because women are constantly under attack
Me: What do you mean? Are you a feminist?
Her: Of course I'm a feminist, women are being held back by the patriarchy... Blah blah blah, (insert other excuses for being useless here)
Me: Oh, I know what you're talking about... Uh, I need to go to the restroom be right back.
Then I walked the fuck out. Passed the waiter on the way and told him. "She's got the bill, she's a feminist." I don't waste my time with feminist. They don't have anything to offer.
CeleritySteam 6y ago
Remember, feminists are SJWs and SJWs always project.
Manspreading: I'm a fat fuck but I'll blame you for taking excessive space on public transport. Mansplaining: I'm an arrogant fuck who is triggered by you teaching me basic things I should already know. Wage gap: I work low effort low paying jobs for less time then cry I am paid less. Seriously, go in any non male centric store and the low effort grunts like cashiers will be 85% women and the people doing actual work or in charge will be almost 100% men. If it is a male centric store (anything based on building or technology), it's at least 75% men at all levels.
keepitsteady 6y ago
"She's got the bill, she's a feminist"
Gold.
niczar 6y ago
As an aside, I love merely stating "women are privileged in our society". Either IRL or on social media.
People lose their shit, something fierce.
But I'm a troll.
Schrodingersdawg 6y ago
Ding ding ding. There’s a bloody thread on bestof right now talking about how bad women have it because, gasp men hit on them.
Completely ignores that men get mugged and attacked and murdered at astronomically higher rates.
Rape culture exists because women, in their minds, create a strawman or unrealistic fear that has no basis in reality.
And this shapes public policy.
JonathonWally 6y ago
I posted a lot in there and received a hail of downvotes when I called on women to have personal responsibility when it comes to their safety. It’s wasn’t till hours later when some people with critical thinking showed up to agree with me.
BigGreekMike 6y ago
You should’ve paid the bill, and had the waiter tell her “compliments of the patriarchy”
biggerbetterjobs 6y ago
savage.. lol. I want to do this.
chauncy_popperstein 6y ago
LOL I like that!
Going to remember that one.
empatheticapathetic 6y ago
It wouldn't achieve shit because the concern itself (patriarchy) is already bullshit. She'd just add it to her list of complaints despite getting a free ride off a man again.
SirKolbath 6y ago
Chauncy, you are the wind beneath my wings.
Dmva100 6y ago
Yeah im sick of it too. Im starting to blatantly ruin womens lives for the fun of it to watch their reactions, especially with single mothers.
My buddy works in child services and whenever I see a single mom yelling at her kids I call him up and deal with the girl and about 7 out of 10 times the kids get taken away lol it's great he gets promotions for it too.
They go nuts. They truly believe they can do no wrong.
CeleritySteam 6y ago
Dude, you're not hurting the mom. At best the kid's an extension of herself, she won't feel sad about losing it.
Single moms will fuck a kid's mind but the group and foster home dance will do a lot worse.
If you're targeting the single mom target her income so she can't buy more self appreciation garbage.
Whitified 6y ago
Its a bit of a "revenge" reaction for them destroying the Patriarchy (a man's authority over his wife and children). So now he infringes the mother's authority over her child too by getting the State to arrest her. Perhaps the irony here is what makes it funny
CeleritySteam 6y ago
Claim she abuses the kid. That does the same thing and targets her. It won't stick even if it's true but it will make people doubt.
FREEDNA 6y ago
Same.. it's like a secret weapon nobody talks about.
See a young girl smoking near her baby? Call child services and grab a chair and watch the fun!
BigGreekMike 6y ago
That’s a bit of a sociopathic way to prove an internal point
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CrazyHorseInvincible 6y ago
No moralizing.
Dmva100 6y ago
Yeah they shouldn't have to suffer from female solipsism that breaks up the family either.
To each their own.
buddhadarko 6y ago
Upvote this gold people. UPVOTE.
The fickle female mind is responsible for so much turmoil and divisiveness in families.
empatheticapathetic 6y ago
I would have stayed for the lolz bro. Probably take anything serious off the table but just see where she went with it before leaving.
dakameltua 6y ago
I'm starting to get tired of woman complaining... Since they can get this exponential exposure levels with technology, it has now reached a mayor global scale of annoyance. Not one person is saying problems like rape and sexual harrasment aren't a big deal, but god damn I feel it is now a mayor overreaction over every small thing men do. They want the world to be a fairytale and have completly forgotten how much their "discomfort" relies entirely on social structures and safety. Belive me, they would not be complaining about a thing during harsh times...
therighttobecool 6y ago
Men building greater technology and science is main reason why women are getting more uppity-because lot of the stuff we make is making us look more obsolete to them. Men are killing their roles very slowly as the decades go on all to impress some vagina.
Household chores have gotten easy due to the laundry machines and dryer-no more having to pound clothes on a rock near a lake. The vacuum cleaner really saves a lot of time and energy (of course manual household chores actually kept women in shape in the 1950s based on studies comparing women's waists back then and now, the difference is immense).
In the medical science department, they corrected women's inability to work out of home due to her female organ functions (menstruation). Giving her painkillers and methods to cope with it better along with hygenic products to cover up any embarrassing moments they will have at work outside of home.
Cranes, mechanical tools have also removed the need for men's physical strength. There were men that weren't even professional strongmen that could perform feats of strength which was just in part of their job. Of course these types of men have become fewer in number in our times for obvious reasons-more mechanical tools being available. It's interesting to note that middle aged women in the olden days were as strong if not stronger than many of our male athletes today. Imagine how strong the men were.
Internet and social media. Internet completely put the guy living in the library out of shame. With internet anyone can become very smart, don't act like it won't, lot of college professors have sort of hinted out on how internet sort of dumbed down the more eccentric hard working intellectual types into people that don't read books anymore-this includes women. And of course we all know social media's effect on women.
In combat related tech/science, anyone can pick up a gun and kill Hulk Hogan. Makes many fighting experience and muscles on men have no more respect. A woman could pick up a gun and kill say Dolph Lundgren. If we think of more primitive tech like swords, Dolph Lundgren wouldn't lose to a woman in a sword fight. Sort of proves that the more advanced weapon tech gets, the more obsolete men's combat skills and physical prowess will began to appear which we were basically created for in the jungle.
These are just few examples of how science/tech is making women think men are obsolete (even though it's almost all men that are on maintenance, creation/invention and innovating them).
bolupua 6y ago
Jennifer Lawrence denounced abuse because a producer told her she was "fuckable". Yes, he only told her that. And it's abuse.
vengefully_yours 6y ago
She is fuckable right up to the point where she opens her mouth to speak.
Dmva100 6y ago
Plus Jlaw doesn't even know what she's talking about most of the time.
Hurr durr we voted and it caused the hurricanes.
Muh politics! o.O
MemphisOsiris 6y ago
I'm pretty sure that was a joke. And can we please not bring Trump into this?
SasquatchMcKraken 6y ago
Which is such bullshit. Any time I hear a girl bitch about being ogled at or flirted with I always open with something that blatantly assumes she's lesbian. I always get an indignant response ("uh, I'm not gay!"). To which I respond with something like "ah, so you're a straight woman who doesn't enjoy the attention of men? That doesn't add up. In fact, I think the lady protests too much." In the 4 or so times I've done that, I have yet to see her not be speechless. Sexual harassment is the new race card, except way more overplayed.
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askmrcia 6y ago
How is that not a compliment?
bolupua 6y ago
Because he was not attractive.
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gELSK 6y ago
// , Tried that for a decade. Tried this shit, and BOOM, it was like flicking on the attraction switch.
I_AM_CALAMITY 6y ago
Everyone here is here because they tried that and it didn't work
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FREEDNA 6y ago
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmBWCI5CIAAXeS7.jpg
Hillarysdilddo_2016 6y ago
I agree with the SJWs completely.
We should have completely gender segregated schools, colleges, gyms, and workplaces.
The only time I should even see a woman is if I go to the bar looking for one.
gELSK 6y ago
// , Why not make a post about it?
Drezzzire 6y ago
I actually wouldn't mind that at all. I've had it up to here with women and their complaining and accusations.
Dmva100 6y ago
So If a girl sneaks in an visits her bf at his dorm In an all male school, he can 'rape' her and she can't do shit because she wasn't supposed to be there.
I like it.
Hillarysdilddo_2016 6y ago
Yeah the irony is how they bitch and moan about "the patriarchy" and how we need to increase diversity. Then they complain how we're all misogynist rapists that are soooo dangerous.
So simple solution give them their own space and leave us the fuck alone.
Watch them switch right back to bitching about "exclusion."
The only way to win is to hit back twice as hard.
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they already do.
remember that sour red bitch that stopped a MRA meeting with a fire alram. or those bitches that complained to boyscout because they couldn't get in so now boyscouts explore "co-ed" programs.
SasquatchMcKraken 6y ago
Yeah we tried that. What ends up happening is the girls want to crash the boys' party. Witness the [former] Boy Scouts, or the military, or any major sport (at least in the media aspect). And name a young guy you know who's part of a non-collegiate fraternal order. An all-male space would be badass, but it'd take about two seconds before girls wanted in and there are plenty enough pussy-addled dudes who'd let them in.
SaveTheRhinos 6y ago
Ahh that's not what he said?
Dmva100 6y ago
He said:
I agree with the SJWs completely.
We should have completely gender segregated schools, colleges, gyms, and workplaces.
The only time I should even see a woman is if I go to the bar looking for one.
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I don't know if the mods are nuking #MeToo threads, and have no problem with it if they are......
What pisses me off about the whole thing is they say "Oh, and men are sexually harassed too." False equivalence. We are stronger so the threat of violence is diminished to near 0.
The true violence against men is when good men have their children ripped away from them, are kicked out of the house they pay for, so their post Wall ex wife can ride the CC again.
How many guys have it coming? I don't know. There are no unicorns of either sex. I'm guessing more often than not, it's unjust.
vengefully_yours 6y ago
You're right about the "but men are too" bullshit, but from the wrong view. Men have a hard life for a reason, because in our world it's sink or swim, kill or be killed, man up and get to work or end up with nothing.
Dude, what fairy tale bubble wrapped world do you live in? Near zero threat of violence? I live as far from other people as possible to avoid drunken idiots wanting to look tough by starting shit with me. I'm a big scary fucker because I've been fucked with my entire life. Can't even begin to count the number of times I've been assaulted, especially before I got the muscle. I'm not even counting the wars, that's just my time along the civilians. Shit I didn't grow up in a ghetto with gangs, it was middle of nowhere farm country.
I am the second one too, my kids ripped from me, indentured to the ex for 15 years living in poverty, oh yes I know how the world works. While that made me want to end it all because of the futility of any effort and rarely getting to see my kids while being punished for being a man, but nobody involved in that was actively trying to kill me.
Humans are fucked up. They are all capable of extreme violence when pushed into the right circumstances. Some simply are because they know they can do it and get away with it. They enjoy feeling stronger by beating up those smaller, that shit doesn't stop in middle school, that is in the adult world too.
You don't know because you've been sheltered from it like girls are. When, not if, you experience that part of human nature for yourself, you won't know what the fuck to do about it. While I don't wish my life on anyone, nobody should grow up completely unaware of the violence everyone is capable of. The only people who think like you do are those who have never had to fight for their own survival or defend themselves. You should hope you never meet anyone like me who wants to harm you. I'm tired of the violence but I'll use it easily if it's needed, and I'll fucking win. Every fucking time, because I've embraced it and am not afraid of it.
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Damned right, and I've been scrapping all my life.
From women. White knights, perhaps, are a threat, but for the most part, for most men, women are not a direct physical threat. That's all I was talking about. If I grab a girl and start kissing her, there could be a threat of violence behind it. If a girl grabs me and starts kissing me, I do not fear her. That's it.
Shit man, some of those places can be pretty rough. Fewer cops, fewer diversions, more booze.
Not in the slightest. My junkie cunt first wave feminist mother took me to the cesspool called Tampa, FL, at 10, where she proceeded to escalate from heroin to crack. At one point, one of her dealers got shot robbing a neighboring house, and he came to our apartment bleeding from a gunshot wound (kudos to the home owner, btw). I was called home from work, rather than told to prepare to flee....if the cops would have gone into either of our bedrooms, it would have been more than problematic.
I love Dad...he made bad moves, but we have a great relationship now. I was 30 before it really blossomed. Hope you do with your kids as well.
I am lucky in that I'm the wrong size to fuck with.....not big enough to be threatening, not small enough to be a trivial target. I was also marginally athletic and class of '90....military service appealed, but the kid taken last on pick up sports teams doesn't get to blow shit up.
I am disgusted and dismayed at our failure to hold the Green Zone in Iraq. Regardless of the politics of the matter, we had control over some of the most prime real estate in the geopolitical world. That should have been a generational occupation, or none whatsoever.
Jocko impressed the hell out of me in his podcast with Sam Harris. I'm sure you've heard this before, there are two types of people in the world: those who would use human shields, and those who would be dissuaded by human shields. I know we're not perfect, but it was our guys who went in and tried to make things right when shit went sideways, often at elevated risks (often too elevated risks) to themselves.
2jz240sx 6y ago
samehere ... for all men that this has happened to.. bet it would out number the # metoo
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But wait, there's more.....
I have had 2 major relationships in the last 10 years. One was 10 years younger, but about a 4....had she never gotten fat, she'd have been cute, but gravity took its toll, going from 200 pounds to 100 pounds at 5 foot nothing. Really pretty brown eyes and the cutest little pussy I've ever seen.
The other was 20 years younger and a fucking smokeshow. Solid 8, cute face, big tits, child bearing hips.
Guess which one put me through the ringer?
The hot girl always had options, and further we knew we'd break up when she went to grad school, so we remain close friends with occasional benefits, lots of love with no drama.
The ugly girl could do no better than me, and she sunk her talons in deep.
I have thick callouses now, and with what I've learned from TRP and Blackdragon I hope to keep relationships where I want them.....but this little bitch tore me to shreds emotionally.
ExposeTheFAUX 6y ago
STOP FUCKING crying about feminists. GO LIFT AND BANG BABES AND STFU PUSSY
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CasualCocaine 6y ago
Lmao I was wondering where you were
ExposeThisBitchPls 6y ago
About the violence against women. That brings up a great point that is EXTREMELY ignored - The lesbian domestic violence epidemic. 40% of lesbian relationships report domestic violence compared to 30% of straight couples and 20% of gay men. But we can’t talk about it cuz women are neverrrrrr the perpetrators
sonder_one 6y ago
One of the criticisms that right-wing people have levied against left-wing people for generations is that they use the passive voice to refer to people's suffering the consequences of their bad behavior. Got fired for doing something terrible? "Got laid off." Blew all your cash on drugs? "Card got denied." Stabbed somebody? "The knife went in."
The Left has always called these criticisms "blaming the victim."
Now, all of the sudden, it suits them to notice.
refunkulation 6y ago
I wouldn't even call it right-wing people, its people who were born or bred with common sense, which is a rarity.
George Carlin has one of the best takedowns of soft language and euphemisms you'll ever hear (in 1990), and he's far from a right-wing thinker.
He points out how Americans have serious trouble dealing with reality, so we soften up the language.
Example being the word for when your nervous system snaps during warfare, the term began in WW1 being referred to as SHELL SHOCK, a direct, to the point word, of what a soldier is going through.
However, SHELLSHOCK turned into BATTLE FATIGUE, then that turned into OPERATIONAL EXHAUSTION, then that word turned into POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER (from 2 syllables to 8 syllables)
The pain is completely buried under big uses of word, and he rightly points out if the word was still SHELLSHOCK and not POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER, all those messed up Vets from Vietnam probably would have received the treatment they deserved post-war.
xeneize93 6y ago
I'm torn in half...I know women do fucked up shit but guys do fucked up shit I can't complain about it. Freedom of speech. Only thing I got to say is if you're abused and you're with the whole #metoo shit speak the fuck up and say who fucking abused you
sonder_one 6y ago
" rather than how many men and boys impregnated teenage girls"
So now all teenage pregnancy is nonconsensual sex? Or do (wait for it)...
WOMEN HAVE NO AGENCY?
gELSK 6y ago
// , Legally speaking, this is the case until age 18 in the most populous States.
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
It's WOMEN that want to be the focus.
Women want to be the victim.
If we took the shift away from women (virtually all of whom seem to be getting sexually assaulted these days, now that sexual assault includes "looking at them in a way they don't like at that second or at some future time")... if we shift away from women, we'd have to admit that it's a tiny fraction of men that are doing all the harassing.
And that wouldn't do. Women wouldn't be seen as victims, and most men wouldn't be seen as perpetrators. Women aren't going to go for that.
Trooper_1868 6y ago
best comment I have read. IF you have to learn something from here, learn his last line.
plainposter 6y ago
just sarcastically take the blame for everything.. agree and amplify
"yeah i know.. i'm so terrible.. I am the worst person in the whole world, just look at me, i'm basically hitler, please, don't look at my face, i feel so ashamed at how awful i am"
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Dragon_Garoo 6y ago
I have seen literally today, a guy who said "#metoo, but I moved on and got over it" be defriended for not being enough of a virtue signaller. One white knight screamed at him that "penis carriers need to shut the fuck up and LISTEN TO WOMEN".
It's hilarious. I like to challenge these people to de-gender their discussions and stop raging at each other and accept that violence and harassment happens and that we should do something about it, but recognize, that there is a line where you don't freak out, because some person grabbed your ass or said they wanna fuck or grabbed your crotch or tried to kiss you when drunk.
All things I've had happen by guys and girls, hell. Even this week.
Meh. I agree with the move on, deal with it, but everyone wants to be a victim. So you need to question the narrative in a way that sounds like you are trying to engage a conversation, instead of a fight.
Or be smart and say nothing and just let them flail in the wind.
I prefer to try and move the overton window. :-)
mateerladnam 6y ago
the only reason i can't stay silent, because their noise making actually works. they gain attention and exploit this attention to get funds and lobby lawmakers to make pro-women policies. if feminism was really about "equality" why the hell not make gender-neutral policies, why the hell not accept that men can be victims too? their noise making is an attempt to shut us up so they can silence us while they oppress us.
Dragon_Garoo 6y ago
Well said. Which is why it's good to try and move that overton window.
therighttobecool 6y ago
If we point out statistics that show men make more money than women, women will say it's because men are oppressing women, keeping them down, discouraging them, not giving them promotions and discriminating them.
But if we point out why there are more men in prison than women, women are going to say it's because women are better people. The double standard is immense. What's ironic is that the statistics of men vs. women on money is that there is no supporting statistics that prove that men really are oppressing women. But there is supporting statistics for why there are more men in prison than women, 60% of women that commit the same crimes that incarcerated men committed are not put in prison. That points out there is sexism against men in the prison/court system.
mateerladnam 6y ago
exactly, i'm so tired of the hypocrisy and and using the victim card! they will openly manipulate statistics, use flawed arguments, and despite all that they manage to gain more sympathy and attention than the men who suffer just as much. No one really cares about male victims of abuse, divorced dads losing their children, or a man's basic freedoms.
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Xrayy1 6y ago
They only find blame in their own frame they make up. What I mean is they take your frame and try to add blame to it.
You can assimilate others' frames not in your control and so inherit the blame in actions they deem fit. or You can make up blame in your own frame and fuck yourself up.
What helped me understand frame is this: http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/21/the-categories-were-made-for-man-not-man-for-the-categories/. It makes me realize that every category is made up to serve a purpose. Every frame is right in itself, cause its a bundle of categories, which serve the wearer(or not ..).
My hypothesis: The only way to have a strong frame is to make it up yourself or to inherit a strong frame from other strong frame.
gELSK 6y ago
// , This comes close to the Sapir-worf hypothesis, if I read it correctly.
Can you offer an example of what you mean, in terms of this discussion about blame and frame?
BrokenPhoneBooth 6y ago
That's a lot of frame in one post.
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gELSK 6y ago
// , There is a reason for this: http://www.rooshv.com/do-not-have-sex-with-feminists
This guy is a bit weird. But if you think turnabout is fair play, as the Bard would say, withholding sex based on politics is fair play.
Women have been doing it since they got the vote, with the Temperance movement: https://www.loc.gov/item/sm1874.05123/