It depends what mood I'm in. Sometimes I'm flattered when an ugly woman likes me, other times I think "How fucking dare you think you even have a chance."

Thanks for sharing.

In relation to SMV and how we perceive people based on it, you can say the same thing on why we like it when a "cool" guy gives us his attention and tells us stuff about himself, while at the same time when someone we don't respect does it we just get annoyed and bothered.

Everybody likes it when people are attracted to them, they don't like it when people act on that attraction and attempt to get with them or make a move on them. This means you have something to deal with, and might result in a negative event happening, for example that person getting offended and possibly going crazy on you because you didn't find them attractive back.

Its less of a problem from a mans point of view, but imagine being a 110 lb chick having to reject a 220 6'2 dude who she rejected, that shit must be a lil scary.

I am an indian dude moved to Canada six years ago. I was a FOB wore a dorky jacket, eye glasses and greasy hair and approached women. They feel disgusted and I could see in their face and got rejected left and right. One day I asked this question to myself why women don't like me. I am smart and clever.

I started lifting. My personal trainer told me about RedPill. It was an eye opening to me.

Once I started hitting the gym and went to 12% bf dress well and smell good. Not to say it took fucking two and half of years of lifting. Now all the gay guys hit on me in the parties. LOL.

As redpill say Be attractive and improve your SMV.

Actually, biologically this is different from man to woman. Woman will often target (not always, but often - because they will obviously also show attraction to SMV10) someone around their own SMV, whereas guys wouldnt mind targetting SMV10 if they are SMV4. Also; "Long story short, this guy sends a creepy text to the girl in attempt to "woo" her, she immediately proceeds to block him and say how creepy and wierd he was behind his back." was that you, lol?

Why are girls disgusted by guys of lower attraction hitting on them?

Two reasons.

1: Girls have an instinctive inbuilt disgust about the idea of sex with low value men (more so than men have towards women). Even a high value man can trigger this by behaving in the wrong way towards a woman.

2: By SAYING how disgusting they find male attraction, they can elevate their own position as being the chooser, as having options, of finding even fairly high value men disgusting therefore her value is even higher than his. Putting people down to raise one's own value.

Valuing the attraction of other people makes you low value. Men value women liking them because they have few options. Women say they do not value male attraction in order to signal their own attractiveness. That's why they talk about it so much even while pretending not to like it.

as a low SMV male can confirm. People hate me for my baldness and short stature, women treat me like a talking dog.

Literally everyone is flattered whenever anyone finds them attractive. The level of flattery differs sure, but no one is ever internally disgusted because someone thought they were attractive. Hell when a grandma says I'm so handsome I feel good about myself. It's not the same as the grandma asking me out, but it still serves the same purpose, validation.

Pretending to be grossed out is just a facade high SMV people put on to ensure that the people around them are fully aware that they do not consider that person of equal SMV.

Women receive an assessment of their SMV from who hits on them. Being hit on by low SMV guys, feelsbadman.

90% of the interest I receive on online dating sites is from fat chicks. It has definitely been a humbling experience.

Idk if men should take it as an insult when fatties are attracted to them. Women these days have way, way overestimated their value. Tinder hasn't helped.

I only just realized exactly how women felt just earlier when I realized a girl (whom was definitely not attractive) began to like me. It made me subconsciously question if my SMV was truly at a good spot.

That's happens to me periodically. It makes me feel low. This dynamic is obvious, lesson learned, yet so easy to forget.

Seems like most men don't comprehend this concept via doing a basic reversal.

Girls are accessible. Get body where it should be, groom, basic temperament, basic talking skills, and a smile delivers. Women are drowning in sea of beta mentalities, slobs and the rest. They are starving to talk to a standard TRP grade guy.

It's much easier to talk to girls when your body checks out. Hitting the gym concurrently gets you ahead on several most important levels. Self respect, respect from others, SMV, fades away creepy level, mood, even makes for a better smile I find.

This thesis was explained here: http://archive.is/90chO

'Why Pretty Girls Hate Being Asked Out on Dates by Nerds'

I don't know if this sort of cerebral explanation is needed. Isn't it just instinct?

Good post.

It goes for men too. How do you feel if you're hitting on a beautiful girl, and a 3 day old meatball with legs interrupts to talk to you?

A woman's ultimate fantasy: being so attractive as to render a high SMV man unable to restrain himself from taking her by force.

A woman's ultimate nightmare: being raped by a low SMV man.

Apologies for the naive question, but I'm new to the subreddit. What does SMV stand for?

It's pretty much hardwired into women. Par for the course

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I have equally been disgusted when an ugly girl boldly starts hitting on me

For women I think it comes down (at least partially) to social status.

It's very important for women that they be seen in the eyes of their peers to have nice lives, good friends and plenty of dating options - so when some loser approaches them or won't leave them alone it can legitimately bug her because in the eyes of others it might seem like she's "Open to dating down" or whatever.

Women throw low SMV men under the bus all the time, it's not surprising and you can't really blame them.

 

• Females who are low SMV are disgusting.

 

I get this all the time.

I'm a 56 year old guy who stays in good shape and looks good for my age.

Women up to 60 and 65 see me and figure they can entice me towards them after all 20-30 years ago they might have been attractive women.

These women can't (initially) realize that my focus is on women 30 and under.

In their mind since they are near my age we are "equals".

So yeah... disgust is true for men towards women too.

Any time anyone attempts a hookup when the SMVs are a major mismatch will create the disgust in the higher SMV person.

The first rule in Game is to never project that your target is above you SMV wise.

Women get away with this a little as a SMV 7 male will drop to a SMV 5 female just to fuck... but SMV 3 female... no way, that's disgusting.

(but I confess to have fucked way below at times... oh well)

 

It's an insult to them, they'll think "this guy is such a loser... wait why the fuck does HE think he can get ME?"

"You see"

you should delete this from your internal dictionary.

I agree 100% with your post. I get annoyed when overweight women hit on me, whom then get upset because I don't reciprocate positive feelings. Most of the times they would also have lousy characters as they would become vindictive after I simply said no to their advances. One woman at work even filed a fake sexual harassment complaint against me after I turned her down multiple times. She was so unattractive that HR never believed her and I had a dozen witnesses and the company's CCTV footage on my side. Only took HR two hours to clear the accusations.

Yes, but both sexes will use that to their advantage and go for someone beneath them (lower SMV than they have, but only so low...) if they are looking to heighten the odds of fidelity, pledges of absolute allegiance, adoration and "love" etc.

Don't ever try explaining this particular brutal truth to someone who registers below a "5" or so - it probably won't end well.

"low smv" people being attracted to you making you doubt yourself is a retarded mindset. you decide your smv, you decide if you are or are not attractive, you are in control of yourself and how others see you. to let others decide your worth is to be blue pill slave, and most women especially are incapable of deriving their self worth from within and thus always have a slave mindset, and tend to be attracted to either psychopaths or other slaves.

Most of the time they are not disgusted, unless the low smv guy is doing messed up stuff like threating or stalking them.

There are several reasons why you hear them ”complain” about a lesser being having a crush on them. The biggest reason is letting everyone know that they are being desired by other people, which means a lot for women.

If they are telling it to their friends, they are also seeking for confirmation whether the guy in question is low smv. They can decide whether someone looks handsome, but they don't know how others perceive the status of the guy.

The last reason is an attempt making other guys jealous. Applying dread against women is a great tactic, so they figure it has the same effect on the opposite sex.

"You began to doubt whether or not you really are that attractive if unattractive people think they have a chance at getting with you." -- You pretty much answered your own question, no?

I can understand women in those kind of situation. When fat low smv girl hit on me very directly (i want to kiss you etc.) it made me really uncomfortable and a hassle I had to deal with. I wasn't disgusted but still. I didn't like that. But I know my value and didn't question it. It just confirmed the red pill truths with hypergamy and shit. Still I was a bit flattered. Especially since she's had some beta orbiters around her that in turn she ignored lol.

People want validation, respect and admiration from healthy, wealthy, attractive people.

This is why people ignore homeless people, but not an attractive businessman who needs a dollar.

If you're creepy, people will not like you because you have a "bad" vibe. You make people feel bad. Nothing to do with SMV. If you're not creepy and you show appreciation (in a proper manner) people will enjoy it. If they don't enjoy it, they're probably insecure about themselves.

Nothing to do with SMV. Just how you make others feel and how they feel about themselves.

Try to say to random girls "Hey! I just wanted to say, I find you very attractive. Have a great day." Then walk away. Watch their face. If you do it right, they all smile. Except insecure girls (even the prettiest).

There is a good article explaining waht creepy is but i don't know how to send the link. Tell Me if you're interested

I don't know if this is the whole picture. I'm a little flattered when I have a flat out 1/10 declaring her love for me because. I think its genetic hard-wiring to pick the best option for procreation, and feeling disgust with respect to someone of lower SMV stops you from wasting your time banging them. For girls its especially pronounced because of the risks of sex (pregnancy). For men its probably much less so. I doubt you've felt anything near the disgust she felt.