Summary: These days, with all the examples of false rape allegations it's important to be smart and guard yourself against it happening to you.
Why they falsely accuse
A few of the more popular reasons:
- To cover up infidelity.
- Because they regret it.
- She was caught in a sexual act that would damage her reputation.
- She doesn’t want to be called a slut.
- To blackmail for money.
- To get rid of someone at their workplace.
- To ruin someone’s public reputation.
- Revenge.
- To gain sympathy on Facebook.
And, because it’s easy! The justice system usually rules in their favour.
Preemptive measures for one-night stands (aka playing with fire)
You're wise to avoid her:
- If she’s drunk or on drugs, NEXT.
- If you get any red flags that she’s not mentally stable, NEXT.
- If she speaks of being raped or sexually harassed before, NEXT.
- If you work with her and especially if you are her superior, NEXT.
Once the ball’s in play
The primary goal is to have evidence that proves the sex was consensual should she decide to change her mind after the fact. The secondary goal is to quell her desire to accuse you falsely.
- Record: Always covertly record the first few sex encounters (if more than 1) with your phone's audio recorder. “Put your phone on silent” and place it facedown next to the bed. Also, to be extra safe, include in your dirty talk some acknowledge from her that she wants it.
- Backup: Save your chat logs & recordings somewhere private and safe regularly. They may come in handy as evidence later.
- Be decent: After a one-night stand, don't just kick her out. If possible, take her for breakfast. Don't just pump & dump her because it increases the probability of negative feelings and revenge. Plus, what kind of victim has breakfast with their "attacker" the next morning?
- Be decent 2: If breakfast isn’t an option, text her the next morning with a question that’ll elicit a reply that the sex was consensual. Such as “What position did you enjoy most last night?” or “Let’s do it again sometime?” (Thanks DouglasPR).
- Be discreet: Don’t brag about banging her and don’t give details to others. If you do, you’re asking for a rape accusation so she can deny any social stigma (Thanks Auvergnat).
- Break-up politely: Not so important because if you’ve been spinning her a while there’s less risk, but when you’re done with the relationship, let her down easy. Don’t ghost her. Use some bullshit reason that gives her some closure to the relationship.
If the worst happens
NEVER admit anything, never apologise (it's an admission of guilt. Thanks MattyAnon), in fact, don’t say a word. This goes for any legal accusation in your life. Immediately, consult a lawyer.
Stay safe out there! SlaveToSelf-Made
Edit 27/5: updated with some of the advice in the comments.
kender42 6y ago
Tried to use it as evidence but was told by the judge I couldn't use it for evidence because of the afformentioned reasons and he even cited presidence
Luckyluke23 6y ago
the idea here is to, not leave a bad taste in her mouth after having sex.
once you do, that's how the hampster spins things into rape
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I better start drinking pineapple juice then.
OneRedSock 6y ago
Dirty Talk 2017:
"Yeaahh, you want my big dick in your tight pussy"
"Yeah, I do want that dick"
"Yeeahhh, you consent to getting fucked by this big dick."
"Mm yyeah"
"No, say: "I consent to getting fucked by your big dick"
"... I consent to getting fucked by your big dick"
"Great, mmm yeah -- please sign here agreeing to this consent. Oh, mmmm, that signature's so hot"
So this is pretty much where we're at as a society.
Luckyluke23 6y ago
i know i'm 27 and i'm getting old... but... the path society is going downhill pretty quickly.
SmellsLikeNostrils 6y ago
13 years ago, more relevant today.
thetrpthrowaway 6y ago
hahahahaha on point. I've got this crazy feminist friend who blames here whoriness on men - "They use me", "Everybody raped me". Fucking lunatic things about shit like that probably
I_Need_More_Space_ 6y ago
I think Dave Chapelle did a skit about this like 10 years ago. Dude is a smart man. He saw this shit coming a mile away.
ImHerWonderland 6y ago
This made me bust out laughing like an idiot.
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Snazzy_Serval 6y ago
Sexual consent form
185.29.203.11/joost/Seks/bronnen/Sexual_Consent_Form.pdf
OneRedSock 6y ago
Jesus Christ, the website at the bottom of that form is...wow.
"Loveology University" -- She has a doctorate in human behavior. Can we all agree on a heuristic that signals a sociologically based doctorate. Maybe "Sdr." instead of "Dr."; that way we can immediately disregard that person, instead of thinking they're a useful doctor?
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summerchris 6y ago
Did the creator of that form just assume I was having sex with only one partner????????ßßß
[deleted] 6y ago
I assume you also speak Deutsche from your eszetts, I do too.
summerchris 6y ago
ahahaha yes... that feel when you forget that no other language has it.
Snazzy_Serval 6y ago
Hah!
I think you need form B for threesomes and gangbangs.
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It was a joke when it was created (I say this back when I was in my late teens).
But now it's not a joke anymore.
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I saw one a while back on a web site. I'm at work so I'm not fighting my cell to post it. I can post after 9 central time though.
I kinda want some too. For some reason women find me funny when I bring shit like this up. They will get a laugh and probably check the box for anal or something.
If you play bit right it could be fun.
"why am I having you fill this out? You haven't seen 50 shades? Plus I don't wanna be on the hook for medical expenses when I break that ass".
She may laugh, but I am actually serious. If she signed a consent form then I will be more than liberal with the anal pounding. I ain't paying for that shit if she can't walk right.
Madeon929 6y ago
IM CRYING!!!????????????????
Indeed, men MUST protect themselves.
lancer000 6y ago
And always use protection.... Nobody wears a condom during a rape.....
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A small (crazy) part of me kinda wishes a woman would accuse me of rape. It would be the biggest mistake of her life.
Cause I would just remain silent, then release every video, text and voice recording of our interactions and show how she was a huge lying slut.
Of course feminists will still hate me. And people will say how I'm weird for having g cameras in my home. But I would t go to jail and suing for defamation would be fun indeed.
But I'm glad this is spreading. I've been saying this shit for years.
Treat her like she has the ability to lock you up with a word. So if she does, you're prepared. Cause she absolutely can ruin your life with a single word .
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Everyone here is talking about texting her the next day. Meanwhile I am remembering cases where the two had a decent relationship for months after the deed and texts didn't save the dude..
Wansnt this the case with mattress girl?
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DouglasPR 6y ago
I have a coleague that almost lost his job over a cheating woman. The husband saw their texting on her phone, she claimed she was being harassed. Luckly he had witnesses that she was all over him earlier.
surfnabitofturf 6y ago
These are also good tips on how to avoid raping someone, which is nice.
Sir_Distic 6y ago
Do you have problems avoiding raping someone?
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Banincoming 6y ago
In the 2 false accusations I've witnessed no sex occurred at all. And of course, after being proven false, no repercussions at all for the girls.
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
Absolutely. The accusation is either true in which case she's fucked up by it and you're in line for her revenge, or false in which case you're next.
And text her nice things too. Her replies might help your case... although there is now a feminist theory going round that "victims behave atypically and not as you might expect, in fact they can often be really nice and friendly and willingly meet up with their rapist again". Sadly the media believes this epic level of hamstering.
Say NOTHING to the cops ever. They want a conviction and they will lie to you to get it. An apology is an admission of guilt.
j0hnan0n 6y ago
Anything you say can and will be used against you. Anything you say to the cops that could, even IN THEORY, be used to help exonerate you is hearsay.
B_Campbell 6y ago
I never used to believe this could happen until I saw it happen to my friend. Went away to to a concert with a coworker. They spent the weekend together. Had sex. When they got back she told at their work everyone what a great time they had.
Two weeks later he boyfriend came home and suddenly he was dealing with a rape accusation. Some women would rather ruin your life then admit they cheated on their boyfriend. He was lucky there was a ton of contrary evidence but he did have to get a lawyer.
LedZeppelin1602 6y ago
Infidelity and covering it up is the number one reason for false rape accusations. Fortunately many women recant a few weeks later to prevent incarceration but the fact that these women wilfully destroy a mans reputation and put his safety at risk with little concern is fucking shockingly sociopathic.
It speaks to their attitudes to men
Auvergnat 6y ago
And this points out at the main thing you can do to avoid rape accusation, and that's missing from OP's list:
0. Be discreet. Do not brag around about your sexual encounter. Do not give details to anyone in your common social network.
Based on the stories I hear around, the number one reason women make false rape accusations is to cover up their social status or current relationships. She'll throw your entire future under the bus in order to save her social standing. By being very discreet about your sexual encounter, you seriously diminish the risks on her social status and as a consequence, you seriously reduce the chances she'll need to do something to cover it up.
[deleted] 6y ago
Yep. Most girls should come to your place alone when no one else knows about it.
That's why not shitting where you eat or in my personal opinion fucking around with girls in a close-ish social circle is a recipe for disaster. Specifically a drunk fuck.
Some random chick I meet at the bar that doesn't know me, my friends, etc. No way am I concerned.
I mean what could her friends even say? She was making out with some guy and left us and went home with him?
Andreas1871 6y ago
"If you work with her and especially if you are her superior, NEXT." This particularly. Even if it is not rape, it constitutes sexual harassment, and you will lose your job and possibly career and wreck the company you work for while at it.
Nihev 6y ago
Aha the smart tactic of can't be falsely accused of rape if you don't have sex
UnKnownSurviving 6y ago
Excellent advice. Definitely saving this for a reminder. I've been wanting to get a rape/divorce lawyer in case something like this happen. If a girl had consensual sex with me, yet the next day, she didn't like it, she could call the cops with bullshit accusations that I raped her. Right now, I'm working on my masculine fundamentals, planning to build my wealth, planning to go to school for more knowledge in my passions, and the first thing that comes to mind was Rape or Divorce Lawyer. I want to get legal protection before I get into any relationship or non-relationship as well. If a girl at school, accuse me of rape, when I never talk to her or didn't have any interest in the first place, I will destroy her, with everything I got. Sullying my good name, isn't to be taken lightly. I will fucking, destroy her and anyone else, that dare cross me.
Thanks to TRP, the World isn't rosy; people, by nature are cruel and evil.
"Lions in the Jungle, kill to eat, but Humans kill for fun"- Donald Trump, authored in THINK BIG & KICK ASS
Always be prepared. For anything....
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Better to be known as the ruthless asshole who destroyed a lying girls reputation, Than be the rapist ex con on the sex offenders list.
IngratiatingGoblins 6y ago
That's why it's important to never kiss and tell, ever. If she wants to blab about it, sure. But even if she does, and people ask you about it, refuse the conversation and say something like "that's private", "I never talk about that kind of stuff", etc. Especially if the person asking didn't hear it from the girl directly, but rather as a rumor, never even hint that they're right. Saying "well you'd have to ask her about that hehehe" is just as much of a confirmation as saying "yea we did that".
The benefits are twofold, it makes you more trustworthy to women who want something discrete, makes you look non-needy because you don't brag, and finally, if she regrets it or is embarrassed, no one will know so she won't have to explain herself.
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dgillz 6y ago
And text the next day if you're sure she'll respond positively. Maybe even get her to admit she liked it. Save that text forever. She is more likely to change her tune when she finds out she won't get another date with you.
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69SRDP69 6y ago
This is like a sub filled with Dennises from it's always sunny
I_Need_More_Space_ 6y ago
The D.E.N.N.I.S system of seduction. LOL
surfnabitofturf 6y ago
It is kinda funny that feminists all want affirmative consent, and this is like, pretty close to just getting affirmative consent and not having sex with a woman unable to consent.
Biggie313 6y ago
Always a good idea to text after she leaves telling her you had a good time, and get her to say it back, and save that forever.
IngratiatingGoblins 6y ago
This might not matter considering the computer illiteracy of the court system, but SMS messages can easily be faked if they're just stored on your phone or screenshotted. You can go to your cell provider and look up the metadata of the text message to confirm the time/date of the texts but they don't store content really.
I've been looking for some third party service that handles your SMS messages and stores them on the cloud, so you have proof you didn't just add a database entry to your phone. If you both have an iPhone with imessage, I believe that fits the bill, since the SMS messages are stored on Apple's servers, not just your phone.
On android it's tougher. You can backup text message databases, but Google doesn't have anything like iMessage. You'd have to pay for some third party cloud SMS service and use their app, etc.
landon042 6y ago
welp we've heard alot of bs before
"he made me have a happy breakfast the morning after"
"at the time texting him I didn't know what I was doing, later I realized I had been raped"
retard society
[deleted] 6y ago
Deny that recording if her demanding you pound her asshole?
I live in a one party consent state. I'm not fucking around anymore. My whole apartment is wired.
Biggie313 6y ago
Might not hold up legally, but still useful. It might be enough to get her back down if she is threatening
[deleted] 6y ago
Good reasons to avoid ONS, drunk chicks & ghosting.
I have considered going after Provider Hunters for easy lays. With my current status it would be pretty easy. Fear of this revenge stuff is part of why I don't.
One other thing is keeping solid Frame. If you're not monogamous, don't fucking act like you are. Don't act like Beta Bux just to get laid. Don't do beta boyfriend shit like text/call every day, etc. Don't get possessive or jealous.
It's unlikely to be necessary to next them. Some beta out there will offer them exclusivity, and they will next you. This is a good thing, it allows you to go get another plate.......just keep an eye on the firsts social media every very months. If she changes from "in a relationship" to "single", drop her a non-nonchalant line.
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This was so on point. FWBs are of magnitudes greater than ONS, drunk chicks, or ghosting a crazy. However getting an FWB like you said requires a strong frame so she knows you are not exclusive. It took me years to understand this.
cognitivecat 6y ago
Great advice. I think in some places recording can land you trouble. Like in my country recording a sexual act will land you in jail.
dgillz 6y ago
We're talking about recording a conversation, not making a sex tape.
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Why can't you record your kitchen, living area and bedroom?
If you always record those areas and happen to fuck there, is it still a sex tape?
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Thanks.
It'll land you in trouble anywhere if you release it to the public or use it as revenge porn. Where I'm from it's legal to record a conversation between yourself and someone else without their knowledge. Police do it all the time when collecting evidence in covert operations, and it's of course permissible in court. Plus in this case it's just an audio recording, not video.
kender42 6y ago
In the state of California in the US, it is illegal to record even a conversation without their consent first.
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Don't expect you to know the answer, but..
Let's say you tell everyone you meet that you record phone conversations.ike "Yeah I got an app that records conversations. Forgot what for but never deleted it".
Or you have a sign that states that "property is under surveilance".
Is that legal? Technically, you are up front and they know they are being recorded and still call/enter. So that's kind of consent.
kender42 6y ago
In California, it has to be on the recording that you are recording them and have their consent or it's not admissible as evidence. Learned this the hard way when I got divorced and me ex's bf told me if I didn't leave the house they would file rape and abuse charges. Got it all on an audio recording but couldn't use for the above mentioned.
Mister_Tayo 6y ago
Were you using the recorded evidence to defend actual rape and abuse charges that they filed?
kender42 6y ago
They didn't actually file them since I left right then. But I did tell my divorce lawyer.
icantbelieveiclicked 6y ago
I'd rather get in trouble for illegal recording though.
Also you should record yourself talking with them "just for fun" and get her agreeing to it on recording. Make something fun out of it like asking her to say how awesome your time together has been so you can play it back later or something.
Ex. Hit record, tell her hey I'm recording, say what you want me to hear for a ringtone when you call me. And now shes on the record acknowledging you are recording
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Wow, that's a shame. If it was me, I'd still do it anyway.
Everythings 6y ago
In Cali f you suspect a crime is to be committed you get a pass on recording.
Nullberri 6y ago
Its too bad recording someone who will falsely report a crime ins't really covered. Tho I'd rather goto jail for wiretapping than rape. Record it and tell your lawyer.
beachbbqlover 6y ago
Yeah, I'd rather record it and then let my lawyer sort out the details. Just don't go announcing that you have it recorded to everyone.
j0hnan0n 6y ago
Slander and damage of reputation isn't a crime?
ImHerWonderland 6y ago
My wife got me thrown into jail twice, made me lose everything to the court system and lawyers, lost my job in the military, and had me crawling home with nothing but debt because of false domestic violence accusations.
No, no one gives a shit about you being falsely accused. It sucks to be honest.
j0hnan0n 6y ago
I see what you're saying, but I'm not asking if people give a shit. I'm asking strictly whether slander and/or defamation of character are illegal according to current legislation.
ImHerWonderland 6y ago
I would imagine it depends on the state. Good luck winning that case in court though. I can't really give technical details on if it is or isn't perhaps someone else can.
IngratiatingGoblins 6y ago
I recommend getting a security camera for your house in general, like a nest cam. They have a plan that stores video footage for 30 days, and you can save a certain amount chosen clips footage forever. I'm NOT saying put the damn thing in your bedroom obviously, just in your living room or whatever.
You get double benefit of having increased home security, and also a month long record of almost everything that went on in your home. If she accuses you of something, you can prove what days she was over, and show both of your behavior, especially afterwards. If she starts going crazy, just stand in your living room in view of the camera, as proof you weren't doing anything if she says you attacked her or some crap if you go to kick her out.
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in all honesty, it's all about staying away from the crazies. unfortunately 25%+ have some sort of crazy.
deephurting666 6y ago
Shit like this is the reason I only hire prostitutes.. whores crying rape are about as rare as hens teeth!
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Yea be careful, some guy was killed for giving a prostitute bad oral. Prostitutes typically hang around very bad people. You dont want that shit sticking to you. People get "ideas". Not good ones.
deephurting666 6y ago
I read about that..fuck that I'm turning into a MGTOW monk! The juice isnt worth the squeeze ANYWHERE anymore!
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I feel you on that. Ill be squeezing for a while if you get my drift. Lasted this long. No reason to try and re assimilate into the world. I'll come out of my hole when the world turns around.
well-ok-then 6y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_lacrosse_case
vengefully_yours 6y ago
You can go full on begging for a sniff beta and she well lose interest fast. The best part is she still think it's her idea and you can nope right out of there. Can backfire, and should only be used for the crazy and clingy ones, but it works flawlessly.
DouglasPR 6y ago
next morning I usually text her: "baby, what was your favorite position last night?" or "lets do it again sometime?" or any kind of question that requires her to give proof of consent on her answers.
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TermsOfColors 6y ago
Damn this sounds like some kind of Jason Bourne spy thriller shit.
The best defense is to have a good reputation and plenty of people who will back you up on it. I know you guys spend a lot of time on the internets and watching TV or whatever but if it comes down to it it's going to be up to the 12 people in the box.
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TermsOfColors 6y ago
It seems overly paranoid, not to mention just plain impractical to try and record or document in some way every single sexual encounter. Whatever, knock yourself out.
beachbbqlover 6y ago
I'm not personally doing this. Then, I'm not plating or ONSing. I'm 8 years into an LTR.