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Blckclaw 6y ago
How do you deal with your self-esteem when you are surrounded with people who outperform you in many areas of life? I feel suicidal because I feel like a complete dumbass, being the worst performing student in my group, having problems with concentration and memory.
Profile_state2020 6y ago
Gf hasn't texted since yesterday. I sent the last text yesterday and she hasn't responded. Should I wait it out and let her text me? Or find out WTF is going on? Seems like a shit test to me, but IDK?
seaguy87 6y ago
If you're the one sweating over her whereabouts I have bad news for you, bro.
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PatrickIIDX 6y ago
How do I go into Monk Mode if I have to go to work to support myself everyday? I have to work in retail and put up with shitty blue pill music and on occasion see couple holding hands and shit. I know I should tune that shit out, but how the hell do I stop? I'm stuck.
meh613 6y ago
Would like some tips on taking care of my aspergers from an RP perspective, so any thoughts? I do belong to a gym, go there and lift 6 days/week (I suppose, if God could take Sunday off when creating the world, I can take Sunday off going to the gym); I read to learn and so have a binder full of notes from the Rational Male and Models.
suffercure101 6y ago
I came across as creepy while trying to be confident. This was months ago. This still fucks with my head. Once I put my hand around this girl jokingly whom I had just met and once I touched this girls arm and she was freaked out.
Every now and then I reminisce about those incidents and feel like a shit person for making them feel like that. Have you guys ever encounter something like this? Also got any advice?
kublakhack 6y ago
Yeah, I mean shit like that happens every once in awhile. The way to get over it is to focus on self improvement and your long term goals rather than worry about individual instances. A lot of guys here would try to break down these interactions into a scientific formula for why they didn't work, but the truth is you just weren't properly calibrated to the interaction that was going on. You should probably be looking for IOIs. If the social situation is risky for you and going to freak you out if you're rejected, then you should look for them to indicate some sort of interest first. Anyways, you'll be fine. The best thing to do in those situations is just to laugh and move on to something else IMO. As far now, get over it and see if you can increase your max on bench next week or learn how to ride a motorcycle or read a good book or take a coding class or whatever the fuck you are interested in.
suffercure101 6y ago
Hmmm... Atleast its good to know that other people go through this as well. Thanks for the advice. AI've been trying to focus on other stuff such as the gym, but this pops into my head whenever Im alone or about to go to sleep. I guess I will also look into meditation.
RedPharaohRising 6y ago
I want to know how to make platonic friendsships with women, because I tried to go from incel to player without knowing how to be normal around girls. I'm not trying to date right now at all, just to be myself, accept who I am and not feel ashamed of that around hot girls.
But right now, even if i'm just trying to open a convo with some cute chick at the cofeee machine I get nervous.
I don't know how to have female friends. Where do I begin
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Befuddled_Cultist 6y ago
I'm more of a fan of MRP because I think its interface is easier to use, but whenever I take a stroll around the Wyvern's Tail I feel like I am missing something. My friends tell me that everyone likes using TRP, but I just can't get into it. Are there some tricks to make it more user friendly?
VaginalFury 6y ago
When a girl likes you and you had a nice initial talk with her but then she transitions over to telling stories about unimportant shit from her life in a situation like when youre driving in a bus together and cant just walk away.. how to stop her early and show her politely that you are not interested in her girlfriend/orbiter bla bla ? I never know how to make it clear in such situations, especially when its a girl who i see everyday around?
blackedoutfast 6y ago
just start talking about something else. if she calls you out, say her story was boring. it will seem extremely rude and blunt, and if she thinks you're just another beta NiceGuy, this type of alpha behavior will trigger shit tests so be ready for that too.
Goddamnpanda 6y ago
It just tell her that it's not entertaining conversation to listen to her bitch and moan about shit you don't care about.
Peter_B_Long 6y ago
It may be that you do not have a 'fuckable' vibe. You may seem too 'nice'. Also, you need to set up a flirty / sexual vibe from the start. Introduce yourself, don't break eye contact, ask if she is riding with someone (the bus). Wait for her answer, she'll probably tell you where she's headed.
THE_StrongBoy 6y ago
Tell them to shut the fuck up, and use the correct tone which isnt serious and threatening but strong yet playful with a smirk on your face. she'll sploosh so hard it will make noise. if she doesnt your smv isnt high enough
Throwawaters 6y ago
For the people downvoting this guy, I agree though you can also pleasantly tease her and be less direct:
Zone out and stop listening for a minute, then act as if you wake up, look her straight in the eye, tell her you weren't listening at all. Ask her a genuine question or change the topic to something you DO enjoy.
Note: If you don't like the chick just accept the moment and do not meet up with her again, or tell her you need to return some videotapes.
Being honest can be refreshing, don't mind their feeeelings too much.
THE_StrongBoy 6y ago
we've got alot of blue pill boys on here who still think doing stuff like that is an atrocity. doesn't make a difference to me, people would have downvoted galileo too
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THE_StrongBoy 6y ago
What you need to do first is communicate your sexual desire in a way that you can gauge her reaction, and if its good just invite her over for dinner, eat, grab her ass, and slam.
what you really need to do first is cultivate a cool hobby that you can use to generate sexual attraction like a fusion reactor.
coffee dates and lookout points make me wanna puke, If you want to get a girl horny you have to show off your power and skill
for example, I surf and I sail, so all first dates are surfing or sailing. you get to tell her what to do which gets them horny, and you get to ignore her and do your thing which makes then horny, and you get to make fun of her for screwing up which makes them horny. I get them to rub coconut oil on my back cause its "good for the skin" on surf dates and they get to feel my sick back muscles which makes them horny, and I rub it on them and they get to feel your strong hands which makes them horny.
always hold eye contact and never break first.
there you go, you're welcome
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Shooting. You have to instruct, demonstrate, physically adjust, poke fun at ineptitude and then display serious value through proficiency with a weapon. Find a bar between the range and your place (location change) and escalate from there.
Respect the sport. Don't just buy a hi-point and bring a girl to a range if you don't know what you're doing.
Goddamnpanda 6y ago
I don't want to smash a girl who's impressed by a Hi-point.
Peter_B_Long 6y ago
cafe and lookout is good. The longer you've known her, the worse it is, cause she'll think you were a pussy for taking so long to ask her out. There's plenty of posts on TRP that will tell you the how's and when's. I think there was a really good one I read last week. Just search 'escalate' on the search bar and plenty of posts should pop up.
Don't plan the lookout. Don't tell her about it yet. Tell her to meet you at the cafe, talk a little, pass shit tests, try kino, and if you have a good gut feeling (like if you have your hand on her lap or waist and she's not pushing you away) then you can say, hey let's go to this lookout.
You don't want to go to the cafe with a girl who doesn't like you and doesn't let you escalate, and then waste more of your time going to the lookout cause that's what you told her you were gonna do. If you already told her about the lookout, just wait until you see how the cafe 'date' is going and then just follow through or just say, 'I've got to get going now, I'm supposed to meet someone, enjoy the rest of your day / night'
virgin_cuck 6y ago
I have improved a bit since finding TRP (2months) I can strike conversation with almost anyone if I want to, dont have problem with holding eye contact that much but I find it quite hard to hold conversation (I mostly do it by asking questions and getting other person to talk-for men)and also I seem to have problem with escalation when it comes to women any toughts about how to improve convo game both with males and females?
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ennui_no_nokemono 6y ago
Anyone have experience with Mormon girls? I've got this one sweetheart with the fresh off the plane look in her eyes waiting for me back in the states. Mormonism is bullshit but their women do seem well trained. She's a convert so she's really into it but I wouldn't have to worry about familial pressure to convert. Any experience dating Mormons?
I can't plate her since pre-marital sex is a no-no, but would spinning plates to satisfy my sex drive while dating her work?
Pro_Like_Me 6y ago
Well that only works if you plan on marrying the girl right?
ennui_no_nokemono 6y ago
I would date her to see if marriage is a possibility. Mormons have managed to keep a strong family structure and recognize men as the leaders of the house. I know a lot of TRP wants nothing to do with marriage but I'm still considering it if the girl is trained well enough. AWALT with hypergamy and what not but the fear of God can keep some women in line.
Goddamnpanda 6y ago
They still stray. Grew up Mormon, seen a guys wife of 18+ years fly away to a different state to be with her highschool sweetheart.
ennui_no_nokemono 6y ago
Obviously there's no sure thing. Mormon divorce rates are lower than average which is appealing.
Goddamnpanda 6y ago
Are you Mormon? A big part of that is that both people are firmly indoctrinated with Mormon idealism.
ennui_no_nokemono 6y ago
No and I wouldn't ever consider converting which raises the divorce rates from single digits to like 40% I think. The fact that she's a convert with no Mormon family members I feel would give some leeway but if the church controls her life it would be hell.
neurosissss 6y ago
How long have you been browsing TRP and to what degree do you feel it benefited you ?
I've been here for a week and I already feel more empowered than ever. Already started lifting as a direct consequence of this awesome subreddit.
Peter_B_Long 6y ago
Like 11 months. It's helped so much with my LTR. Helped me say no, helped me get the things I want. Helped me get much more sex without me even asking for it. Taught me how valuable it is to let go of any girl 'friends' you have if they aren't giving you any value. I used to have the paradigm mindset that any relationship is going to be hard, so at as well stick with my LTR no matter what because that is how relationships last and there will be arguing, fighting, negative feelings in every relationship I'm in (which is true, if I was still blue pill). Now I have the mindset that she's just some pussy, and I do not have to put up with her shit (there's less shit to put up with now). Every day I am okay with saying IT'S OVER if she breaches my boundaries.
I let go of some friends. I used to try to please everyone. Now I'm okay with having like 3 friends who actually give a shit about me.
rigbyismyhomie 6y ago
Years. Probably closing in on 4-5, but time is hard to gauge. This account is one year, and that's about how long I let an account build up. First lesson: don't let an account linger. If you're not endorsed (and you should not aim to be), get rid of it. Second lesson: go delete your fucking account. Keep an account for this sub, do NOT save passwords/access it from mobile. You have already set up a possible (if unlikely) doxxing scenario. Don't be an idiot.
The #1 benefit you can pull from this material is self-awareness. You have started lifting? Great. It probably won't last. But meditation? Meditation is a skill we practice everyday, increasing in intensity as we age. That's where wisdom comes from. Whether you take everything that's offered here or nothing at all, being able to run the experiences life throws at you through a particular thought process to determine possible causes for why things went right, and more importantly, why things went wrong, will benefit you in the long run.
Don't spend all your time here. Read the sidebar, don't submit to the general queue, and come back every once in awhile. Figure out the concrete things you can do with your life (lifting is one), but more importantly, figure out the train of thought we subscribe to. Good news, it comes naturally by reading the important material and, when the time comes, you'll think back to the words you've read here. Third lesson: after an absolute max of three months, leave and don't come back for awhile.
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My 2nd month on TRP was in April 2016, and it was probably the best month of my life. I had so much energy that I couldn't wait to get up, start lifting and start applying what I've read. March was cold and rainy, and it was during my initial "shock" phase (couldn't sleep for nights, couldn't eat, felt like shit). But in April I started digesting everything with ease and put things into practice. My body and my brain were working like crazy, I felt like I'm on some kind of drug like cocaine. I could approach and talk to a girl like it was nothing. I never, ever approached a girl before in my life, so it was an incredible experience. No approach anxiety, no overthinking, nothing. Once I was passing by a girl, and she placed her hand on her forehead. I immediately approached her and asked "hey, are you okay?" and used it as an excuse to start a conversation. I would strike up a conversation with a cute girl while waiting in a line for checkout in a supermarket. I could pick up a phone and make an inquiry about anything. Before that, I always resorted to email.
Unfortunately that enthusiasm started to fade after a few months, as I was getting nothing but rejections, ghosts and flakes. Even though I improved every aspect of my life, I simply couldn't get any result due to lack of social proof. This year things really started to go downhill. It took me around 10 minutes to gain courage to approach a girl at the bus station. And once I approached, I felt like I jumped into a pool of ice cold water. Fight or flight instinct kicks in, adrenaline rushes through my body and it's incredibly difficult to stay focused. A few weeks ago I saw a cute girl sitting by herself on a park bench, she looked like she was waiting for someone. I wanted to approach her, but I just couldn't do it. I couldn't make myself to get close to her and introduce myself. After 5 minutes, I finally got courage and came back, but she was gone. In April 2016, every failure gave me energy to push forward and try again, but right now every failure just undermines my confidence. I missed a few more approach opportunities this year, as I just couldn't make myself do it, and I'd always hate myself afterwards. Last year I couldn't wait to wake up and get out of the bed in the morning, and nowadays I can't make myself get out of the bed. 15 months of reading and applying knowledge without any results.
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What goes up must come down, I guess.
neurosissss 6y ago
You said you started lifting in April. How did that go ? Did you continue to sculpt your body or stopped at some point ?
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I never stopped lifting. I look amazing, I have a decent game but no social proof means zero success in my place.
neurosissss 6y ago
Maybe it's because you don't put TRP theories into practice ?
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neurosissss 6y ago
No man. you got it wrong. Started approaching girls with a different mentality and started lifting just this week as a result of getting into TRP.
I think this group is amazing.
EDIT: I just noticed that I already mentioned the lifting thing. The "vibe your getting from me" makes absolutely no sense.
Throwawaters 6y ago
About three years, took the red pill at 18, it transformed my life and is slowly making me the man I want to be.
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verily_rp 6y ago
I can't for the life of me recall what the page is or the source (not sure if it's heartiste or rationalmale or whatnot), but I do recall it's someone's recollection of helping some men or help in forming some male space in some therapy group. I don't think the guy was in the group himself, but he was explaining how women cause in-fighting between men in the article, and said how he told some of the men in the therapy group to collectively ignore women and keep self improving, and how this lead to a kind of male bonding, which also lead to a big raised their self esteem, and how the female therapists (or overseers or something) found this toxic despite their client's conditions improving because it didn't align to their female imperative.
Supreme kudos to anyone who can help me find it.
Goddamnpanda 6y ago
I too would like to read this.
17questionTRP 6y ago
If you're in a LTR, what are some things to remember (to maintain frame) when meeting the girl's friends for the first time?
Obviously, a LTR is a balancing act between alpha/beta traits. But I'm not sure how to play it in this instance.
Peter_B_Long 6y ago
You want them to like you (because girls are social and if her friends don't like you, she'll like you less), but don't bend over for them. Just try to be charismatic. Hold eye contact, listen attentively, you can tease a little but don't be flirty, cause then you'll be labeled as a douche or fuckboii.
You want to try and avoid her friends though. Don't try and be friends with them. Don't be friends with girls you aren't trying to fuck. Just be a leader. Lead the interactions and group activities and focus on having fun.
17questionTRP 6y ago
Really helpful advice. Thanks man!
InfoExploration 6y ago
Any tips dealing with guarded women who have been hurt and are distant, etc, etc...
There is this really hot girl I'm talking to but she wont crack. She is interested and I would bet my life on that but she seems stiff and guarded. Any advice on these women?
THE_StrongBoy 6y ago
my advice is to get other girls who aren't hurt and distant, you probably already have oneitis
abundance mentality solves every problem
answer me honestly, if you had 2 other hot girls who were smart, funny, playful and a blast to be around would you even try with that chick?
everytime I get laser focused on one girl I force myself to game a different girl and it never fails to make me forget her
InfoExploration 6y ago
Good idea. She's just really hot. The oneitis is a strong enemy with a hot girl with huge tits.
Goddamnpanda 6y ago
No girl is attractive enough to put up with her baggage.
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For guys who have red Sex God Method, help me understand how to balance the Emotion pillar with still be stoic and unphased, especially with first time girls and newer plates. I'm not gonna tell these chicks I love them, which is often the example that Daniel Rose uses.
I am a stoic, rather unemotional (outwardly) guy, and need advice on how to implement this Emotion aspect of SGM with girls that I don't know well and am not emotionally close to.
Chunk360x 6y ago
Does anyone know of any other 'self improvement' style subreddits? Thanks
DetectiveJohnKimbel 6y ago
My post got removed before but
Meditation
Seduction
Socialskills
Asktrp
Fitness
Malefashionadvice
Malehairadvice I think too
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BigBankBaller 6y ago
In a LTR, if you're with your girl and she is upset about something emotional (like she claims she feels like shit or something) and she's crying and all that, what is the best way to approach this?
Some of the options i've considered are to ask her about her problems, or try to offer solutions, or to just sit there and hold her and be a rock.
tylertgbh 6y ago
When girls tell you their problems they don't want solutions, they want sympathy.
Throwawaters 6y ago
The book "The Rational Male" has a chapter on this if I remember correctly.
The author advised to physically bring her back into a positive vibe, your positive world: hug her, pick her up, tickle her, tease her, make her smile and let her know in a playful way that you and her are going to have a good time and you won't be having none of the crying and sobbing.
Basically: how would you stop a kid from crying? You make it smile in between the crocodile tears, wipe em off and go get some icecream.
RogerSterrling7 6y ago
Be a rock. Let her whine about her problems with her girlfriends and orbiters. You just be a rock to her and fuck her good, you'll see she will be happy in no time.
Peter_B_Long 6y ago
Sit there, hold her, and be a rock. That is correct. All you have to do is listen and be attentive.
Then once she gets everything out, go do something. Get her mind off it and focus on having fun. You want to be her escape. It can be having great sex, going go-karting, walking on the beach or going to a museum.
If she says that she doesn't feel like doing anything, just drop her off at home and tell her that you hope she feels better. Don't stick around for too long.
deepthrill 6y ago
Girls don't want you to offer solutions. They want you to "empathize" and just "hear" them and "feel" what they're feeling. Irrational, I know. Your brain is wired to find practical solutions.
So what you can do is to ask questions, to draw out the root cause. Then you disguise your suggestions as questions.
If your girl is smart enough, she'll realize that you have given her all the tools to destroy Becky's career. And yet by not offering suggestions, by simply asking questions, you defend yourself against attacks that "I didn't want you to fix it, stop trying to fix it! I want you to listen! Waaaaa!"
Remember: It's not about the nail https://youtu.be/-4EDhdAHrOg
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great insight and I often need to remind myself:
Dont be Mr Fix it. Instead, offer 5 minutes of a sympathetic ear and inside be happy that other people's problems arent my problems. Its liberating really.
THE_StrongBoy 6y ago
my fave line is "keep your problems to yourself, you're suffocating me" and leave for a while.
spez: I swear to god if anyone finds out there, in all of the knowledge and data and anecdotal evidence where listening and being attentive is the correct move, and gets some ec's to agree with that ill give everyone who comments on this thread $100.
these comments are complete dogshit
puke
I haven't been on for like 7 months and this shit is getting espoused?
sure tell people that being an emotional tampon is the right move
I mean we are getting popular and so this kind of this is probably inevitable lol
Peter_B_Long 6y ago
dang man, ever heard of comfort tests?
Beeinkc9 6y ago
I work in an almost 100% female environment. Every one of them thinks they're my boss. How can I cope? Not trying to bang anybody.
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Salted_Pretzel 6y ago
Two questions. When holding frame, is it just being stoic and not showing any emotion? Whenever I think of frame I imagine someone getting to to me at work via talking shit or something and I have a blank expression the whole time, not taking the bait of the insults and lashing out in response. Second question is, how does one build a interesting life? I know there is hobbies and whatnot but Im overwhelmed by the amount of things out there. Where to start?
Throwawaters 6y ago
Read the sidebar for some tips on frame.
Eye contact, inner piece, abundance mentality and self-acceptance are key to frame.
Also: lift AND practise hand to hand combat for REAL confidence.
As for building an interesting life: Make a list however long as you like with anything YOU want to do in your life and start with the things that scare you most. Tango lessons, saxophone, krav maga, visiting paris, climbing a mountain, running a marathon, asking out a girl, public speaking, investing, stand up comedy, karaoke, whatever the fuck seems fun.
Make your list, relentlessly persue the bullet points and live your life.
Pro_Like_Me 6y ago
advice for both questions. just be yourself and do you
sj2k 6y ago
I typed the wordy response below out and then re-read your question and realized I didn't answer the hobby-specific question. My advice is to just pick one, try a new class and give it a shot for 2 months. Once you have a handle on that, pick a new one and give that a shot for 2 months. After a year, you will have conversational experience in 6 new hobbies. Here's a good thought for motivation: what if you had started a year ago and could talk intelligently about 6 hobbies today? I also whole-heartedly believe in the below advice and it's helped me become a much more well-rounded person:
Let me start with question #2: 7 Habits for Highly Effective People advises on making a weekly planner and splitting your life into roles like student/employee, friend/social, boyfriend/bachelor, physique, most interesting man, etc. I have about 6 roles. From there you "sharpen the saw," or work on improving in each role by setting weekly goals in each (I do this on Monday mornings). These goals are geared towards long term goals like work promotions, having a six pack, traveling to 2 new destinations every 6 months, multiple social circles, etc. The weekly goal might be workout 4x, try a free rock climbing class, plan a 4th of july trip, reconnect with an old friend, etc. Make progress and get after it each week, and after even as little time as 3 months, you will be well on your way to being the attractive, successful, interesting man you want to be. You'll see your success after so little time and want to go even further--setting loftier, more challenging goals. I've been doing this for a year and the goals I'm setting today would have been absolutely insane a year ago.
Question #1 regarding frame becomes a hell of a lot easier after you get to work on #2. My understanding of maintaining frame is remembering that you're the shit and the baiting insults & shit tests are just amusing. Nothing can phase you because your inner confidence comes from hitting your goals and loving yourself, not from the opinion of some drunk chick you've known for 2 mins or even a relative whose life is a mess. The things you value will change, and the opinion of most people won't even be on your radar.
Salted_Pretzel 6y ago
I like the idea of splitting things up into different categories. The thing about all this is that I'm in the process of fixing my life. Saving money to get back into school. I could be wrong but some these high value hobbies cost a lot money. It sounds cool but has your priorities every conflict with your life? I'm in that boat. The obvious one is to get my career started and live a prosper life but I feel like I'm missing a lot in life.
sj2k 6y ago
For sure. Try to make progress in each role, but you can certainly focus the majority of your efforts on one role for a time period. Lifting was a constant but I started my focus on work because I had a review in 4 months, and then got a promotion. I didn't want the raise to go to waste, so I got really into budgeting & investing. After I was saving a decent amount per month, I knew I had to start playing with the money and planned trips & started new hobbies. As challenges become manageable, you'll feel empowered and want to take on more. When it comes to that, just decide which area of your life you'd like to work on most.
I think you just need to decide what kind of life you want (for me it's excellence in every area of my life) and then set the goals & milestones to get there. From there, execute the daily & morning routine you'd need to meet those goals. It won't happen overnight, but it will happen sooner than you think.
A_q_w_e 6y ago
I'm going off to college in the coming months, with a fresh start, and I was wondering what are some good resources in terms of text game and cultivating relationships in terms of males and females alike. I have been an 'omega' male for a long time, but have become a loner for most of this year due to what was left of my reputation being damaged, with no relationships outside of my immediate family. This means I am out of tune of social dynamics in person, as well as texting with both genders alike.
azonian91 6y ago
2 questions:
What are the texting rules? I've heard generics tossed around from post to post. Any dedicated posts or reads concerning texting?
as always, advice appreciated brothers
Cft313 6y ago
1) texting is for setting up dates and times. Otherwise it's pretty useless, I enjoy face to face interactions or phone calls much more and it gets the point across better. Texting is filler and she will get bored quickly.
2) treat them like children, like any other female except you're end goal isn't to fuck them (unless you're in the south and into that kind of thing)
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Metalgear222 6y ago
220 at a lean 12-14% body fat is about right. Lofty goal, but with the right nutrition and training. 4 years and you'll be there naturally.
THE_StrongBoy 6y ago
Personally, and this is opinion, hitting your genetic limit with regards to muscle mass and then keeping it lean would be the right bodyweight for asthetics and functionality
if you arent competing it doesnt matter the number, just how you look really
don't be afraid to bulk and gain a little body fat. Its why alot of people see slow gains
Cft313 6y ago
I'm going to a music festival in a month and was wondering if anyone had any tips or pointers when hitting on girls in that kind of environment.
I know I'll already have a multiple woman mindset considering there's 40,000 people there if a girl isn't interested within 10 minutes I have hundreds more in my vicinity that I can go for but what about drugs? I don't want a girl under the influence who won't remember me in the morning.
Any advice is appreciated.
kublakhack 6y ago
I've had success in that environment by hyping up the guys and girls around me before a show starts. Telling everyone how epic the night is going to be and putting everyone in a positive mood. Suddenly you're in the hype section of the crowd that everyone wants to be because you helped everyone get there.
Music festivals are honestly pretty easy to meet women at for the weekend. Just talk to them and be excited about having the once in a year vacation that you are having and they will want to be a part of it if they find you attractive. I would just focus on having fun with the friends you are with and chatting up the girls that are convenient to you and see what happens. Those that are available are going to be looking for cool guys to party with and those that won't will be friendly and then go back to their groups they are with.
brettfromtibet 6y ago
Study part 1 and part two of this videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4eBS-DD9u8
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blackedoutfast 6y ago
all of those guys are alphas, the one who is in charge will vary in different environments.
Deapluv 6y ago
There are a lot of ways to be "Alpha"... all are correct. is Jim Morrison or JFK more alpha? No need to overthink it, look at the trend line....
Skkception 6y ago
How do you deal with "commands" or requests from girls? E.g "pass me that" "bring that" "can you give me that" I tend to jokingly make them say please although I still struggle with that when it comes to girls I've recently met. But when I say things like "What's the magic word?" it usually gets dragged out quite a bit, almost to a point where I seem stubborn and childish. I suspect it's because my SMV isn't high enough. How do you hold frame in these situations, or do you even bother to care about it and just silently do what they ask/"command"
Deapluv 6y ago
No need to overthink and be weird about it. You can just pass them the salt. You can also toss it to them to catch, or hold it up high to tease them, or continually pass them the comically wrong object, generally tease and have fun, not scold.
THE_StrongBoy 6y ago
abundance mentality solves every problem. if you genuinely don't care how a girl feels about you because you have a waitlist lined up you can do anything you want and it doesn't matter.
so yeah you do that by cultivating your smv and don't be afraid to tell her that you are gonna go find a girl who isn't so bossy.
most things girls do are to test you in one way or another, but sometimes passing the salt is passing the salt
if you have the smv, and abundance give her the good dick and don't sweat the small stuff, it usually just falls in to place - and you don't care if it doesn't. Sounds like heaven doesn't it
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Is it possible to have any kind of social proof nowadays without presence on social media? I'm in graduate school, and everyone just wants to become an Instagram celebrity. Guys are posting photos from gym, nightclubs or their cars, girl are posting photos from the swimming pool, beach, bathroom selfies etc.
Social proof is everything, and it looks to me that in order to maintain it you need social media. I'm eavesdropping to conversations of girls from time to time, and most of the time they're browsing social media and gossiping, or they are just talking about Instagram.
ennui_no_nokemono 6y ago
As a 20 yr old guy, I don't agree with deleting all social media even though it's mentally healthier. Your Instagram/Snapchat are previews into your life for women. Don't overuse them, you're not a woman. But I think conscientious use of social media to show women your value through your social groups/hobbies is good social proof. Just don't fall into the validation trap. And have more followers than following. 600 followers and 400 following is more impressive than 1000 followers 1000 following. Social media is a tool like any other that can be utilized for sexual strategy.
noimnotgreedy 6y ago
Any reason why there's such a stark contrast between some posts here? Sometimes I read a post that the bottom line is "WOMEN ARE XYZ LOLOL", and that's in start contrast to the LAID LIKE A WARLORD post. It didn't have shaming in it, it didn't have some sort of divine instructions on what to do, it was mostly yet another confidence post without using the word confidence.
It just feels like there's two distinct crowds here, people who could be the same bros you've had laughs with, got drunk with, all kinds of shit you do with friends.. then there's some passive aggressive people who any self-respecting person would just go away and tell them you won't take their shit.
Goddamnpanda 6y ago
There are two distinct types of men here. There's a crowd of bitter misogynists that make posts after post about "AWALT" and then there's the men that grasp the fact that redpill philosophy is less about hating women and more about understanding that things are the way they are and that becoming a better man is the way to go. The guys in the former camp are the same ones that keep making posts lately offering themselves up as an example of blue pill/beta behavior.
SoulRedemption 6y ago
I am.truomg to overcome a challenge. Due to the way I pay attention to people (mainly guys, not chicks cuz its different) when people either speak about a topic, about themselves etc, I have fallen into the "listener" type. People who know me really well tend to ignore or even interrupt alot when I am speaking. Multiple times I point out I haven't finished or won't let the interruption take over. But at times I realize they stop just paying attention all together. This happens mainly with the good friends circle, there are other circles with friends who will actually listen and reciprocate. Any advise on how to tackle these situation?
Arabian_Wolf 6y ago
Interrupt in civilized way, I had similar issue as you and the best solution was to interrupt them through saying "Not to interrupt you, but...", or, if they interrupt me I say "Please let me complete..." or say the former, works most of the time and if doesn't work mostly the person is complete jerk or just being in emotional euphoria.
spetz994 6y ago
How would you approach a girl that works in a bar? There is this girl in the bar were i usually go, i would like to ask her out or at least enstablish some kind of relationship that goes beyond "i would like an espresso"
How would you guys do it?
PS: i don't know if this matter but i'm 6'0 198lbs and i've been going to the gym for more than a year, plus i'm new on this sub
seaguy87 6y ago
As a rule of thumb (I'm sure guys successfully game bar girls) I would say that you shouldn't outright try to game service/wait staff. These people are paid to interact with you in a friendly manner (they have to be nice to you) and gaming them outright won't work. Why? If she works in a bar and is anything of a looker, she gets gamed. All. The. Time. You have to build rapport then ask to meet somewhere, some other time. You have to game her in a different environment. Isolate then game her.
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THE_StrongBoy 6y ago
I'm gonna reply to this obvious bait because its an interesting theory that i've thought of myself quite a bit.
First of all, the anecdotal evidence is overwhelming in favor of us. Anyone who tries to dispute that we have found an empirical way to get girls to spread it is merely delusional.
but to entertain this theory, its true - there are born alphas and born betas albiet more betas now than ever due to social conditioning.
what you don't understand is that a chad isnt his physical features, but his strong personality. Thousands of tall handsome beta boys cry in the gutter everyday because they've been left by girls who got wet when some 5'7 schlub told them to shut the fuck up.
I will absolutely say that you can never really get to the level of a natural alpha. I know a few and its absolutely beautiful to watch. It doesnt matter tho because I achieve as good or better results than them, which leads me to believe that the redpill alpha is on a similar level, with a much different style. When I was just learning I felt super formulaic in my game etc.
not only that but we have a huge edge over them in the long term, due to our awareness of how it all works and how human sexuality plays out over time.
natural alphas will allow themselves to get married, have kids, become betas and die a slow death, whereas a redpill alpha would not.
so all in all this point is definitely worth thinking about but really has no validity.
don't reply I wont answer lol
Budfox_92 6y ago
TRP is all about self improvement if you can be a Chad fine if not you will still improve yourself along the way
Perrero 6y ago
That is a woman's definition of a Chad, which fluctuates as violently as her moods. Then goes and fucks the first nasty old broke man she finds at the bar that makes her hamster tingle. The point of this sub is self-improvement, not self pity.