Intro: This is a sort of pseudo compilation with the common mistakes and misconceptions usually done by newcomers and amateurs on the game.
Body:
The Alpha mentality(“an alpha does whatever he wants whenever he wants”)
The quote above is usually repeated a lot, it is not wrong, but it is NOT what makes an alpha to be alpha, it is a consequence of being an alpha, because at the end betas are doing what they believe is right. The consequences of getting this mentality wrong are:
Texting too often (becoming her text buddy):
-Because you are an “alpha” and you feel like texting her so you do and have a long conversation with her through the phone. Wrong, I suggest reading Woujo’s posts on neediness and the emotions you need to keep in check.
I enjoy texting, but I learned the hard way it is better to not have a constant chit chat with girls through the phone.
Forgetting about game:
-Lately there is a trend where people say “just say you think she is cute”, this might be good for guys with anxiety that cannot approach, so they can “train themselves” to be outcome independent. You do not need a complicated/funny/clever Opener, but if you have a good Opener that can maximize your results with her (getting into her pants) that would be great.
-Models was a great read, but people usually confuse the word “vulnerability” (no being needy) with “show emotional weakness”. Telling her about your depression, problems and existential questions will not help you out. Chill dude, remain calm and keep your emotions in check(as Roissy said: you need to be an unshakeable oak tree).
-Smiling too much. I will get a lot of negative opinions on this one. The Endorsed contributor that recently made a post on the sadness phase (the girl with the Sad eyes) has a post on that and was down voted to the oblivion. Also Roissy from Chateau Heartiste did a post on that, basically stating that “not smiling at the beginning is bad and smiling too much during the interaction is also bad”. There is a difference between a genuine smile (because you are really happy) and a socially fake smile which usually seeks approval from others like a dog. I am not joking, try it yourself and keep it balanced.
-Remember what you’ve read on body language, do not lean, slow down, she is there is qualify herself to you; chill. She wants to chase you, be a challenge. When you apply all of this at the beginning is like putting a cheat code to a video game, you will say to yourself “I cannot believe this is working” but then you learn to accept it and it becomes part of you.
Getting experience the wrong way:
I know the feeling, you want experience with girls, hell, you are even willing to fail hard and that’s good, but the first couple of times when you get a girl to like you, you mess up everything by hamstering things like “I will text her, I will tell her my problems, I will be emotional, I will always be available for her, I will save her and emotionally invest on her” just because you want to gain experience with girls and you “want to test the theory yourself to see what happens” and then you go the AskTrp sub to complain. This is not rocket science; the laws are on this sub and have been repeated a lot. Keep applying them; hold your frame.
Fucking a girl you do not like.
I had an experience with a girl that I wish it to no man or woman. This chubby girl was hitting on me; I was in dryspell for a couple of weeks so she invited me to fuck. I said yes, but I was not attracted to her. So when we got together and she tried to kiss me it was disgusting, she did not smell, but her natural smell and breath was nasty for me. I was trying to avoid her, but she kept sticking her tongue on my mouth to the point I wanted to throw up and I had to think about other girls.
She rides me for a while and then I could not get it up; I took the blame and made up an excuse that these condoms are too thick etc, so we better leave. So we did. I believe she is emotionally ok. But if you are ever in doubt as a male to fuck a girl (because she might not be attractive enough for you) I suggest you to not do it.
I just wonder if I had ever been that disgusting for a girl in the past. However, that day, I made a promise to myself: I will do my best in the gym, I will not be needy ever again(because that shit is dangerous), I will be a sexually attractive male.
Try to have a nice personality too.
*Not lifting (how can some people hamster themselves into going to the Asktrp sub and asking if they should go to the GYM).
I met this girl on Tinder and…(?)
Reading and reading and not applying the knowledge in your everyday life.
Conclusion: Remember your training soldier.
setsuna0 6y ago
All my friends give me shit for not fucking ugly women when I have a certain standard. I'm not trying to force it with someone I'm not into at all. Even if I'm in a dry spell
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As someone who is climbing the ladder himself, I can say that you get better and better as you recognize this fact: Your goal is to be a man whom other men want to be and other women want to be with. Lifting, career success and social status are all part of this; but if you start chasing a girl, or start waiting on the phone for an answer that you wish for, you are doing it wrong. Girls do not matter. They are a play thing. Even your hairy bros matter more than them. Stop being a slave and start living your own life.
SasquatchMcKraken 6y ago
You'll lose shit chasing women but you'll never lose women chasing shit. Whether that shit is your money or your mission.
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Chase a check, never chase a bitch. Dripomelthazieneeeee
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circlhat 6y ago
Plus understanding women in fact that is the main point of the site
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We should invest in our masculinities, this will solve the problem. I think, we fail to recognize our true nature and that is why we try to define ourselves regarding to what we are not. We focus on our opposites and try to deduct how we should act from how we should not act. I think real men do not care about what women want or think. They focus on what they want and so on... Of course, we cannot act this way, because we are taught to be non-masculine and this harmed us a lot. However, your final goal should be reaching this point.
SasquatchMcKraken 6y ago
Solid. Though I hate texting with the passion of a 75 year old curmudgeon. Family and friends is one thing. But a chick you're trying to smash? That's a monkey-dance I'm not willing to do. If you're not using it primarily to set up a face-to-face encounter then you might as well write the bitch a letter.
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Good vocab word with curmudgeon, but this is actually genius advice.
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Whoa. Ive been doing this wrong for so long now. Ive been hitting girls up on fb and basically becoming a beta text buddy that is needy and gives a fuck. Wow, my mind is literally blown right now. Im gonna try these techniques and let yall know how it works. I used to always think all this advice was bullshit and that you either had "game" or you didnt. But now I KNOW game is a skill that is learned and honed, ive just been doing the wrong thing over and over again. Sociology of gender really fucked my brain up lol
DesconocidoUK 6y ago
Texting thing isn't accurate.
You can build connection and flirt through text. It's another test. However if you're shit at being interesting and witty via text then better not to bother. And as a caveat don't be consistent and predicable with the fun chit chat, ie same time every night. Drop random texts, have short and long little chats here and there. Go quiet for a night etc. As long as it's not needy it's fine to text and can help you a lot. And don't try to be "funny" like a clown, it's subservient. Be witty and poke fun at her.
ShavedApel 6y ago
|A guy with only elder sisters, will turn into an omega.
Any guys here with only older sisters raised by single mothers and how much older?
Fraita 6y ago
Grew up with "2" moms and two girl cousins. (same age and 5 years older)
No i didn't have two moms, they are twins and none of them have a male in their life since 20 years back. So they decided to move in togheter for economic reasons.
I can talk to any girl (dosen't matter HB-rank) "good" if you ask a beta-guy. But I've probably got friendzoned like 20, if not more, times in my life... Even had guys tell me that they are jealous of my socialskills with hot bitches, but they've not been in my shoes and get friendzoned by everyone...
I've slowley been crawling out of the feminine traits that i've received from living with four womens.
Shadowduh 6y ago
I have two older sisters but my mom wasn't single, super beta bucks dad though. My (Older)sisters are both three years older than me and I was pretty much Chad throughout schooling. Once depression kicked in I became pretty omega but only cause I had lost interest in sex.
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Red585 6y ago
Michael Phelps, the greatest Olympian ever was raised by a single mother and had older sisters
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BargainBinBoyfriend 6y ago
I don't know how your hamster hasn't had an aneurysm already... flipping out after a few hours??
groupof7 6y ago
no idea how "lets go out next week" is needy. someone wanna explain?
maybe its an age thing, i have to plan in advance.