We moved in around the start of the year. She's an engineer because she wants to find a rich engineering husband, AWALT, at least she's open about it.
She comes home one day and says that she was the first to finish a test in programming, but misspelled some things in the program that caused her to get a 0%... because it didn't work. So she goes in and cries to the teacher and the teacher gives her 80% and tells her not to tell anyone.
Fast forward....
She doesn't clean up a lot of arbitrary shit around the apartment, but she's getting on my nerves so I stop cleaning them up- things like Keurig cups or those milk tabs on the counter or wrappers. This wasn't a big deal to me, but she was annoying.
As the mess starts to pile up, she texts me one morning saying that she's sorry for not cleaning up anymore, but that she has been unmotivated and can't find the energy to do anything (aka depressed) and she's going to the ER to find out why. I stood there for a second and then realized that holy shit she just apologized to me for me not cleaning up for her anymore. It hit me, she has no fucking idea what's going on. She actually thought she was cleaning the apartment the whole time, but never had, NOT ONCE.
Now it's finals week. She told me she failed all of her finals, but that she told her teachers she's been feeling depressed so she got another month to study and then get to take them again! What the fuck. I would have never even thought of asking my teachers for something like that, based on principle. If you can't do your major properly, learn to do it, take the fail, and proceed to do okay later in life.
So when they say that women make up most of the college graduates, it's just not the same. On numerous other occasions I've witnessed her being treated like a princess. Yet another time, she took too much xanax and got drunk the night before an exam, couldn't function because she was too high, failed, told her teacher about the xanax and he said she could have the weekend to study and take it on Monday. She proceeded to get drunk the whole weekend with her other "engineering girls" as I saw them pull all nighters eating pizza and throwing paper airplanes in the library for fun and called it studying. Fuck, most of the girls I know get drunk to study because there's a pub in the same building as the library, for only god knows what reason.
I guess I could go in now and ask for special treatment, maybe I would get it. The difference is that I won't. It's morality and thoroughness in my life.
truthproprietor 6y ago
Having a pussy + going to Engineering school = easy life
yomo86 6y ago
I worked for a professor as a TA who had a reputation for being a fair hard-ass. But while he dismissed - rightfully so - the excuses of men like their dog died and they had to get to the vet aka pest control proof included or a family emergency, he was very eager to accept shit like I am on my period. This was the narrative hard at work.
If people enable that kind of behavior they will continue. I fired several employees for various reasons while all the men accepted it either as fair or unfair, the ones who complained and then begged and even threatened were women. I will never get a HR department, and women get jobs only if they proved that they can do the work.
Eastuss 6y ago
Everything you don't dare to ask is just lost.
University is a joke. Do everything to cheat your way through it, your real value is not a fucking worthless paper. Aiming for management career? Technical detail aren't worth it. Aiming for technical career? You get more details online than from an old has been engineer. You can't listen or focus for more than 1hour, why would you attempt a 4 hour long course.
This girl understands everything or just is natural at it. She is maybe not smart but she works smart.
BobbyPeru 6y ago
Careful of covert contracts. Clean because you like to have a clean place. Do it because you want to and no other reason. Then, you will have no regrets about something so petty as cleaning. Own your own shit, and accept AWALT
Don't get stuck in the anger phase
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That's what I was doing, I thought that by not cleaning up the little things she would notice how she was leaving them out. I was wrong, back to basics.
TangoZulu 6y ago
You were being passive aggressive. If you want her to pick up after herself, tell her so in no uncertain terms. Create a clear boundary and she'll have less of an opportunity to manipulate.
BobbyPeru 6y ago
I think you missed my point. Cleaning up should have nothing to do with her. You clean because you went to clean.
bolupua 6y ago
I ain't cleaning any bitch shit.
BobbyPeru 6y ago
And that's a valid option too :-)
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Landry86 6y ago
She obviously doesn't have a father or any strong male figure in her life if she is allowed to live with a guy like that. My grandfather would flip...
Docbear64 6y ago
In a world where we expect a man to save up 3 months salary for a ring just for the privilege to take on debt for a massive party in honor of a woman and then penalize him if the woman eventually becomes unhappy , has children, or in the worst case both why is this surprising ?
We have to protect our girls right ?
GroundhogLiberator 6y ago
That's a really well written argument against marriage. it sounds insane when you put it like that.
godfatherchimp 6y ago
Except you don't need to do any of that when you get married
CallMeHaseo 6y ago
Keep in mind that same woman has smashed 9,12,15+ different dudes
richardnorth 6y ago
Not sure if you're joking about 9, 12, 15 but that's very VERY low.
twatbutters 6y ago
But... but... past is the past!!!
HighPiracy 6y ago
Lol pretty low numbers you're imagining there
Noramia 6y ago
Double digits. That's really optimistic man.
vengefully_yours 6y ago
You might think so, but its more. Lots more.
lopsidedlucky 6y ago
She smashed 15+ in highschool bro. By college she's on her way to quadrupling that number. Seriously, on tinder they fuck a different guy several times a week when they're in the mood. Even the dorky 6's and 7's.
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Landry86 6y ago
It wouldn't surprise me that the prettier girls aren't as promiscuous because they don't need the sex as a crutch for their insecurities. Every girl I know who is a slut is mediocre-looking and my prettier friends aren't sluts at all and never were. In fact, most of them they are married
CallMeHaseo 6y ago
Dude what scares me the most is how much these girls sit there and lie about it.... Like you can't trust anyone.. and societies become so gynocentric to the point that as a man if you don't want to wife a girl who's swallowed gallons upon gallons of RAW NUTT... YOURE the problem not her...
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Nobody should want that either, multiple partners ruin a persons ability to pair bond, it also decreases self esteem and mental well-being (hence why gynocentric society wants you, Cpt. Save A Hoe TM). Where I think this sub goes wrong is when they go full Islam, you cant coerce people and be violent.
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godfatherchimp 6y ago
Why? It's just a business trying to make more money. You don't get mad at a fish for swimming do you?
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godfatherchimp 6y ago
Wanting to destroy things that personally offend your worldview is the chimpanzee part of the brain in action
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godfatherchimp 6y ago
Sure. I was talking about getting mad about it at all
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godfatherchimp 6y ago
Yes I was. I said you don't get mad at a fish for swimming
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TheRedStoic 6y ago
Yup. Watched it all through school. Completely accurate.
The ones with a work ethic unfortunately, don't stand out either, so it makes it seem that much worse and it's already very bad.
These people will go into myriad positions with hard quotas and fierce competition, then men will have to pick up their slack.
When they don't get promoted them scream glass ceiling and be promoted into obsolescence, ruining an entire division and multiple projects to come. When everything crashes around them, they'll inevitably blame the men for not stepping up, and claim more women are needed in the management positions and staff.
It continues.
Believe it or not, I'm not bitter about this, men allow this to happen. So I went entrepreneur instead. Now it's not my problem. I even employ a few girls since we use initiative based pay. I don't care if you're a girl, a guy, or an attach helicopter if you're crushing at work and not ruining the work climate.
But anyone who doesn't is welcome to search for a new job.
TheSlicemanCometh 6y ago
This is college people. Its not a place of higher education. Its a fucking vacation where you pay out the ass to go fuck and party.
COLLEGE. IS. A. SCAM.
godfatherchimp 6y ago
My starting salary at my job was 20% higher than my boss's current salary, entirely because I have a Bachelors degree he only has an Associates degree. How is that a scam?
TheSlicemanCometh 6y ago
Say your boss got no degree and got the job right out of high school and makes 30% less than you and your degree took 5 years and 100k expense.
Over the course of 30 years, he will have earned more money. It's called opportunity cost.
godfatherchimp 6y ago
That wouldn't happen because it's not a right out of high school job. The only way anyone can do what I do without some type of post high school degree is by having tons of experience
archwolfg 6y ago
It got me a job. It's only a scam if you get a scam degree. Get a degree in STEM and you're all set for a white collar career.
TheSlicemanCometh 6y ago
I don't buy it. You could have learned all that you needed without the bill.
The piece of paper didn't get you a job. You got you a job.
2dogsandpizza 6y ago
You do realise that 'piece of paper' represents a shitload of hard work right? You're dreaming if you think a decent engineering company will hire you without a degree.
archwolfg 6y ago
That piece of paper got me the interview.
This is TRP right? I'm not going to sit here and bitch and moan that it shouldn't be this way.
The fact is, many jobs, no matter how wrong they are about it, only look at potential employees with degrees.
Like it or not, a degree helps you get jobs. You're right that it wasn't the exclusive reason I got the job.
TheSlicemanCometh 6y ago
If it was the reason or if it wasn't the reason, either way you are right.
donedreadpirate 6y ago
I saw this when I was 18. Did community college/associates degree then finished up at a commuter college. Got out of there with only a few grand in debt and make a fat salary now. I laugh internally when I hear people whining about their student loans. Dumbasses. But let's not hold them accountable because college should be free anyway!
I'm passionate about this subject.
AragorntheMighty 6y ago
Oh passionate one, what is it that you do?
donedreadpirate 6y ago
passionately sell passion fruit products while I listen to passion pit
CrazedHyperion 6y ago
College should be free only if you take up a major that is in high demand.
BENDERisGRREAT 6y ago
college should be free only if you are good eneough to get scholarships...OhWaitWeAlreadyDoThat......
CrazedHyperion 6y ago
Are you talking about academic or athletic scholarships? To me, athletic scholarships hold very little value. Besides, you have to work hard to maintain your scholarship, versus having society pay your tuition. Besides, college will never be truly free because of opportunity cost. Say rather than go to college, you work as a whatever for four years as a gigolo and make a lot of money. But now, you don't have the time to study to become an astrophysicist.
BENDERisGRREAT 6y ago
Im talking about both, true athletic scholarships arent as relevant to education as academic scholarship but its still someone thats willing to try to be the best at something and earn their help as opposed to demanding the government pay for it.
If your career has a higher opportunity cost than reward for having a college education then you dont need college in the first place. If you dont have a means to pay for college or earn a scholarship, maybe you werent cut out for college anyway
TheSlicemanCometh 6y ago
But education is a fundamental human right!
donedreadpirate 6y ago
Totally and we need to get this base-level income train on the tracks! Free education, healthcare and money, people. It's that simple. Free. Money. Look no further.
TheSlicemanCometh 6y ago
But you have to factor in privilege so the most oppressed get the most free money and the most privileged (I'm looking at you fucking white males) don't get shit.
Just like that we can create a utopia.
donedreadpirate 6y ago
As long as the 1% gets what's coming to them I'm all for it!
DesignerTom 6y ago
At my unversity, I work in a workshop from time to time to create physical designs. I have regularly noticed that the workshop instructors (all male) will give preferential treatment to attractive female students. Engaging in playful conversation, doing a little extra for them, checking up on them, whilst the rest of us seem to get average treatment and work hard to get the instructor's attention in a busy workshop. This might just be confirmation bias though, so take it with a grain of salt.
lopsidedlucky 6y ago
When I was in college I had two girls admit they wore low cut shirts and brought the thirsty lonely professor cupcakes so they could pass the class without studying. They were a bit ashamed but at least owned what they were doing.
RunawayGrain 6y ago
One of my college prof buddies told me about the time he had a girl that was a model / flight attendant in his class. He's sort of OCD, and she usually sat midway to the back of the class. When he gave the final he noticed she sat right up front. She was wearing a short skirt and pulled it back so he could see she wasn't wearing panties. She was trying to distract him from the fact that she was cheating pretty blatantly.
CallMeHaseo 6y ago
Did she at least have a fat ass?
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Asking the important questions.
TryhardPantiesON 6y ago
And don't forget nice tits.
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She's attractive enough that she uses tinder+ in university towns that she admires and finds guys to fly out to where we are and occasionally stay with us. The last guy was some beta from an Ivy League who stayed for the weekend. He tried being friends with me when I was playing battlefield, it was weird.
Edit: Maybe you think this is a joke? It's not. I am not joking.
HarmonizedInsanity 6y ago
Better have your exit plan ready. This bitch is on fire and going down. Don't let her take you with her.
hahayeahthatscool 6y ago
Idk why but shit like this drives me crazy. "Oh you play video games like every other young adult does in this country? We gotta be like, total bros now dude xD"
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BENDERisGRREAT 6y ago
eh i would do it if she was paying
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When I hear stories like this I can't help but wonder at what university are final grades negotiated? Every class I've ever taken has had grading policy outlined in the syllabus. My professors would laugh in your face if you attempted to "negotiate" your final grade.
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Straight from the pages of The Mnaipulated Man. Esther said this is the only reason women go to University unless they are particularly ugly and forced to work.
scarletspider3 6y ago
Now they also go so they wouldn't have to submit to a beta
DoesNotMatterAnymore 6y ago
This is not unique for women. Many of you thought that your clean underwear just magically appeared in you drawer when you lived with your parents. Then reality hits you when you move out.
My point is that people can get comfortable really quick, and in that state you can't appreciate how well you have it.
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What if she is actually depressed though?
Landry86 6y ago
Tell her there are other ways to find rich engineering husbands. This is pathetic.
Oh yeah and I'm pretty sure most rich husbands want their wives to clean up after themselves lol
Dank_Meems 6y ago
Just remember these little snowflakes will get a job before you too because we "need more women in STEM fields".
Revorob 6y ago
And let us not discuss the numbers of female university graduates who get by from fucking their way through passing grades.
rhettdu 6y ago
To repeat another post - you might as well be angry about the colour of the sky.
Why don't you ask for special treatment? Are you too big for it? Too Alpha? If it genuinely wouldn't help you then fine, but if not - your moral victory doesn't count for shit.
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Male roommates can be just as delusional about not cleaning shit but thinking they do.
lionsling 6y ago
Great post. I witnessed several women during my college days, walk up to the professor and say (usually as a group) they " were feeling icky" and wanted an extension on a midterm/ and or final and then the teacher would announce " We're setting the final back a week, to give you more time." The men would be laughed at if attempted such a thing.
jmmyt3 6y ago
Sounds like your school sucks. My engineering teachers were hard asses on every living creature.
BRINGMEDATASS 6y ago
This is so ridiculous I can't believe it without seeing it for myself and then I would probably still not believe it.
sup1337hax 6y ago
Can confirm. Had a programming final. The chick next to me just started crying. I have barely seen her in the class the whole semester but of course the beta as fuck TA in the class helped her with the code. (Read: did the entire code for her) The shit OP said is real.
red_devil0_0 6y ago
I have seen that happening and I am in engineering. All a girl who has scored less is to plead to professor with a hint of tears in your eyes. The acads is full of Betas, especially the Professors.
Shariabluew 6y ago
The abetting and complicit beta cuck professors are the worst. Fucking enablers.
lopsidedlucky 6y ago
It get's worst. These "girl engineers" get real engineering jobs with large companies to fill quotas etc. Then the few men have to pick up all the slack and fix problems from their incompetence.
They'll cause project delays and cost overruns and when put on the spot they'll hamster in the boardroom. They'll throw your ass under the bus and have a list of reasons why it's not they're fault and everyone will believe them.
They'll throw out the most ridiculous shit and the women will hold the sisterhood first and the beta fools will believe the bullshit cause vagina power. She'll get promoted somehow and continue the mess on upward through her career until she marries a beta and quits to pop out a kid.
eccentricrealist 6y ago
I just finished studying a constitutional law course so I had to take classes with some lawyers, which were younger because it's a basic class for them. For some reason first semester girls with rich dads always go to work in law firms and always get very well paid. Just witnessed the dumbest girl I've ever met get into one. They're asking for grades so maybe she won't last, but the privilege they get is astounding.
gistaminute 6y ago
And they gang up and get great engineers fired if they're unattractive.
DontTreadOnSnek 6y ago
From what I experienced, about 1/4 of women at my engineering university were just there to land a good-looking guy who would be making bank eventually, they had no interest or aptitude in the subject.
2dogsandpizza 6y ago
Yup, sure there are the unicorn decent girl engineers but they're so rare it's safer to assume every girl you meet in engineering is there because quota.
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RunawayGrain 6y ago
My buddy is a civil engineer, and was working on a bridge in Florida over the inter-coastal waterway. So he gets bumped down to second in command on this job, because one hot blonde 'engineer' was blowing all the right people. Her mentality was genuinely leave it to the men to do the work while she was out sunbathing. She proceeds to get down to the area, and petty much fucks up the plans. Buddy starts documenting everything, and points out the flaw in the plans. She rarely shows up for work -- and she's the project foreman. The few times she actually showed up she was in a bikini, and left after a short visit. So they go ahead and build this thing, lay the center spans, and the north span is something like 3 and a half feet higher than the south span. So the company wound up footing the bill for ripping out the whole of one of the spans and rebuilding it. Sure enough, she tried to pin it on my buddy.
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sleepyguy007 6y ago
So she's like a poor version of Marissa Mayer?
yomo86 6y ago
Just don't pick up the slack. Money and greed trumps political correctness.
AndyKane 6y ago
I need to become an engineer ????
zRaXcPk 6y ago
In my field (locomotive engineer) I have oly been around 2 female engineers. One of them only managed to keep her job for as long as she did because of her vagina and her ethnicity. The other was actually quite capable and competent at her job, never had an issue with her, but the other one, fuck it's scary to think this woman was operating 10,000+ ton trains over hills with zero clue how to do her job. She finally got fired (after 3 decertifications) for going 20 mph too fast in a turnout in a small town. Luckily nobody was hurt.
Mail_Order_Lutefisk 6y ago
Jesus, 20 mph over in a turnout is a recipe to derail. It's simple physics and she should thank God she didn't spill it. Wow.
zRaXcPk 6y ago
Especially considering how much hazmat we handle in my area.
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Man... I almost want to be skeptical of this because of confirmation bias, but it sounds true.
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BENDERisGRREAT 6y ago
It is and it is not. The truth is that the useless men get fired, but they still exist
voomer53 6y ago
I'm afraid this applies generally to most of the workforce...our economy has become a universe of affirmative action. Meritocracy has morphed into miasma. Enjoy the decline.
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Bing400 6y ago
No, fuck both of those things. Why should we allow them to deliberately fuck things up for us?
BRINGMEDATASS 6y ago
I think affirmative action is a great idea, heavy handing it , however, can lead to disaster.
voomer53 6y ago
Affirmative action is the opposite of Meritocracy..by definition these people are given their positions due to arbitrary social quotas, not actual skills and abilities. Would you willingly fly in a plane piloted by a socially promoted flight school grad?
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BRINGMEDATASS 6y ago
It's racist if you apply it to races. I think affirmative action for low-income communities/families is a good thing. Not everyone is born into the means to excel in school without having to worry about living expenses or attending a good high school. If a low-income student receives a slightly lower test entry exam score/ GPA, compared to a high income student, I think it is fair to give that student a chance considering that the student most likely did not have the same support system as someone coming from money. This of course would hopefully be a minimal inclusion in an ideal world. It's not like schools are completely flat out rejecting large numbers of applications in the name of affirmative action, in every state across the board the majority of students come from the same ethnic backgrounds(which again doesn't take income into account, which I don't like but it is what it is for now). Just my 2 cents.
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Engineer, can confirm. Spot on.
Baltazar_red 6y ago
Same, only good female engineer I ever worked with was a butch. All others were bad engineers and had bad attitudes.
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Another engineer confirming this confirmation.
paterfamilias78 6y ago
Fourth engineer confirming here.
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afkb39sdfb 6y ago
What kind of engineer? I'm debating going to Texas after I complete my M.E. degree to work in the oil industry. I can imagine the ladies don't want to work in a refinery.
Bigmachiavelli 6y ago
Currently a chemical engineer that works in the oil fields.. Exxon is extremely competitive, I'm talking 3.8s and above, you'll be doing a desk job there anyway. A good way to get more and experience is to work in the field with a service company. I currently avg 180k as a drilling engineer. Would be making 300k prior to the downturn. Since the downturn ended, many qualified guys are dying to get in. You are competing with them, you'll be competing with them until oil really picks up(>80$ barrel).
Network and get good grades and you might have some luck.
jewishsupremacist88 6y ago
im not an engineer but as someone who writes code at his job quite a bit..the more mathematical/specialized you are..the less likely you are to have to deal with women. if you're the guy who writes some sort of simulation software for whatever engineering topic it is..chances are you wont need to deal with women.
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Yea but there won't be any hotties around oil towns, sounds miserable. I'm a mech engineer in central NC, lots of hotties in other fields around.
CanuckinFL 6y ago
I work with software, ratio of male-female about 10-1 and I like it that way. Remember fellas, don't shit where you eat.
Hunt away from work, I promise you it's not worth it to blur that line.
red_devil0_0 6y ago
Mechs have it tough! Its basically a man's field, with very few women in it. And the ones in it will try to switch to software the moment they get the opportunity.
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Same issues in electrical.
All you can do is accept it and figure out other ways to meet women.
Landry86 6y ago
I'm in an oil town and there are lots of pretty women here. Why meet someone in your field if it is masculine?
Engineers should date nurses!
Bing400 6y ago
How much are you expecting in terms of compensation for that type of work at that level of schooling?
afkb39sdfb 6y ago
Looked into it. ExxonMobil starts at 90k/yr with bonuses ranging from 15k-50k a year.
Bing400 6y ago
Do you think a computer or software engineer could get a job in an oil field? I'm 18, I'm about to join uni, choosing between ME and Software/CompEng
afkb39sdfb 6y ago
ME for oil industry, and you won't have to worry about your job being sent to India.
AladdinHussein 6y ago
Both are solid fields but go with Computer SCIENCE (not eng)
Bing400 6y ago
Why do that? Wouldn't it be better to be a leader versus doing the bitch-work? Wouldnt I be better off in comp eng if I were to start a company?
AladdinHussein 6y ago
If you study computer engineering, you will wind up with the same jobs (being a programmer) that CompSci majors get. I really can't answer the rest. Look into it on YouTube. See what programmers, or even tech entrepreneurs, say about it.
MrBellsprout123 6y ago
I went to an Engineering school AND a military school. The guy to girl ratio was like 25:1. The worst human beings that have ever existed graduated from that college.
Landry86 6y ago
I went to a college that was nearby a military college. I could never understand the women who chose to be there and everyone called them "corps whores"
MrBellsprout123 6y ago
I mean there is a lot of potential for them to move up. Affirmative action of the ass everywhere and attention everywhere from men. But holy crap do not EVER date a woman that says she went to a military school. Even if they aren't giant whores, which they probably are, but the female brain is NOT designed to receive that much male attention, by the time they leave the school nothing will be good enough ever again for them.
I mean can you imagine going to a school with a 25:1 girl to fucking guy ration, and affirmative action where you get ahead in the school JUST because you're a guy. I mean imagine the fucking pussy you would slay.
It was a merchant marine academy, so imagine being in the middle of the ocean, on a boat with 50 men and 450 WOMEN, for 3 months. Holy fucking shit the fuck fiesta would be insane. Even the ugliest beta fucking buck would slay pussy. Hell I'm not even sure I could handle that kind of pussy.
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Throwawaysteve123456 6y ago
Engineering woman tend to come from two breeds: the majority are the female equivalent of male engineers, socially inept, awkward, etc. The second is the one you just mentioned. I used to bang this woman who was an engineer with like FFF bra size, and she talked all the time about how she flirted/fucked her way into her 150+k/year position. Women in stem fields now make more than men at the SAME FUCKING POSITION. Meanwhile years of wage gap research show men and women make the same across the board for the same jobs, with the exception of women in STEM. Then these bitches go and complain about the 78% wage myth. Unreal.
AssMaster95 6y ago
Yeah it's fucking ridiculous. There was a middle eastern girl who took her shoes off every class period sitting next to me and they smelled terrible every time. I mentioned it and she was offended. Outside of Uni I wouldn't give a shit but if I "attack" someone in that environment I could get kicked out.
Tmnsquirtle47 6y ago
As much as this bitch deserves to fail, I can't say I agree with you. 100% of the girls I've met and fucked in college are super hardworking when it comes to academics.
useyourmouth 6y ago
Moral of your story aside, just wanted to add that you college guys should absolutely "ask for special treatment" from your professors. That is, sack up and go talk to your professor before an exam, ask him/her what you should be studying. The professor will be so thrilled that a dude is showing special interest, they will pretty much tell you what is going to be on the test and you can then laser focus your studying.
I was like random2075 in college, and hamstered myself into believing I was too great to seek "special treatment." In reality, I was just too chickenshit to have a conversation with my professors. My buddy, who is far stupider, but way more outgoing, was ZFG about it, and would just go talk with the professors before exams, and essentially get all the questions beforehand.
You are paying them thousands of dollars in tuition. You owe it to yourself to get as much value out of your professors while you can. This means actually talking to them, not just sitting in their class.
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I hope you took full advantage of her when she was drunk.
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
The idea is to cover for the fact that she never did, by implying that she used to. Women powertalk so fluently and habitually that they even do it to people who can see right through it because they're in control of all the facts.
Female privilege knows no bounds. Men get blame, women get support. Come on man... you know how all this works by now.
It's why I can't take all these amazing female graduates seriously - they've had positive discrimination, extra help and lower standards to achievement since the day they were born.
Let her have her party decade while you build yourself into a pinnacle of awesomeness. Let's talk again the far side of 30 where you've happily living the dream and she's stuck with Boring Billy Beta bemoaning that Chad no longer calls.
lopsidedlucky 6y ago
This is one of the most important responses in here.
"The idea is to cover for the fact that she never did, by implying that she used to. Women powertalk so fluently and habitually that they even do it to people who can see right through it because they're in control of all the facts."
This is exactly what she did and OP didn't catch it. Women are fluent in powertalk and speak this way constantly. It's important to learn how to spot it since many manipulative effeminate men do the same. It's way a for them to bullshit you and when you buy it they almost laugh inside.
Now when you know how to catch it and call them out on it in a fun flirty way then they know you know the game and get wet. Learn this.
gistaminute 6y ago
Worst of all, the best example of a woman engineer on the face of the earth is having her femininity lazied out of her in a liberal west coast city. I miss her cookies and dresses, they've given way to powerful woman. I hope she eats these little bitches alive, because she actually did the work and can compete with men. And we know how old women are toward young women using their assets to get ahead on their chess board.
yomo86 6y ago
I highly recommend anything that has to do with Machiavellism. If you are not a high-mach by nature you can emulate it. And frankly, women power talk fluently but they are not apt at mastering it perfectly. Their power talk is mostly a series of self-proven smoke bomb methods, rarely disguised. This is why women among each other are extremely hostile. They see this crude manipulation attempt, and for most, it is an insult to their intelligence.
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
True. It's extremely short term and obvious after a while. Once you realise they constantly do it, you can read them better than they can understand themselves.
gazzaa2 6y ago
Also why women hate female bosses
MrBellsprout123 6y ago
Thats a very good point. She knows very well that she wasn't cleaning shit, but now you can't call her out on her not cleaning because well she "apologized" for it, what else is she suppose to do? And there's no way to prove that she wasn't cleaning it before. She's just covering her ass, him letting all that trash build up was a covert way to call her out on her bullshit, and her apologizing was her attempt to cover it up, and her being depressed was just an excuse. Women are out of their fucking minds.
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MrBellsprout123 6y ago
You can't. Trying to get a woman to hold herself accountable for her actions is like trying to nail jello to a wall. The only way a woman will hold herself accountable for her actions is if she gets something in return for it, in which most cases, that return would be your attention /commitment. But when she isn't concerned about your attention or commitment, theres nothing you can do.
You don't try to point out the fact, you move out of the apartment.
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
Except it works. She is just optimising for what she can get away with, and men are enabling it. She's learned that behaving as a child works, so she continues to do it.
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God, now I want to just move out at the end of summer and tell her some stupid shit like, you aren't hot enough to be that much of a bitch, toodaloo mother fucker and walk away.
cloudmax40 6y ago
If you are fucking her, you shouldn't be cohabitating with her. If you aren't fucking her, she isn't worth the trouble. Move out.
Law 10: Infection: Avoid the Unhappy and the Unlucky
godfatherchimp 6y ago
Absurd. You can cohabit with her if you plan to have kids with her soon after moving in together.
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cloudmax40 6y ago
Most women are absolutely incapable of being symbiotic.
The exception are women who received a lot of attention and investment from a good father, proactively actualize themselves, are healthfully feminine (conscientiously interested in being a good wife) and then are motivated by you (if you are qualified) to be so.
Exactly.
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godfatherchimp 6y ago
You call it flipping the script, I call it gaslighting. It's a classic technique that abusers use as a weapon against their victims in a relationship.
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rigbed 6y ago
She's honest: she's not doing engineering for the engineering, she's doing it for dick. Fortunately no one, including women, are being fooled by the lie anymore. We can complain about her manipulating her cuck professors to get more chances but let's face it, she'll become an intern ultimately anyway and it'll come down to her looks eventually. Don't complain, just be a rich engineer
MCAFEE_eats_shit 6y ago
I'm an engineering student and this shit happens all the time, if a girl fails something all they have to do is cry and they get a pass or an attempt to retake it again in the summer as a "first attempt", with bs excuses like "i was stressed" or "the workload is too much" (Nevermind having to work part time + extra extracurriculars because they all get the "you have a pussy" funding grant). God forgive girls have to actually work as hard as men to get the same outcome. It is the most aggravating thing in the world to have to work your ass off to get a hard, high value degree at university and see these girls take away places from guys that would have worked hard for it.
Usually people like this get found out when it comes to actually getting work etc or keeping jobs but due to the equal outcome feminism at play, when applying for internships and grad schemes they get put to the top of the list of applications and are far more likely to get a job and when there can flirt their way through life. There is a reason why STEM is mainly men and It actually does a disservice to the small amount of girls that deserve to be their and do not use their pussies to get by as everyone just assumes they do anyway, and thats why they are there.
MisterHuckFinn 6y ago
Shes obviously abusing her pussypass, but at the same time its not totally a gender thing. Universities really want to coddle their students, because a) they want to project themselves as a safe space and b) they want your money...
Mouthpiece 6y ago
This is your competition in the job market. Now realize that she gets paid as much as 77% as you do, for doing that level of work.
DesignerTom 6y ago
That's not true. 77% is when they take all the salaries of males and all the salaries for females and then divide them by the total number of men and female. Therefore it compares mens salaries which are usually in jobs like business and IT which are high paying, with those of women which are usually in lower paying jobs like administration, childcare etc. It is not a comparison of like for like job positions. If you read the US Dept of Labor report on the issue, the report conclusion states that there is a wage gap of 4 - 7 % between genders and that there seems to be no evidence of sexism, but rather it is the results of an individual's own personal choices. i.e. women prefer to work in certain types of jobs, and men in others.
Mouthpiece 6y ago
I know it's not true. But given OP's example, even if it were true, even 77% would be overpaying.
Reading comprehension appears to be a problems amongst all the downvoters.
Jake_25 6y ago
Well you could get where I wouldn't get your sarcasm. If it is sarcasm it's very dry, and that's hard to pick up in text.
lopsidedlucky 6y ago
Some asshole downvoted you. This sub is filled with so many damn indoctrinated blue pill bitches.
u/designer is correct. The 77% number came from comparing women with lower experience and less time in their careers due to having babies against men with more experience and time in their careers. The entire original study was debunked immediately over decades ago.
Feminists have just latched onto that number for their own agenda.
Jake_25 6y ago
You can't pay women less for doing the same job, otherwise men would never get hired.
Mouthpiece is uninformed
Mouthpiece 6y ago
I own a business. If this were true, I'd have a 23% advantage over my competition.
Some people have trouble reading sarcasm.
sell4fun 6y ago
is that a script for a sitcom to be.
OGlancellannister 6y ago
I absolutely believe this lmao. Anyways what's it matter. Lesson here is don't live with women you aren't fucking, and even then.... don't live with them 90% of the time. Let her have her easy way out and stick to your morals man. You know you might not believe it, but it's a man's world out there, if you're willing to be a man and take what you want. Women's sexual window is like 1/3 the length of men's, she will hit the wall well before you do. Plus the vast majority of highest achievers in any intellectual field are men — look at the differences in the tails of any IQ curve.
Don't trouble yourself looking for vengeance and for her to get hers. Waste of mental effort. Create something, make something of yourself. Sounds like you have the willpower and structure to do so.
destraht 6y ago
I think that its just a good idea to be an environment where there is no need to feel bad for getting a good nights sleep on a Tuesday. I went to school in a party university for two years and it was miserable in a way because I was studying very seriously and I could often hear parties on any day of the week and it just reminded me that people were out there having fun and so I felt a needless loss. Additionally after not actively socializing for some days I would meet up with people to find out that they had gone out 1-2 times since I had last and so it was difficult to get on the inside. I think that an environment like that is just pointlessly frustrating.
gistaminute 6y ago
Same. I'm doing way better than anyone I would've been partying with. I'd have been better off partying if I'd stayed in the same city currently, but in a fresh city in retrospect I was better off studying. Probably better off in long term either way, although gaining social skills in a competitive big boy's environment has challenges that partying early would alleviate. Balance.
Herdsengineers 6y ago
a rich engineering husband
what planet is she from? engineers don't get rich being engineers. that all by itself shows how dumb she is.
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OnlyCuriosity 6y ago
exactly what i was gonna say. engineers have high starting pay (compared to womens studies) but you won't get RICH from it... at least not what i consider rich
Herdsengineers 6y ago
Right, you can make a comfortable living, but you'll never get rich, and you'll always be considered as a commodity. The only way to get rich in engineering is to build up your own company into a success, big enough to get the attention of a big firm that will want to come in and buy you. I know several guys that did it, and they made big bank on those deals. Not enough to never have to work again, but enough that if they invested wisely, their lives will be much much easier from a financial standpoint.
jewishsupremacist88 6y ago
put it this way. a decent engineer can pull 50-60k on average starting salary while everyne else is earning peanuts. some business types that get good corporate jobs can get high paying jobs out of school but its super competitive to get those jobs, more so than engineering, IMO.
gistaminute 6y ago
60k and the sky is the limit with experience. Have some accomplishments and you'll be over six figures in most large metros in a few years.
Herdsengineers 6y ago
$50-60k isn't really much. Especially these days. I've got my Professional Engineering License, almost 20 years experience, and I got news for you, I make a decent salary that if nothing goes wrong over a lifetime (divorce, major illness, disaster, etc.), you can save up for a decent life and retirement. Something always goes wrong, though.
These days, if you want to make big money, it's gonna take some risky business ventures, a lot of work and patience, being willing to fail until you finally succeed, and being stubborn.
yomo86 6y ago
It's enough to pay for two student loans and enough to enslave Billy with the shackle of a mortgage. Plus contrary to lawyers, accountants and other professional fields which might yield a high ROI it is a very safe bet. 50k+ is the minimum outcome if he graduates.
MDs are lavished with female attention so the competition is out of this world.
Engineers on the other hand have a thirst-inducing male to female ratio by definition. A 5 becomes a 9.
jewishsupremacist88 6y ago
Trust me dude, I dont think 100K is alot of money either. A mid to senior level finanical analyst will make 70-90k a year depending on the metro but those guys have next to no responsibility. Middle class today is making 250k+
Landry86 6y ago
True.... def depends on where you live. $60k in a small town is a lot. In a big city it isn't much though
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Honestly I suspected this was the case, but didn't have proof. Sounds perfectly believable tbh.
I_AM_CALAMITY 6y ago
NEVER play the passive aggressive game where you leave messes around. That is beta.
Directly let roomies know that their standard of cleanliness is too low and they need to clean up their own messes in shared spaces.
mikesteane 6y ago
Has anyone tried taking photographs and then cleaning up, so they have evidence when the inevitable arguments arise?
TangoZulu 6y ago
Evidence? Evidence is logic, and women don't operate in logic. In the meantime, you've given her exactly what she wants in you cleaning up after her. All you're doing is topping it off with drama, and women thrive on drama. It's what gets them up in the morning; they eat drama for breakfast with a side of Hamster-O's and a glass of Chad Juice. Meanwhile, you're bashing your head against the wall out of frustration over the whole thing, while trying to wash the cum stains out of the whore blouse that she wore to the bar last night because she leaves her dirty laundry everywhere. But at least you took a picture of that, too. I'm sure you'll win the next argument.
lqtys 6y ago
Shut up bitch. We know when you are trying to manipulate us.
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2dogsandpizza 6y ago
Cool story bro. Exception to the rule does not invalidate the rule.
AnotherGypsy 6y ago
I've met one girl in engineering who is competent but damn she is hot af and more alpha than most guys I know lol. Definitely the exception.
smirk_addict 6y ago
I think doing well in that field correlates to masculine behavior. One of my female friends who has a genius IQ and loves mathematics can't stand the way most women communicate passively. I've also observed when women complain, she speaks to them directly and offers solutions to their problems. If they continue to complain, she shuts them up.
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AnotherGypsy 6y ago
I'm in college right now and I've partied with her a few times. Smv is pretty fucking high. Sadly I bombed the shit tests but I this was right as I was getting into TRP.
sir_wankalot_here 6y ago
She has autism or aspergers ????
gistaminute 6y ago
I've been in LTRs with 3 very high quality engineering women, from 2/3 of the top ChemE and the top CS schools... they weren't autistic mind you, good sir, they were Asia born edit: immigrants.
g0DXD 6y ago
By autism he means high functioning autism which usually is correlated to IQ 150+
gistaminute 6y ago
I give it to work ethic instilled by their families and experiencing shittier conditions before coming to the US. Not sure about their IQs, I don't even know my own. Surely 2/3 were above average and the last was about on par with me who I consider average, maybe slightly above (I know, I know :).
Sumsar01 6y ago
Its because chemestry isnt really logical. Its just like medicin, women do well because all they have to do is remember a whole lot of molekyle names etc.
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zemekis 6y ago
You don't know what you're talking about. Chemistry students have to take the majority of math that physics students do.
Sumsar01 6y ago
So I don't know how you study, but at least at my University what you're postulating is bullshit.
At my University as a chemistry student, you have the mandatory math courses: Calculus, statistics and data analysis and Linear transformations (watered down Linear Algebra).
So and physics students have on top of before mentioned courses: Linear Algebra, Fourier analysis, and Vector analysis.
I also had I have Quantum Mech with quite a few chemists completely different approach to calculating and they don't even write in LaTeX.
tuner_metronome 6y ago
botmy oh boy do you really think medecine is just regurgitating stuff ? the first 2years may be for fundamental science but after you need a lot of brainz
Sumsar01 6y ago
When do they start to need brainz? My mother is a doctor and I know around 20-50 people either studying Medicin or in the field and tbh most of them really struggle with pretty basic stuff.
Stabiel 6y ago
Does this really matter to you? She's going to end up getting hit with the wall of life and you being another red pill brother will likely succeed on so many levels.
Keep tabs on her and enjoy the inevitable fall into obscurity.
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There was no mention of her whoring it up. Instead, it seems she understands her position and how to exploit it. Will she succeed in nabbing a rich husband? That's only 25% likely, but it's also 70% likely she'll settle for some slightly upper middle class beta who will pay for her to be a SAHM for the next 20 years and only about a 5% chance she'll crash and burn.
lopsidedlucky 6y ago
The wall doesn't matter much anymore. Don't count on that revenge. They'll hit the wall but there's so many thirsty betas out there that will line up to wife her up and pay her alimony into her late life.
You have to simply move on and not seek the revenge or justice, it won't happen to most of them. The western world is churning out thirsty betas to take care of many of them and laws to ensure they're secure for life.
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Yes, it does for now. The quality of my education is reduced to fit the needs of people like this, one's that shouldn't be in university. It's watered down.
I can't wait until she hits the wall at a breakneck pace.
destraht 6y ago
If you don't plan on doing more education then you can do fine with B's and doing your own projects. I knew that I wasn't going for a masters in CS and so I fucked around with a lot of passionate side projects. For example one night I got sucked into programming my TI-92 to do a complicated linear algebra problem and I barely slept. The calculator did a lot but I still had to program in tons of edge cases and to really understand the problem. So on the test I was a bit tired and I didn't show completely all of the steps and so I got zero percent on that problem and so took a large hit on the test. I just say fuck it though because B's kept me out of trouble and my goal was training to be a computer scientist and I don't give a fuck what their goal was. Well, I've never had to prove my degree to anyone and as you are noticing a degree in itself can be not as valuable as it would seem. Ok so the professional license tests that can come afterwards are real bitches but then not every field has these. Degrees mean less now, getting kicked out the military doesn't mean shit, bitches can get no fault divorces, there are free lessons on the Internet, etc. The world is changing and as the systems becomes more corrupt the paper will mean less and less, just like it does in other shitty countries.
awalt_cupcake 6y ago
The "revenge fantasy" isn't real. Most likely she'll kiss ass to some sap after her vagina is loosey goosey and she's not getting any more promotions. She'll get married. Have kids. Divorce him OR fuck dudes on the side. She'll win. And she'll think she deserved it. She'll have her cake and eat it too. With all the sprinkles.
smokecheck1976 6y ago
You don't know what she'll do. She might hit the wall. She will more than likely find some guy to marry her, squeeze out a couple of kids and life will go on. Neither of you are likely to be more than a footnote in the other's history.
If you feel you aren't challenged, then challenge yourself. Instead of a major, make it a double major.
_Hank-Scorpio_ 6y ago
This is incredible advice. In life you are only competing against the best version of yourself OP--competition with other people is just a means to bring the best out of yourself.
On a side note, EVERYONE should double major. The market is tough right now. But that advice above isn't limited to education.
Utterberetacht 6y ago
Ah, the Pussy Pass with Female Privilege in an environment that aggressively fosters them, the university campus. If you’re a young woman, you can do pretty much anything and still get away with it. And you don’t even have to be attractive.
What a fucking time to be alive.
Jack0fDiamonds 6y ago
It sounds like you go to a real joke of a college lol
Landry86 6y ago
I know, right? This would not fly at the institution I went to... girl or not
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gistaminute 6y ago
It's too bad when it's subsidized in a STEM field, though... if they were hanging out in the psych department it would be no big deal, but now they're competing for jobs that want diversity and soft skills above and at the cost of all else. More importantly, the attention of professors and experts. That's the ethical problem in medical, which is increasingly supported by all sorts of other STEM.
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Are there any board certs in STEM? It doesn't matter if you cry your way through nursing or accounting school. The Nursing board, CPA/FINRA, the bar exam, etc don't care if you cry. You fail, you fail.
gistaminute 6y ago
No widely recognized board certs in Software, I think some other Engineering professions have requirements. IEEE is working on something for Software Engineering. Good to be reminded of that, indeed.
smokecheck1976 6y ago
I got to take an entire semesters worth of exams a week late because of a whiskey river incident that involved neither whiskey nor a river. Don't bother yourself with what someone else is doing. Also, find a better roomie.
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One of the top 15 engineering undergrads in the US.
Whatwhatinthebutt588 6y ago
What the hell kind of "university" do you go to that they gave her another month to take finals?
juliusstreicher 6y ago
"I guess I could go in now and ask for special treatment, maybe I would get it. The difference is that I won't."
Oh, I'm convinced that you'd get special treatment! LOL!
aanarchist 6y ago
they make up most of the people who graduated without actually earning the degree.
19RomeoQuebec 6y ago
I wouldn't sweat it, as long as the bitch is paying her part of her bills.