Yet another scenario is to be a Chad Thundercock forever. In that vision you just never settle down (what I did) and that's great until you get up into your 50's and you aren't looking as hot as those young studs. Remember that the Chad Thundercock Game is all about your youthful sexy hard body. Time has a way of aging the body even when you take good care of it.

Build your empire. You really think Hugh Hefner has trouble getting laid? Status is the #1 aphrodisiac in existence. You could be Chad in your 20s and 30s, but as we get older (I'd say right around 40) what makes someone a Chad changes. By 50 and beyond it's all about that sweet sweet status.

Maybe it is just me or maybe other men have experienced it, as well.

As soon as your libido normalizes and is congruent with the female libido ie. usable as a tool around 27 - 32yo according to the curves; your need for a woman, any woman dwindles.

Yes, I would definitely bang my hot 20 yo neighbor but I don't have to play the stupid games like in college anymore.

When women had their intrinsic high value ie 15 - 29 men were by nature, and due to the lack of knowledge, stupid. When men reach their high SMV they are battle-hardened and wiser, some are betas but in general the men who stayed clear of marriage and kids beyond 30 and slaying it at work and in the gym are RP. This is why you hear women's magazines lamenting about: It must be something wrong with him to were never to be married. Albeit they fight each other over the last pools of untainted free $-sources.

This is when it occurred to me that women in general are trying to get my attention at all costs.

The chart is absolutely accurate

Post that chart on other message boards, like I have, and watch the hamsters spin to light speed. The reactions to the chart should confirm that its true, because of the charged reactions to it. The funny thing is, is that the most charged reactions aren't about the male curve, but the female curve, coming not from women, but from men. For some reason men have convinced themselves that women age like wine as well and their peak years are in their 30s or even 40s, and will defend that assumption to the death. They will use some Hollywood actress with heavily applied makeup and plastic surgery to "prove" their point. The only comeback you need to that is "Yeah she may look good, but I bet she looked better at 21". The Rollo SMV chart isn't about how good you look now, its about how good you look relative to your absolute peak.

I think the chart is the #1 piece of evidence you need when proving the point that no man should ever be married in his 20s. Hell, no man should even have an LTR in his 20s in my opinion unless he has had sex with many many women. Getting into an LTR or a marriage before your prime years is like those scruples questions where they say "You can be given $1 million now, or $20 million in 20 years" and you take the $1 million now. It shows a lack of patience and lack of confidence in yourself.

I am going to get heavily downvoted here, but hear me out. There is something very wrong with this graph. I agree with everything else Rollo says, but the graph, there is a massive error.

A male's peak is not at 36. The graph really needs two Male Curves. One for the alpha, one for the beta. At the end of the day, both men and women are attractive at their younger, more fertile years which is during their 20s.

If you are an alpha male, the curve will rise and peak at the same gradient as the females, and then the alphas curve will stay elevated until about 36, and slowly taper. The only winners in the current SMP is the alpha male.

For the Beta male, a separate curve is needed, but Rollo's male curve is actually pitting the BETA MALE'S RMV AGAINST THE FEMALE'S SMV. This peak we see is a man compensating with status and money (essentially BB positives), fighting against an ageing used up consolotation prize of used females.

If Rollo's current peak was totally correct, a 36YO beta male with millions wouldnt have his wife fucking a genetic alpha of 25 year old pool boy cleaning their garden.

Do not confuse RMV with SMV. ALso, read the recent comment about Madonna fucking a fat man. You can have all the moey and status you want, but at the end of the day, a broke ripped natural genetic alpha will win, every time. The real red pill is accepting that the game to a heavy extent is rigged. Still Lift and try you best anyway,

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I believe this can easily be tied with the recent post regarding the "Cool Girl" syndrome that we're seeing with women approaching the wall or even post-wall. That is, once their looks have begun to diminish, they attempt to pad the numbers by taking on more vapid hobbies, traveling and adding ticks to their checklists so that they are clearly "moar experienced, mature, and worldly."

When men begin to Hamster this idea that her coolness will make up for her waning beauty, we get this mythology that she will only get better with time... a clear lie.

To explain this chart to guys who are confused:

36-year-old Brad Pitt = higher SMV than 26-year-old Brad Pitt.

Guys in your 20s: if you eat right and lift, you'll look even better in your 30s and even into your 40s. Trust me, when you get older you'll pull 20-year-old women right out of the hands of 20-something guys who didn't even see it coming.

I definitely buy the chart as it relates to the average woman -- as goes their looks, so goes their power in the sexual dynamic.

I definitely don't buy the male valuation though. It screams to me of some older dude trying to justify why he's still cool in his 30's or 40's. To an extent men also look worse as they age. Sure money just scales upwards with age but I definitely don't think that's the be all and end all. Men in their 20's make a lot of money as well. Plus the fact that (and anyone working in finance can understand this) it's almost better to be earning a lot of money for your age young, so that the prospect of your later years means you'll be earning a lot. Whereas if you're already in your later years, either you are doing well off financially or you're not, but the variance is priced in and if you're not doing well there's little promise of future cash flows.

So yeah, I think this chart tries to rationalize late blooming men telling them that their "best years are still ahead of them" when in reality NOW is the best time to start locking down women (not in marriage mind you, but their attention and affection) no matter what age you're at.

It also doesn't effectively quantify the age disparities. It's easier for a 25 year old to meet a 25 year old, it's weird and less natural for a 40 year old to meet a 25 year old. Either gender.

Also he probably has no hard data actually supporting any of this. it's just a theoretical model so you can take it to the bank as far as you can throw it.

Actually, I think the chart is politically correct. For me at least, female teens have highest SMV: between ages 16-18 most are at their peak and only get worse afterwards.

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This chart is very volatile comparing to reality. If you are a hideous looking slob at the age 22, it's almost guarenteed that you will be 2/10 for the rest of your life.

I try to look at it from another perspective, if we line up every guy based on their age, I don't think the age 36 would be the double smv of age 30. However, I agree that smv increases with wealth and experience but I think the increase in the chart shouldn't be that steep.

All in all this all smv age chart thing is a blue pill covered in red to ease out all the nice guys that finished last or/will never finish at all.

My experience is that in 20s I was just too stupid and inexperienced. With women, life, job, whatever. Too much Testosterone and not enough brain (well combination which works with women, so there is something positive).

As I am approaching 30, I have more experience, more money, more knowledge, more control. I think I even look better facial wise then before. Body is absolutely in check.

30-40 is period of life when man knows what he wants and he is able to take it. Too bad it's just a decade.

What do I think about SMV chart? Honestly it hugely depends on looks. That's what I think. Yes you can be 35 and banging college girls but you have to have pretty youthful face and rocking body. Every other average 35 guy can simply forget about it. Energy is also important. You still have to have that 27yo guy virility and aura.

Its always stuck in my craw that people uncritically just swallow what Rollo and Heartiste are peddling simply because of their status of their names in the manosphere.

It should be telling, that both are middle aged men, investing a large amount of time into blogs playing the pussy guru for younger men. On some level, you have to realize this is partly fantasy for them and partly living vicariously even if they were or are good with women. This isnt to say they dont offer good advice or their blogs are shit, i still frequently enjoy both but I take it all with a fistful of salt knowing that Rollo is a married man middle aged man and Roissy is fat and a DC burnout.

Ask yourself honestly how many 35+ year old men you have seen walking around with hot, young women? This is one of those tenuous manosphere fantasies that everyone insists must happen but very few people ever witness. What I see is 35 year old men dating other 30+ women.

Its not that it is impossible, far from it, but it is also completely rare, and thus you should be very critical of the idea that 35 year old men somehow have a higher SMV than guys in their 20s simply because of having money or stability - if young girls were chasing money and stability they wouldn't be out in nightclubs every weekend shopping for unprotected sex with strangers in their age range. Moreover the idea of treating SMV like a list of xbox achievements is silly and deluding, the valuation of any market depends on the specific market. To a certain market diamonds are of extreme value, to me you would have a hard time selling me anything because I dont value them.

The people who will get most mad at this post are both A) approaching middle age and B) feeling anxiety about it and doubling down to avoid cognitive dissonance. Well, tough titties, but the idea that men somehow avoid the toll of the passage of time unlike women who turn to dried dogshit, is pure sophistry, except the intention isnt to deceive others, its to deceive yourself.

This isnt to say you personally CAN'T get young women in your 30s, but you need to be realistic, and if you want to enjoy the company and sex of women but if the only options finding its way to your table are women approaching the wall, well the alternative is masturbation.

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