The Red Pill is a group of young men who spend their free time writing and reading bro theory. There are a host of reasons why a twenty something decides to put down porn and video games and spend hours playing philosopher. Some feel that the popular consensus doesn't accurately describe the world and are looking for an alternative that does. Some are in search of an intellectual and creative outlet. Others are dissatisfied for one reason or another and enjoy being part of a dissident community. Irrespective of the reasons for its members participation, the Red Pill gets it's legitimacy from its ability to accurately predict and explain. This unprecedented election season has revealed a lot about how the world functions and in so doing validated the Red Pill Theory as the pinnacle of post modern philosophy.
When Donald Trump called illegals rapists on the first day of his campaign, every pundit and every poster in r politics laughed in unison that he had already lost. That’s because they have no concept of frame. Trump was the first candidate in a long time who ran a campaign with a different method than simply showing his obedience to the system and its mandatory code of conduct. From his first speech, Trump blasted the rules apart and forced everyone else to play his chaotic game. That’s bringing people into your frame.
Frame is about shaping the way people form beliefs and attitudes about the world and how they react towards it. Trump was only candidate in 2016 to create a new lens for people to see themselves and the world through. The other candidates pointed the old lens at yet another policy proposal. Ironically Trump's 2016 frame shift is exactly what Obama offered with Hope and Change in 2008. In a divisive time and turbulent economy he who can offer passage to a better reality will be the winner. No other candidate offered an escape to a new reality. They offered tax plans, a vagina in the oval office and pantomimed strength, but they didn't offer the American People what they wanted most: a New World.
Bernie Sanders deserves a special mention here, specifically because of how he fails to offer a New World. Sanders spoke of revolution and announced that he was going to bring change but then offered Progressivism. Bernie is a true believer when he acts as if it’s Christians or traditionalists are still in charge. He doesn't understand how society has changed. Bernie appealed to people who felt the need for change but had no vision of what change would look like. Bernie’s an old man who thinks the ideas that were new when he was a kid are still new. He offered the comfort of old ideas while still talking about change. At the end of the day, he was just a tax plan.
Everything that made Trump seem unelectable and ridiculous, is what made him succeed. Trump is the pick up artist Mystery walking into a club wearing aviator goggles and black nail polish circa 2004. He's brash bold eclectic and reckless. He is his own world and succeeds because people prefer his world to their own so much so that women will give up their vagina to be a part of it. Innovators, rule breakers and risk takers win, conformists lose. The leftist mainstream media will never allow themselves to understand this phenomenon because at its core leftism is about conformity, hence the virtue signaling and thought policing.
The path to victory is not comfortable and there are plenty of men who would rather believe that the path doesn't exist than admit that they are too weak to take it. If you ask Jeb Bush about his crushing defeat he would mutter something inane incomprehensible or nonsensical. Likewise if you ask a nice guy about his failings with women you would get a similar response. Finally if you were to show them how to win by winning they would fill with rage and lecture you on your moral failings. The are some truths that people won't allow themselves to comprehend. Those truths are the Red Pill.
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faggotbrains 7y ago
Frame, hold frame and you win. It is one of the most powerful concept in interactions
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Go back and look at Trump's "gaffes"
Almost to a T, every single one of them was deliberately ambiguous. Designed to be picked up the media and in such a way that the media would completely shit the bed with it's reporting.
He sets out exactly how to play the media in his book. The art of the Deal. Written almost 30 years ago.
His entire campaign was perfectly calculated and executed. Anything less and he would have failed. He took on the world, and won. You cannot do that and make a mistake.
Hell even most of the comments in this thread about his campaign are just flat out wrong. The biggest achievement he has done is to create a reality distortion field around him. Everyone looks at him and sees something different.
I now rank Trump next to Schwarznegger in terms of lifetime achievements. We are truly blessed to live in a time where both of these men are alive, as well as perhaps the 3rd man to join this elite club. Elon Musk.
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Perfect example was Melania's speech at the RNC. The media actually believed she got "caught" plagiarizing.
The stunt was obviously planned by Trump's team. There's no way they thought they would "get away with it" They just knew it would generate headlines.
dudeguymanthesecond 7y ago
The Democratic party sabotaged Bernie because the Democrats (specifically the party, not the voters) stood to lose much more to a successful Sanders run than to an unsuccessful Clinton run. The only person with the record to support actually reforming campaign finance was Sanders, and that scared the hell out of established powers on both sides of the aisle.
exit_sandman 7y ago
The funny thing from a European perspective is that the journalists here, who have been far to busy over here sucking up to Hillary and depicting Trump as the love child of Saddam Hussein and Satan, totally glossed over that inconvenient fact. And by totally I actually mean totally, i.e. these irregularities weren't just a footnote but they were entirely absent from the reporting. This is even more funny considering that even if they had reported each and every villainy of the Clinton campaign, it wouldn't have made a difference since few US citizen read foreign, non-English newspapers. But they were so obsessed with the idea that Trump had to be prevented at all costs that the censorship probably already started within their own heads.
Let's not kid ourselves: had Bernie taken the nomination, he would have been hailed as the savior chosen to keep The Donald at bay. But since Hillary "won" the primaries, it was her who had to be praised to the heavens. And that's what makes the whole thing so infuriating - they didn't give a shit about her basically stealing the candidacy; nor about the DNC backing her, nor about their colleagues overseas dishing out blatantly biased propaganda (not surprising considering they did the same). For them, the election was a mere formality which had to end in a landslide for Hillary, and everything else was secondary. They ignored their ideological brethren pissing over democratic processes and customs while simutaneously thinking of themselves as stalward defenders of democracy.
Even Orwell couldn't have made that shit up.
potentialz 7y ago
The last sentence in your paragraph is fucking beautiful
FredWeedMax 7y ago
The first paragraph is so true, people here in france don't know shit besides the buzzwords "he said pussy!! uhhh muh sexist/racist guy"
It's unbearable how the media brainwashed people against trump, especially abroad. If i wasn't looking at english medias i wouldn't even know what trump really wants, just the buzzwords
WASPandNOTsorry 7y ago
You wouldn't know anything else from looking at US media either. Alternative media is the way to go.
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dudeguymanthesecond 7y ago
Democrat primaries aren't even close to straight popular votes.
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WolfofAnarchy 7y ago
womAn, not womEn, that's plural
itooktrp 7y ago
And feminists often assume that a 50% minimum of voters are on their side at all times no matter what.
So they would have been expecting a straightforward win with Clinton.
Dravous 7y ago
but we know better though, and so should have these women. women are biased to each other in appearance...(but it's a secret ballot), and when not in view of the sisterhood, their backstabbing would impress a pro-wrestling script writer.
AvengerSentinel 7y ago
You totally nailed it with this post. Bernie was screwed out of the Democratic nomination.
Untimely_Eloquence 7y ago
Both trump and bernie didn't take ANY CORPORATE MONEY. Both of them used their own money and donations.
That is why either of them should be president.
No super packs no sketch "hey im comcast we will give you 10 million but make sure you pass some laws so we can fuck over some people" deals.
They both stayed true.
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Bascome 7y ago
Same, I was going to switch to Gary but with that move I went to Trump instead.
Oftowerbroleaning 7y ago
Lol Bernie is a massive cuck and would have lost to Trump just the same
potentialz 7y ago
This is so bullshit. Bernie would've kicked Trump's ass in the election.
PANDAwaggon63 7y ago
Wouldnt go so far to kick ass. I think Bernie would definitely win. Just don't forget the rednecks in the south trying to keep them commies out of our government
Oftowerbroleaning 7y ago
Hahahahahahahafuckinghahaha
Oftowerbroleaning 7y ago
He couldn't even beat Hillary
potentialz 7y ago
My point still stands and what you said are independent from each other. You don't have to go very far to be educated on why Bernie lost to Hilary. Hint: check this thread
BigBillDoyle 7y ago
Wether Bernie was screwed out of the nomination or not he would have been worse for this country than any of them. I mean he is an admitted socialist for Christmas sake. Socialism is a step toward communism and never helps anyone. I was more relieved when Clinton won the nomination than when Trump won
dudeguymanthesecond 7y ago
Who needs public roads or a standing military not this guy.
ek1995 7y ago
Bernie was not a 100% socialist. He just wanted to allocate taxes to services that people need. We still would've had a free market under him.
BigBillDoyle 7y ago
Any step toward socialism/communism is a step is the wrong direction
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PANDAwaggon63 7y ago
People could say the same about democracy heading to pure democracy which has been known to be bad for numerous reasons .
We are a democratic republic.
ek1995 7y ago
He acts as if democracy doesn't have its own serious flaws.
The two village idiots have more say than the university professor.
Not to mention the electoral college itself.
Bascome 7y ago
So every time we take a step away from communism it is the right way? What if we go three steps too far, still bad to move back towards communism?
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syrupsinker 7y ago
Yeah, it's typical for people to be democrats when they're young and change their opinion as they age, join the workforce.
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Trumps policies are quite socialist anyway.
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in some respects yes, hence why a lot of conservatives said "Never Trump". But the good outweighs the bad.
ek1995 7y ago
You don't know what socialism is.
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Buddy, I am from Sweden, my 60% tax returns tell me I know exactly what socialism is. I am opressed by it
PantsonFire1234 7y ago
Trump like any other red pill men is all about belief. Belief in one's vision of the world and ones opinions. They are confident in what they believe in. Thoughts are a powerful thing because they literally shape the world around us.
I wouldn't be surprised if humans one day learned telepathy, psychic ability or otherwise supernatural techniques. Our way of making thoughts become reality is unprecedented in any other animal on the planet.
Fanatasy role playing aside, I am a firm believer that you can do absolutely anything if you put your mind to it. In the literal sense. I'm not gonna go into specifics but lets just say that I've believed in bizar occurrences in my life and all of them came true.
Likewise Trump really believes in himself and that makes him continuously develop as a human being. That's what makes him so charismatic and godlike. The guy has learned how to refine his own formula for years. He is a leader of men.
The Red Pill stands to learn allot from his frame of mind. If you act accordingly to your thoughts you are set for success. You are set for greatness. This is why white men have been the catalysts in human civilization. Save for a couple of Mongolians and Persians it's been elusively white men who were capable of utilizing their brain for greater good.
In each and every one of us lies unlimited potential ready to be unleashed. The fact that we are unplugged proves this. Don't disappoint your ancestors, work towards a higher goal.
40_SixandTwo 7y ago
I think Trump's brash and outward masculine leadership is what guaranteed his victory. The way I see it, there's some things that all people at their core will always be attracted to. And I don't mean just sexual attraction.
Trump is what everyone whether they realize it or not were looking for in a president. Like you said, GLO, Bernie failed because he still believed the ideas that were hip when he was young were still in.
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In a way, Trump performed meta political dread on the entire nation.
He instilled fear in the weak minded brainwashed feminine humping populace.
By doing so, people are now subconsciously committed to seeing him through - because they fear him.
NeoreactionSafe 7y ago
This is why I see more girls smiling now.
Something clicked... women were stuck in this dying view of reality and now there is this New World and that makes them kind of horny.
Trump brought the Tingles back. (and that's good)
It's like waking up to something good... "Feels Good Man".
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/142/feelsgood.jpg
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rigbed 7y ago
Everyone is crying where I am
NeoreactionSafe 7y ago
They cried the day after.
But by now I'm seeing big smiles.
Many women simply realized that the old shit was no good.
Women want masculine men again... enough of this weird beta male stuff.
Check this out:
http://www.returnofkings.com/100669/what-donald-trumps-victory-means-for-men
nubswag 7y ago
I feel that bro. I'm on a college campus in Colorado and HOLY FUCK this one girl almost fucking cried when I told her I liked trump.
I've mostly just been following the Robert Green Law of power: think what you want but act like others
NeoreactionSafe 7y ago
The college campus tends to get the most brainwashed kids so it makes sense they will need to cry a little before getting over it.
Women are very quick on their little "hamster wheels" and can rewrite things very easily.
Once women see advantage in being feminine they will switch.
The "Bitch Face" is going out of style. (slowly... give it time)
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Indeed, women are so tired of trying to wrap their heads around the spheres of Men. They can't compete and they are so exhausted from pretending that they belong in corporate and academic environments. We showed them that we see through them and we know they're scared little dummies and it's ok. But now that the elephant in the room taboo secret is out in open space, they need to get out of the way, stfu and let the Men lead. It's a beautiful thing. I can't stop smiling either.
NeoreactionSafe 7y ago
Yes... you see that bending thing.
I've got a top level post brewing in my head that will deal with it.
The Blue Pill is the inversion of all truth... it takes a lot of work to create such a complete mythology and not let it collapse.
It's like a "House of Cards".
Women may just want to be peaceful and feminine again... all they need do is stop creating destructive energy and return to the truth.
https://youtu.be/Zk02GZxbJvs
chambaland 7y ago
Women are excellent at competing in academics and business and I'm very sorry that you do think they can be as good as men. Society requires equality to function properly at this point because there is a well documented history of oppressive denial of women's ability to make even basic scientific discoveries. Take Caroline Herschel for example. She was the first woman to discover a comet after Maria Kirch had discovered one in the early 1700's and lived constantly in the shadow of her brother even though she did most of his field observation work for him.
There are also countless examples of female executives in companies and just so you know I am a man that works in a woodshop that makes large shipping crates and my boss is a woman. We have a dancer who isn't more than 125 lbs that cuts, loads and assembles crates that have sides weighing up to 160-250 lbs. It's nice working with women because they balance out a work environment that can be really boring when it's always just guys. I skateboard for exercise and blow glass as a second night job and I also know tons of women who do both of those things quite well and I feel like I should have some idea because I'm 29 and I can still trey flip kicker ramp and raise hell and I've spent 15 years working in production glass, metal and woodshops. I hope you understand that I don't mean and ill will toward anyone on theredpill and I just wanted to tell you a little bit about my life even if your beliefs about women are very different. I've lived long enough to know that there are an equal number of inept men and women in the workforce and you can't let a fee bad apples spoil the more beautiful and kind side of humanity that women truly are.
Hillarysdilddo_2016 7y ago
If this is sarcasm it's brilliant.
You basically said women's biggest accomplishment in science was discovering a comet. LMAO
chambaland 7y ago
Marie Curie discovered radium and polonium and did some of the first research on radiation in history. Rosalind Franklin discovered the structures of DNA, RNA and virsus. Chien-Shiung Wu discovered how to split uranium on the Manhattan project and won the Nobel prize in 1957 for disproving conservation of parity on an atomic scale. Women have no problem competing on academics or science and there are too many women to count that excel at business and different labor positions.
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You must be in a red state. These chicks are acting out like packs of rabid cats where I am.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
Meh. Double down on being a sexist jerkboy. That will keep the express train to Poundtown running.
ChrisBenRoy 7y ago
I'm in Indiana, if it were any more red we'd be a fucking fire truck. Women and gays here are losing their fucking minds. It's wild. They legit are acting like they are going to be put in camps. I'm not exaggerating, that's how dramatic and shit they are being.
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To be fair they are going to lose bullshit fair pay laws that enable their hypergamy and it will no longer be taboo to call out their inferior intellectual aptitude as a reason to exclude them from certain employment opportunities. But that was inevitable and it's not like being relegated to the domestic sphere and being obedient to a husband is exactly slavery. It's embarrassing for them but it ain't slavery. Sadly humiliating them is the only way to wet their pussies on the regular. And as for the gays, big fucking deal so they have to keep that faggot shit confined to the privacy of their home. No ones coming for their dildos or is going to fulfill their gaysecks prison fantasies by locking them up for sausage gargling. Fucking mellow dramatic babies.
NeoreactionSafe 7y ago
I'm in Wisconsin.
It went "blue" in the recent past but just switched to "red".
In fact Wisconsin was a big shift in the Electorial College so we kind of feel proud about deciding the election.
So yeah... we feel good here.
Sorry to hear you are "feeling blue" in a blue state.
fourteenthofjune 7y ago
Weird, at UW-Madison every girl is so triggered. Did you see the protest yesterday?
NeoreactionSafe 7y ago
I'm in a Red Pill area in Wisconsin.
It's a very divided state... Madison and Milwaukee are the big Blue Pill areas.
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Talk about feeling good, I live in PA. That last second switch on Hillary's family's own home state that everyone thought she was sure to win was awesome. I cheered when they painted it red.
NeoreactionSafe 7y ago
It's a great time to be a Red Pill male.
Life will be better than it would have been had Hillary got in there and went about shutting down the Manosphere.
In China they censor everything... we would have gone that way.
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NeoreactionSafe 7y ago
Well and the fact that Trump actually had enough energy to visit.
Hillary was too tired apparently.
I'm very glad Wisconsin made a wise choice.
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NeoreactionSafe 7y ago
I'm sure it was more than that, but the omission of Wisconsin from her travels meant she sent the signal she took the state for granted.
The Democrats were so arrogant and believed the "Legacy News" (CNN, FOX, ABC, etc) so fully that they discounted the internet.
People learned about the "Alt Media" and the Manosphere and started figuring out what was the truth and realized who Hillary actually was. (corrupt)
Plus, the whole Ted Cruz thing was weird.
Why was Wisconsin backing an obvious Establishment insider in the primaries?
I think after that... when people really thought about the Ted Cruz "incident" they kind of woke up.
Anyway... Wisconsin has some unusual stuff going on.
Paul Ryan is a globalist... or better... we might say an "opportunist"... he will do anything to play along.
chambaland 7y ago
This might be the saddest day in American history. While I won't condemn you for squandering our chances at a habitable future I will say that I hope you look good and hard and everything that this man you just elected told you he would give you. Do not forget your choices in life and the consequences they carry.
redestofthereds 7y ago
MODs, can you not delete this comment. I'm getting a good laugh from laughing at his stupid ass.
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ok i'll bite and feed your hallucinations.
What are you talking about and how did you come to that conclusion?
thetotalpackage7 7y ago
How habitable are the inner cities where they are most diverse? I voted to control our borders as opposed to more refugees and unknown border crossers. Tell me again ho cramming in third-worlders enriches America other than lining certain businesses pockets?
chambaland 7y ago
I live in inner city NYC I should know man things are hard but they're hard everywhere.
NeoreactionSafe 7y ago
You must be kidding right?
It was the Alt Right / Manosphere / Alt Media / Red Pill that helped wake people up and get Trump elected.
The beta faggots didn't do this... the masculine men did. (and a lot more women that anyone expected)
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The alt right give into fear and cowardice. They are every bit as weak and pathetic as liberalz. Moreover Trump thinks you - yes you - are a useless eater whose sole worth is to be a wage slave for his higher masters. He is with the elite. Do not be fooled.
NeoreactionSafe 7y ago
Did you cry long after Hillary lost?
It sounds like maybe you need to cry some more... here... take a tissue.
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Trumpsters i.e. you being retarded again. Look at my post history. Hillary is a known pedophile and potentially a cannibal to boot. Along with her lackey Podesta da Molesta.
Honestly I was relieved after Trump won. WW3 has been avoided, for now. However, Trump is the elite's new weapon.
chambaland 7y ago
Trump is the ultimate beta because he constantly has to tell people how big snd strong he is constantly. Real strong people don't ever really have to do things like that my friend.
NeoreactionSafe 7y ago
It's called using "memes".
Memes are what the Alpha male uses to create an "aura" about themselves... it's the "Halo Effect".
Why do so many see Trump as like a god like figure?
Because he plays the part of a god like figure.
The meme of greatness has been his "magic trick" his whole life.
He is a master at manipulation.
The simple fact is it works... he is president.
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LegoCamel6 7y ago
LOL I'm gonna look at it. Its going to be tremendous, TREMENDOUS. Let me tell ya', you'll see everyone will be happy.
Trump's success validates the red pill theory that if you say anything in an alpha way, you'll get masses of retards to follow you. People crave to be told what to do.
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LegoCamel6 7y ago
LOL that's exactly what I am saying. Exactly what the red pill teaches us. That's why you have Jenny sucking Chad's dick all day, even though he doesn't have a job and beats her all day. She is to weak to make her own decisions but when Chad takes her by the pussy she finds her purpose as his cum bucket. Don't feel offended if you voted for Trump, I know plenty of doctors who voted for him just because they hated Hillary (I hate Hillary) but then again, most rednecks voted for Trump because he barked the loudest and most smarts voted for Hillary but they hated them self for doing so.
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LegoCamel6 7y ago
You mad brah? Sorry to break the crystal box you live in.
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LegoCamel6 7y ago
LOL you are the teenager who lacks abstract thinking skills and uses ad hominem attacks instead of arguments. DON'T FORGET TO USE CAPS IF YOU REPLY.
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LegoCamel6 7y ago
Pitiful. Go back to school son, come back when you have enough gray matter. BUT DON'T FORGET TO USE CAPS.
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exit_sandman 7y ago
Only tenuously related to this post, but still funny, since we all like Amanda Marcotte so much.
Her take on Scott Adams' tacit endorsement of Trump:
It's reading stuff like this that makes this week's events worthwhile.
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One good thing from all this: The night of he election just after Trump won she texted me saying 'want to have angry sex?' She is still salty at the result. I support trump but do so secretely so I dont get labelled sexist. Lol!
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nubswag 7y ago
Sounds like he is following the Robert Green Law of power: think how you want but act like others. It's Machiavellian chameleon
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darkblackforest 7y ago
It wasn't so much Trump winning on his "Irrational Confidence" so much as it was Hilary Clinton losing because she couldn't get democrats off their ass to vote.
The voter turnout this year was a 20-year record low. Look at how many people turned out the past two elections as opposed to this one. Also, why are you forgetting that Hillary won the popular vote?
Don't get me wrong, I didn't like either candidate, but there are other forces at work other than "omg alpha male" charisma. People just stopped giving a shit.
TimmyTurnersNuts 7y ago
Hilary wasn't persuasive or charismatic. Say what you want about President Obama, but he was one charismatic, smooth motherfucker. Dude had a Kennedy like vibe and was half black. Boom. Instant turnout
Lsegundo 7y ago
Could the 20 year low be due to the Dems pushing a steaming pile of shit candidate (Hillary) that was also caught cheating during primary elections?
jav253 7y ago
She barely won the popular vote, and got destroyed on a county by county basis. Look at the election results maps. This wasn't even close.
brethrenelementary 7y ago
It doesn't matter if Hillary won the popular vote. The Indians scored more runs in the 7 World Series games than the Cubs did. Should the Indians be the Champs then?
stawek 7y ago
Popular vote is meaningless. If it meant anything then the Republicans of California and New York would actually get their asses off a couch and go vote.
A mere 3% difference in those two super-populated states would give Trump the popular vote. Don't you think there are some 200k more republicans and SJW haters in California and New York?
People played by the rules that are. If the rules were different, the voters would act differently.
exit_sandman 7y ago
This. It's easy to say "Hillary would have won because she got more votes hurr durr" but as long as the US have the EC people will behave accordingly (as a non-American, I nevertheless wonder why you guys still put up with this system, though).
Maybe plenty of Californians of either camp would have voted because they knew their vote would matter (in the words of Homer Simpson "I live in a swing state, my vote is 10,000 times as valuable as that of a Californian!"). Maybe plenty of people who didn't vote for a third party candidate would have done so. Maybe plenty of people who did vote for a third party candidate because they lived in a clearly red or blue state wouldn't have done so otherwise.
Saying "but Clinton won the popular vote" is next-to-meaningless if the popular vote doesn't necessarily reflect the actual preferences and priorities of all voters.
Gadnuk_ 7y ago
Right, "she won the popular vote" is like a losing football team saying "we had more rushing yards"
Congrats I guess but per the rules of the game you still lose
Dr_Frogstein 7y ago
Stealing this thank you friend
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Beachbum74 7y ago
I wonder if Bernie had held frame and just said fuck it, I'm going to keep running. This shit is obviously rigged so I'm going independent just because, maybe he would have set real history. Instead he backed down.
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IDefyAxioms 7y ago
As much as I disagreed with his policies, I had respected Bernie as a candidate and as someone who fought for his ideals.
When that BLM bullshit happened on his stage, when he allowed it to happen instead of having his security team remove them, is when I knew he had no business in the office.
waffles492 7y ago
https://www.facebook.com/viralthread/videos/598130190359668/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED
Sums up the election pretty well
RedEyesBlueShades 7y ago
We very commonly, and rightfully, deride women when they hamster whatever-needs-be to fit their narrative. The same should hold for male hamstering.
This post is male hamestering with whiffs of cognitive dissonance mixed right in, and as such it should be derided. It is not easy to see, because several things are spot on (i.e. Trump forced everyone to play by his game, Trump's ironic similarity with Obama's electoral success), but boy the blunders are gigantic.
Trump is no youngster and only 5yrs Bernie's junior, and his "Make America Great Again" is nothing but offering
It's a change... to the old! To how things were, once upon a time. To the "golden" Reagan era. It's a simple case of crying over what once was, and wanting back. Nothing could be further from "embracing the future". I suspect this is why he appeals to many (not all!!) on TRP, in particular to those who are decrying the "lost patriarchy".
This is TRP, right? Not a place for self delusion, right? Neither the patriarchy nor the Reagan era are coming back. Not with Trump, nor with anyone else. Deal with it.
Trump embodies change in that he's not a professional politician, not in that he will make it happen, he won't. He, himself, is the novelty. His policies and ideas are as old as it gets. What change?
This is perhaps the biggest blunder of them all. Just to point out what should be obvious to everyone, the most common name of right winged parties all over the world is Conservative. What a "conservative" party wants should again be clear to everyone, it's right in name, hidden in plain sight - It's to "conserve" the status quo, not change it.
In the US, the "Grand Old Party" really does not inspire any change. Change is, by definition, NEW. Republicans have "OLD" in the name, ffs!
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, don't let it fool you. It really is a duck.
All of this is not to say that a conservative party is wrong in what they stand for, or believe in. And the current situation is in large part due to the fact that there's been too much change (!!) and change is, at it's core, a prerogative of the left! Change in the traditional roles between men and women, change in what is morally acceptable and what is not, change in what have you. So a return to more traditional values would ultimately likely benefit everyone.
But to say that the left is, at it's core, about conformity with virtue signaling and thought policing is like saying that the right is, at it's core about ethnic cleansing because that's what the Nazis did. (Make no mistake, the Nazis were extreme right, not left.) And let's also not forget that the patriarchal world was a gigantic massive uber conformist world.
Fully aware I am stepping on a good few toes here, but
and hamstering should be exposed for what it is. This is TRP, after all.
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RedEyesBlueShades 7y ago
I had a quick browse and Google to see if I could find something interesting. And boy if I did.
Let's see what history can tell us... in a war torn, economically drained Germany, one of Hitler's key economic policies was autarky, i.e. self sufficiency. You can argue on the semantics, but it's not too far from protectionism. The former includes the latter. And I also know of Trump's supporters who claim the USA should go full autarky.
If you truly believe that Trump is the first one who came up with the idea of closed borders, well... I lived in many countries, EU first and now USA. And you could ALWAYS find politicians who were shouting about closing borders and kicking foreigners out.
Again some history. One of Hitler's promises as he was running for the top job was to get Germany out of the Versailles Treaty. Not quite an alliance for Germany, but it was an "uncomfortable deal" for Germany. The exact same can be said about the "deals" (alliances) Trump was decrying ("They need to pay more for our protection") - They are currently uncomfortable for the US.
So yeah, nothing new with Trump...
And it looks like me, my father and my grand father all had someone in their lifetimes running on economic protectionism, closed borders and pulling out of entangling alliances. (A more recent example, in Italy, is the "Northern League", Google it.)
I also found this absolutely beautiful gem
Hitler promised to restore Germany to it's original greatness and strength
Sounds familiar?
Did not want to compare him to Reagan, just saying that many people expect some new millenium golden era with Trump, much like it happened with Reagan. It won't happen. And I'm willing to bet you on this, put real money down.
Did not say TRP is conformist, it most certainly is not. But as far as conformism in general is concerned, this is the abstarct of a study I managed to find (emphasis mine)
Research has shown that people perceive others as more vulnerable than themselves to media communication, and their political out-group as more vulnerable than their political in-group. In the present study, the authors predicted that the same two biases would appear with respect to another kind of influence--conformity--but that participants' judgments would display a different pattern according to their political orientations. Right-wing and left-wing university students were asked to evaluate conformity and to estimate how conformist they, their political in-group, their political out-group, and other groups are. As hypothesized, right-wingers expressed more ambivalence toward conformity and viewed it less negatively than did left-wingers. Political orientation had no impact on the discrepancy between self and others, but it did moderate the in-group-out-group discrepancy.
The study is Me, us, or them: who is more conformist? Perception of conformity and political orientation. by Cavazza and Mucchi Faina.
Based on the above, it's not surprising that a right wing adherent would be convinced that the left is more gullible - It's what research shows. And this specific research also supports my previous claim - In general, it's the right wing which is conformist. Which is exactly what rural America, who massively supported Trump, is - extremely conformist. Get a job, get a mortgage, get a wife, make babies, go to church.
I don't think much needs to be added on the topic of conformism.
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RedEyesBlueShades 7y ago
Because I'm a secret agent from Ukraine, sent over to get someone elected who will help us get Crimea back. And Trump likes Putin too much for my bosses' liking.
TedTheAtheist 7y ago
Fuck. Will you red pill writers PLEASE stop saying people should put down video games. Porn I understand, but come on.. get with the times.
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afkb39sdfb 7y ago
Was she "literally shaking right now"
Hillarysdilddo_2016 7y ago
Samantha Bee, who's laughing now?
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Mihawk01 7y ago
Haha, Zurinovski, troll level infinity!
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We need more Russians interviewed. Yours is a society of weaponized trolls.
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the most disgusting part was all the guilty white liberals apologizing to their black and latino friends the next morning. i saw many, many posts dedicated around pity towards minorities since trump won. you know, blacks could have voted for clinton? they chose not to because they know she's full of shit. these white liberals are incredibly racist- they act like its completely up to them to vote in the 'right' candidate and if she doesn't get in, then "we're sorry" sub-human minorities- we lost.
samurai69 7y ago
As a minority, I hate it when those white liberals use "racism" or "anti racism" or whatever, just to feel better about themselves. I don't need their help. The political correctness hasn't helped minorities prosper. We (human race) can only prosper by working hard and upgrading our skill sets.
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"Can you believe those sub human minorities called me a racist??"
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A big reason why Trump won is because, as flawed as he is, he was unapologetically masculine and demonstrated that by refusing to be politically correct. That's why he got more white, black and hispanic male votes than any recent GOP candidate and a majority of votes from women who didn't make race their top issue.
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Also the blue pill culture that the left has created does not allow debate. If you say anything that goes against the hivemind, they will insult you or ignore you. They will not make any attempt at rational or logical debate because you've triggered them and they have to go hide in their safe space.
Joe Blow is sick and tired of that, which is another reason he voted for Trump.
NikoMyshkin 7y ago
also, even leftists are tired of leftist bullshit
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No. The real left wing are tired of liberalz and their bullshit.
NikoMyshkin 7y ago
No True Scotsman. At this point, the 'real' left are the minority ie find yourself a new name
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Liberals aren't lefties though. They are racist and buy into capitalism. They are inherently retarded.
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still a lot of salt among black males tho
http://www.theroot.com/articles/politics/2016/11/black-women-were-the-only-ones-who-tried-to-save-the-world-last-night/
it can't be something different than sexism if you don't vote for her. Amazing.
ShouldersofGiants127 7y ago
Shit, I'll admit her being a woman had something to do with me not wanting her as the pres. There were other things that ultimately made that decision easy. Just saying.
NikoMyshkin 7y ago
this pisses me off - disagree with a woman - you're automatically a misogynist. bullshit - hillary was a shit, corrupt candidate. gender was irrelevant.
Drogba006 7y ago
This thought policing is part of it, how sick of it are you? Is everybody? The insults and slander? It's built up for years and the pendulum is about to swing back
NikoMyshkin 7y ago
this is what worries me: human societies tend to swing from one extreme to the other.
WallStRogue 7y ago
Lol...the guy that wrote this article is a sexist race baiter piece of shit.
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flat6turbo 7y ago
wait, .. what
like actual, literal snowplowing? like pushing snow off the streets?
if not, i'm unfamiliar with the term.
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Apparently sidewalks and bike paths should be cleared first, because muh vaginuh
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Nope, vaginuuh is more importanter
gjs628 7y ago
What in Sarkeesian's name is going on here? Feminist snowploughing??! What a pathetic bunch of sexist pigs, how dare they assume that women need men to save them from slipping in the snow! The only real solution here is for all men to be individually assigned a female "snow buddy" who they have to remain with at all times, so that he can carry her across the dangerous snowy streets of the city. But not as a saviour, you understand... as a slave.
Meanwhile, I'll be taking my 36DD snowbuddy and ploughing her upstairs.
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http://www.di.se/nyheter/lotta-engzell-larsson-fler-borde-ha-feministisk-snorojning/
This is from our equivalent of the FInancial Times. You can read it with translate, but I will save you the cancer of both translated text and feminist ideology: Snow affects men and women different, therefore if you plough it differently, you can correct the sexism of snow. AND THIS IS OFFICIAL POLICY IN THE CAPITAL OF THIS COUNTRY. And people ask how Trump won so easily.
no_face 7y ago
Holy shit. Feminism is obviously a religion in Sweden.
Too bad. I'm a big fan of Sweden and am sad to see this situation.
People need something to believe in and guide them and with the fall of Christianity, Feminism has taken over and become the state religion.
Are there no men left in this country? Create your own religion with a male god.
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WASPandNOTsorry 7y ago
Hahah holy shit. Is Sweden a country or is it a joke?
"It's more difficult to walk or ride a bicycle in snow than it is to drive on a highway". Yeah maybe, bitch, but it's fucking life-or-death on the highway. What if somebody needs a fucking ambulance or the police? How fucking retarded are the Swedish people to let this policy go through?
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If you can figure that one out, give me a call and I will run for office. I have been getting flooded with leftwing hate, by people who consider themselves rightwing, because I suggested that Feminist Snowplowing is an illusion, its impossible for snow to be sexist.
WASPandNOTsorry 7y ago
Just abandon ship. It's lost. Go to Norway or Denmark.
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Auvergnat 7y ago
all true except that's not why he won
Trump won because he won the swing states who were a majority of middle class people who need jobs and trump was the only candidate that seemed to care about their plight
logicalthinker1 7y ago
Yeah. It's not like it was a huge wave election for Trump. Clinton just sucked really badly in a few key states. Not because Trump got so many votes. But because she was so pathetic and unlikeable. She's the boring, annoying grandmother that nobody likes. And minorities didn't come out to support her.
Snazzy_Serval 7y ago
Also the majority of those people are uneducated and simply don't know any better.
Trump said so himself, "I love the poorly educated."
Frankly I don't think getting the votes of the ignorant is much of an accomplishment.
MaHamandMaSalami 7y ago
Trump is a master PUA, and his supporters are just the dumb chicks who fell for him.
The is a quote translated from German: "Someone who does not understand the intrinsically feminine character of the masses will never be an effective speaker. Ask yourself: 'What does a woman expect from a man?' Clearness, decision, power and action. What we want is to get the masses to act. Like a woman, the masses fluctuate between extremes .... The crowd is not only like a woman, but women constitute the most important element in an audience. The women usually lead, then follow the children and at last, when I have already won over the whole family - follow the fathers."
I hate to break the news to the "deplorables", but Trump played you. You're the HB7 who got pumped and is going to get dumped. He did his DHV magic, kept frame, went all Alpha, and made you his bitch.
I would guess 90% of Trump voters would have been better served by President Goldman Sachs. Lesser of two evils.
I feel sorry for them, when they find out that Trump isn't the savior they thought he would be, that is going to hurt really bad.
Then again, we don't know WTF Trump is planning to do. Maybe he'll usher in single-payer health care. Maybe he can take on Merck, and Novartis, and Mylan, and Shkreli. Maybe he can take on the medical-industrial complex. He said (before running for office) "they have single payer in Scotland -- works very well."
Libtards worry about him being like Hitler. If only! Hitler made Germany great. He created jobs, the autobahn, and almost united Europe under one leader.
jav253 7y ago
Yep. The Democrats have completely written off rural White America. If anything they despise it an wish it would die off sooner so they wouldn't have to worry about losing an election. They felt their stronghold on urban votes would be enough but they got ****ed hard. Clinton probably lost the moment she said she was going to put Coal Miners out of business gleefully.
Snazzy_Serval 7y ago
What's wrong with witting off rural White America when there are so few of them?
There are more people living in Los Angeles than there are living in Kansas or Oklahoma.
NYC has more people living in it than there are people in each state 13-50 in the US state population list. Wyoming only has 582,658 living in it.
Battle-Scars 7y ago
Where do you think your food comes from?
n_e_c_01 7y ago
In general, you might be right. As far as wining presidential elections, how many people live in LA or NYC does not matter much. California and New York are deep blue states.
To win elections, you need to win the swing states. And in the swing states, the rural population came out in droves won the elections for Trump.
The cities in these swing states are growing. So in the future rural swing state america will become politically unimportant as well.
syrupsinker 7y ago
One dirty bomb and that gets flipped around. Which is likely if you're letting in unvetted immigrants.
Snazzy_Serval 7y ago
That's a completely random reply.
And to let in immigrants without any sort of background check is asinine.
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PowerVitamin 7y ago
Reason had an excellent article on why political correctness was why Donald Trump won. I suggest you read it.
Auvergnat 7y ago
link?
I'm sure Trump gathered a huge vote turnout from people that had enough of PC. But the popular vote went for Clinton overall. Trump won the election because his score in the rural counties of the swing states overcame the low turnout of would-be-democrat voters in the cities of those same states, making those states red, not because the PC rethoric ruffled the feathers of millenials in California, which still voted overwhelmingly blue overall.
PowerVitamin 7y ago
Buy whatever narrative you want. Grab a Michael Moore T-shirt too. America was sick of victim culture and PC narrative; that's why words like "racist" and "misogynist" held no value this election. Not because of some systematic defeat.
http://reason.com/blog/2016/11/09/trump-won-because-leftist-political-corr
Auvergnat 7y ago
Oh you don't understand my point. I totally agree with you and with that article. Even I am one of those left-leaning-person-who-turned-right-leaning-because-I-have-enough-of-the-modern-PC-culture-that-blames-me-for-everything and you can be sure had I been American, I would have voted Trump. I spend a great deal of time on the_donald subreddit and I absolutely love it there.
I totally totally agree with you that the victim culture and PC narrative has turned off a lot of people.
What I don't agree with is that THIS is what would have supposedly made Donald Trump actually win. I would love it if it did, but if you look at the actual results, at the maps of which counties and which states voted Trump. If you look at the overall participation. If you look at the exit polls results broken down by categories of people. And more importantly if you look at which states swings resulted in Trump getting over 270 electoral votes, you can't deny it. It's not about following one or the other narrative, it's about checking the numbers.
And the numbers are that Trump won because he won the Swing States. Look at it. Stop believing what you want simply because it is what you want to believe due to your own information bubble (just like feminists do) and look at the bloody facts. All states were won by the same side they always do except for the usual swing states. Perhaps a lot of people were disgruntled by the PC culture. I'm sure of it too. But the question is: is this discontentment is what made PA swing? what made Ohio swing? Because even if the anti-PC discontentment was huge in CA or NY, it didn't fucking matter, because these are not swing states and they went democrat as they always do: anti-PC people there didn't compensate for the usual, higher democrat turnout.
Feminists believe Trump won because people hate women. Some people maybe do, but where are the numbers that prove it?
You believe Trump won because people hate PC culture. Some people maybe do, but where are the numbers that prove it?
So again, check the actual facts. Check the numbers. Swing States. Rural counties. Popular vote. Participation. The truth of what is really the reason why Trump won is all in there.
thetotalpackage7 7y ago
INterestingly enough, I just read the Bill Clinton, who was actually a right wing democrat by today's standards, was wailing for the last 6 months in campaign meetings about throwing meat to the working class white voters who elected him, only to be shouted down by the campaign chairs that he didnt understand the new democratic coalition.
Why do you think that bitch had BLM and Trevons mom at her "victory (losers)" party and didnt ask for a single police FOP endoresment? She felt she needed to proactively diss whitey to motivate the minorities. Didn't work, but with the present immigration trends, it soon will.
Ronin11A 7y ago
Because Bill knows that "it's always the economy, stupid." The Democrats have bogged themselves down in social causes while forgetting people only care about that shit when they have the time and money to.
Social justice is a fucking luxury.
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thetotalpackage7 7y ago
I think that because he may cutback on illegal immigration but the legal immigration is still a third world flood. The damage is done. Take texas, 70% of kids under 5 are minorities. Where have minorities EVER voted in plurality for conservative principles. Furthermore, here comes the racial red pill that people don't like...Latino IQ averages around 90. They need government intervention and programs to compete and will vote accordingly. Once Texas flips blue, republicans will lose every presidential election from then until eternity.
JudoMonk 7y ago
it is too late unfortunately, Trump is a temporary victory but we will lose this war in the long run due to these demographics
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Politikon 7y ago
Negros? Grow up, this isn't 1940.
ChanmanVXIIX 7y ago
What can you even mean by that? You've got Negros because they were imported as slaves and Hispanics because half the south used to belong to Mexico.
Ignorant people like you are why trump supporters get a bad reputation.
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ChanmanVXIIX 7y ago
How can you not see that your statement is incredibly stupid. Do you even know a bit of American history?
I'm not disagreeing with your points but saying that
is completely retarded, what do you even mean by bring in? Are you aware of how both those minorities ended up that way?
People like you make supporting trump look stupid
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Usecod 7y ago
I am glad that Trump won.I mean for the first time I see candidate triggering both blue and red pill.
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exit_sandman 7y ago
Actually, I can relate to Bernie supporters even better from another perspective - regardless of what I think of the guy himself (I'm fairly indifferent), and regardless of the fact that dudes like Skrillex or Carl the Cuck probably didn't get enough beatings while growing up, I can see why enough of them went ballistic after their candidate has been conned out of the candidacy.
The feeling that you can't vote for the person and the policy you want, and this not because your candidate lost, but because he was conned by a cabal of corrupt bureaucrats because they tacitly assumed you'd vote for them anyway would have induriated me to no end as well.
TheRedStoic 7y ago
Even with financial interests, I couldn't have voted for her. Neither could my family. No fucking way.
I do agree though, total insanity.
redestofthereds 7y ago
One of the ECs here is strongly anti-Trump. I thought I was gonna get schooled by him while debating but no, he just spouted some weak ass arguments wrapped in pseudo-intellectual vocabulary.
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redestofthereds 7y ago
I could've sworn he was Pro-Hillary. Go look in my comments history. You won't have to look hard.
ChrisBenRoy 7y ago
I'm an Obama and Bernie guy, and I'll admit I voted for Hilary only on the idea that Trump handling nuclear weapons is kind of scary and at least Bill may be able to curb an emotional Hilary on that regard.
Looking at how the world has turned out since Trump won, if I could go back and change my vote to him I would in a heartbeat, not that it matters either way.
DigitallyDisrupt 7y ago
Ignorant cuck. Do some reading on how that shit actually works and quit believing everything you see in the movies.
potentialz 7y ago
Same here. I voted for Hilary because Trump was a wild card without ANY political experience. However, I believe he doesnt mean the things he said and is much more democratic than the media lets us believe. Example 1: He recently said he likes parts of obamacare and would rather make changes to it rather than dismantling it completely, which contrasts from what he was saying on the campaign trail.
dinosauralienspirits 7y ago
Its been two days. The guy may be a strong personality but he still wants to dismantle the department of environmental along with half of all other beneficial regulations.
Trump is not a good choice for president.
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ChrisBenRoy 7y ago
Well I mean, we're rational men. That's what we do.
Dr_Villain 7y ago
Scott Adams wrote about Trump's skill of persuasion quite a bit in his blog, it's an interesting read on rhetoric and tactics Trump used. He accurately predicted the outcome of the election quite early on.
On a related note, Scott Adams' novels such as God's Debris and The Religion War are good reads for anyone who likes to ponder about religion and philosophy.
PortiaOnReddit 7y ago
The first book was released for free online. Here it is:
http://www.nowscape.com/godsdebris.pdf
Maybe a 3 hour read. I read slow, though.
exit_sandman 7y ago
http://archive.is/MMB6f
This article about Adams & Trump is just glorious.
_the_shape_ 7y ago
I've come across a few concessions on YouTube, anywhere from a few weeks to a few months back, that Trump is (at least) entertaining, but that they're "going to miss him" (because it's going to be a landslide for HER, right? right??? I mean, come on, like, it's soOoOooO obvious)
Yes, glorious is a great way to put it.
TheJohnDough 7y ago
Politicians are just mass seducers. And Trump simply gave the people the most tingles. Science.
alclarkey 7y ago
Trump didn't win. Hillary lost. The democratic party lost. The democratic party lost because they were crushed by the weight of their own corruption. If the democrats weren't so goddamed corrupt, we would be looking at a Bernie Sanders presidency.
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Best comment ever. I may have said the same thing elsewhere, but I don't know.
brethrenelementary 7y ago
Bernie is too idealistic and he would be a weak leader. Free college for everyone is a horrible idea. Not everyone deserves to go to college. If your GPA in high school is 2.1, college is not for you because high school was too hard for you. Plus, Bernie is weak. He let Black Lives Matter protesters interrupt his rally and he just stood there too afraid to offend them and tell them to shut the fuck up. How's he going to stand up to other world leaders if he can't even stand up to Black Lives Matter?
Bernie being a fucking cuck.
alclarkey 7y ago
You're preaching to choir here bro. I was simply stating the reality of the situation. We have far too many idiots in this country who would have voted for him had he been the democratic nominee.
gjs628 7y ago
Just read an article on Sky News (written by a woman) that says that women can be sexist too. It said that Hillary had focused her entire campaign on impressing female voters so that they'd make her the first female president, yet only 53% of women voted for her, which "must have felt like an incredible betrayal". It reasons that there must be some other factor apart from Trump being a man, perhaps certain policies that appealed to female voters?
It's been proven in various studies that at work, women working for a female boss are way more likely to hate their boss than women who work for a male boss. It came out as something like 3% of women objected to working for a man and they never clashed, whereas it was somewhere in the high 60 percent of women who hated their female boss and would argue all the time.
In short, women do not want to be hard-led by other women. Soft-leading is one thing; in female social groups there seems to be a matriarchal hierarchy, where the older or more popular or even more beautiful one of the group influences the flow of everything. 'But bitch, don't you dare give me orders.'
Women accept men as leaders far more readily. It's a man's role to lead, and it's expected. Could it be that women simply don't want to be dictated to by a woman in power who isn't her? It's also known that women are more than happy to pull down a group member who is on the road of success, to keep her at their level, they will sabotage every effort at her getting a promotion for example.
Perhaps women just wanted to be lead by a man with power, experience, and immense wealth. Maybe they can appreciate a man who cuts through all the bullshit and doesn't engage in the game-playing that's going on all around them. Or maybe it's way more complex than all that.
Best way to find out: in 2020, we get an absolute buffoon who happens to be young, incredibly good looking, and has natural sex appeal... but make his policies the biggest bunch of bullshit ever. See how many women vote with their tingles.
Subtletorious 7y ago
Didn't Canada recently try that?
samurai69 7y ago
I would love to trade our Justin Trudeau for your Ron Paul.
IGoYouStayTwoAutumns 7y ago
Completely disagree.
I'm usually about as apolitical as it gets but even I got involved a bit with this one--fact is Bernie was the only real revolutionary on the stage, a man who (gasp!) wanted to offer us FREE HEALTHCARE and FREE UNIVERSITIES (you know, those things that every other first world country in the world has had for a long time now), but some very rich people might have been slightly less rich after all that so of course he was knocked out right up front.
As for the Trump narrative, it's easy to have iron frame when you truly don't care whether or you win or lose. I had a beautiful plate for about a year a little while ago, a 6'2" model (blonde, beautiful, rail thin, the whole works), really liked her but just wasn't connected enough to her to push for anything serious (we had almost nothing in common). All of my friends marvelled at how easily I handled her, my absolute IDGAF attitude, but I always just laughed and was like "No, you don't get it, I'm not Mr Stone Cold Ninja over here, the reason why it's so easy to own the relationship is because I TRULY DON'T CARE if we keep seeing each other or not." Really liked the girl, sure, but within our dynamic I was the one who cared less (a LOT less), absolutely. And so as a result I ran the whole show.
Trump, of course, is the exact same phenomenon: a guy who got into the race not only with no expectation of winning, but NO DESIRE OF WINNING EITHER. It is a well-established, well-documented fact (google is your friend, everyone) that when he talked to the Kasich camp (auditioning VPs) he told them "Your man will be in charge of ALL domestic and foreign policy. He'll be the most powerful VP in American history." (So basically, the dynamic W shared with Cheney, W was the face, Cheney ran the show.) The Kasich camp came back with "Well what are YOU doing to do, then...??" Trump: "I'm gonna make America great again." (i.e. "I'm gonna handle what I always handle, and what I do best: branding and marketing. All the tough policy decisions I'll leave to you.")
I think it remains to be seen just how conservative Trump's views actually are: we also have video clips of him saying "If I ever ran for office, I'd do it as a Republican, because they're just so stupid, they'll believe anything." And then a few decades later: well look at that, he got the Republican nomination and won the election. But for all the conservatives who voted for him, ask yourselves this: do you really believe Trump is NOT a liberal? Really? Do you? A man (a wealthy elite, in fact THE VERY DEFINITION OF "WEALTHY ELITE") who was born and raised in New York City? (My old hometown where, let me assure you, all the rich and powerful are quite liberal...) We just had a great post on here about Dunbar's number, and how, when you're a city boy, you tend to lean liberal, while when you're a rural guy, you go conservative. Tell me gents, honestly, what's more likely: that Trump really believes in overturning Roe Vs Wade, banning the teaching of evolution in schools, and that climate change is a vast liberal hoax (which somehow every scientist in the world is in on), OR, that, instead, he just told you all what you wanted to hear so he could get in the running, and use the presidential race as a way of increasing his profile and extending his brand, exactly as other rich businessmen have done in the past (the pizza guy, Hermain Cain, did exactly this just a few years ago).
Trump could afford to have "iron frame" in the election, not because the guy's got balls of steel, but because he never wanted the job in the first place. The run was just to extend his brand, nothing more. The fact that he won it by going to a few swing neighborhoods full of poor, white, working class people, and pretending to be one of them for 5 minutes, well that's just the icing on the cake. But if you think he has any interest, at all, in making or passing policy, sorry guys. He's had 50+ years to get into politics, the fact that he's never held office, nor ever expressed any desire to serve, ever, in his entire life, should tell you exactly where his real interests lie. (Well that and him telling his potential VP "I have no interest in politics whatsoever, if I win I'm giving all the policy decisions to you.")
But yeah, his winning the election: I agree, total Red Pill. Game triumphs everything, even the facts. Even truth. Donald's win really was just so incredibly instructive, re: gaming women, and what we talk about here when we talk about sexual strategy. Nobody cares about facts (least of all women), the "real" reality doesn't matter. We really are living in a post-truth age. I've seen a lot of this in LA in the past couple of years, every single young kid who approaches a female friend of mine is like "Yo, I'm a billionaire. Let's go out." or "Yo, I own this nightclub, come by." etc etc. ("Yo, I have a private jet, let's go to Vegas.") These are obviously broke kids who just got off the bus (coming in from Nebraska or wherever the fuck), don't even look the part, but they, like Donald, have finally realized that THE TRUTH DOES NOT MATTER. AT ALL. Tell her you're a billionaire, and YOU BECOME A BILLIONAIRE. Then she can tell her friends "I'm going out with this guy tonight, HE'S A BILLIONAIRE." (Translation: sorry ladies, my guy is higher up the totem pole than your guy, I win, you lose, the end.) The real truth (that the guy is homeless and sleeping on his friend's couch) doesn't matter. She has sex with "the billionaire" and then moves onto the next "billionaire" and that's it--the real reality never intrudes because, honestly, who wants that? The illusion, the lie, is so much more exciting.
Anyway yeah, big victory for Red Pill philosophy, all the way. (Calibrate your game accordingly, everyone. From now on you're a billionaire who, when he's not running his VC, is a rapper / DJ / music producer / motorbike racer on the side, it's all fair game now.) But the fact that our country is now about to be run by a guy who has zero political experience and never even wanted the job in the first place (and will be handing all major policy decisions down to his VP, a bible thumper who doesn't believe in evolution or climate change), yeah, that's a little scary.
Interesting times to be sure...
stawek 7y ago
Free universities are the most immoral form of welfare possible.
Students are either coming from middle class or joining the middle class (once they get their degree). They are not and will not be poor people. They are above average in wealth. As a result, poor people pay taxes to fund rich people's education. Disgusting.
redrummilf 7y ago
The beauty of the Trump victory is that the man has congress on his side. You can say many things about Trump but he is a master at delegation. We all saw that on his Apprentice show. He knows how to evaluate talent and he knows how to run an effective organization from the top down. He does not have to play politics because he controls all of the government. He will pick the proper talent to carry out whatever agenda he wants to carry out. I do agree that we are not sure what that agenda is yet, but I am convinced that whatever it is will be carried out effectively. You don't get this from a "politician". Politicians talk, successful business men carry out their agenda.
samurai69 7y ago
Just wanted to comment on the free universities... this is how the system would usually end up.
1) rejoice for the free universities. 2) universities get huge funding from the government thanks to your taxes. 3) everyone wants to get in. 4) Universities can't accommodate every single applicant.
5) limited number of students accepted per semester through entrance exam. 6) rich kids who went to private schools get better marks and enter the free universities. 7) in a society where even more people have degrees, everyone has to have some kind of a degree to get a job 8) poor kids who went to public schools will have to go to private college to have some kind of a diploma so that they can be employable.
Results: rich kids go to the free universities while poor kids go to private schools.
Source: it's been implemented in Brazil, and that's how it works.
IGoYouStayTwoAutumns 7y ago
Countries all over the world have free universities, is this really how it always ends up? Hell, I met some Scandinavian girls in NYC years ago who were studying there on their country's dime, and us Americans were just flabbergasted: like, not only was their education (in NYC) being paid for, but all their travel and living expenses too. They were like: "Yeah, we're students, our country pays for us if we want to go to uni at home, and if we want to travel and study abroad, our country pays for all that too." As someone who dumped about a quarter mill into his education and got nothing out of it save a pretty awesome party that ran for several years (and I want to some of the best schools in the world--never ended up using any of it in real life, though you could argue that's my fault for picking the wrong degree), I always thought uni should be free for all, provided you maintain a respectable GPA (obviously if you're just there to slack off and drink all day, and you can't make it in your classes, you're just wasting everyone's time and should get the boot).
To be honest this is a subject I wish knew more about (had more hard data on) and I don't, I agree if there are limited slots and if it's a simple meritocracy the rich kid is gonna have the advantage getting in (because the rich parents are gonna hire expensive tutors to see that the kid aces the admissions process). I really do believe that education should be the great leveler, that everyone should have it starting out (within reason, if you want to go to "rock star school" that's on your own dime). But yeah, how to implement it so it's truly open and fair to all, that's a tricky one. Again, how do all the other countries do it?
samurai69 7y ago
That sounds rosy, but in Scandinavia, the rich - poor gap is fairly narrow and you probably don't have to go to a private school to be competent in uni. And their population is much smaller and spend way less money on other social welfare to "help the poor". But that's not the case in the US, or to a certain extent, in Canada as well. Scandinavians can afford it.
In Germany, some universities are free and others are also very affordable, and living in a university residence also helps keep the living cost to minimum. But at the same time, the student lifestyle is so comfortable that many students don't graduate fast, some even enter the work force at the age of 30 after graduation, whereas North American students would start working much earlier to become productive members of the society.
And in those countries, you are expected to have a degree before even looking for a job. And because everyone has a degree, you don't have much edge over others just because you graduated from a university.
In North America, you CAN succeed without post secondary education if you work hard at something, for example programmers. Not all successful programmers are computer science graduates. Many are self taught and have decent jobs. I'm not saying you can become a lawyer or a doctor by watching tutorials on YouTube, but if you are serious about becoming successful, there are opportunities for everyone.
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I voted for Trump not only because he's alpha as fuck and is a representation of a lot of things taught in TRP, but because he literally has no background in politics - he was just another American that said enough is enough and had the clout to be able to run and fund his own campaign. The dude is a rock and really stands for a lot of American ideals. He gets a lot of hate from the people that don't understand anything about how the world works, just like we here do, but deep inside people know he's right.
Not to mention him winning really helped me weed out all the fucking idiots on my Facebook friends who ware whining because they're all so misinformed and stupid that they think all other races than white and all women are suddenly going to get deported or turned into slaves. Holy fuck the world today is sad. Hopefully he can help fix it.
afkb39sdfb 7y ago
I'm getting a real good laugh out of all the people spewing how Trump is going to make gay marriage illegal and put Transgender in concentration camps. "I'm literally shaking!" LOL
These people are so out to lunch and disconnect from reality.
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I don't understand where they got these ideas. I just watched a speech where Trump was talking about Islamic radicalism in the US, and right after he was talking about that LGBTQ nightclub in Orlando that got shot up by the Muslim radical, he vowed to do everything in his power to protect the LGBTQ community from Islamic radicalism.
afkb39sdfb 7y ago
They have no good reason to hate him, so they have to manufacture reasons.
youssarian 7y ago
Trump applied several of the Laws of Power. It's really interesting to watch in retrospect.
7thAnvil 7y ago
One Wednesday morning I sent the same exact text to 3 plates, a potential plate, and an ex-plate. Each of these women were indifferent or anti Trump prior to the election. My text said "TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP! Next time I see you I'm going to grab your pussy to celebrate." I expected at least one or two negative reactions/ignores. Yet by Thursday night I received a positive or at least "Lol you're funny" type response from every last one.
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VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
Trump won because he saw something nobody else saw. He won because the snooty, high and mighty liberals who are smarter and More Virtuous than everyone else expected the white working class to vote for their own destruction and then say thank you and then STFU.
The liberal smarty-pants have nothing but CONTEMPT for guys who work for a living, and those guys are smart enough to figure it out. Why? BECAUSE EVEN A DOG KNOWS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING ACCIDENTALLY STEPPED ON AND KICKED. That "Basket of Deplorables" remark really hurt Hillary more than she thought, and the Dems didn't figure it out until the Deplorables had gathered up their torches and pitchforks, crossed the moat, and canceled Queen Hillary's "coronation".
Trump won because ONLY Trump could win. The Proles have figured out that the Dems hate them, and aren't for the little guy anyway, and that Conservatism, Inc. while it at least doesn't hate them, doesn't care about them. Trump was an iconoclast in a year where the people said "FUCK YOU!" to the elites. And let's face it, the elites are bad at running things: they suck at running the UN, they suck at running the EU, they suck at running the Olympics and they suck at running western democracies.
What happened? A bunch of guys who wear Carhartt jackets and workboots, who drive pickups and hunt and fish, who WORK for a living and think that yeah, you SHOULD stand for national anthem said 'Enough is enough!' And they SCHOOLED a bunch of whining, entiteled SJW pussies who have the emotional maturity of colicky two year olds--that's why they're having a massive "Democrats Against Democracy!" tantrum at the moment.
And I hope they keep doing it, because screaming and yelling "RAYCISSSSSSS!" at the working class is exactly why the just got butt fucked in front of God and Everybody on Tuesday.
Stay Deplorabe, my friends!
TheRedThrowAwayPill 7y ago
That's only HALF THE STORY!
There are many many "liberal" people (who voted for Obama) that can't stand the SJW/BLM/safe spaces bullshit anymore.
It's too much.
Our colleges are ruined. Our workforces are being infiltrated by too much of it. They were now getting into our sports entertainment and daily lives. WTF?!
It's just too much.
We had to press the reset button on the whole thing.
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Yes. I don't care if Trump is owned by the Rockefellers. I mean I would like that he isn't, but it was him or another 4 (minimum) years of further and further divisiveness. Look at the race riots that Obama encouraged, and think of a Lysistrata-style SJW movement spearheaded by women. That's what Clinton would have heralded.
el_Technico 7y ago
This is a much bigger discussion but for simplicity I'll just focus on the events of the past week.
Trump is backed by the Rockafellers. It's how his family got rich, he is their stooge.
In the past week in America the elites achieved two things:
I'll expand on those two points. Not only did the elites set the rules for the election, they picked the main player participants, promoted them, and excluded everyone else from having a chance at the office. The common man has no say in this system, and merely votes to legitimize the rule of the elites. Trump is going to massively cut their taxes, which means the common man will have to pick up the slack.
Caused the stock market to crashed twice in the last week based on nothing more than speculation caused by the mass medias propaganda. Both times the elites bought in on the cheap and almost immediately saw the market bounce back for gain. They through their special institutional rules bought in at market close and prior to open when most people don't have access to the market. In effect they made a massive amount of money, and normal people who bought into their propaganda lost money.
I wouldn't consider that a bad week of running things for the elites.
jav253 7y ago
So true, and let's just take a moment to appreciate just how HARD they did get buff fucked. They lost the Senate/House too. First time the government has been in full Republican control since 1928. LMAO
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
Actually, the popular vote was pretty much even, but Trump improved in the "Brexit" states. It just feels like a "Trump-quake" because everyone expected Queen Hillary to be crowned. They never saw it coming.
The GOP controls both the House and the Senate. The GOP took back the as a result of the 2014 mid-term elections in which they picked up 9 seats, and the House since 2010.
People keep saying that, but there were GOP majorities in both the House and the Senate from 2003 to 2007, when GWB was president.
ChrisBenRoy 7y ago
The craziest thing to me about this entire thing is that in the one night he was elected, the ENTIRE paradigm of hate, racism, ignorance, sexism, and bigotry was completely flipped upside down and did a 180. Now if you were a Trump supporter or voted for Trump you are automatically a sexist, racist, anti-gay white male shitlord. All those people who hated Trump for being intolerant suddenly became COMPLETELY intolerant of anything and started firing off blanket statements and stereotypes like it was a fucking minigun of hate.
Yes, a lot of backwoods idiots who are racist probably voted for Trump. A lot of homophobic ignorant clowns probably voted for Trump. But so did lifelong Liberals who got tired of defending these people who continued to damn them and vilify them simply because they were born a while male.
It was as if the double standard got shifted WAY into overdrive and what was the "villain" to society has now become the "victim". The amount of nutjobs calling for the extermination of the white male after that election was STAGGERING.
It's the most fascinating thing I've ever seen in my life.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
The Left is incredibly invested in their own Moral Vanity. They have to believe that THEY are the Best People. And for them to be the BEST someone else has to be BAD. And that someone else is white people who are NOT liberals.
In fact, that's why "White Privilege"--which is a made-up, propaganda term, was invented, so "good" whites (liberals) could "white-shame" the "bad whites" (CIS-gendered white male shitlords, anyone who works for a living, etc.)
Now, one can say, "NO FAIR! WHITES HAVE IT EASIER IN THE USA!", but that's true of the majority or native populations EVERYWHERE. There is nothing inherently bad about white people, despite what the SJW fucktards want to claim.
And who, exactly, does a better job of trying to treat people fairly, regardless, with an eye towards doing better?
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Exactly.
But hey, if the libs want to scream "RAYYYYCISSS!!" and "BIGOT!" etc. at the Proles, fine. They will do a better job of creating a Permanent GOP Majority than the GOP will. Because the mask came off and the Left really showed how much they despise working-class whites, and that's why they voted for Trump. Even white women smartened the fuck up and voted for Trump (53% overall, 51% of those with college degrees and 62% of women without college degrees).
The Left showed their hate for the white working class, and they got Payback Tuesday.
OSaraiva 7y ago
They were always deeply intolerant, this "fascist" leftist movement didn't flip after the loss, it just intensified and true colors were shown.
Jeff_Minch 7y ago
Doesn't a ban on all people from a particular religion from entering the country constitute racism? What about not renting thousands of apartments held by trump management co in the 70s to black people, and only changing that practice after a justice dept inquiry?
I don't know about trump supporters, but trump himself has clearly said and done racist things. I completely get why liberal minded people tag him as a racist.
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MrExpress 7y ago
Guys have been fucking guys and women fucking women for thousands of years. Move to Russia if you hate gays so much, this is America.
thekingmaker88 7y ago
Brainwashed by the leftists yet it's always the conservatives who have some homosexual scandal come out in the news.
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There's nothing natural in wearing glasses, yet we still do it. There's also nothing natural in fucking just for pleasure (i.e. with condoms/contraceptives), and even you probably do it!
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Dickwad 7y ago
so you're equally outraged by heterosexual anal sex of course...? or anything other than missionary with the lights off for the purpose of procreation right? I'm sure you're philosophically consistent and not just some busybody loudmouth dumbass right?
fenghsui 7y ago
People can fuck whoever they want bro. This is Murica. Shame homos if you want, I don't care. But there is no such thing as natural. There's only the demands of social intercourse, the demands of physics and biology, the demands of logic and language, and the demands of your emotional and egoic needs. Just cuz SJWs miss the demands part doesnt mean that nature said x is true and hallowed forever blah blah. "Nature" is a construct.
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MaHamandMaSalami 7y ago
If I had a buddy who was talking like you, I would take him aside and say "you know, when you go off like that, it makes everyone think that you are ... y'know, lovin' the cock." It's kinda unfair, I know, but that's what everyone thinks.
Then again, with a screen name like "BobSagetTheFaget" maybe you should just drop the pretext and get yourself a Grindr account.
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MaHamandMaSalami 7y ago
Don't get so defensive! Nothing wrong with being gay. You go and be as gay as you want to be.
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The only people that are that adamantly vocal against homosexuality are either dumb, or secretly worried that dicks are delicious. Which camp are you?
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Keep fighting that urge, buddy.
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infiniteslinky 7y ago
You should try to express your ideas with less cliches.
Who exactly got schooled? Minorities? Poor people? I still don't really know. The middle class?
I think you need to stop for a minute and try to figure out who "us" and "them" are. Because I guarantee you, Donald Trump is not one of "You"
fenghsui 7y ago
If there's an us vs you it's this:
You: people who blame the environment
Us: people who blame themselves.
The first is sucker mentality. The second is winner mentality. Instead of saying "oh why is that hot girl with such a fucking thuggish jerk, doesn't she know a nice guy like me would treat her better," we say "Grats jerk guy. What can I do to learn from you, how can I become better?"
This is the common ground between Trump and TRP. It's not the muslim immigrants fault, it's not the elites fault, its not the SJWs fault, its only ever our fault, and our task to fix it.
thekingmaker88 7y ago
I'm sorry, this is the common ground? Trump is blaming tons of shit on Mexicans and Muslims. That's like half his platform.
infiniteslinky 7y ago
That was at least interesting to read. Thanks.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
If I need your help, Timmy, I'll be sure to let you know.
Then maybe you don't read good. The liberal elite and their SJW allies got schooled.
I think you need to figure out that you're not here to educate other people....
infiniteslinky 7y ago
Who are you so mad at? Why are you mad? Do you just enjoy being mad? Does it make you feel right?
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
I ain't mad, bro'. I'm gleeful. In an incredible, come-from-behind victory, my team WON. I'm watching the SJW meltdown and enjoying a giant glass of Schadenfreude.
thekingmaker88 7y ago
The GOP has been conning poor white people into voting for them for a long ass time now. "Trickle down economics," hahaha. Republicans don't give a fuck about you. A "billionaire" with an ego larger than TRP combined does not give a fuck about you.
beAn0n 7y ago
And I don't want the government to give a fuck about me. This statement is against the epitome of TRP. You don't get it. You're ON YOUR OWN. No fucking help. Your life is yours to control.
The Democratic Party is nothing but the nurturing party. GTFO
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Are you one of those useful idiots who thinks anybody has ever had a policy called "Trickle down economics"?
Snazzy_Serval 7y ago
I'm shocked and dismayed how many people believe that the GOP is on their side. The GOP is the party of the very wealthy. If one does not earn at least $200,000 a year they receive absolutely no benefit for voting conservative.
Stuff_About_Stuff 7y ago
Understand this. The businessman is always ahead of the politician because he has to be or he loses everything he worked for. The politician only has to sit back and collect money so he has no motivation to be smart. Many business owners that conduct business here take that money off our soil to tax dodge (because he has to be ahead of the politician). Trump is giving tax breaks to the rich so the businessman has incentive to come back. Businesses that operate here = jobs for us. God damn some people cant think out of the box.
milano_siamo_noi 7y ago
So like Reagan and W Bush if one thinks outside the box
5850s 7y ago
The economy is a lot more complicated than you make it out to be, with this comment.
People who are smart enough to make 200k+ a year having extra money, might benefit some people who don't actually make 200k a year themselves. There are many ways this can happen. I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader to think of examples.
Snazzy_Serval 7y ago
Also known as Reaganomics.
It completely failed.
thekingmaker88 7y ago
The premise behind trickle down economics is that giving more money to rich people means they'll hire more and pay higher wages. The first part might be true because of their expanding business but they are not going to raise wages. It's a complete fallacy. Giving rich people more money generally just means only they are getting more money. They're not trickling it down, they're keeping it for themselves.
5850s 7y ago
So we should give the extra money to the poor people? Who didn't earn it?
thekingmaker88 7y ago
Yes, if the government is going to give money to people, they should give it to the poor. Not only do they need it more, they have a higher rate of consumption than rich people do so it stimulates the economy more.
Rich people wouldn't have "earned" the money from the government either.
DigitallyDisrupt 7y ago
Shhh, part of the reality distortion field.
thekidracb 7y ago
Like trickle down economics?
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[deleted] 7y ago
I too have irrational self-confidence... but I too am a narcissist so there is that.
What I would note is that men love Trump because we haven't had a presidential candidate with some actual balls in a while. Is he flawed? Yeah. But so is everyone. Tell me -nicebeast, if you had every media outlet in the country, along with millions of people and their social media accounts, calling you a rapist, how would you react? How would your day even be? As much confidence as I have in myself, I'm pretty sure I would breakdown. If I was running for office like Trump was, I would have stepped down after that scandal. I'm pretty sure Trump almost did too, but he got passed that.
So far, those who have attempted to manipulate Trump have been burned. Except maybe Putin but I honestly cannot trust the media or even the so-called "intelligence agencies" to know if Putin is masterminding Trump. He does support Trump but that is different from puppeteering. He supports Trump for thesame reasons many of us do (or atleast did). Hillary would mean war with Russia. Hillary would mean war with TRP too because Feminism would be at the greatest it ever was under her rule.
Mukato 7y ago
this is my thought pathway also: Putin knows that Trump will negotiate with him, while Hillary was dead set on war.
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EpicLevelCheater 7y ago
You're out of here, faggot.
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EpicLevelCheater 7y ago
A faggot unbanned is a prayer unanswered.
TheRedStoic 7y ago
A devil gets his flings?
Oh no, Sorry, misread that. You're still right.
exit_sandman 7y ago
I used to say "everytime XY happens God lets a kitten be born".
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Dr_Frogstein 7y ago
Yea, lots of contrarian BS on TRP about this. The weight of this particular election can not be understated. Countless things will be changed to varying degrees around the world. Trump was victorious, and I think that success will continue to trickle down, consider the what we've already seen.
el_Technico 7y ago
"Everything that made Trump seem unelectable and ridiculous, is what made him succeed."
Trump was elected because he is backed by the Rockafellers and as such had massive mainstream media support propagating his campaign for the last two year.
Imyourbuddy 7y ago
You are so out of loop if you think Trump has had a "massive mainstream support" when literally his whole campaign was being smeared with shit by the same media. Propagating his campaign? You mean calling him a sexist, racist bigot throughout the election. Honestly I still don't know how he pulled that one when he ran against the DNC,GOP, and pretty much the whole establishment. And won. Lmao
el_Technico 7y ago
CNN, FOX, MSNBC. If they were really against him and wanted to stop his movement they would have ignored him and not given him free publicity, similar to how they ignored the independents and smaller named democrats and republicans. Any press is good press. True independents not associated or representing the elites agenda are not permitted to attend debates, and get little to no coverage. They are in effect censored and not promoted.
Imyourbuddy 7y ago
During primaries each and every Republican and Democrat had a fair shot media wise. I don't know what news stations you watch but Cruz, Rubio, and Bernie's coverage was equally represented in my eyes. The thing is, Trump running for president was initially a joke. People were actually cheering and was pushing him on just because "lol trump's running for president". People thought he wouldn't get this far let alone win the election and become president-elect. And saying any press is good press doesn't apply in here. This is an election not celebrity news. The negative press that somehow got through the media (the Clinton emails for example) had a negative effect on Hillary's campaign but that was the tip of it that the journalists never went even further about. The amount of fabrication and shit smearing on trump's campaign on the other hand calling him Hitler, Satan, and a blight to society was on a whole new level in news stations, except maybe FOX news.
el_Technico 7y ago
Donald Trump got more media coverage than any other Republican candidate from the onset of their respective campaigns two years ago. There is a rolling stone article detailing how trump got himself into a position to get the nomination for the republican party and the conclusion is his superior media coverage. Again if he was a true independent and outsider he would have been ignored like the other real independents were.
samurai69 7y ago
What "mainstream media" are you talking about? All I saw in the media was bashing him endlessly, while putting Clinton on a pedestal like a saviour.
The clique you are talking about where Rockefellers hang out is where Clintons and Bush's belong to.
el_Technico 7y ago
CNN, FOX, MSNBC. If they were really against him and wanted to stop his movement they would have ignored him, similar to how they ignored the independents and smaller named democrats and republicans. Any press is good press. Yes trump is in the same click with the Clintons and Bushes. They are all Freemasons.
samurai69 7y ago
No one knows for sure, but he doesn't appear to be one.
https://www.quora.com/Is-Donald-Trump-a-Freemason
And what you should be looking at is the Bilderberg Group, not the Freemasons.
el_Technico 7y ago
To become the president of the united states you have to be a 32nd degree freemason. Trump is a freemason.
samurai69 7y ago
"Abraham Lincoln was not a Freemason. He did apply for membership in Tyrian Lodge, Springfield, Ill., shortly after his nomination for the presidency in 1860 but withdrew the application because he felt that his applying for membership at that time might be construed as a political ruse to obtain votes. He advised the lodge that he would resubmit his application again when he returned from the presidency. Lincoln never returned."
http://www.mastermason.com/wilmettepark/pres.html
el_Technico 7y ago
That is a misinformation web site, and is not to be trusted.