Hi guys, Before I get pummeled for bringing up politics, I want to say that politics ARE important. I am not a citizen but I fear for what kind of example US will set if Hillary is president.
I started out as a Hillary shill thinking she was the "safe" choice, but once I saw how the DNC manipulates the media to cover some BS "groping" and "kissing" stories that have all proven false, it got my blood boiling hard. I went over to (subreddit)wikileaks, and that led me to (subreddit)the_donald, and as hard as it is to say (mostly because I disagree on tax policy and climate change), I give the Donald fans all my support.
But more broadly, what does it mean for MGTOW/TRP? Here are some concerns:
- the liberal media is in bed with the government, and under a democratic Hillary government you can be sure women's issues will be at the forefront
- what does it mean for jobs and affirmative action?
- what does it mean for laws, will men be prosecuted more harshly?
- will the status quo be such that men are no longer trusted. Look at how far the allegations got before they got discredited. 3 days of full coverage, where was "innocent until proven guilty" in all this
- look at how much of a fuss the media makes when we say "locker room talk", even male white-knights are condemning this, whereas we all know it's perfectly harmless and doesn't mean anything
- what will it mean for political correctness movements?
- will MGTOW/TRP become an easy target for the media?
I can foresee public shaming and stigmatization. Anyways lads, I'll tell you, you spend ALOT of energy on this sub pouring your hearts about about TRP issues, but here is your opportunity to do something. It may very well be that a Trump government is no better than a Hillary one for TRP, I really don't know, but reading (subreddits) wikileaks, the_donald, conspiracy, and watching how the mainstream media has been handling things, I feel we are headed down a dark path.
I am trying to pass this info along in hopes that people will go out and read this information and make conclusions for themselves. If I am in the wrong for posting this here please feel free to downvote or remove my post - but I feel it is important for men in this (US, but foreigners take note) country to understand the front that might be mounting against them with a feminist potential president.
Thanks for reading. Also thanks for the gold, just wanted to get the word out!
[deleted] 7y ago
Politics and TRP are inseparable. Politicians want power. What is one of our favorite books here?
It is crucial that we understand the consequences that come along with electing whoever may be elected in the coming weeks. A citizen who is not well educated on political matters in their country is no citizen at all.
Now, in regards to the American election... What a mess. Clinton is far and away one of the most corrupt and power-hungry candidates that America has ever seen. The O'Keefe videos as well as many things revealed by Wikileaks show just how far the Clintons will go in order to achieve power.
And in a sense, I really admire the Clintons for their dedication to maintaining power (do a little reading on their relationship, it's more fascinating than a season of House of Cards), I also understand that the Clintons simply are unfit to wield power due to all of the things that we have known, and have now been confirmed by Wikileaks and the O'Keefe videos.
And this is where it gets tricky.... I know this sub has a thing for Trump. I know there is a lot of crossover between here and the_donald. I really do not believe that Trump is smart enough to be POTUS. The fact that he is struggling against Hillary - a candidate with so many scandals and obvious flaws that many people have written books worth on - is a very bad sign. How will he ever deal with international leaders if he can't even deal with her? On top of that, he is a very poor communicator for how successful he has been in business. Watching him speak at the dinner last night, you'd see him looking down and reading all of his jokes, rather than speaking as naturally and fluidly as you'd expect someone who is a world class businessman to be able to.
Trump is easily baited, taken off of message, and then disposed of easily by a politician who has a horrible track record and has many targets on her back - he will be destroyed by international leaders who are far more clever and far harder to attack. He lacks the things that are required to get my vote (and so does she, so I believe that I will be sitting this one out). Despite that fact that a Clinton presidency terrifies me, in many ways a Trump presidency terrifies me even more.
DrunkWiseman 7y ago
Agree on the easily baited part, and the temperament, but the way he was reading the speech last night is an exception likely because he had very little time to prepare. There are plenty of very good rally speeches where he does very well.
He is still learning, given how far he's come from the 1st to the 3rd debate. I'm not saying he's perfect, but I think he'd do just fine with other politicians. Regardless of whether you agree or not, you should still go vote. You cannot get moral immunity by sitting it out, sometimes we need to make the hard decisions.
[deleted] 7y ago
For a guy who's username is The 48 laws you don't really seem to grasp them in action.
How do you know? because of the media polls? which you know lie non stop.
Look at this If that's not a reflection of the current state of US politics I don't know what is. You have two talking heads yammering on about a reality that doesn't not exist, and despite the crowds literally metres away.
Which shows that reading very slowly and deliberately was a deliberate tactic. If I had to guess to remove the possibility of anyone claiming he was "ranting" or "off the cuff/prompter again" It removed that as an option to decry it.
Like he has been doing with business heads for years, you don't deal with international leaders by ignoring them and campaigning for votes for years.
What are you talking about that gives you this impression? Trump's persona is "strong" and, as he has written about decades prior, he won't allow people to make attacks on him unanswered. And the implication is that he won't allow attacks on America to go unanswered.
He attacks his enemies and rewards his allies. That is the oldest law of power in the book.
In what universe does Trump go off message? What do you think of when you think of Trump?
Make America Great Again
Build the Wall
Defeat ISIS
Bring Jobs Home
Literally everything he does is about repeating his core messages.
The fact that you are saying these things, apparently seriously, makes me wonder just how much CNN you watch.
What is it that would make you vote for him?
[deleted] 7y ago
So I was just checking the Donald for the first time... Shit is that real? Hillarys corruption? Inciting violence at Trump rallies? Rigging polls?
HumanSockPuppet 7y ago
It doesn't seem real because we haven't heard the mainstream media reporting on it.
The mainstream media is mostly controlled by shadow government interests.
Think about that.
[deleted] 7y ago
you got a lot of catching up to do centipede.
But as Han Solo said, it's real, all of it.
landon042 7y ago
I thought everyone knew. Rip
My thoughts on this have been. in the past we knew hillary/obama made stupid policies, took in money for elections, makes deals with big daddy pharmacy companies.
But we didn't know ALL OF THIS SHIT IN OUT IN THE PUBLIC AND NOTHING IS HAPPENING
so now we have a situation where many could possible wake up, it's not a question of are they corrupt anymore
it's a question of can we stop it?
And no we can't, that's the scary part. FBI, CIA all these things are involved in this. so now we have many people waking up, probably not, but us that are now woken up,
now realize we are basically enslaved, shit's in public. and.....
Hillary doesn't care, it's rigged she knows she wins. and we can't do SHIT about it
We are fucked
Whisper 7y ago
Go look at "Project Veritas" on youtube.
-TempestofChaos- 7y ago
Read the WikiLeaks. Inform yourself. But yes it's all real. Well what we can verify so far
bowie747 7y ago
Many of us have been following all that for months.
She's as crooked as they come buddy.
goldnhorde 7y ago
Hillary Clinton and the democratic party as a whole have gotten a rather long history of manufacturing public events and the making sure the media refers to them as grassroots. there are in fact professional protestors (both violent and non violent) that are on the payroll.
their job is to then mobilize as much "free talent" as they can. Bussing people in, paying people to come to rallies if needed, providing all of the capital for food, drink, signs, etc.
they are organizing riots in the community ..... I guess you could call them community organizers.
[deleted] 7y ago
Absofuckinglutely. Mainstream media report NOTHING of this corruption and wiki leaks yet this information clearly implies the DNC and Hillary camp are committing acts of terrorism and fraud.
[deleted] 7y ago
If you haven't done so for yourself, the name of the main guy behind the video leaks is James O'Keefe. Here's the link to the channel he's been distributing the video leaks from:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEE8w-v6Gg4j3ze3oX-urEw/videos
After you're done viewing these and following him on twitter, welcome aboard the Trump train :)
I would also strongly suggest you look up Donald's recent policy release on Ethics government. Also, he has offered a route for establishing terms within Congress, to eradicate the incentive to be a career, crony politician.
Original_Dankster 7y ago
Yes. It's real. Unfortunately, that's the state of the union...
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[deleted] 7y ago
Its pretty fucking real. I'm assuming you've seen the o Keefe videos?
[deleted] 7y ago
Will view rest when I get home. I saw the one at the front page though.
blackjackANDplates 7y ago
See this vid, 5min: This election will determine whether we are a free nation or whether we have only the illusion of democracy, but are in fact controlled by a small handful of global special interests rigging the system
BigBillDoyle 7y ago
"If voting made a difference it would be illegal"
DrunkWiseman 7y ago
I was going to ask if you were being sarcastic. See this is exactly the problem, some people just don't know about this stuff. It's real, and it has been coyly covered on CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/18/politics/project-veritas-action-robert-creamer-donald-trump-rallies/
[deleted] 7y ago
I wish I was being sarcastic... I didn't think Hillary would stoop to such levels.
for_the_donald 7y ago
And if TRP, a subreddit with a cynical outlook on politics, doesn't know about Project Veritas, then think about how uninformed the average voter who gets all their information from CNN is. Scary.
jackandjill22 7y ago
Exactly, the average American has no idea how corrupt Fucking Hilary Clinton is.
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I was at one of these events and it was very clear to me what was happening. At a Trump rally I was at a lady who was black and large pushed though the crowd yelling raciest slurs, (something you would never do as a white in a black crowd might I add you would get killed) just begging to get punched, hit, and pushed. Thousands of phone cameras waving I the air recording so they know it will be on video. Despite the whole scene being quite clear to me many people who saw it all where asking "What was that?", "Why would she do that?", etcetera. Not only that a while later at a Bernie rally I was spat on and called a sexist.
haxurmind 7y ago
I didn't know the name, but that is the least important detail anyway. The rest is obvious when you observe things without emotional bias.
[deleted] 7y ago
Do a bit of research. That women is an absolute parasite. The Clinton foundation is used to sell her secretary of state status to the highest international bidder. It's a complete and utter criminal enterprise.
DamienSalvation 7y ago
What happens if I did a bit of research and came to a different conclusion?
4D6N2 7y ago
Then you should reevaluate what you think "research" and "conclusion" mean.
PaulAJK 7y ago
Why don't you give it a try?
DamienSalvation 7y ago
I did. Donald Trump is a fat loser who can't hold frame. If he didn't have money you would think he's a beta bitch.
PaulAJK 7y ago
I agree he can't hold frame which is why he'll probably lose, but it seems you haven't looked at all the shit around the Clinton foundation and all, as you talk about him, not her.
Go and spend a few hours reading about the endless Clinton scandals, and you may change your mind.
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alpha_n3rd 7y ago
If wearing a "planned parenthood" t-shirt is "inciting violence", fuck you, and fuck trump. If it weren't for planned parenthood I'd be paying child support right now.
At least this guy is out and Hillary has disowned him. How long did it take Trump to dump Cory?
Hillary supporters organize protests against trump? STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES
This is just more of Trump and his supporters acting like a bunch of sore loser crybabies. Can't win the election on merit? Blame the process!
he's just speaking the truth; that trumpets are a bunch of violent nut heads who will punch people they don't like
AHAPPYMERCHANT 7y ago
Jesus dude just watch the video. The shit they confess to is horrible.
PairADiceInThunda 7y ago
You are a loser. Take care of your kids.
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[deleted] 7y ago
He planted women in harms way for political gain. Trp us about personal responsibility. Learn it.
alpha_n3rd 7y ago
women volunteered to be in harms way to expose trump supporters for the pack of violent fascists they are
stop white knighting
bowie747 7y ago
I forgive you, because you clearly have no idea of what you speak.
[deleted] 7y ago
You really are a lost soul on the wrong sub. Try tumblr.
alpha_n3rd 7y ago
you guys are the ones concerned about the precious women being "planted" that is BP as fuck
[deleted] 7y ago
White knighting? This us about a corrupt political system. Do you think planning and executing violence is the way politicians should persuade the public to vote for them?
alpha_n3rd 7y ago
who actually started the violence? Oh, right, TRUMP SUPPORTERS. All the SJW's had to do was show up and they got punched in the head JUST LIKE FATBOY SAID THEY WOULD. You know why? Because Trump supporters are bunch of cowards with no frame. Who else would punch somebody in the back of the head as they're being led out?
who's talking about armed revolt now that trump is losing?
TRUMPETS
trumpets == nuts. it's like the ron paul camp all jumped to trump.
-TempestofChaos- 7y ago
Totally. The NC GOP office wanted to be firebombed. Trump supporters love being assaulted at their own rallies. Deleware County GOP office loves being broken into. Random people with trump shirts on love being accosted.
To use your own terms, isn't that...victim blaming?
BigBillDoyle 7y ago
Your stupidity causes me physical pain
stawek 7y ago
If Hillary is elected we can expect most future presidents to be female.
enkae7317 7y ago
I know women who will vote for Hillary just because "we need a woman president."
Take from that what you will.
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Hillary should be in prison. The whole system is totally broken.
PantsonFire1234 7y ago
Trump is a freelance bullet wreaking havoc, no one knows what a presidency under him will look like. Hillary however is nothing but a pawn, schemer, lair, and warmonger. She is the perfect example why women should not hold any position in office.
There are big plans for this world and people will lots of money are putting their interests above yours because it's in their nature to do so. They give zero shits about you and right now, the media, the governments are all balls deep into this corruption.
Now Americans (and Western society in general) pride themselves on emulating the blueprint that has been set in ancient Greece. Which is one of democracy, republic, free thinking and citizen virtues. But in all these modern western countries, this is not the case anymore.
Greeks where inherently nationalistic and virtuous in their pursuits. With globalism and political correctness the west has strayed as far as possible from this example. Never would they fight foreign affairs for some overlord of theirs. Never would they bow and scrape for some virtue signalling, betraying their people in the process.
It's time to accept that our civilization is a whole new one all together. Uncharted territory, we aren't emulating our ancestors anymore and we are inbound to disappoint them with our life choices
nonthaki 7y ago
WTF ? You were a Hillary supporter before , and you think you are a Red Piller ? I admit Trump may not be the best candidate and is far far from perfect , but even then why couldn't you have endorsed a third party ? Why did you have to endorse Hillary before - the bitch who promotes SJW ideology , who brings up wage gap and thus cohorts in more feminists and libtards and even normal women , the bitch who neither cares about men or women which is worse than catering to a single gender ? Fuck Hillary . You too must have been a douche who vexed us Trump or third party supporters in your past, just like other idiotic women , even after we kept informing people like you in vain everytime about Globalist takeovers .
Theharshcritique 7y ago
I posted this last week and got downvoted to shit on my other account. Good that this hit the front page. It's happening.
blackjackANDplates 7y ago
With her win over Donald Trump (straight white male), Hillary will be seen as the one that defeated the patriarchy and will be free to release the cultural marxism degeneracy all over the world.
Auvergnat 7y ago
Do you really think women will give up their main victimization card?
Original_Dankster 7y ago
Male / female relations will sour under a Hillary presidency just as black / white relations soured under the Obama presidency.
goldnhorde 7y ago
by no means will this happen. women will continue to push the victim role and downplay all of the reality that they are in fact getting the good side of unequal treatment to their male counterparts.
and when pushed and having reality shoved under their noses so they can smell there own shit, they will curl up their lip in disgust and say "I guess it is about time we got a fair shot ..... there's a lot of history to be made up for."
this is what all victim groups do. they fight for a cause, that in most cases is completely legit and true. But when the cause is won, or at least won to the point that it should be considered won, it becomes about something completely else and gets high jacked by a third party.
now let me just say this though about "won". I have no issue with someone being a racist or a sexist. it doesn't mean I have to be around them or talk to them, but if they decide that is their mind and they are not committing any crimes ... then fine. everyone doesn't have to "go along" or share the same views. If I didn't hang out with someone the second they said something stupid, I would be alone. what's more, I would be shunned often enough for my own stupid comments be they racist, sexist, or just random stupidity. This PC game is about power and making people say things they don't think or believe. of course there are racist. of course there are sexist. oh but the joy of making a white racist say that it is impossible for minorities to express any type of negative racial sentiments .... that must just be like heroin for these guys.
rigbed 7y ago
Not to mention communism had equality with an acknowledged alpha male but with capitalism there will never be equality
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Auvergnat 7y ago
I am more expecting deflection, as in "Having a woman as president does not invalidate the patriarchy! Wage gap, rape culture, toxic masculinity... the patriarchy is stronger than ever! If anything, Hillary made it despite the patriarchy! Because she was such a strong woman. She's an example that we can eventually break the patriarchy!"
Remember feminism is normal woman's manipulation/shit-test/subcommunication/powertalk at a society level. It doesn't follow logic, just emotions. It's just fucking with men's mind to get more stuff. If we answer to it in a logical manner (taking it at face value, argumenting with facts, getting frustrated at the lack of logic, etc.), it means we're taking it seriously and therefore we lose.
Mon_k 7y ago
That's what happened with Obama. He somehow both triumphed over racism and caused race relations to get to the worst point since the 60's.
Turns out getting elected is enough to win a peace prize but not enough to keep the peace.
goldnhorde 7y ago
I always hated the Nobel Peace Prize bit when Obama was in the white house. because that's how it came across. a "bit". a gag. a joke. just not real or earned.
Geil Lundestad actually said they gave him the award IN ADVANCE to help Obama move towards nuclear disarmament. That it had not ben for any recognition of "to date accomplishments".
This of course never came to pass, but then again, who cares. the Nobel directorate presented it the way the presented it and it was improper. it was a huge discounting of the value of the Nobel prize (and not the first time that a decision like this was made by the committee.)
bigcitytruth 7y ago
If you want to get into the thick of politics, I think it helps to understand how the US government works. The president does not create any policy. The legislature does. The president can only say yes or no to a policy. If he says no, the legislature can still override him. This check on power was intentionally set by the framers of the constitution, who wanted to make sure the president did not have king-like power.
So while all you guys bicker about the POTUS, it's just a distraction. The real thing you should be looking at is the Senate. Choosing senators happens mostly in midterm elections, when most of you guys aren't paying attention. Start paying attention.
Just_in78 7y ago
I think you're discounting the abilities of a president to effect change. As the figurehead of the direction that the United States is to head, the president can also:
Pass Executive Orders through in order to get immediate action on certain issues.
Alert the People of idiotic things that Congress will try to pass through in order to force the public eye on it.
Acquire support and attention for legislature that they would like to see passed and shame those on their political side that oppose it, in order to hurt their re-election chances.
And lastly but certainly not least (due to the vacancy)
I'm sure I'm missing a lot of other things that the president can do and effect, but these are the ones that immediately pop into my head.
2comment 7y ago
I haven't lived through any US female presidents yet, but as someone that lives parttime in Europe and worked in tech I've experienced second and thirdhand Carla Fiorina (downfall of Hewlett Packard), Meg Whitman (mediocritization of once skyrocketing eBay), Marissa Mayer (once would-be savior of Yahoo).... and lived in Germany under Merkel and the bullshit immigration crisis her feels crash landed into.
And now with the resurgence of Russia, here we have the defense ministers of Europe protecting us. Yeah. The daycare centers they open up in barracks will surely save us.
I'm not really looking toward Trump as a savior figure, don't get me wrong he's a million times better than Hillary, but the West has lost all frame. Absurdities have become the truth and the truth is often unspeakable. We had a nice experiment with democracy and republics for a while, but as history has shown, it all goes in a cycle of generations.
This cycle can be distilled down to this: those generations who had it tough save up something lasting beyond their years and those generations that grew up with plenty give it away. The last generation that had it tough was the Great Depression and going into WW2 from there. It has been relative prosperity since.
The traditional model says we should be getting despots now but if you think of corporations as oligarchs we're already well there and have been a long while. It's probably an irony that Nixon was the last president that had some redeeming quality in terms of actually representing people's best interests (ie EPA and all that).
backdoorbum 7y ago
aristocratic republic best government
Doc_Sithicus 7y ago
Even better ministers of defence
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landon042 7y ago
looks like he shoots babies if they cry in his presence
Prot69 7y ago
To me he looks like a white Snoop Dogg.
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Canada
[deleted] 7y ago
At least he's had some military experience.
[deleted] 7y ago
And a cop. The man is essentially the best of all words. The virtue signal to prove you're not a racist, and the public service and hard work of any canadian.
I'm still amazed he is on Trudeaus cabinet. He's the only person there that has had 100% support from everyone, public and parlament
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alpha_n3rd 7y ago
See I would rather have Killery with her connections to the military industrial complex in charge of the army than Putins buttboy Trump.
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Be sure to sign up first for ww3
2comment 7y ago
Actually, I think Trump is better not because of his promises (every candidate promises and then comes the reality of office and what they can actually do) but his Washington outsider role, and lack of Washington connections. I don't think he can get anything he promises done.
Hillary. I don't believe her promises either but I think she has way too many Washington connections and she can get a ton done. None of it good.
If you read the setup for the Constitution, it was to ensure gridlock. Gridlock is good. It's when too many of them agree we get shit like the Patriot Act. Especially in this day and age of corptocracy.
chrisaffi 7y ago
She can get shit done but the results of her opinions and agendas and whatever she gets done is questionable. One question: do you think she would ever make it this far in politics without her husband? Just because she like the nitty gritty details of policy and likes to politik doesn't make her a great mind to lead the empire that is the United States. She reminds me of smart female students in my high school years ago who were great at memorizing and being snappy but has zero leadership qualities. Anyways, politics is all opinions and I have way more reasons to support Trump, but I digress.
2comment 7y ago
No. One anecdote from a comedian who hung out with Bill basically boiled down to her thinking she's behind all her husband's success... but no one can escape that she has no public charisma to make it on her own politically in the first place.
She's got a very good chance to win purely because of the dick she first rode into town on. I'm sure a ton of older (and male) democrats secretly hope she does have all those health problems (some claim Parkinson's) so that it becomes her husband's secret 3rd term or the VP gets in.
chrisaffi 7y ago
Interesting take on the whole democrats wishing her health issues are real. In one of the Wikileaks, her maid huma abdein says that a debate prep need to be rescheduled to fit her " body clock". Also in another one it was mentioned that her health a "sensitive" subject. I mean yeah I feel shitty in the morning but I do my work regardless and grind. I don't think she can actually grind through shit. Her secret service people all say that she was a nightmare to work with for all the emotional crap she goes through.
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Troll_Name 7y ago
The only thing "safe" about Hillary is that the hidden ultra-elites feel safe with her.
This isn't a partisan issue. It's a shadow government which has controlled both parties, the news, the schools, and Hollywood - for decades. This shadow government is the same entity which torches other countries one after another, rigs trade deals which benefit 0.001% of the persons affected, and lets grand scale crime slide even when people are caught in the act.
tsudonimh 7y ago
Bill Hicks called it decades ago.
"I think the puppet on the right is best." "I'm voting for the puppet on the left." "Hey, there's one guy holding up both puppets!" "Shut up! Go back to bed America, you're government is in control."
wanderer779 7y ago
Yeah the impression I got from reading some of the emails is that HRC isn't really in control. This is nice because she is never actually implicated in anything. She is surrounded by criminals but comes out clean.
So she will most like win. They succeeded in portraying Trump as a sexual predator. And the WikiLeaks stuff seems to have no influence. These people paid people to start riots and offered quid pro quo to the FBI to help them out with the email case. The same agency that just cleared her. The people voting for her are just sticking their fingers in their ears. I'd be willing to bet most liberals don't click on WikiLeaks stories. The cognitive dissonance is too painful.
diet_shasta_orange 7y ago
I'm a liberal, I read the emails. Doesn't really paint her in a good picture, and I certainly don't like the stiff with regards to Bernie. But I don't think anything is scandalous. And the reason no one cares is because the right shot their wad on Hillary scandals by calling everything since Benghazi a scandal. She's been investigated a lot, and nothing has proven to be a scandal or illegal. So people don't lay attention anymore. The left never really said much about Trump, they let him do the talking, and they bring out the dirt they do have in an appropriate amount at an appropriate time. To me, this is just being smart, which is something I prefer in a president.
wanderer779 7y ago
I'd say that a lot of what has been uncovered this year has been scandalous which is why people have been resigning. And I get the impression HRC has done illegal things. For example the quid pro quo email seems like it would be a case of illegal conduct, but IANAL and again Hillary is not directly implicated. But if we judge her by the company she keeps it doesn't look good. And it is true that die hard democrats aren't paying attention but the other side and some independents are paying plenty of attention. Wikileaks hashtags have been trending on twitter through all this and the wikileaks sub has 57k subscribers. Articles about wikileaks on facebook get tons of comments. I think it will do nothing to the people who vote straight democrat and/or only watch cnn and read wapo. For independents I think it will swing some to not vote for her. If the republicans had run someone reasonable it might have cost her the election.
I say this as a non-partisan person who doesn't vote, doesn't like Trump and finds plenty of fault with all sides. I think this is just how politics are played. The stakes are huge so you get people doing illegal and unethical things, because if they get away with it the reward is huge.
ser0402 7y ago
I've brought the emails up to my mom (undecided voter, although she's leaning towards Hillary, naturally) and how Hillary is corrupt and has most major media outlets in her back pocket framing the election however she wants it.
Her response? "You cant believe all that, You can't believe everything you see on the Internet."
Bitch it's in the damn emails proving they have reporters and news networks working for them. You can't believe ANYTHING they say.
Luckyluke23 7y ago
i call them the "illuminati" if you will.
this is the ONLY reason why she is going to win.
icantbelieveiclicked 7y ago
The Illuminati are real and they have nothing to do with this.
Also, women can't be Illuminati because all it means is that you are a Free Mason of the highest rank.
Litteraly any man not born a slave and of good moral character can become Illuminati if he wants to
Luckyluke23 7y ago
yeah i didn't mean them specifically. I mean more a " a power to be in the background"
[deleted] 7y ago
people are waking up my friend!
Luckyluke23 7y ago
yeah but are they REALLY going to vote for trump?
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doesnt matter its completely rigged... the shadow government rules all. But people cannot take it anymore and are waking up. Now it is either we wake up and kick their asses out, or WW3 and they install their "world peace" globalist slave system.
diet_shasta_orange 7y ago
Can't take what anymore? My life is pretty good, most people who I know are doing fairly well. If this is the shadow governments doing then good for them.
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Also what you perceive as good depends on how far you see... It's like a frog in a well who thinks he's in the ocean.
diet_shasta_orange 7y ago
That's fair, but that's kind of always the case no matter what, it's only bad as far as you can see it too. Things could go really wrong, or they could get way better. The current trend is that it's getting slightly better. Will you're life be that much better with Trump than Hillary, what decisions would either of them make that will directly affect you?
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its not about trump or Hillary, its the fact that right fucking now your life could be a million times better if it weren't for the elites deliberately making it worse. You just haven't seen it...
Not to mention ww3 cooking up, deliberately again so they can wipe out 90% of the population to insert their global government slave system.
diet_shasta_orange 7y ago
I can't even fathom some world where my life is even 10X better, let alone 1 million. What would be different, my marginal tax bracket, maybe drugs would be legal, help me understand.
4D6N2 7y ago
So edgy. All I'm seeing when I read this is "I love being a good cuck for the elite". Grow some balls. What are you, 15?
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what in the fuck are you talking about?
4D6N2 7y ago
I'm talking about you, you defeatist coward.
[deleted] 7y ago
what the hell makes you say I'm defeatist??
4D6N2 7y ago
Are you literate? If you were, you wouldn't be asking me that question.
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DrunkWiseman 7y ago
Well, there is a tremendous amount of science that says the Earth is very sensitive to temperature changes. It can result in a multitude of phenomena ranging from hurricanes to even ice ages. All of it is very hard to predict and measure, but scientists are doing their best. Basically the negative outcome of some of these models being true is destruction of lives and certain regions being put underwater. The carbon tax and global government is also not a great thing, but you have to weigh the possibilities and how likely they are, since I'm not an expert in either field I'll stop here.
This1sMyWorkAccount 7y ago
I personally believe climate change is real too. Just curious what you think is a better alternative would be to carbon tax. There really doesn't seem like there is a perfect solution just yet.
jimmy_toes 7y ago
C02 only makes up 0.04 percent of the earth's atmosphere. They have actually found that the increased C02 has greened the planet.
madethewrongmistake 7y ago
Albedo is more important than greenhouse effect. Particulate matter is what melts the icecaps, not CO2.
Mindcrime2015 7y ago
There is indisputable evidence that climate change is occurring. That is not the actual question. The question is whether or not it is mainly anthropogenic (man originated/man-made) or not. The argument for the global warming enthusiasts is that it caused by all the carbon being put into the atmosphere by use of fossil fuels, woodburning, etc. Grantly, this is an incredible simplification of the argument, but that is the gist of it. Unfortunately for that argument, the last eruption by Mount Pinatubo in the Philipine Island put more carbon in the atmosphere that mankind had in its entire history thus far, ie. the last 200,000 years or so. World temps lowered for a couple years and then restabilised (sic)for the most part. So the carbon argument is bullshit.
GLO has it right regarding the true purpose of the so called carbon tax. Climate science is a multi billion dollar industry for scientists and the activist crowd. Without climate alarmism the oil companies (the primary sugar daddies for private climate science grants) dry up the money and thousands of scientists will have to find new areas to research (and more importantly to them) new sources of funding and activists will need to find a new chicken little cause to espouse. Governments will have to find a new lever to take more control of our daily lives. Hence the reason they have not abandoned the carbon argument yet.
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A volcanic eruption that was a one off event.
Yakatonker 7y ago
You're not talking about Global Warming > Climate Change are you? That garbage has been debunked along with the reputation of Al Gore. It was such bad pseudo science where in it resulted in the majority ban of Gore's propaganda books in American schools.
If climate change doesn't encompass the Sun as the core and systemic driver of solar planetary weather then it's still a another form of baseless propaganda by another name.
Rufferto_n_Groo 7y ago
This.
Climate has been much warmer in the past, and also colder. Nature drives the changes in climate, and always has.
Recent revisionism in historical temperature records are blatantly occurring, and an enormous amount of bad science is out there. This is not in dispute. If you think it is, you've succumbed to propaganda.
Ultimately climate change has been turned into a weapon for use against humans, to acquire power. Educate yourself so you can adapt to the tactics that will be used against you, you evil polluting mobile carbon unit. You pay your air tax today?
Yakatonker 7y ago
Its as if the concept of the red pill was illusory to people outside of the field of sex because it is. To become red pilled does not mean spending time learning only the mechanics of women, it means so much more but then again that's what we get when the majority of men are slave to the pussy.
The election alone has shown the true nature of establishment corruption, not just congressional or executive but liberal establishment corruption is encompassing in academia where the for profit nature of industry owns and corrodes research and twists it into something that is often not true.
You're right Rufferto_n_Groo as in this so called "green economy" is part cause of the economic depressions running rampant in western economies. The problem is the fucking ignorance of the stupid mob to it as in we can't attach a vagina to it. Vagina because we can't get the masses of men to actively take an interest in such things and research the obvious. Instead we get the CTR(hillary bots) version of "science can't be wrong but always factually correct because of the repeatable nature of it" says every msm beta bot with no macro understanding of how the business or economy of man works.
Also curious, have you come into research which bolsters the Sun as the primary means of weather on our planets? My own studies have come into this repeatedly, especially with the research that goes into electromagnetism being the dominant force(known) in this universe over the pseudoscience framework of gravity planted in the early 1900s by Einstein.
Rufferto_n_Groo 7y ago
I've seen a number of bits, quotes, and links over the years that point out the effects of solar cycles and volcanism as heavy drivers of climate.
As a very recent example, look at the medieval warm period and the little ice age that followed. Less advanced non-western civilizations, such as the puebloans in the southwestern US abandoned their buildings and headed south for water. This is pre-idustrialization. There's evidence or a massive volcanic eruption in 1258, and when you combine that with solar cycles it beging to create powerful correlation for non-human control of climate.
Dunno what you've got going on with gravity.
Update: I'll just leave this here. http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/24/top-university-stole-millions-from-taxpayers-by-faking-global-warming-research/
Yakatonker 7y ago
Consider portions of relativity to be as Feminism is to the social sciences, as in a program used to suppress certain technological elements. I'm seeing a slow reversal occurring however one in its infancy. You aught to examine electromagnetism, that superior force which proliferates within the hearts of "black holes".
DrunkWiseman 7y ago
The changes you are describing happen over a HUGE time-span. Yes, the Earth naturally have changed its temperature over time scales of thousands of years. But you contrast it to the temperature change since say around the time the industrial revolution kicked in, it's tremendous compared to temperature fluctuations throughout Earth's history. I urge you to do a bit more investigative work on this before you make wide sweeping conclusions.
Rufferto_n_Groo 7y ago
Bro, less than 200 years on such a timespan is called:
STATISTICAL NOISE
And you're also talking out of your ass on temperature fluctuations. Heck, the depth of the last ice age was 2+ degrees centigrade cooler than today. Even now we have not hit the temperatures found in the Holocene era, and they're still 1+ degrees centigrade more than where we are now.
Climate is climate, and changes with or without us.
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[deleted] 7y ago
Yeah it's pretty bad. The oligarchy is out in the open this election and it's disgusting how few people know about it. When you tell someone they go all liberal SJW on you.
If trump loses he still did us a service as good as Snowden. He exposed the corruption in our government and it's now understandable how congress can have a 12% approval and remain unchanged.
And don't get me started on how the media can openly report in the U.K.
"The elites aren't the problem. It's the people. "
In the old days motherfuckers heads would roll.
t12totalxyzb00 7y ago
That would be the german president on the refugee crisis and Europe.. The elites aren't the problem. The people are the problem.
I just want to clean swipe all governments of Europe and put in the govs from 1975 or something.
wanderer779 7y ago
Yeah this is sort of like what the blacks have been saying about the police shootings. The technology is new, but the problem is old. Corruption like this is as old as politics.
As bad as the powerful people act, I have to admit I don't want the decisions turned over to the masses who are clueless about most subjects. I don't want Trump who acts crazy and approves of ridiculous rights abuses like stop and frisk. I haven't seen much of an option for a person who believes in liberty.
jackandjill22 7y ago
It doesn't matter at this point. Trump may be a maverick but he's overturning everything. You need to make hard choices; bottom-line-- Hillary Clintons level of corruptions unbelievable, she's colluding with the press to suppress the relevance of these issues #Podestemails on an international scale then to make it worse she's threatened war with Russia with a no-fly zone in Syria.
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DrunkWiseman 7y ago
He probably knows it's real, but has decided to vote Hillary no matter what. This is his way of still having a clean conscience about voting for the corrupt establishment. I honestly don't even have any beef with Hillary, she is a manipulated puppet and a poor old lady with Parkinsons. Just want to see the elite get trounced by a wild card like Trump.
pusangani 7y ago
I became a centipede before I found TRP, it sorta led me here. Every man I know that supports Hillary is beta, including my dad.
bigcitytruth 7y ago
The non-beta leftists were "Bernie bros."
aptway 7y ago
All of the outspoken Hillary fans I know, save one, are fat, smarmy betas with ugly-ass feminist wives or girlfriends.
I can understand if you don't like Trump. But for the love of god, if you're parroting Hillary as being amazing, you need to turn in your damn man card.
JimiJons 7y ago
One of the primary purposes of TRP is to more or less anonymously preserve masculinity in just such a future. Half of what we learn, we learn in anticipation of a society that forces us to behave in ways ever more and more psychologically deceptive. TRP teaches us to manipulate the base instincts of women in ways inherently unintuitive to them. I don't fear a Hillary administration or an increasingly feminist America because I know full well that, through the knowledge I have gained from TRP, my masculinity will continue to thrive and provide me the things that I want.
In any case, all of us should know full well that gender conservativism in the West, otherwise known as "biology," is dying a fast, brutal, and inevitable death. Your attempts to stall that death, whether political or social, are futile and a tremendous waste of your energy and time. No matter how hard you protest, you will not be the savior of manhood save in yourself. Your vote in this election will mean nothing. Unless she somehow dies before election day (don't get any fucking ideas), Hillary will be the next president of the United States. I promise you that.
Focus on your own development, keep your own head above the water, and let anyone else who dismisses the warning signs drown.
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[deleted] 7y ago
Hillary pretty much embodies everything we don't like about women and gives it a drug cocktail of steroids, LSD, PCP, and bath salts. Worst women ever is going to be the worst president ever. If you thought Bush was bad, I'd bet money it can get a whole lot worse.
Kumrag 7y ago
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[deleted] 7y ago
The dead man switch was triggered he is likely dead or in prison
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t12totalxyzb00 7y ago
Why do you really want to prevent THE FIRST WOMAN PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF UMMARICA?!
YOU LYING WHITE CIS GENDERED FUCKING MALE. RACIST!
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My response reposted from the other thread...
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perfidiousfish 7y ago
I can corroborate this. At the risk of doxxing myself, I'm actually a Russian hacker, and we've been instructed to find as much dirt as we can on Clinton because she won't give us any more cheap deals on depleted uranium. It's pretty apparent to all of us that we can rig the US election by exposing how the Clinton campaign has tried to rig the very same election.
Sarcasm over, the above is concern trolling nonsense.
[deleted] 7y ago
This is all open source material. Nothing I say is actually controversial.
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_uk/read/all-signs-point-to-russia-being-behind-the-dnc-hack?_ga=1.100855937.165725272.1476973167
This is the threatconnect post showing months of research with Russian intelligence tradecraft, and why they attributed to Russian intelligence. https://www.threatconnect.com/blog/how-to-investigate-incidents-in-threatconnect/
Believe what you want, but this is the truth.