This post has been thrown together quickly, so I make no apologies for the quality level. Decide for yourself.
For the EC weekend I wanted to discuss a shorter topic which seems to be forgotten regularly on TRP. That is the situation in our society that lacks compassion for the average man. You’ll see regular examples of this in the man paying alimony who can’t afford it. The man who can’t afford his child support being sent to prison. The general indifference a large chunk of society has towards the male suicide epidemic going on... you’d think in such an advanced society we’d see something like that as a national crisis or major emergency that needed solving as a priority. However it’s treated like any ordinary national problem alongside the new doctors contract... to be sorted in due course, but not worthy of being fast-tracked.
It’s generally accepted on TRP that you can expect society to largely ignore your needs. In addition to this, in order to remain attractive, you can’t expect compassion from women when you are struggling. It makes you look weak and less attractive. We’ve seen plenty of examples where women admit the feelings of repulsion for a man who requires emotional support from them. (Usually combined with guilt.) Which leaves two places you can get this compassion. Your male friends, and TRP. You could also consider the internet in general, but going to places like r hamsters will usually just get you blamed for being too needy or some such nonsense.
Anyways, one of the things that TRP prides itself on is the freedom to come here and vent. Want to get that anger out? Fine. We’re not going to judge you for it. Need a little emotional support because stuff has gone to shit? Fine, we’ll do that too. How about you need a kick up the ass for being a little baby? We’ve got you covered. However this one is where some don’t realise where it comes from. All of these are different ways of helping our fellow man which comes from a level of compassion that we all have, (and need to some degree), which is lacking for the men of today. Even when we’re telling you that you’re a pussy and need to man the fuck up, it comes from that compassion to adapt the message in the best way to get men to excel. In some cases, that challenging language works best to motivate.
The flip side of this is that there are some insecure men who need to tell others they’re faggots or pussies mostly out of aggression or directionless rage. In other words, the language isn’t there for motivation and compassion never drove it. While I have no interest in tone policing, I would make an observation from a self-improvement perspective: If you’re laying down some aggressive language, ask yourself one question: is it to challenge them out of compassion? If not, then perhaps there is some introspection you could do to figure out where this is coming from.
This journey we’re on never ends gentlemen. We are all apprentices in a craft we shall never master. Now watch as this post brings out a few of the guys who could do with the introspection I’ve just mentioned.
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[deleted] 7y ago
In my opinion, most of the guys who shame others on here do it for the wrong reasons, but they are free to do what they want. If I'm going to insult another guy its probably not going to be because he's showing too much emotion, not acting macho enough, or can't get sex-- though I may say nothing to him if I don't have anything to say. I'll insult someone because they've condoned or done something seriously immoral, and that's it.
RedMoonAscendant 7y ago
Are you on a different TRP than I am? I see people judging someone for being angry all the time. I guess I should pay attention to see how often the judges have a badge. Maybe that's what's rare. The community at large, though, has little sympathy for someone who's angry about BP society and how they've been treated.
ITSMEDICKHEAD 7y ago
Great post and of course I agree with you.
suske127 7y ago
Hey, NightWing. Thanks for posting man.
I think about this topic very often, especially when I come on TRP. I try my best to be compassionate towards all of my mates. Even if they feel it's weird sometimes - for example my buddy Jake just had his dog die and I gave him a hug - it is a step in the right direction for the guys I'm close with, as we begin to be real with each other and rely on women less for comfort. We all have each other, so we can go slay women without any need for emotional support from them. I'm still working on this with my bros. I wish every man could understand that we're all brothers fighting the same fight. (or at least a similar one)
Glad that you posted what goes over most others heads
Faymozilla 7y ago
Why would you want to be compassionate with other men?
Paratonir 7y ago
This post is the first of its kind that I have seen on TRP. And I believe that the reason for this is the amount of complacent newcomers who simply gloss over the self improvement core Philosophy of this sub, and straight up engages in mental masturbation accompanied by mutual patting on the shoulder. It is such a shame that most endorsed contributors are simply forced to rely on tough love and only that in order to get their point across to the average beta. If only the modern male was not programmed to be a consumer but rather a producer, we could actually have some friendly, yet serious conversations around here.
[deleted] 7y ago
It comes with age. You see it with older guys
meh613 7y ago
Age is no guarantor of maturity or knowledge. The most age can guarantee is that one has had the opportunity to gain knowledge and/or become mature, if one doesn't take the appropriate lessons, it's not going to happen.
[deleted] 7y ago
Averages. This isn't namalt
Mckallidon 7y ago
Fuck bitches get money hashtag YOLO.
rporion 7y ago
Better post why:
You will lose money chasing bitches (of either gender, yes, there are only 2, deal with it...), you will never lose bitches chasing money.
Mckallidon 7y ago
Amusingly, that was not why I posted that, but thank you for pointing out the wise and unintended wisdom of a Lil Wayne line.
rporion 7y ago
I doubt that it was unintended, this Little Wayne gentleman knows how the world turns.
I think you just have never appreciated him as the deep, well, semi-deep, philosopher he really is.
After all he is worth a metric fuckton of money and rolling in, uh, people of the female persuasion, who are very generous with their,uh, affection.
Phew.
Mckallidon 7y ago
Where would humanity be without him lol.
rporion 7y ago
Well, there are some posts where men seem to try to aggressively put other men down or force their personal definitions on what is f.e "alpha" on the whole board.
I rarely engage in such a pissing contest, because all I am thinking is "dude, you are not yelling so loud because you want to convince me, you are desperately trying to convince yourself".
I also hate these silly little tricks, you know like when you get into someone elses space or turn your hand around when you shake hands so that yours is on top to exert your dominance or some such shit.
Depending on my mood I am either slightly amused or disgusted.
I never trembled in fear.
tuxedoburrito 7y ago
"A real nigga doesn't need to prove he is one, because he is one." - hopsin
aanarchist 7y ago
aka a beta. only betas pissing contests. that tryhard thug alpha that gets mad if you so much as look at him the wrong way, that's a beta, a slave, and that's why they end up in the next level of internment camps that is inside of the prison known as society, actual prison.
[deleted] 7y ago
I peeped this as a kid man. It's sad. Dudes jostling to assert dominance whenever some bitch comes by.
I just lean back and let them be stupid.
Funny story. A friend was being "alpha" and flaunting this chick we both liked in my face like he was some kinda man. While he fondled her, she kept her eyes on me.
That night when we left his house, I was knuckles deep in her on her staircase. Wasn't even 5 minutes after leaving his place since they lived next to one another.
I later lost my virginity to her.
So yeah. Fuck posturing for other dudes.
aanarchist 7y ago
good on you my dude. you're probably a poster boy for virgins everywhere, and it really nails in the coffin that your n count doesn't actually matter. alpha is internal strength and esteem, beta is looking for outside sources to validate your worth, aka trying to pull hot chicks, trying to make a shit ton of money you don't need in a job you never wanted, so you can attract a hot bitch to have your kids you don't want because you feel like only beta losers can't find a woman to have his kids. an alpha is an internal monarch, wealth comes to him because he is valuable, a king. he need not impress anyone, he need not dominate or overpower anyone. people bow their head before a king because it is what you do before one to show your respect, just as that woman did before you.
Tweakfix 7y ago
LOL Bullshit. No one has intrinsic worth. You're deluded
NeckbeardVirgin69 7y ago
That's like saying that no one is attractive.
[deleted] 7y ago
To be accurate, alpha gets laid. It's not a nobility thing. It's pretty selection solely.
The deaf is great, but it's not the same thing
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[deleted] 7y ago
Lucky, the three rs of the red pill did it three years ago
[deleted] 7y ago
Society in general doesn't give a shit about bottom 80% of men. It's extremely brutal, but true. It's society that is screwing them over and over again, and makes them feel disposable and feel that the world would be better off without them.
However, it's that bottom 80% of men that keep our societies running. It's those Beta Bucks who work 10 hours per day in order to support kids that (sometimes) aren't even their that made everything we currently have possible.
I never look down on them. I always give well-intentioned advice to my Beta buddies when something's bothering them. I don't scream at them "MAN UP/LIFT/LEARN GAME/DRESS/SPIN PLATES/MAKE MONEY". That type of shit would make them depressed even more.
drfinnn 7y ago
True. Rome wasn't built in a day and a man isn't either. One step at a time, one constructive piece of criticism at a time is how to build a person. A concrete piece of advice that actually strengthens a person and makes them feel better is vastly more beneficial than vague platitudes that ultimately create nothing. As men it is our job to work together to conquer the world we were born into
[deleted] 7y ago
How should I feel about this concept if I'm porking a married woman?
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[deleted] 7y ago
Good call. The constant frame test is trying at times
swift_phoenix 7y ago
So, true. I am still at this point even at 24. I am lost, however, trying to find my way one day at time and one lift at a time.
[deleted] 7y ago
In a society built on the invasion of a country? In which we nearly eradicated the natives and then integrated the survivors? No, compassion is the last thing I'd assume of this society. You fit into a group and get compassion from them. Real altruism takes balls because nobody respects someone who operates outside the group-think. I'm all for compassion, but there's no reward in it. Not in this society.
PoofyPossum666 7y ago
We hear quite often about the gendered capacity for respect available to men, not so much to women.
The reason we hear so much about this lack of respect is a gendered capacity for empathy that's available to women, which is not available for men.
Feminists call it Patriarchal society. We call it gynocentric society.
Whatever it is, it's hugely beneficial to women and detrimental to men. That lack of capacity for respect for women? Massively overplayed issue. There is no wage gap, women just work less hours and take more sick days when they're in the same field as men and they take jobs that are less demanding.
Reproductive rights. Man and woman fuck, there's a pregnancy. From the point of conception forward, the woman gets to decide for both parties whether or not they become parents. Her right to consent to sex is a paramount right of the utmost order that must be protected at all costs dear jesus
Your right to consent to parenthood? Lol, go fuck yourself. Women have reproductive rights. You have reproductive responsibilities.
Fuck, your right to consent to sex is flimsy at best as well. Amy Schumer fucks a deeply inebriated man, he falls asleep multiple times while she's fucking him, and later recounts that story as the empowering moment in which she found herself.
Marriage, a contract which legally binds men as beasts of burden to the service of their wives, a bind that the woman can brake consequence free, but the man? He's still obligated to support her even when she breaks it off, unless of course if she's generous enough to not take his balls with her when she ends it.
This, and all the other issues discussed on the red pill, is the equivalent of a burning fucking building. When a buildings on fire, do you politely point it out to the occupants? No, motherfucker! YOU SCREAM! YOU CURSE! GET YOUR FAGGIT ASS OUT OF THAT BUILDING!! GET OUT OF THERE! RUN!
If you've got a dick swinging between your legs society will inevitably try to strike you down. You'll be on your own by default. One-man wars make for great movies but shitty human experiences.
So take care of yourself. Cultivate as many friends and allies as you can. Try to limit your debts as much as humanly possible, but be good to your loved ones. Take care of your body, take care of your mind, and hold your head high. Read the red pill and ready yourself for the storm.
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Battle-Scars 7y ago
Anytime I see the term "beta faggot" used in some useless angry comment I just assume it's coming from a weak, insecure individual.
HumanSockPuppet 7y ago
Only a foolish man thinks that he can make himself stronger by mocking the weaknesses of others.
Battle-Scars 7y ago
Nope, I'm no better. I'm weak when I lose frame, you're weak when you lose frame, and they're weak when they lose frame and resort to low brow name calling. It's just an indicator of where some people are at in their journey.
dankest_rooster 7y ago
Shut up you beta faggot! I'm totally confident with my three inch penis, and huge pickup truck I can put more groceries in than you can even dream!
rporion 7y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf7GfUORHtw
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antihostile 7y ago
Anytime I see the term "cuck" used in some useless angry comment I just assume it's coming from a weak, insecure individual.
[deleted] 7y ago
Unless its in response to a guy giving his cheating SO another shot.... Then it fits.
antihostile 7y ago
True. When it's used literally, that's one thing, but it's thrown around like a childish insult these days, and it's become extremely tiring.
NeoreactionSafe 7y ago
When someone is behaving like a faggot you should not hold back calling them on it.
That's my two cents worth on it.
The guys who are getting attacked know what they are doing wrong.
I know I warn guys repeatedly and if their behavior continues to demonstrate a lack of Red Pill awareness (favoring Blue Pill themes like social justice and compassion towards the wrong things) I'll hit them with everything I can.
"Call the faggots a faggot."
...but to the authentic do not ever needlessly make an attack.
I'm very precise in who I will attack. (more sniper than nuke)
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rigbed 7y ago
Endorsed contributor weekend should last all week
blooberbutt 7y ago
How to have compassion for fellows when you have no fellows?
haxurmind 7y ago
Go out and find them.
Take up a hobby. Find something you are genuinely interested in and not for the sake of meeting women/people (within reason, video games are a hard item since there are so few LAN events); then get proficient at it enough (do your homework) to the point that you can benefit from joining a group/club, or provide those skills to a volunteer organisation that could appreciate the value of those skills.
Simple volunteer work that requires minimal skills, but gets like minded people together, is also an option.
I've never looked into what online services are available for that sort of thing, so will leave the door open for others to fill in. That or insult Google until you find what you need, you did make it into TRP so I'm confident in your capability of that skill.
Some people do similar through their workplaces, after work activities or whatever corporate organised things crop up around the holidays but I prefer to keep my work and private life separate.
Beyond that, network but don't be a poser. Accept that your not going to get along with everyone else, nor get along with some of those you meet, and work your way through those options until you find your fellow amigos.
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TermsOfColors 7y ago
I wouldn't rely on a bunch of strangers on the internet for anything really.
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haxurmind 7y ago
You can lead a horse to water but can not make him drink.
Just remember to keep the trough filled (willingness to help fellow men), lead each horse carefully to the water so you don't get bit or bucked (guard your reputation) and let them make up their own minds if they want to drink it (no matter your strength, your too busy treading water so it is up to them to sink or swim).
GentlemenMindset 7y ago
Thanks for this post. It's a good wake up call.Going through my last few comments to people and they have been rage replies due to my own shortcomings.
I think strugglers and trolls alike require some sort of general advice as opposed to stop being a faggot ass beta.
But the usual go lift applies to everyone.
koolkat182 7y ago
Hell yeah man, this is a great community. A lot of help and support comes from this place and it is well appreciated.
[deleted] 7y ago
Kudos, another hastily built post.
I love Ianwood for this aspect of the manosphere. How he breaks down male interaction and how it used to be is great. We used to be better at this, and a few generations of fem I. Perceive had ruined the ability of men to bond. It's AA balance between dark triad attitudes in abundance, but I cannot stress the joy a man gets by comrade.
They tries to tell you a good woman fills that role, but they never will.
[deleted] 7y ago
sometimes I wish I could meet people like Archwinger, CopperFox or Nightwing and just chit chat with them, see what they're like and understand what makes them tick. Lacking a male role model or mentor is like thick fog laying on the path of an already difficult road to masculinity.
Having plugged-in lads as friends is a poor substitute for true male bonding. Since I started reading the RP, I've gotten more lonely, more dwelling in solitude.
Funnily enough, I've become more satisfied with life in general, seeing that the path is clearer than ever before.
But you know, having a mate to talk to about this stuff would bring more color into life. It's taxing to always shut up.
[deleted] 7y ago
Ianwood talks about it a lot in the male social matrix.. It's worth it. My old Navy buddies and I fly around to see each other a good half dozen times a year, totally worth it
fraud_93 7y ago
I think your post could be resumed in "don't be a cunt to people you don't know".
HumanSockPuppet 7y ago
And be an enjoyable cunt to the people you do know.
fraud_93 7y ago
Most of guys in the sub don't do shit in real life, they just sit here repeating the "ideas" and taking a shit on whoever asks for help.
[deleted] 7y ago
I don't make threads here because of this. Yeah yeah I'm a pussy. Whatever. The point is that some of the folks here are just fucking annoying.
ill share a story of a past mistake in order to educate others not to make the same error, and some faggot will decide to point out how I was a bitch. Like, no shit fucker. I'm sharing so others don't do the same and see how things went bad because of it.
I don't know what it is here but it seems like half these fools are just posturing. Like what some other dude on the net thinks even matters.
So I just post replies on threads I am interested in now. Meanwhile Chad wanna be is posting made up stories about how he pulled some and you can too with this one simple trick!
rporion 7y ago
That would be a good a good idea for a thread:
The most embarassing shit we have ever heard or done.
I gotta admitt, for some reason "you are like a brother to me, quasi asexual" still takes the cake, after all these years.
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Society as a whole has a huge problem with failure. No one likes talking about it despite the valuable lessons you learn.
[deleted] 7y ago
There is so much truth in this that it should have it's own thread.
People act like you gotta be pro at everything day 1. Meanwhile. The most successful people have failed many times and learned from their failures. If everyone gave up after failing once, we'd still be fucking cave men trying to figure out fire.
Mckallidon 7y ago
Pussy faggotry is the story of my life. Haters gonna hate. If no one likes it they can go lift and approach or read the sidebar and get over it.