Women nearing their 30s know their looks and value depreciates at an incredibly fast rate once they hit their late 20s, this is solidified when the woman leads a career obsessive lifestyle or parties too hard.
Abigail Ratchford is probably the closest thing we have to a deluded cunt who thinks she can take away 4 or 5 years of her actual age just so alphas don't reject her for being a chick too close to the wall.
Back in 2011, Abi was arrested because her and 3 other entitled little shits beat up a girl outside of a nightclub. These notes show her age at 23 at the time. These are court notes, none of this is bullshitted. This is legitimate info. Abigail is 23 in 2011 making her actual birthdate around 1988.
Unfortunately, all of the betas and whiteknights who worship her ass and tits on instagram believe she was born in 1992 (as Google shows us).
Abi knows she can enjoy more of her life if she just lies about her age. That 4 year difference means a lot to a woman in her 20s. That 4 year difference means a lot to us men as well. We definitely don't want to deal with someone once she's 29 since it means she's looking to procreate ASAP but a 25 year old can pass our requirements since she's down for the dirty, no strings attached. It means a difference between sucking Chad's cock all night long and telling Beta Bill she's tired of all of the fuckboys who use her like a piece of meat.
Let this serve as a reminder that women have to scurry around their late 20s trying to lock down a clueless nerd while we men only have to worry about establishing ourselves during our 20s.
TL;DR:
USE YOUR TIME WISELY!
rombios 8y ago
my sister does this. subtracting 3 years from her age. problem is you can't cheat mother nature and at some point the makeup and clothes HAS to come off and a man of value wont take the deception very kindly
hawk4433 8y ago
You didnt read your post before posting and ask yourself "why do I care and why am I writing this". I looked up this broad, shes cute. I Would bang the shit out of her, who cares about the age?
sandersisawanker 8y ago
Ok thanks for the advice bro, I'll definitely remember it next time
HeadingRed 8y ago
So fucking glad I'm in my late 40's right now and shit like this is never even on my radar. I had a grammar school reunion and of the girls in my class now lists her occupation as "a personality".
I should start an Instagram account where I cook gourmet meals in a gorilla suit while jerking off.
brasileiro555 8y ago
dude i m doing nofap and google images of her name is not helping me, she is hot as fuck
Big_Daddy_PDX 8y ago
They love to lie - it's so normal for them to create their own reality instead of working for it. She's pretty cute for a heavier gal though.
sandersisawanker 8y ago
Yeah the bitch is pure plastic, fake tits, fake ass, fake lips, even fucking fake eyebrows. She even said she was all natural and she tends to go on a deleting rampage on instagram when someone point out her flaws. Her official website says she's a hardworker but she used to have rich sugardaddies that paid for her surgery and shit
sean_themighty 8y ago
I know this is an odd thing to say, but this chick's nose is way too narrow. Looks like a pretty extreme job.
SnickeringBear 8y ago
A 14 year old girl will lie and say she is 19. A 19 year old will lie and say she is 18. A 30 year old will lie and say she is in her "late 20's. The point is that most women will lie about their age and not think it is wrong. Simply presume whatever age a woman tells you is a lie and you will be right most of the time.
RedPillAccount69 8y ago
On the subject of using your time wisely: Why do you even know who this dumb bitch is? I've never heard of her.
sandersisawanker 8y ago
My beta, pussy starved friend would always talk about this bitch and show me her pics from instagram
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you are the average of your 5 closest friends
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Moolg86 8y ago
hit em with the socratic method at least. what you're doing for them now is a disservice, but don't get me wrong, maybe keeping a few betas around makes you a bit more alpha, like that hot chick and her landwhale friends.
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They really won't come around. If you just blatantly tell them RP truths they'll probably just look at you like you're a crazy misogynistic rapist who just destroyed their whole life.
You have to make it very subtle by setting traps for them or just showing yourself as an example.
snorted_the_red_pill 8y ago
Exactly. You have to do it slowly.
Easier to stop in a car by tapping the brakes over 10 seconds than pedal-to-the-metal braking in 1 second.
evoblade 8y ago
Somebody has to model real man behaviour for the betas.
PawnToKing 8y ago
Hahaha, I have no idea who she is, but this is hilarious. Thank you for posting this.
youngspeech 8y ago
Same here; I dont know who this girl is :D
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Me neither, but looks like she has 4.8m followers on Instagram.
drallcom3 8y ago
I had several women who lied about their age in their CV. Everyone just laughed about it. Amusing sidenote: None of them were any good.
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WhySoRuff 8y ago
Let's be honest this chick has the genetics and plastic to secure a rich beta well into her mid 30s... she was fucking johnny manziel for fucks sake (not that he's some apex alpha)... to keep the attention train going, she doesn't mind being called out on a few lies. More instagram subscribers equals a fatter check every month, in fact I bet she gained more followers immediately after this article!
wont_tell_i_refuse_ 8y ago
This girl doesn't do anything for me. Big fake tits, big fake ass, big fake collagen lips, stupid look on her face... I know it's a meme for the neckbearded Redditor to call hot girls a 2/10, but I'm just not attracted to her.
Kleeke 8y ago
Sorry to break it to you kiddo, but even a 35 year old used up woman will have no problem finding a beta to clean up her mess.
Most men are stupid, the problem with society is males.
rhuffq 8y ago
This is true. As one poster above stated there's no point in waiting for revenge/justice regarding post-wall women. No matter what there is always some guy willing to jump in there and take her. Then best thing any of us can do is work to improve ourselves and just not fall for those trappings. Let someone else trip that snare.
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dareealmvp 8y ago
She looks highly plastic to me. I'd think she has more to worry about than her naturally deteriorating looks-she probably goes under the knife once every other year from the looks of it.
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reigorius 8y ago
Why do we even care about this?
RedditAdminsSuck_88 8y ago
Abigail Ratchford has a nice rack, but damn she wears too much makeup. Way too much.
I am not one of those "makeup is bad" and "women are prettier without makeup!" white knight faggots, but she takes it too far. I like makeup because it makes women look better. But you can tell on her that too much is too much.
Also she just comes across as very trashy/skanky to me. Probably is a dumpster for Black Chad sperm, no doubt.
evoblade 8y ago
There's a difference between "accentuate natural beauty" and "clown". A lot of instagrammers are a lot closer to the latter.
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mananlak 8y ago
My first thought when I looked this girl up. Like Kylie Jenner, this girl is made more of silicon plastic and paint than flesh and blood. More unattractive to me than most women. It's disgusting.
RedditAdminsSuck_88 8y ago
Eh, Kylie Jenner is blessed with good genetics and the only thing fake about her is her lips.
I am one of those people who think Kylie > Kendall.
jules991 8y ago
If you seriously think Kylie's curves are real you are a blind fool. All those women except Kendall and Kourtney have had fat injections.
http://imgur.com/gfV2Out
She's had more done to just her face even than her lips.
RedditAdminsSuck_88 8y ago
I am a huge Keeping up with the Kardashians fan, and I did not know this. Thanks.
I always figured that no way can Kim get that figure naturally.
HAMMURABl 8y ago
I think every woman subconsciously knows that after 25 she is considered old.
yomo86 8y ago
29 if she lived a healthy non party lifestylw. 23 if she did. This renders anything over 25 undateable.
aazav 8y ago
In Hollywood, it's a death sentence for your career.
bigdaddycool69 8y ago
Margot Robbie the aussie girl from Wolf of Wall Street faked her age...google it guys she says shes 25 but she's nearer to 30
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Not necessarily. The ones who recognize that they are hitting the wall will go for roles more age-appropriate.
aazav 8y ago
Mostly though. As she ages it's rare that a chick remains hot enough to look at by the majority of her target audience.
yomo86 8y ago
And this is where acting skills become importent. Hollywood is full of Megan Fox like types but rarely do they achieve levels of Whoopi Goldberg, Candice Bergen or Cate Blanchet. But it is all muhsoggynee you know.
CQC3 8y ago
Yup. Love that recent string of actresses who suddenly got interested in feminism when the wall was approaching or had arrived.
evoblade 8y ago
Yeah, its all Maxim magazine spreads where the reader is expected to admire their goods, when they get older then its all "respect me me for who I am." Where was all of this respect stuff when you were exposing yourself to get more exposure?
allnamesfckintaken 8y ago
more like, after 24, a woman's looks rapidly deteriorate. i know this from surveying 100s of women on okcupid. it is a shit show after 24. by 30, it's like 80% of them are below a 5. although, it is selection biased since ugly women would be more inclined to go on okcupid or they havent been bagged by some guy yet. the thing is, i don't even count really ugly women because i pass right by them. i'm counting only ok looking women where i look at their profile and age. lol.
RPmatrix 8y ago
you guys and your numbers make me laugh! I know a few chicks in their early 30's who sure don't look older than 25, shit one looks about 20! and that's without makeup!
How the fuck you'd ever guess their ages is beyond me, anyway what're you going to do when a girl you really like and think is 25 turns out to be 31, next her?
age is a nebulous metric when it comes to people, sure some generalizations can be made, but too many of you are assuming shit here. Get back to me when you're 40, I doubt you'll still be saying this
sunderfrost 8y ago
I'd have to agree on the selection bias. Figure its highly likely that the 7+ are taken/will be taken and they don't need to use online dating services.
If you do see one on there, approach with caution.
elruary 8y ago
I've realised the same on tinder too.
RedditAdminsSuck_88 8y ago
I read a post on a popular sports message board that asked the question "What age are women hottest" and it blew my mind because most of the posters were saying "Upper 30s" and "40s". That seemed to be the general consensus, between 31-45, with lots of guys posting pics of women like Jennifer Aniston to support their claim. Yeah, a woman who can afford the top of the line makeup, skin treatments, hairdos, and all of that to look as young as possible, sure as hell means that all women Age 31-45 is the prime.
One guy in the thread said "Women age like milk, men like fine wine" and of course he gets shot down and dogpiled.
This is why post wall women are able to still have success. This sports message board full of these men who have no clue confirm it, they will worship post wall pussy.
ramaga 8y ago
Jennifer Aniston? Really? Sure she used to be hot, but the older she gets the more she looks like a robot tranny.
sandersisawanker 8y ago
Sounds like the website is made up of a bunch of fucking nerds who live in their mother's basement
darkrood 8y ago
They just gobble up the cougar BS.
Hate to break it to them, the hole gets loose, soooo loose.
MAWL_SC 8y ago
Also, pics are one thing, get them in front of you and your dick will go limp. Beware of Photoshop!
aazav 8y ago
Men age like a fine wine or a fine cigar.
Women age like bananas.
yomo86 8y ago
You assume that all wines are stored in the same way. 39 no drugs, educated and fit? Yea sure. 39 fat and vulgar? Hell no.
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50pluspiller 8y ago
Men age like wine, women age like milk.
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You and /u/aazav are wrong. Age generally impacts the attractiveness of men and women by about the same amount. I'm bisexual so I know what I'm talking about here.
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Show me pictures of female sex symbols aged 35 and above.
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I dunno, uh...Jessica Alba, Salma Hayek, Jennifer Lopez, Eva Mendes, Natalie Portman, uhh...Rachel Weisz is pretty hot I guess...Anyways, Patricia Velásquez, Rachel McAdams...I'm just listing off random women here. They're all hot. Teresa Gallagher, Deedee Magno, Nicole Oliver, Elsa Lunghini, Eva Green...okay I'm bored, I don't feel like doing this anymore.
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Holy shit...
I was so wrong.
allnamesfckintaken 8y ago
this is actually one if the biggest misconceptions in society. don't let yourself be fooled by it and stroll through life. a man's prime dating years is bigger and shifted compared to a woman's but not as much as the wishful thinkers in us would like. a man's prime dating years are 25 to 35. men who fall out of that range are less desirable. men who are over 35 are also less physically attractive. most men aren't going to retain their looks like movie stars. male movie stars can go into their 40s and look even better than their 20s. take a look at average 40 year old men. they look pretty bad.
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as long as you work out and groom yourself, you will go from pretty boy to rugged until your 50s. some guys start to fall then, but some keep it up.
the problem you face as you get into your mid 30s and later is that yes, you can occasionally hook girls in their 20s, but the larger the age gap gets above 5 years or so, the more those 20s girls [who are receptive to men your age] are just looking for sugar daddies.
the girls who are your age and still single once you get into your 30s and beyond tend to be society's rejects. we're talking antidepressants (or even antipsychotics), overweight, toxic personality issues, high n-counts, or even shockingly boring. don't get me wrong, you can still pull girls, but the ones worth even a pump+dump fall to maybe 1 in 5 on a good day, and the ones worth anything beyond a pump+dump fall to less than 1 in 100.
--Visionary-- 8y ago
This all depends on how you look to be honest. I look like I'm probably mid-20's ish despite being in my 30's, and I've pretty much sat on that sort of age looks wise for over a decade, but my professional status has made my success with women skyrocket.
Likely because plenty of women who are older (28 ish) and think of me as young suddenly go "eyes wide" when they learn I'm actually older than them and thus, potentially am their beta buck provisioner landing site.
drallcom3 8y ago
The difference from 30 to 40 as a man is still a lot less, given that you keep in the best possible shape. And that's only the physical side.
ChadThundercockII 8y ago
I worked with a guys who was 50 and slayed pussy every night, EVERY fucking night of the week. He was shredded and slim.
CQC3 8y ago
No, men age considerably better IF, they have taken care of themselves for most of that time. Eat well, exercise, etc.
Women look so much shittier in that 5-6 year gap from 24-30 because they don't do that. A lot of these girls rely on their metabolism or eating like birds while drinking and partying. A woman will surely not look better when 30 compared to earlier, but how well you care for yourself will slow that deterioration down a lot.
VasiliyZaitzev 8y ago
So don't be average. I'm 48; my plates are 20-26. Watch and LURN.
ChadThundercockII 8y ago
That is the problem with most men, uncle Vasily. They turn to the defeatist mindset as soon as they feel things are getting difficult. But why do I complain. More pussy for me.
RedMoonAscendant 8y ago
I guess. YMMV. I am >40 and have the best and youngest I've ever had. All due to RP. I suppose if you are RP and 28 you win. But if you are BP and 36 you are in for great times.
mojo_juju 8y ago
May I ask your age, u/allnamesfckintaken ?
I'm late 20s, almost 30. In the last 1-2 yrs have I noticed women have a much more piqued interest in me. So much so that I'd say a man's SMV doesn't really get online until after 26ish.
As a decently attractive guy who eats well & is fit, I'm going to make some conjecture here: I think my SMV will be pretty stable from say late 20s, to about 40, even 45.
It's really just based on one's cellular breakdown, which is based on genetic and environmental factors.
Also, as u/MAWL_SC says in this thread, 35+ men are valued by most women. Largely b/c there are lots of divorced women floating around by that age, looking to hop on the next beta's resource stash. In the mean time, those same women want to fuck around with younger, attractive guys.
I'm taking advantage of it-- I usually bang women around 35-45 (i'm not quite 30).
A friend of mine lives a low stress lifestyle, eats very healthy, meditates... generally a happy guy physically and mentally. He's 50, but looks about 45. I'm confident that I can have similar results regarding aging.
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I was thinking about this today. Made me google pictures of James Bond.
He is supposedly 30something in the novels, but look at those guys. And they are (were) sex symbols in their respective eras.
Mid-life is nothing to worry about for a man that has his shit on lock.
ponkyol 8y ago
Most men's physical prime is the same as a woman's, they tend to pork up just as badly once they get out of college.
UmbrellaCorp1961 8y ago
I disagree. Instead most men above 35 stop caring for their bodies. Stop working out, get beer bellies etc.
VasiliyZaitzev 8y ago
That's a big part of it. Of course, a lot of guys get married.
To be happy and healthy, as you get older, stay away from the four things that age the fuck out of you: Cigs, Drugs, Too Much Booze and especially, Women Your Own Age.
darkrood 8y ago
Jeez you are saying it as if they are fit for combat, watch out their diet, and improve themselves aggressively before 35
ponkyol 8y ago
That's what I am implying. Most men's smv doesn't look like Rollo's chart.
Jax77789 8y ago
If you are disciplined enough you will remain attractive past 40 with ease. Tomassi puts our max SMV at 38.
squeadle 8y ago
That's with money factored in too i imagine?
Jax77789 8y ago
Yes and no. Sure Tomassi factors in your assets but working out all your life will result in you outclassing more and more men as you age.
Some people say our looks peak around 29 and that we stay there throughout our 30s given we exercize. I say with lifelong discipline you can easily stretch that till around 43 but that is just me.
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You could stretch it even further with gear so that you get back on a normal test level once it starts dropping. Women don't have that, post wall there ain't shit they can do.
MAWL_SC 8y ago
Have to disagree here. Men 35+ are a hot commodity with most women.Yes,the average 40 year old man looks like shit. It's actually much easier to stand out because of all the manginas. 35, fit, have job = tingles for most ladies.
Edit: gonna add some more to elaborate. Women tend to mature faster as is well known, so a mate with matching age is usually inferior in quality in terms of SMV. Men tend to hit their stride in their 30ies and become more dominant and stable. This mirrors the experience that most females have by their mid twenties, due to their abundance.
Many people begin to let go or get too busy to maintain their SMV once they "hit their stride" in life and settle into a lifestyle. So both men and women must actively seek to maintain.
It just so happens that at 30 or so most men begin to get more rugged and less boyish, more masculine in essence. It also becomes harder to stay in shape, your metabolism slows down and testosterone drops so it's easier to suddenly find yourself with a dad bod without having changed your habits. You can no longer masturbate twice a day and still fuck like a champ, you need to manage your sexuality.
If your habits are out of control it will show at 35. Plain and simple.
Many decide that staying fit is not worth. So a semi jacked 30 plus dude who dresses well and is not a moron suddenly becomes very attractive because it's actually not that common to have all qualities in one package. It's easy to be a 25 year old fuckboy, it's hard to be a 35 year old baller, and women know that.
snorted_the_red_pill 8y ago
I'd say it depends. It's easier when you're younger, but there are different images you can project.
ChadThundercockII 8y ago
50.Fit, like really fit. Nice car. Nice house. No one woman would say no to him. NONE. Especially in the current SMP.
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At 50 you would need gear to get anywhere near fit.
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I find it hard to beleive you could be jacked at 50 as test levels start dropping as early as 30.
But I don't look down on gear users, especially if they're older men that need it to achieve a nice physique. Sure it's easier than natty but who gives a shit.
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boogalooshrimp1103 8y ago
wasnt she arrested for using stolen credit cards recently?
sandersisawanker 8y ago
Not that I have heard of. She was arrested on a DUI though
boogalooshrimp1103 8y ago
had to google it. Maya Dutch was the one i was thinking of.
ThrowyMcGruder 8y ago
The funniest thing about all of this "lying about their age" shit is that most men do not give a fuck.
Most men would rather fuck a forty year-old who looked twenty than a twenty year-old who looked forty.
I once found out that a woman I know was pretending to be 59 when she was actually 62.
Who gives a fuck?
darkrood 8y ago
True, if you have STD or loose pussy.
Who cares if you are 42 or 24?
evoblade 8y ago
That's kinda funny. Maybe she kept the fiction up from when she was turning thirty. Once you hit 50s, three years doesn't really matter.
chances_are_ur_a_fag 8y ago
women lie about their age all the time.. one prominent memory that always keeps popping up in my head is when i worked for a car rental company back in the day. the policy is to get driver's license and input the birth date into the system. we had this one woman, looked like she was about 45 or maybe even more, but for her age still decent looking. however, a complete bitch (surprise surprise). before i started working for that particular branch, she used to come in and the guys that worked there for a while knew her and would rent her cars in the past.
well, she comes in and i'm at the front. i greet her and we start the rental process. right away she's like "i've rented many times before, i'm in the system". i don't give a fuck, whatever. i'm like your DL and credit card. she gives me her DL and her birth year and expiration year are scratched out. the whole license is immaculate just the years have scratches on it. i said i need a valid DL (because i need to input those years into the system). she gets pissed and emotional saying she's in the system. i explain to her that our system doesn't do auto fill and i need to input all the information every time (which was true). she starts asking for the manager, guess what, i'm the assistant mgr and branch manager is out. i'm like, i'll do you a favor, i'll accept this DL but you have to tell me your birth year to put in, the expiration year i can figure out based on your birth year (it expires at 65 years old). she wouldn't give me her birth year in front of all other people there so i couldn't rent her a car. she storms out. never seen her again.
bitches be crazy.
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Refigerator1043 8y ago
This is the equivalent of putting your hands over your eyes and thinking no one can see you.
bsutansalt 8y ago
Who is the chick and why should I care? The rest of the thread is good though.
mananlak 8y ago
Example of a woman fearing hitting the wall,
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Revenge fantasies are a waste of time. Yes, they lose their looks, but there are plenty of thirsty guys around to pick them up if they don't wait too long. Maybe they then regret not being able to lock down someone of the calibre they used to attract when they were riding the CC, but what is that to you? You concentrate on making your own life great, let women deal with theirs.
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My takeaway from this post is not revenge, it's important to understand how women think as part of the redpill process. It never occurred to me why women lie about their age until OP pointed out the purpose of the extra 4 years is an extra 4 years of alpha cock and partying. I always thought women lied about their age because they want to "feel 18" forever, women love being told they're younger than they look because it's a compliment on their looks.
yomo86 8y ago
This is what baffles me. In China and Japan any woman over 25 is not gonna get wifed-up even by the inner circle of beta lords because they carry a social stigma. We should do the same. Former CC rider and over 25? Nope just nope. Tell a friend.
rombios 8y ago
this would be interesting if it takes off here or in the western world in general
Trpidation 8y ago
That's the real reason why the CC still exists; if those bitches couldn't get married after their leg-spreading adventures and it became a social norm then that would be the end of the CC as we know it. However, thanks to the abolishment of slut-shaming, we have an endless number of hoes thinking it's 100% acceptable to ride any alpha cock and then put it all behind them once it's time to get married...and that's because in our fucked up society it is acceptable. Thanks, feminism.
snorted_the_red_pill 8y ago
Hey, I'm cool with the end of slut-shaming.
Means that the price of sex fucking crashed. Supply and demand in action.
yomo86 8y ago
To be honest there was no real slut shaming even in the past. Feminism indoctrinated us that before the 60s all women and men lived in perpetiual celibacy.
During and even before the WW II women had boyfriends and the occassional Chad. But having 8 different guys per month would have yielded a stigma.
When I asked my grand grandmom she said she had 3 BFs before meeting her husband. Sounds like something you know? I guess she had 9 or 10 guys which is ok because she married at 24 so one guy per year. Todays slut cant even keep a guy for two weeks.
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Yes, they had boyfriends, although that didn't necessarily imply PIV sex. But WWII is still an extremely short time ago for our instinctual behaviour. The real game-changer was contraception, not feminism, and the reason for slut shaming was because of the extreme danger of unsupported single-mothers (before marriage), or cuckoldry (after it). When you take conception out, then it changes the game enormously. We saw the same thing in the Roman empire, the women used a contraceptive too (to such an extent that they drove the plant to extinction), and the result was a similar behaviour of women as we see today. Of course, Roman society then collapsed. But in the mean time, the release of women's sexual behaviour is favourable to high SMV men (hence why sluts are seen differently here), unfavourable to low SMV men (hence damaging to society generally, which relies on the over production of beta males), and unfavourable to women in the longer term (because their ultimate happiness is tied to quality of relationships rather than sex per se, and they are messing up their chances of that with short-term thinking).
snorted_the_red_pill 8y ago
Reminds me of a story by grandfather told me once, how he lost two girlfriends the same day.
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Huh.
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OneRedYear 8y ago
Everyone in hollywood and the media lies about their age. Younger is better. Always.