Summary:
How I almost acquired plate from my main social group, fucked her and let her fall a few days after.
Body:
So in my main social group I am now somewhat known for being a player. I have deliberately worked on this reputation because I figured that there is a steady income of new girls, they will get to know me like that from the beginning as opposed to older members who remember my bluepill days.
Let's meet the girl. She used to be in several years long LTR with another dude in the group, who then broke up with her. In this period, she was very shy and passive in the group and I pretty much ignored her as I tend to be active, party, enjoy dangrous stuff and she didn't usualy participate on the same stuff I did. But then after the breakup she started to socialize more. Weirdly enough, she almost became best friends with the new girl of her former bf (incidentaly, I also fucked this one). Still, she is the nice shy girl prototype so from TRP viewpoint certainly worth considering. Total partner count of maybe 3.
In January I hosted a houseparty and there was some spark between us. Since then the looks started, we talked more, but it was very weird for me since she was AT THE VERY EDGE of what I find attractive. I guess that by interacting with her more I started to like her more, even though her appearance didn't change. I'd rate her a hard 7 now with especially deep brown eyes and nice tits.
Two weeks ago (Friday) we were in our frequent pub and she was shooting IOIs my way hard to the point I would have to be gay to not follow them so I thought fuck it and when she asked if I will walk her home (she lives 10 mins from me) I kissed her. Then, two days after that (Sunday), I was texting with her and would be going by her place soon:
Me: I am tired of texting, I will be driving by your place soon, hm?
Her: You would kinda drag me from bed alredy
Me: Nevermind, next time then.
Her: No, just give a minute to dress up
So I picked her up, drove her to a nearby place with nice skyline view and we kissed and talked for about an hour, then I dropped her home and went on my business.
I texted her next Thursday:
Me: Hi, you can come tonight
Her: Hii, I can't
Huh, I thought, so this is over. Pretty much clean disinterest.
Come Saturday and there was a big wedding that most of the group attended. She was there too but we only interacted sporadicaly because I had to manage a lot of things there. She was leaving and asked me if she can talk to me for a second. So we went some place private, kissed a little and then she went on about how I should slow down. She told me that if this was just a NSA thing she wouldn't care but it's not for her. I told her let's not put a sticker on what we have and go with it and see where it leads. I also told her that this is pleasant surprise since I almost wrote her off for her reaction on Thursday. We kissed goodbye and she left.
Not 30 minutes come by and she texts me:
Her: You would really write me off this quick?
Me: I try not to waste time on people who are not interested
Her: (hamster hamster, hamster about that I must know she was interested after Sunday)
Me: Everything is temporary, Sunday interested, Thursday not, I adapt
Her: (more hamster) Enjoy the party
So when I was driving by her place again from the wedding I thought I would try my luck:
Me: Driving by in a moment
Her: I am almost asleep and not feeling too well
Her: It's probably not worth stopping for just one kiss
Me: It's not, there would have to be more of them
Her: Bargaining heh?
Me: Yep
Her: Ok, I am onboard
Me: Just arrived. How does this work, are you comming down or am I comming up.
Her: Frankly I don't want to go down in my pyjamas...
So I just parked my car and went upstairs.
We started to kiss in the doorway, I immediatelly picked her up and carried her (LIFT!) to her bedroom. Mind you, I was still wearing my suit and shoes. I started escallating rapidly, kissing her passionately. I faced several levels of LMR. First, she didn't want me to take her clothes off. I simply ignored and in a few minutes the top comes off. By this she is already worked pretty worked up. Then she said ok, but only from the waist up. I just chuckled and kept escallating. I brushed her vag a few times and she didn't seem to mind but when I tried to directly go for it she stopped me. Then she tried that bullshit that she was some lady problems (suggesting period). I called her out on that bullshit and kept kissing and touching all over. Then I used that trick from DiCarlo Ladder, the one when you grab her ass, pull one of her legs to the front (over you) and go for the vag from behind. Before she knew what was happening she was so worked up and wet that she couldn't resist. Off come the pants of the pyjamas and she is lying full naked there while I give her a G-spot orgasm. Now mind you, I love sex, but I also want me some foreplay and to this very moment she was very keen to receive but very passive to give back. So I wasn't exactly full hard on. But then she got on top of me kissed me all over and ultimately I was ready to go. Then she said she didn't have any condoms to which I just laugher. Guys, buy that shit in bulk and keep it EVERYWHERE. I mean EVERYWHERE. You car, your bike, every fucking jacket you ever wear. Every jeans with that little pocket. So we went on it, by that time I already made her cum twice so I just fucked her to my pleasure and when I came, I pulled out, took the condom and ditched it. We cuddled for a few minutes and had the pillow talk about where this is heading. The conversation went on like this (just a general ideas, not literal transcript):
Me: I like you but I am not looking for anything exclusive
Her: Gosh, why are you guys always afraid of commitment?
Me: It's not about fear. If I went exclusive with you, I would mean it which means I would not only tolerate you cheating, but neither would I tolerate it from myself. That means you would be the only person, who would directly control when I have sex. And I can't have that. I don't like to be dependent on anyone in the world (not only talking about sex) and made this my life mission. I do everything I can to only be dependent on myself.
Her: But then you are missing out on a lot of beautiful stuff
Me: No, that's not true. I can still have feelings for someone and not be dependent on them at the same time.
After that I dressed up and left to mine. So I pretty much thought "cool, I have a plate now in my main circle". We texted a little during monday, Tuesday she texted me in the evening that she is comming by mine and if I wanted to walk by the riverside so we just walked, talked and kissed.
Which brings us to last night, the group hangs around at the pub every Thursday night, so I texted her to come to my place before that and she obliged. Soon enough, the clothes come off and we go at it again but this time I want a proper foreplay, I want her to suck my cock. So I nonverbaly make it clear (mind you, I already made her cum by that time) but she seems reluctant. I jokingly ask "Don't tell me you never had it in your mouth" with a grin but she says it's not that.
And then she started to talk about all that from before again and pretty much told me that she knows that I am not looking for something exclusive and that she doesn't want me to change that for her. But because of that, she can't go full on into this because that would be self-destructive on her part (wow, the introspection, this girl actually realizes how riding the cc would damage her). I cut through to the point:
Me: So we are breaking up.
Her: Well we are not really a couple but.... I guess so.
Me: OK.
Her: Can we at least lie here and cuddle for a little longer?
Me: Yeaaaah, no.
I started to dress up, and so did she. I walked her to my building door (always locked) and she even tried to ego stroke me a little:
Her: You are an amazing kisser...
Me: Thanks... I would like to compliment you on something too, but I'm afraid I haven't seen much of your capabilities.
Her: Are you going to the pub?
Me: Maybe later, I need to take care of something first. (suggesting that if she doesn't take care of my orgasm, someone else will right away)
And that was it, we kissed one last time and I drove off on my bike.
I am actually kinda sad about this one, I guess I started to develop feelings as she is genuinely nice to hang around with.
Lessons learned:
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Sometimes, girls need a little more comfort, especially the more self-aware ones
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LMR is passable, just ignore most of it and escallate.
- Beware of the 'itis.
edit: grammar, formatting
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SeekingTheWay 8y ago
I think I told her something like that she can be my girlfriend in that social circle if she wants but that doesn't mean she will be the only one in total.
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SeekingTheWay 8y ago
I think I actually told her this Sunday because she referenced my "tinder-chicks", something I joke a lot about with my bros in the group and I told her I don't put her in the same bag.
SkorchZang 8y ago
This story is not over.
Just because she "super official super super" broke up with you doesn't mean shit. That was one of her plays to get you to cave and offer commitment. You were too direct, laid out your entire theory & way of life for her, so her focus shifted primarily to "breaking you" with her girlie powers.
You can challenge a woman to be the best at sucking your dick, and she will go for it hard if she's interested. Or you can challenge her commitment-worthiness which is essentially what OP does. Then she may well skip your dick and go directly for proving she's totally worth it and putting the little foot down if you dare disagree. Option 2 does not seem as desirable to me, that's why those commitment-talks can never be so direct and require some coy power-talk from the man.
"Are you going to the pub?" - translated from womanese in this situation means: "are you just going to shift your attention onto other women now?". She's unsure and fretting, and she will be back when she can.
jb_trp 8y ago
I've had a plate that has "broken things off" with me every few weeks over the course of almost a year. It's low drama and I always just say, "ok" and walk away, and find more plates to spin.
And she always wants to see me again, go figure. It helps that she sees me at the gym every week.
SeekingTheWay 8y ago
If you are right then I will post update once anything happens. I will treat her like before all this, just make strong eye contact and shit and mess with her a little, and if we find ourselves in private (this social group does lot of shit in closed environments), I will escallate.
But messaging her or inviting her over/myself over to her is over now.
SkorchZang 8y ago
Good call, ideally you now want kittycat to come to you herself. All flustered and ready to suck dick, dreading the loss of what appears to be a winner of a man. I read your OP with the slow, accented Arnold voice from Terminator and I cannot see how any woman would be able to resist.
Once you gain this "higher ground", you can encourage her kinky and blinding addiction to pleasing you at the expense of her own dignity, which is enjoyable for women in its own right. With no mention of relationshits whatsoever, unless she brings it up and you want it yourself by then.
SeekingTheWay 8y ago
Understood. Nothing to loose already, in my mind I already made peace with the idea of this ending, so anything else will be just a pleasant surprise for me while I game other girls.
[deleted] 8y ago
I think your format got fucked up in the last paragraph and cut off your summary/her response. I'd encourage an edit. Interesting FR. Authentic.
SeekingTheWay 8y ago
i can't see where. last paragraph ends with me driving off and then comes the lessons learned.
[deleted] 8y ago
Hmm, looks like the mobile version is jacked, but the desktop is fine. Ignore me then.
ChadwickStormphallus 8y ago
Yeah, I've also noticed something screwy going on with the app today.
QPRCHOC 8y ago
I'm a little new to TRP, but it sounds like you had a good thing going. Would it have been the end of the world if you wouldn't have been able to have sex with other women? I mean you clearly wanted her and it sounds like you had her wrapped around your finger. What would have been wrong with keeping it going?
[deleted] 8y ago
I see the OP's point, but yours makes sense too. If you feel comfortable walking away at any time, then short-term monogamy is not a bad thing, as you say. I think there's a need for balance, but it may have simply been more than he was willing to concede at the time.
SeekingTheWay 8y ago
Well I wanted but I have been hurt big time by my last two LTRs and I made a promise to myself to never let only one girl to be the source of every intimacy I receive. Dread is nonexistant then, and when she "doesn't feel like it", you don't get laid whereas if you had multiple chicks, there is always one of them that is dtf atm.
cjsenecal 8y ago
So you're saying you never want a LTR again?
SeekingTheWay 8y ago
I might as well have LTR alright. But not exclusive from my part.
Omnisovereign 8y ago
My pain turnt me more Machaivellian. Using the women as a game and gaining experience...
SeekingTheWay 8y ago
i can relate. but it's nice to see i still can have feelings for a girl, something i never thought would be possible in the last two years.
too bad she will never know about it.
fuckthapoliceNWA 8y ago
Well no.. She most probably actually couldn't come. People are busy, not everything is a hidden message or a power game..
Actually I feel that you're seeing every single of her answer and yours as a fight... calm down, sometimes it's really just about logistics.
SeekingTheWay 8y ago
It's not that. Usually they at least reschedule or provide an explanation. Like "I can't because I have xxxx" or "I can't today but how about Saturday?"... But this was flat out "no." or at least felt like it.
I think my interpretation and reaction of this actually helped me fuck her since she saw that unless she behaves good I walk away.
Omnisovereign 8y ago
Agreed on the not rescheduling part. When I receive these kinds of replies, I go ghost... If she doesn't reach out then next.
fuckthapoliceNWA 8y ago
you're both being oversensitive. Imagine a girl telling you "Hi, you can come tonight".. you could be answering "Hii, I can't" without being disinterested. I suspect she was even so sure you two were gonna fuck again that she just "cut through the bullshit" with a minimal message... At the end OP was the one "looking disinteresed".
For me disinterested people just don't answer AT ALL. It's the real "signal"
FrameWalker 8y ago
Dude stop explaining. Huge beta tell. Have fun with it maintain mystery. Let her hamster that she's not good enough (which she isn't honestly)
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probpoopin 8y ago
You failed the shit tests, plain and simple. You admit you had feelings, and womyn are very receptive to that. You don't have to directly tell them. When the relationship talk came out, you gave her a straight up answer, but should have went the joking sarcasm route. You didn't show an idgaf attitude, quite the opposite. I don't understand this scenario getting played out so much. Even if you want am ltr, getting oneitis is going to ruin it either way because it completely leaves out abundance mentality, which severely limits your ability to dread.
Guys, if you want an Ltr and have oneitis. You need to hide that shit deep, deep down and not let it be known. Showing the other person in the relationship you have options and aren't completely focused on them will give you a much better relationship anyways. When you show you are completely dedicated to them in the relationship, you fucked it up. You need to give off idgaf and abundance mentality if you want a healthy relationship or even keep a plate. Oneitis is the fastest way to being a beta, plain and simple. If you have it, don't show you do. You will only increase chances of success by keeping that stuff in.
SeekingTheWay 8y ago
i admitted it here, not to her. when i told her i dont put her in the same bag as my tinder sluts, it was in the context that she is also a friend to me being from the group and not just some stranger
probpoopin 8y ago
Should have went with that then. It didn't work, and I get the feeling you are throwing your hands up saying it is impossible not to know why it failed. That is what womyn do, blame it on timing, the universe, God, etc. That way, it is completely out of their hands and occurred because of some external force. It absolves them of responsibility. Anyways, you are kind of doing that now. It happened because you put her on a pedestal, above the tinder slots, instead of knowing from the start that's really all she was the equivalent to at the time. You handled it wrong. Now man up and take responsibility.
SeekingTheWay 8y ago
oh thats not true. i fully realize that this was my fault because ultimately women are just reactive to whatever you do with them. i was just exploring the options of what exactly was the problem.
on one side of spectrum i have not enough comfort, on the other side i have pedastalizing. while both my mistakes, just figuring out which one to learn for future
kez88 8y ago
I think with a little more comfort you probably could have avoided a lot of this and kept fucking her. Despite what TRP would tell you, girls do still a decent amount of reassurance and BP tendencies, especially if youre status in the group is already someone of high status who is known to be with a lot of girls. But oh well, you still banged her so could have gone worse
SeekingTheWay 8y ago
Yeah, I still somehow struggle to calibrate this, I think the social group game requires more comfort then ONS game in general.
But she was my 10th notch in that group so I am happy with what I got
kez88 8y ago
Just wrote a post on this, check it out if you like