Nofap has been around for some time, but I hadn't seen such widespread acknowledgment of the movement until this year with 'No-nut November.' My guy friends were bringing it up, I've seen heaps of memes and references on the internet, and even heard it mentioned by minor celebrities/internet personalities. After seeing it enough times, I couldn't comprehend how it could benefit anyone. Most of the participants were losers, and its advocates in the manosphere didn't seem to provide a great explanation as to how it helps.
This is because it doesn't. It's an easy way to forge a veneer of willpower/progress without building any value or reaping any rewards. Removing 'disvalue' from your life does not guarantee the creation of value. So, the horny toad that I am, I resolved to fap on every single day of November, and attempt to maintain and even improve my value at the same time. The interesting thing about fapping all the time is it means you're thinking about sex all the time; at the gym, at my dance classes, in lectures, in the kitchen, not just during a 4-hour Pornhub marathon. I found this to be particularly conducive to meeting and banging chicks. What I quickly came to realise is that 'nofap's' benefits are really just the benefits of wanting sex. Fapping and porn is an easy way out of being rejected and having to escalate with a real life human femoid.
Disclaimer: the contents of this post are related to nofap and abstinence from masturbation but not to the consumption of pornography. This is a topic beyond the scope of this post; anything I say in criticism of nofap shouldn't be taken as a criticism of abstinence from porn. If nofap is simply the way you abstain from porn, then great. Don't take the following as a criticism of that.
Let's Get Physical
If you're approaching and already having sex with every Stacy on the block, abstaining from fiddling yourself means nothing. Your plates won't care, your LTR won't care, your mom won't care, and nor should you. I fucked one girl 23 times - aloe vera moisturizer is a godsend for raw post-sex dickskin) - in the first two weeks of November (over the course of 4 different nights) and had a one night stand with some chick from my salsa classes, still carrying the other girls' bite marks and scratches on my chest and back. She could probably sense that sex was the only thing on my mind and my only goal at the time, and invited me to hers and escalated into sex without me even saying anything.
If you are viscerally sexual, girls will sense it, and they will like it. Nofap is not a healthy expression of your male sexuality. In the latter two weeks of Nut-Every-Day November, I fucked two different girls in one night (the second knew about the first), and had a very talented plate from another city bake me one of her cakes and bring it on the train; she bit a tiny bit of my ear off during sex and I made her lick the blood up. Show her your raw sexuality and it will drive her crazy (disclaimer: don't blame me when she's too turned on to stop herself from mutilating you).
After the first two weeks passed, I started seeing the complaints that none of the no-nut November adherents and Nofap disciples were getting laid. Funny that suppressing your sex drive doesn't get you laid. To repeat my earlier point; nofap only helps if it leads you to approaching/escalating more. But that doesn't mean you need nofap in order to do either of these things.
Destroy Your Dick December
Seeing the complaints flood in coincided with me finding GayLubeOil's post 'Destroy your dick December.' I would recommend going back to read it now if you haven't already. GayLubeOil's (very profound and practical) final point was tangential to nofap, but his observations on no-nut November were brilliant. Put simply, No-Nut November maintained a vacuous feeling of personal development with the corollary that the following month becomes 'Destroy your Dick December.' Now that we are midway through December, I think it's safe to say this was spot-on, yet not a source of shame for those who have fulfilled GLO's predictions. This echoes my prior point that the denial or abstinence from a vice does not create value. It may assist in doing so, but doesn't entail it.
I continued rubbing myself raw with masturbation and sex throughout November; as tiring as it is, it greatly reinforced my suspicions that nofap is only as good as its adherent. You can fap every day and lay 2 different girls a week, meanwhile No-Nut Ned is posting about his new superpowers on the nofap subreddit (including the epic story of how 3 girls made brief eye contact with him on the bus!!!!) and getting nothing. You get nothing from dooing nothing, and everything from doing something. Nofap means nothing if you aren't doing things right in the first place.
Final Thoughts
Masturbating every day and having sex multiple times a week is not sustainable and this isn't what I advocate in the post. The message I want to convey is not an indictment of nofap but a warning against inaction. You reap the oats you sow, so to speak. To the nofap zealots of TRP - before you comment telling me about nofap and how its a magical potion that turns you into a superpower, ask yourself why it works. Is it because it makes you more likely to approach/escalate? If so, then we are on the same page.
I look forward to hearing your feedback and thoughts, happy holidays to you all
OneHangsLower 5y ago
Most things masturbation (and porn to a larger degree) that guys think is holding them back from is honestly just in their heads. I tried doing it for few weeks to encourage me to talk to women and found while I did become more self-aware (especially towards women in my general vicinity) I didn't become some charismatic alpha sex-god. Approach anxiety, finding interesting conversation topics to talk about, etc. all were still issues and the over-aggressiveness from all the testosterone was probably a turn-off.
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Tldr - NoFap isn't going to magically get you laid.
TRParchivist 5y ago
NoFap "Superpowers" are men experiencing confidence for the first time in 20+ years, often for the first time in their life. The idea of taking control over your own destiny by actively changing parts of their meatbag body hasn't ever been experienced, and that idea is especially important and driving for men. Men exert themselves onto the world to change it, its a basic foundation for success in life. Experiencing one of the main pleasures of being a man, for the first time, at age 25, 30, 40, or whatever age they managed to make it to without those experiences, absolutely it must appear to be Superpowers.
Its more interesting to look at the NoFap movement in the big picture: there's enough schmoes out there that have never experienced one of the base, primal, foundational aspects of being men, that there's growing lifestyle movements based around the anti-consumption of porn and not tippy-touching yer' weenie. What's that say about the state of modern man?
lvanden 5y ago
Well done, do you want a medal?
Shieldless_One 5y ago
A lot of guys have no self control or self discipline which is why a lot of them dont see success in life.
What nofap does is it builds up your self control to deny yourself perhaps life’s greatest motivator.
That new sense of self control is empowering for a lot of guys and helps them get laid.
NextBad 5y ago
Thank you for this, to be honest I'm surprise such things are needed in TRP, society places to much emphasis on male sexual practices , than when they can derive no value from men or their sexual needs they shame.
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> Masturbating every day and having sex multiple times a week is not sustainable
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Correct, this is the only reason I stopped, I didn't call it nofap though, I realized that if I wanted to last long I couldn't masturbate,
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machocornflakes 5y ago
Not to be of unpopular opinion, but what nofap does for me is build up energy, things just seem to work when I haven’t splurted for a couple of days. I personally don’t do it to an extreme, I just enjoy the game on high energy and it makes things more interesting.
How I do this is spin plates, and fuck once or twice a week between one of the two plates I’m currently spinning. When sexual desire builds up, I keep my plates spinning while gaming on Tinder for a potential third because I generally don’t keep plates spinning for long (I lose interest quickly).
Apart from the sex, it generally helps me focus on my career, I tend to see things more clearly when I haven’t spilled the juice for a couple of days, and I move my chess pieces more fluently.
When it comes time to fuck, I fuck hard and do so a couple of times during the night/morning. Then I generally lose interest and stop giving a shit for a couple of days, and enjoy the buildup.
Call me crazy, but I like to plan my fucks.
Kurush559 5y ago
I've always done the same. I don't think you can really count this as nofap though, it's more like 'planned' masturbation.
machocornflakes 5y ago
Actually, after reading another red pill post I now know what nofap supports.
Holding frame.
machocornflakes 5y ago
It’s still nofap if you don’t masturbate for a week. Hell, two weeks, and my clarity/interpersonal skills are rock solid.
Its unpopular but it works, atleast for me. Not everyone is on the same page when it comes to this.
Incase I have an important event to host/attend, I can rely on it.
I don’t get phased during a lengthy time not ejaculating, I suppose it’s that.
Again, it’s the unpopular opinion, but it works for me when I want.
EL_Miore 5y ago
You shouldn't ejaculate, period.
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*DRIP*
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Did you hear that? That's your vitality slipping away.
Warrior_King02 5y ago
I am on nofap and as you said, majority of the people in the community are there to tackle a pornography addiction which is one of the reasons why I exercise it. The other reason is just the pure energy I get from doing nofap. I feel lucky to have found it at 16 cause it gives me energy for the day, school and gaming hot chicks which I personally couldn't do when I'd toss one off every day due to lack of motivation and no energy. I don't know about the rest, but the benefits work for me. However, if you're not tossing one off everyday you should be making sure that you're working on yourself otherwise it's useless.
Now this is not to say that I hate everyone that masturbates. It all comes down to the individual. For some, it's a healthy exercise and for others it's not. Sure there are some who aren't getting laid on nofap but the thing is they're working on themselves. Sooner or later they too can find TRP and it's principals, then boom they all start landing chicks every single day.
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ThrowFader 5y ago
Okay I see the point that you are trying to prove but did you really have to bust it everyday to prove that point?
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Or did you just find it convenient.
Kurush559 5y ago
It was more of a curious experiment and I wanted to see how it might affect me and my sex life, because before that I'd never masturbated excessively. It also made for good concept material when I wanted to write this post.
ThrowFader 5y ago
Wow, very interesting.
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I think I agree with your conclusion.
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Nice post.
tempolaca 5y ago
This is my experience also. Fapping didn't affected my ability to have sex at all. The one thing that really improved sex was fucking at least two different girls. Used to have erectile dysfunction once in a while. It vanished.
Foobyx 5y ago
The problem nofap tackle is porn. Some people are addict to it "masturbate? ummh, no thanks, but god i want to watch porn" ; it can lead to erectil disfunction and ejaculation problems. I think we all agree addictions are bad and we should do anything to clean it.
Furthermore: what work for you is not universal. Personnaly if i masturbate and orgasm some hours before going out, i will have low motivation to game girls. On the contrary if i abstain, i will rock it or at least do not give a fuck and game the girls i want.
Kurush559 5y ago
I did mention the porn thing. And then I mentioned that it only works if it makes you more likely to escalate. No need to repeat it
Foobyx 5y ago
what you say is not clear, anyway, it's always better to repeat
Kurush559 5y ago
I emphasised the latter point three times and put in a very specific and marked disclaimer about porn
Foobyx 5y ago
and despite this it was still confusing. you are boring, you teach something, i repeat to check if i and we have understood. You should acknowledge and stfu.
ding-dong-diddly 5y ago
Lmao.... who fucking upvotes this fakeass shit
Sirkisskindofman 5y ago
It's meant to be clearly exaggerated
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Kurush559 5y ago
The only people who ever claim this shit is fake are the ones who haven't been able to have fun sex with girls
longjeep2005 5y ago
Yeah bro, I'm gonna stick to boring, non-dismembering sex
Kurush559 5y ago
Whatever floats your boat bro
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MoDuReddit 5y ago
Some people lead sheltered lives.
red_philosopher 5y ago
You reap what you sow.
This is profound wisdom for anyone sitting idly and not getting shit done. You sow nothing, you get nothing. You play video games all day, you get good at video games. You lift, you get bigger. You don't sleep, you feel like shit the next day. You never talk to women, you never get laid. You kill some people, you go to prison forever. You work hard at your job, you get paid and promoted. You slack off all the time, you get fired (so you can be a slacker on your own time.)
Everything you do has consequences, first and foremost, for yourself.
Don't masturbate for a month? Great, what did you do with those extra minutes every day? If you sat on your ass eating potato chips instead, you'll get fat and it won't matter. You spent that time actually learning something useful? Great, now you'll be more attractive.
This is a fundamental law of the universe. You WILL reap what you sow, and no matter how much you want to deny it, it'll ALWAYS be there.
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kalashnick 5y ago
This.
NoFap can be a placebo. "Oh great, I haven't fapped in 3 weeks! That has to mean I'll come across as confident because I've retained my semen!" So they act out the way they already feel.
Semen retention is an ancient health practice that's got numerous benefits, but in this case, a penny saved isn't necessarily a penny earned.
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Foobyx 5y ago
well, it's this case it's not a placebo. Do not fap during x weeks take a tremoundous amount of willpower. How ridiculous the idea of not fapping is, they accomplished something that few people do.
Kurush559 5y ago
Your last paragraph is specifically what I was trying to argue for, and I like the idiom
bakamoney 5y ago
Or you could do your own shit like usual without following every random trend that comes by lul
throwawaythequays 5y ago
What's your height and weight? I feel like I could never have casual sex like you at 5'8 :(
Lib3rtarianSocialist 5y ago
That isn't true. If you're new here, go through the theory reading material.
Kurush559 5y ago
I'm 5'10, definitely isn't as easy as a 6'3 guy but why should that matter? A very small percentage of men are actually what girls consider 'tall' so there's no point even worrying about it. I love casual sex and have a high sex drive so I learnt game and lift religiously in order to get what I want. I'm completely broke too, and that has never mattered either.