“Don’t be such a beta cuck. Man the fuck up, be alpha and you’ve got the world by the balls.”
But how do you do this? Put on the demeanor that you’re a cold, heartless shitstain that has no consideration as to what or who’s around him?
Sure, you can certainly do that, and I indeed would implore one to. Burn it to the ground. See how far it gets you. Slowly but surely you will learn than pure mental aggression will not lead you to success. Or it might. I mean, that’s kind of what gave you that fire in the belly in the first place.
But as you trudge on through this path, you may find that you are having the urge to resist certain aspects of relationships. You may notice that you feel as if you have something to prove, that submitting yourself to other people is weak, that fully giving yourself to others in terms of servitude ie. submission is completely and utterly BETA, and that your frame is the master of masters and cannot ever be broken else you will lose yourself in eternal damnation.
But herein lies the crux of the issue. You wouldn’t understand true dynamics of social power unless you’ve gone through the trials and tribulations of understanding how people work. Without surrendering to others or “giving in,” how would you truly understand why you need to be alpha in the first place? How do you expect to lead others when you don’t know what it’s even remotely like to follow? I mean fuck, simply leading without knowing what the other person is experiencing is pretty fucking detrimental considering it wouldn’t last long as they will soon figure out that you can’t lead since you’ve never followed.
Instead of forcing yourself against others around you, submit. Loosen the fuck up. Give every single ounce of preconceived “self”- power you have to everyone around you. You wouldn’t understand what is on the other side without knowing what’s on this side. Force yourself to be your most vulnerable, and therein you will find your true strength.
“Water is fluid, soft and yielding. But water will wear away rock, which is rigid and cannot yield. As a rule, whatever is fluid, soft and yielding will overcome whatever is rigid and hard. This is another paradox: what is soft is strong.” - Lao Tzu
Also thought I’d insert this old comment since it’s relevant:
Consider this as a long-term investment: don’t be afraid to fuck up, again, again and again. Wanna know how you can attain the most power? Give all your power away. You wouldn’t understand the context of what you’re giving away unless you throw it away to other people first. Then will you realize power dynamics as you see it, slowly but surely. You chisel a statue of power.
EDIT: This is more if you understand yourself at a deep enough level that you’re flexible enough to do this. Do not do this if you’re still realizing your potential. Pretend as if you have lost every single game you have ever played in terms of social dynamics. Slowly you will realize that you are the prize and that everyone is trying to game you to win you over. This is a frame that you can use to your advantage to get what you subconsciously want.
CharCanDo 5y ago
That was a really good brain stretch. Thanks for being “that thread” when I checked the forum today.
The most successful I’ve been at clicking into the kind of social proof you’re getting at here is projecting good intentions. Invest your surroundings and environment, including the people, with your intentions to see, make, support, whatever, the best you can of it. Then people see you’re the kind of man around whom interesting things happen. Most of them don’t understand why or think you just are that way. Maybe some men are. But for me it’s a conscious decision - simultaneously expand your awareness and suppress all “out group” defense mechanisms that keep you tight in the head.
Robster25 5y ago
First of all: I really like your post and the idea behind it. Secondly: it is completely useless, even though you mean well (I still upvoted it). Let me explain:
I tried to introduce many people to TRP and self-improvement, but very few actually change for the better, even though they read one post after another and watch videos and read books about self-improvement. As you said they jerk-off to the idea, that they believe they are now smarter than the rest of the world, without realizing, that they are just sitting in front of a screen or a book. They are even worse than the people who got no clue about TRP and self-improvement. As Mark Twain said:
"The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who can't read them."
The good thing about this is, that you can see how people really are. Are they smart and capable of self-reflection? Or are they just posers looking for the easy way? Cut them loose and keep the people, who are making an effort to improve their own lifes and are thankful to you, that you showed them TRP and self-improvement.
Edit: Happy New Year!
Platapushkin 5y ago
It's only completely useless to people who don't first, understand the idea being conveyed and then maybe if it's for them, start applying it.
Feelinggood702 5y ago
Haha, very true. You wish you can help change others, but it is up to them to change themselves. Not enough evolutionary pressure in a man causes him to become stagnant.
Also, I removed the whole mental jerk-off segment to try to be a bit more reader-friendly. Or maybe just to keep the reader in a haze of belief. Muhaha.
Happy new year!
Robster25 5y ago
I would've kept it. We are (nearly) all grown men, fuck reader-friendly.
Nonstopas 5y ago
I guess im stuck in between the mental jerk-off and doing something. Re-wiring your brain and ego takes a lot of time, and you litteraly have to beat yourself first, before you can continue, and this is something i've been trying to do. Also the fact that im still young and not sure what the actual right path is, is what makes TRP difficult for me to understand in the long term.
What if, let's say we, treat it the same way guys in Scientology threat their religion, or the same way Jehovah Witnesses treat theirs, and we think that our path is ALPHA and the right one, and the others are BETA and wrong?
Synthetic_Citizen 5y ago
A critical point. What you describe is with Scientology and jehovas witnesses is blind belief and trust in in whatever the herd deems popular or acceptable. Such belief is based in the bliss of ignorance and herd mentality, never based in fact or logic but in feel good emotions , fantasy and those who dare to think for themselves are attacked, persecuted and exiled as dissenters.
TRP is far from belief, it is fact and evidence based. The unknown is revealed through experimentation and exploration. Free and skeptical thought is encouraged and alternative opinions are discussed and evaluated. There are no promises of reward for obedience or threats of severe punishment and misfortune for devergeance or deviation from the herd belief. There is only what has been proven to be effective and what has been proven not to be. You make up your own mind, reality does not care about your beliefs, morality or your concept of fairness, it simply disregards you and continues to be what it is. You are free to delude yourself.
NextBad 5y ago
Even the kindest person can be a douche if you don't sit boundaries, this could back fire, and it has for me, most people are good, most people want peace, but most people can be oblivious to your needs, and it is up to you to speak up. Most men are passive and submissive , and stay that way well into their 70's only to realize they should of never cared what people thought about them (Still care about how they feel)
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> : don’t be afraid to fuck up, again, again and again. Wanna know how you can attain the most power? Give all your power away.
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No, To attain power is to go for it, people want leaders, because people want someone to blame if things go wrong, most people are social cowards , thinking to much about power makes social interactions a very stressful game , if someone wants to lead , let them, I don't see this as giving up any power or being vulnerable, if they do a good job, give a sincere compliment because he/she has benefited your life.
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tl;dr If you build it they will come
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Feelinggood702 5y ago
Very good last paragraph you wrote there. Thank you.
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Ananonguy88 5y ago
Very wise post. All rprage phasers should make notes.
It is as you said. But note that only when you become truly powerful, you can allow yourself to be vulnerable. It comes naturally at that point, at some point you just let it go.
And getting there requires more than simply taking off your guard. You have to systematically get rid of laziness and cowardice in your life.
Neil1398 5y ago
Man funny I was going to go down this path this year. Before I found red pill I had already developed a stoic personality because of my experiences, i used to be a jokey kid had lots of friends but also enemies.
Now I want to let my guard down which is what I got out of your post man. I walked around with the scowl and poker faces but it’s barely gotten me anywhere especially in college as I commute to and from. If anything it’s protecting my ego from getting hurt. What I needed to learn instead was how to deal with those enemies which I understand and implement now ( when they arise occasionally )
That’s not to say I’ll start acting like this and reveal my cards to women but I will in essence become calmer and develop more of a positive mindset about life and share this with everyone so I can have a develop a better social life of abundance and make friends. I’m reading “How to win friends and influence people” and the “rational male”.
Have you read these books? What influenced your post? What books do you recommend a 21 yr old to read to best overcome this?
Thunderbird93 5y ago
I'd say it boils down to becoming the best at 1 thing only. We live in a specialized world of advanced technology. Look at how many people are in farming today compared to the past due to automation. Master one thing, mine is forex trading yours maybe marketing, sales or investment banking. Become the best at 1 thing and witness your value rise exponentially
rambler429 5y ago
This too is bad advice. Ok, so you've mastered 1 thing. What happens when that thing no longer gives value to the world?
I'd rather know a good bit about a lot of things than everything about 1 thing.
Thunderbird93 5y ago
Jeff Bezos mastered e-commerce when he started Amazon as an online retail platform in the early 90's. Now that he has mastered e-commerce he is no longer providing value to society? Your analysis is erroneous. To become the best at your craft is how you rise to the top. What do you mean by "no longer gives value to the world". In terms of demand and supply there is always demand for athletes, hence Mayweather, Ronaldo & Lebron in sports. Actors like Di Caprio & Bale, demand for entertainment. Even politicians are in demand hence elections. When I say master one thing I assume you understand I mean something lucrative, profitable that provides utility and value. I'm not referring to underwater basket weaving
Jack-Vance 5y ago
I turn my brain off when reading name dropping posts and it's served me well as I am not influenced by some "outlier". These names are a common point that we all know and stories to influence us can be built around. I guess if someone is inspired by the names and it helps them it's okay in the sense that RP men can build their own world any way they choose.
Thunderbird93 5y ago
These are not statistical outliers, they are men just like you and me who have mastered their craft. I am a Forex Trader who is trying to master markets. Its a steep learning curve like anything else. All I have is a Bachelors in Economics and I'm going to have to study more mathematics and computer engineering for algorithmic trading purposes. Even in my life I see the need to master my craft and be a successful at it. Why be a jack of all trades and master of none?
Pooddit 5y ago
There are people who prey on those who submit. A person must hold in his mind both things at all times: submission and keeping an eye out for toxic people and behaviors. Basically if it doesn't benefit you in some way, if it oversteps your boundaries and undercuts your self respect, if it feels wrong in your gut, don't do it.
Feelinggood702 5y ago
Yes, it is incredibly important to be aware of those behaviors and trust your gut as you submit to others. Once you understand that fire is hot, you’d know that it wouldn’t be a smart move to put your hand back in there.
TruthSeekingPerson 5y ago
How do you man the fuck up and be alpha? Well, first of all you have to start climbing social hierarchies. That social status is what makes an alpha. So whether it's lifting weights, working on your appearance, educating yourself, working hard and advancing in your career, all of those things are alpha moves.
It's not like you can just start negging people and get alpha status. Also, if you have physical limitations it's going to be harder to be an alpha. You'll have to rise higher in nonphysical hierarchies to do it.
I agree totally that to become alpha you have to tear yourself down. Once you humble yourself you stop concerning yourself with other opinions you can reinvent yourself in any way you want (that's reality based). But I think it's better to be independent than an alpha. I see alphas as running around catering to public opinion which to me is empty. But that's me.
DoneScannedIt 5y ago
This is focusing on outcomes and not the process of building/working on your frame. Higher SMV or smv should be a byproduct of the process, not its focus. At least that's how I've been thinking about it.
TruthSeekingPerson 5y ago
I totally agree. You can't control where you are in the hierarchy so you only improve yourself. And honestly those hierarchies are superficial. They aren't intrinsically valuable, mainly all they do is help you obtain status or material things. It can make life easier but it doesn't make it more meaningful (although there are people who convince themselves that it does).
jwarner95 5y ago
what is this hierarchies meme? explain your thought process more and stop relying on overused tradcon wording to do it for you.
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TruthSeekingPerson 5y ago
It's not a meme it's how society classifies people. Looks, strength, athleticism, money, power ... there are innumerable hierarchies. There's no better word for it. SMV is a hierarchy that takes all those different things in account. People are always climbing and falling. That's what life is for many people.
odaklanan_insan 5y ago
once you climb up, how do you avoid falling?
I've seen people who did nothing but the right, and still fallen all the way down to the rock bottom.
RedPilledGodEmperor 5y ago
constantly improve yourself. stay on top of your "game" when it comes to looking good, health, making more money. Re-invent yourself when you seem to notice that you are becoming stale or want to change people's perceptions.
Feelinggood702 5y ago
You’ve hit rock bottom, the lowest of the low. You’ve got no other direction to go but up.
TruthSeekingPerson 5y ago
You can't. That's the struggle of life. You marry a woman and it's just begun. You're always fighting to keep her. You get a promotion and you're still fighting to keep your job or climb higher.
The way you always win is to work as hard as you can but accept that you can't control the outcomes. That's why self-validation is so important, don't get sucked into thinking you aren't as good as someone else. You don't need anyone else's approval but your own.
Also I've had really low points in my life. It was all self-inflicted because I was caught up in not getting the right social validation. And I was doing the right things but our society didn't value it. I'm over the hump now and it's been years since I've felt better but that's because I stopped caring about what people thought I should be doing.
Feelinggood702 5y ago
I agree with your last two paragraphs. Just a bit of scarce thinking that it’s a fight to keep someone or something, though.
BurnoutRS 5y ago
This post is very psychedelic.
Who is stronger? The man who has never been an addict? Or the ex addict living clean? What about the man who has found balance? Is it a true sign of strength that a man steals himself from a force he is not familiar with? Some would argue the ex addict is the strongest, for he knows in his heart the true pull of addiction. Then you might argue, he has an easier time fighting an enemy he knows.
Having never known all, is it easier to choose nothing? What about some? Perhaps the hardest path to walk is to find balance. Can the ex alcoholic return to being a reaponsible, social drinker? Having had all, and nothing, can we choose some?
Feelinggood702 5y ago
I see what you’re saying. The integration of your past self into who you are today. That’s an incredibly tough thing to do.
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Becomefilthyrich 5y ago
Very insightful , The middle path is always the hardest , For the mind its always easier to hold to extremes Alcoholic vs fully sober . But very tough to maintain the balance in the middle .
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Feelinggood702 5y ago
I agree with this. I understand your approach.
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redpillcad 5y ago
Put on the demeanor that you’re a cold, heartless shitstain that has no consideration as to what or who’s around him?
I wouldnt say Alpha Behavior is uncaring. It's more of a mindset without attachments that are ego protecting. We control ourselves and ourselves alone. The rest bends to our frame or it doesnt. This doesnt mean uncaring and heartless. Far from it
odaklanan_insan 5y ago
like the joker scene in "the dark night" movie.
"you've got nothing.. Nothing to threaten me." Because no one knows what he fears or desires and he has no ego. he's just.. absolute poker face.
redpillcad 5y ago
To me more... if X happens great! If not, I'll navigate that.
External Expectations make people do very funny things
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whiteguy9988 5y ago
why is it alpha to not care about your fellow humans? in my opinion it is alpha if you value others lives above yours and act accordingly, we should progress as a species