This is a re-post from main to Alt account, the original has been deleted.
After reading through the comments in, "You are leading every woman, whether you like it or not." a lot of guys where asking for resources on fostering a leadership role with a girl. I figured this would be a good time to bring back this post for any newbies that didn't originally get to read it. It will also now be permanently searchable
Summary
Today I’ll share with you an easy and straightforward method of building a Captain & First mate relationship.
So you found TRP, started lifting, made some changes in your life and now you want to try your hand at getting one of those fancy first mate relationships you keep hearing about? For those of you brand new or yet to experience this type of relationship with a women, It’s fan-fucking-tastic and your women will love it too. When a girl admires you, looks up to you and most importantly respects you, she’ll do anything to make you happy and please you. And, more importantly, what a lot of bluepills don’t realize, she will love doing it. I’ve never meet a woman more intrinsically happy than when she is following a strong male.
I’ve been in every relationship you can imagine, I’ve been the aloof, the fwb, the uninterested, fuckbuddies, hard core blue pill, dead bedrooms, teenage googly eyed love and Captain and first mate. I can tell you out of all those different dynamics with different or even the same women, no woman is happier than when it’s a Captain and first mate relationship. There is a reason TRP advocates it so heavily and as surprising as it may be for some, it’s not because we are all pychopathic misogonistic shitlord asstwats.
But, how do I start this dynamic Clint?
Putting on The Leadership Training Wheels
The first step is setting the right tone with her. This isn’t a job interview and she isn’t your subordinate, she won’t just magically start following you, you have to build it and earn it.
You start with taking your girl to do something you love doing. Something you’re amazing, passionate, skilled or knowledgeable about. Something that when the topic comes up you light up with enthusiasm like the dog from UP chasing a squirrel. Something that you can’t wait to tell everyone about. That’s really it, I could just end the post here.
But I’ll dive deeper.
The core of Captain and first mate is a willingness to follow you, respect and admiration. These are all earned in different ways. Today we will just start with the first stepping stone, a willingness to follow you.
First things first, screening time.
Screening
If she isn’t willing to follow or join you in something you enjoy or love doing. Drop her ass and find a new chick. You don’t have to have everything in common but bare minimum she needs to have the mutual respect and enough curiosity to at least try to be interested in something you like, even if initially she might not really be into it. Don’t waste time on a boring, unadventurous bitch, you’re here to conquer the fucking world and she can fuck off if all she want’s to do is netflix and chill. If she at least puts forth the effort to join you in something she seems hesitant or uninterested in, you should be good enough to pull her into your frame with your passion of whatever it is you’re doing.
That’s the first step, put that in your list of shit you need to screen for.
Your Passion
Now, take her to do something you are awesome, skilled, knowledgeable or passionate about. It doesn’t matter what it is, it can be my little pony bro-con or whatever the fuck it is those guys do. The point is, it needs to be something you fucking LOVE. I can’t emphasize this enough. It should be something you eat, sleep and breath. And if you don’t have something like that in your life then you need to stop being a boring little beta and get out in life and find a hobby you love.
Things to steer clear of activities like video games. Yes they are fun, yes some chicks love them but that type of activity doesn’t foster a leadership dynamic. It needs to involve multiple, face to face people and be engaging. The more physical the better. You need to flex your knowledge in front of her and convey your emotional connection to the activity.
But guess what, I got your back because if you’re 6 months or a year into TRP. You should already have at least this one thing in your life that you are somewhat competent at. It’s TRP staple numero uno.
You guessed it, fucking lifting.
If you haven’t been slacking on your TRP homework you should be mildly proficient at lifting shit up and putting it down by now. Or you’ll at least be light years ahead of 80% of guys and probably 95% of girls. You don’t need to be Arnold Schwarzenegger to take your girl to the gym and show her how it’s done. All you need is to be moderately strong and knowledgeable about it. However, the more proficient you are at it, the stronger this bond will form. If you haven’t started studying nutrition, proper form and everything else in between on fitness. Today you need to start.
But again, you need to love it. There will one day be a point in your lifting career that you will love it. Trust me, that day will come and it comes for all, the hard part is getting there. If you have yet to wake up and be excited to hit the irons then you need to keep lifting and postpone the gym date till you do. This day usually comes soon after you start getting hard IOI or people generally complimenting your physique. This creates a positive feedback loop in your body with some chemicals and other shit that we won’t dive into for this post but just know, this day will come for you if you stick to lifting and one day you will fucking love it. This is just one example that should cover ever TRP guy.
Alright so why the fuck have you written all this Clint? Get to the fucking point.
Because of two reasons. One, when you know more shit about something than someone else, you’re valuable. Two, you bring here into your domain and there, you are the leader.
In Your Domain, You Are The King
You get to tell her what proper form is, how to track her progress. You get to practice positive and negative reinforcement in an environment suited for it. The gym is the perfect environment to groom a first mate in. You can teach her what her body actually does with protein, sugars, starches. What macronutrients are. Or help her on any ailments she may have such as back trouble, sleep issues, daily fatigue. And if heaven forbid she actually knows the definitely of a calorie before meeting you, slap her on the ass and fuck her on the roof of your car because I’ve never, ever met a chick that could tell me what the fuck a calorie even was. (Always give positive reinforcement)
It’s a common psychological phenomenon in game that if you touch a girl, she will be more receptive and comfortable when you touch her again. Or if you make her meet you at her house, she is more likely to be comfortable coming back to it later in the night. If you give her a tour of your house and spend a few minutes talking in your bedroom on how you built your own bed and furniture, she will be more comfortable coming back into your room later.
It’s psychological conditioning 101. When you lead her in the gym, she will subconsciously be more willing to follow you outside of the gym.
There is many different ways to developing a Captain/First mate relationship but I find that this is the fastest and surefire way to get off on the right track from the very start.
Next week I’ll cover Respect and how it plays a critical role in fostering this kind of relationship.
Lessons learned
Take your girl to do something you love and lead her.
The Captain and first mate dynamic is often mocked as being extremely controlling or misogynistic. It's actually the exact opposite. You will have to earn your first mate and anyone else that chooses to follow you. A girl will not follow a weak man, plain and simple, it's your job to be a great captain or she will leave. The idea of this being a controlling relationship stems from the no agency fallacy we often see from bluepills.
If you're a shit captain, expect for mother fuckers to be jumping overboard like it's the titanic to find a new ship. You have to be a Great captain to get a good first mate.
lakalahehe 9y ago
''Captain & First mate dynamic'' is one dynamic or two dynamics?
563967325 9y ago
Why isn't this on the sidebar?
TheRedStoic 9y ago
Control can be taken/forced, leadership is given/earned.
Feel bad for missing this, coming from you're 3rd lesson backtracking. Thanks Clint.
TheEnglishman28 9y ago
I think a lot on TRP think TRP is about spinning plates and an endless buffett of Tinder whores, it seems that when Captain/First Mate dynamic gets explained, it doesn't get the upvotes or comments.
I do think the ability to be an effective Captain is the same thing as being a Captain in every other arena, including spinning plates, only there, the "First Mates" are temporary.
Same principles apply.
[deleted]
VasiliyZaitzev 9y ago
I prefer the "Captain & Slave Girl" dynamic myself, but women -- the women you are going to want to be with, anyway -- like structure, and prefer that someone else be "responsible" for making sure things run right.
I've had plates tell me, at various, appropriate times, "I love how you always know the right thing to do." For men, this is really a function of knowing how to be a responsible adult, but the right girl or girls will appreciate it. If you're a capable guy and you have the right dynamic, the rewards will be great.
[deleted]
Clint_Redwood 9y ago
I found that if a girl is naturally submissive/feminine they will then naturally fall into this. My main plate just recently started referring to me as Sir. I never hinted at it or anything, just started referring to me as Sir one day, completely organic.
I believe I read a post from either you or Ohlama(Can't ever spell his name right) on how you get all girls to call you by Sir usually within the first meetup. I find it kinda funny that it just naturally happens even if you don't address it outright. I instantly thought of the post about "Sir" when she said it to me, it's amazing what TRP can predict with such accuracy.
RememberingAlpha 9y ago
Also dating a younger girl makes this so much easier.
Im 24 dating a 20 yearold runway model. She worships the ground I walk on to the point where Im almost losing interest. Its like Ive learned what dating beta me must've been like.
masnera 9y ago
your comparing a 20 year old runway model...to a beta. it's a cognitive dissonance for me.
RememberingAlpha 9y ago
Im saying the needy behavior is comparable. When I was dating an hb9 to years ago I bent over backwards for her while she seemed mildly interested at best. She cheated and left me, and I understand why now that the roles are reversed.
VasiliyZaitzev 9y ago
I think you mean /u/OmLaLa
I did a "Field Guide" to submissive girls and a "B&D 101" type post, because women who are attracted to me are generally very submissive. Convenient, as that's what I like.
vengefully_yours 9y ago
Same here, they want me time be rough, dominant, and capable of controlling not only them but almost everything around me. Nothing gets then wetter than being told what to do, but that is after I have something going.
If I ever allow a girl into my life again, she will know the boundaries and expectations, as well as the consequences of not meeting them.
[deleted] 9y ago
[deleted]
Clint_Redwood 9y ago
Planning on posting the next chapter in this, care to tell me how it went? feedback on my content is always appreciated.
[deleted]
Clint_Redwood 9y ago
Glad to hear. I'll probably be posting #2 tomorrow if i have time and possible 3 on admiration if i can get it written up. Feel free to leave your success in the comments.
kksweet 9y ago
Current Bp here.
Nice post, Saving this for later when I'm out of monk mode.
PandaCupcakexxx 9y ago
Gotta commend you for this quality post. This is what TRP should be all about.
RBuddDwyer 9y ago
I have to respectfully dissent from the Captain / First Officer model. Human sexual relationships are about polarity, the masculine to the feminine, complete opposites who attract to each other the more opposite they are. C/FO is a linear construct. A chain of command does not function well with polarity. A woman can never step up and fulfill the role of a man.
Edit: Rollo Tomassi also critiques it here.. He has different reasons then me:
Essentially, she gets treated as second in command with none of the burden of leadership.
irun247 9y ago
Second in command out of two people.
DuDota 9y ago
i have a problem with this. In my country, i can´t just bring a girl to lift with me in the gym.
I should convince her to pay the membership so we can workout togheter?
Clint_Redwood 9y ago
Use her as the weight.
Youtube "couple bodyweight exercises" or "two person workouts"
I sometimes skip the gym and just use some dumbells, shoulder press my girl, curl her, sit on my shoulders and squat, etc.
princepeanutbutter 9y ago
Man you were doing so well.
But I never take a girl to the gym and cant sign on to advice to do so. Like work, lifting has its own time and purpose and you lose frame by letting this girl, this nobody, interfere.
I'd also disagree you need to be a master. Having creative fun plans alone is enough, even if its newish for you too.
[deleted] 9y ago
If you're letting anyone, especially a girl, mess up your workout without physically stopping you from doing it, you need to learn some discipline.
Chinny4daWinny 9y ago
I thought the same thing, but my girlfriend has started working out with me and after the first week of stronglifts she has the basic exercises down. The most she distracts me with is asking me to get her the 2.5lb weights (as she's short), spotting her when she is benching, or checking her form.
verify_account 9y ago
You're going about this all wrong. Yes I understand that lifting is me time and you don't want no hoe there, so you take a just a few times and then she goes on her very own. You get your gym time back and she's working hard on her own to please you and look better.
Clint_Redwood 9y ago
Exactly, I can't cover every possible interpretation guys make when they read my posts but I agree with you.
Your girl shouldn't be some fashion accessory you carry around in the gym nor should you turn into her crutch for going to the gym.
You go in, show her you're domain, teach and guide her when needed but this is all working toward the goal of her being self sufficient enough to do it on her own. As a captain you show her your way then let her be an adult and handle herself afterwards. Don't drag her along to every gym day you have, show her a few times, if that, and then it's up to her to put in the work.
This isn't a weekly date thing you do with the same girl over and over and over.
I personally value my gym time tremendously as I've very busy outside of it. I'll take a girl a few times but then it's back to me solo. Training someone every day takes away from my lift time and cuts my intensity down to a level I don't like. I rarely talk to people at the gym as my focus is 100% on intensity of my workout and correct form.