Don't use TRP to sexually empower women.
There are men who see unabashed sluttiness and decadence as the ultimate sign that the feminine imperative has won. Sure, he doesn't think that any woman's earned her status, but he still concedes that she's empowered. It's these men, not feminists, who are the most guilty of praising sluts and who are the most empowering of women. They project fantasies onto these women of having endless amounts of only the best sex and of having endless amounts of servants and power. Instead of seeing her how the vast majority of non-RP men do, he's elevated her to such a status that he could never attain it himself, even if he doesn't actually want the chick because she's just too slutty.
The truth is that slutty women are like bad cheeseburgers. Nobody actually wants a Big Mac, but it's right there, it's ready now, and it doesn't cost much. Nobody finds Amy Scheumer attractive, but the reproductive cost for men is just low enough that he'll get it up when she's broadcasting her immediate availability. Nobody respects the Cheeseburger Sluts and no woman wants to be a Cheeseburger Slut. They don't sit there planning how to use Cheeseburger appeal to leverage the best genes, they just make desperate impulsive decisions. From what I see, the cheeseburger life isn't even much of a party. They fuck one or two guys per year and feel bad about it. There will always be propaganda to bolster sluts, but it has no place here.
Don't use TRP to give women authority over what a good man is.
A lot of people don't realize what the 80/20 rule means. It doesn't mean that the 20% are the best men who are tall, muscular, witty, funny, and naturally RP. It doesn't mean that the 20% are even the most attractive. It doesn't even mean that the 20% even "deserves" the sex it gets. It really just means that 20% of the men have 80% of the sex. I talk to a lot of guys here who screw themselves: They see the 20% as the "top" guys and so if they're not having sex, they see it as indicative of how good of a man they are and think they just aren't good enough for women. They psych themselves out of the game when they don't have to.
Recently I skyped with a guy at a top university who's six feet, rich, very muscular, and I'd say charismatic, but who wasn't in that 20% until we'd spoken for weeks. By any reasonable measure, he's a very high value man but just had the wrong attitude towards women. He so easily could have given women authority over his value as a man and decided to go self improve endlessly without even talking to a chick for another year. Instead, we talked and cleared a few things up, so now he's doing very well. Most of the guys I talk to aren't losers, they just think they are because they've given women the authority to decide their value and it really holds them back. What you need to do is assess yourself independently of what women think and then act strategically on that.
Don't use TRP to justify blue pill behavior.
Part of the reason women give such bad dating advice is because they genuinely do not know what they like or how to judge a man's attractiveness. They aren't rational enough to think logically about who's a good choice to fuck or even what they like to look at. They adapted to this by going with stupid heuristics that let her not think. They go for men who other women go for because they need to be told who they're attracted to. They go for men who treat them like shit because they assume he's earned the right by being so excellent, even if she can't figure out how. The system's got an internal logic to it and TRP basically figured it out. If you play the game right then it's pretty easy to exploit, but a lot of guys don't do it.
I call these guys "The Red Blue Pillers". They think to themselves: "I'm worth X and she might theoretically get more than that, so I'll close the gap by throwing some time or resources in." He's screwing himself by thinking that she's more rational than she actually is and he's fucking with her heuristic. When he spends those resources, he's not sweetening the deal like he thinks he is. He's making her second guess him. She's not thinking that he's now worth "X plus time and resources". She's wondering what he's compensating for and his effort actually lowers his value. His justification may be Red Pill but his actions are entirely blue, and so are his results. Don't do this. At all times come from a position of strength and play the game right. It's not that hard, just have some faith in yourself.
Ravage123 7y ago
Mr. "I've never posted on TRP"
HAHA go fuck yourself.
Redasshole 8y ago
I love sluts. Or rather, I love what they are so willing to give me. They give easy, cheap and good sex away. But I don't put them on a pedestal. I despise them and what they symbolize. But that does not stop me from using them.
BlackJ1 8y ago
I think this should be the main point of this post because a lot of times I find myself using TRP or simply the understanding of female nature to try and justify or rationalize my blue behavior or lack of ambition.
This generally leads men to feel pessimistic about relations with women.
Wel108 8y ago
Yeah for sure, same happens with me. Although the more time that passes, the more I can be myself again. Swallowing the red pill was quite challenging, especially after a breakup.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
All of this is very good to say out loud. But let no one forget that the game is rigged in their favor. Things will suck for periods of time and this has nothing to do with you- it's society at large. Everyone will fall and get back up again.
By internalizing what you just wrote the wrong way an RP man might achieve the opposite. Instead of taking himself out of the game he will put himself in the game expecting consistent results. Eventually the RP man gets discouraged by failures equally the same as before.
Internalizing RP means being game (and self) aware and staying confident holding this knowledge without external validation. It means staying true to your ideals and goals even if five plates flake and your girlfriend cheats with Chad. Because you now through and through- that you will be fine.
Now women will live their entire lives running on stress and emotions. Going up and down like a jojo while amounting to nothing. Don't be a yoyo- I know it's hard.
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Eh. Easy to forget in my opinion. It's not nearly as rigged as guys who psych themselves out make it to be.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
I think a combination of not psyching yourself out + having a realistic view of the SMP would serve one best.
RedPillRevenge 8y ago
Mate, I could use on of your pep talks.
Krainz 8y ago
This is the biggest takeaway from this post.
Overthinking game is rarely ever approached in the submissions around here.
T0000009 8y ago
BRAVO!!
We had the fella, tough as nails, hard core warrior, but he was a little afraid of heights. No big deal they train all that shit out of you over time, so whatever you fear ceases to exist.
Now we are sitting on this airfield getting ready to work, and he is constantly repeating "I can't do this" because he doesn't wanna go in at night, it's a low altitude thing, fuck I dunno. The dude actually talked himself right off the mission and out of the unit because of it.
He COULD HAVE been somebody, and made a hell of a life being an warrior, but he got weak and let his fear run him down.
Kid's don't be that guy, so what if some broad is out of your league or you can't score some tail, big fucking deal, so what. I spent months in the jungles all over the south doing way cool shit, and I didn't get no ass while I was knee deep in crocodile country. No dame is gonna take that from me, so don't EVER let the lack of female attention hold you back or set the terms of engagement.
bluedrygrass 8y ago
I'm no expert, but i think being afraid of heights is WAY more difficult to overcome than merely talking to girls. It's physiological, you can't do anything about that, you either have it, or don't. At least, that's my knowledge about that issue. Those fears are deeper than social issues, usually at least.
T0000009 8y ago
True, it's a real pathology, but it can be overcome. Social anxiety is just as powerful and can be just as debilitating don't kid yourself about it.
The point was that you CAN overcome those fears and be better, than you are today. It takes work and serious effort, and I've been there too. I didn't simply wake up one day and throw on my warrior kit, I earned it and had to overcome a lot of insecurity and personal failures to do it. There is no shame in any of that, no loss of honor, and it isn't disgraceful to begin from a place of weakness.
You cant break stone until you first break you fear of pain.
Attentive1 8y ago
Don't fall for the Cinderella/Snow White stories where you're looking for that "ONE True Love". The fact is that we have many people that are good for us at different times of our lives. Personally, I step up to women the way I talk to guys. I try to avoid getting sucked up by their beauty or body and I try to be funny and likeable. If they're tomboyish and can keep up then good, if they're girly girl but they can keep up the conversation just like any other person, like one of your buddies, then I MIGHT be inclined to flatter them or ask them if they want to hang out with me and my friends. This way you can talk to pretty girls or girls that would normally intimidate you and you can evaluate them as a person and not as a pretty girl. If they're stuck up, are not interested in you or are just plain boring you can walk away. Work off of the premise that everyone wants to be liked and if you show them that you're interested in them and they don't respond then they don't want to be liked. Forget them and keep pushing.
ioncehadsexinapool 8y ago
Your comment motivates me but to do what I don't know
T0000009 8y ago
When the bullets are flying you just run, don't matter where too.
Pick a spot and go to it!
WhySoRuff 8y ago
Save this poor bastard
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[deleted] 8y ago
I nominate "cheeseburger slut" as a common term going forward.
WhySoRuff 8y ago
Double cheese - stacked
extra sauce - squirter
Sesame seed bun - loves anal
Animal style - no gag reflex
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thisisathrowaway2703 8y ago
I want the family dinner box.
Lucifer_The_Unclean 8y ago
I'll have the combo please, super size me.
siriusisness 8y ago
lol yeah i was thinking the same thing
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Meat-on-the-table 8y ago
This is a big part of my dislike for most PUA shit. The focus of the man's life becomes women and sleeping with them. The crash and burn comes when he finds that "special one" and can't figure out why she rejects him; all of a sudden, he's not good enough for women.
Judging your worth as a man by how women perceive you is disastrous and, even worse--it gives power to the fems and society.
Redasshole 8y ago
Jack Donovan explains it in the way of men. Men's value is NOT defined by how good he is with women. Fucking women is the last masculine thing men are allowed to do nowadays. Plus, the feminine insist that if you are not a stud, you are worth nothing. But even though fucking women is masculine, it's not what's the most important to define men masculinity and value. But since that's all they have left, and since that's encouraged by women, medias and society, men ego invest in that pursuit. And it benefits women, of course, because men needs them to be happy AND to be worthy (seriously? In order to be a valuable man I have to fuck X sluts/month or else I should be ashamed?).
clonegreen 8y ago
I really think it's this type of thinking that has created the framework for feminists to thrive.
Guys nowadays are comfortable in making the women feel like the prize, as if she is the audience that requires a performance.
TheRedStoic 8y ago
Reminds me of watching the roosh videos about Canada, throughout which he professed only how victimized he was, how he would soldier on, and how he needed to get laid.
The first two, sure, media, but he never mentioned a single other hobby. That irked me from the get go.
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max_peenor 8y ago
Not a fan myself. If you have to work that hard to get your dick wet, you really aren't a high value man. Steady, high quality sex should be an (as in one of many) outcome, not the goal.
To put into perspective: you think an orgasm is a great sensation? Try the feeling of telling a thousand other men what do to and they do it just because you said so.
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What's wrong with making the results (outcomes) the goal? Aren't our goals to get the best results we can in every aspect?
Golden_Dawn 8y ago
Why? Why should this be an outcome?
max_peenor 8y ago
Eh. It doesn't have to be. The distinction made is whether it is a goal or an outcome.
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Getting what you want out of life should be the goal. If you want to sleep with high quality women (as most men do), then that should be the outcome. If you don't have an interest in that, you should still be seeking what makes you happy as well as a better man.
NightwingTRP 8y ago
Women who are sluts suffer whatever the psychological equivalent of money illusion is. For those who want a quick definition, money illusion is where you get a raise of 2% but inflation is at a higher level, say 4%. You feel richer, but you're actually poorer.
By broadcasting her sluttiness, she gets attention and sex at will, selecting the more attractive of men in her circle. This makes her feel more attractive. However her sluttiness means no self respecting man or high value man will ever consider her relationship worthy and she's actually significantly less attractive. Such is the problem of operating on feels first.
mrrooftops 8y ago
2 steps forward 4 steps back.
clonegreen 8y ago
It seems the quality of women today are depreciating at such an increased rate.
I've seen hard working, disciplined men give themselves to slowly depreciating, never exercise, stay out late nights drinking, Instagram "selfie models" who earn these men's appeal.
These women literally offer nothing more than sex since they've failed to gain any relevant life experience.
So many of the women I meet can't and don't want to learn to cook because they deem it "old fashioned".
NULLTROOPER 8y ago
I am a proponent of the idea of devoting yourself to yourself, monk mode for life man. This is your one and only existence why waste it on the dredges of a degrading society, focus on building something for yourself.
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If sex robots ever actually become a thing, its going to be epic the impact it has on society. Like a societal version of BC/ AD. I realize the parallel that draws is that sex has become our god. Maybe not sex but pleasure. Really though, two of the greatest things people experience that makes them feel alive is pleasure and pain.
Stythe 8y ago
This is the saddest thing to me. Society has encouraged it and women buy it because they get dick and people praise them for getting dick. But all it leads to is emptiness, insecurity, a prescription for Zoloft and broken person who seeps deeper and deeper into a haze of depression because nobody tells her how things actually are. Or if they do, 10 other people tell her that person is "just insecure" or something. The sad truth is, even if these women turned their lives around, most people wouldn't believe it. It's like someone telling you they've stolen money from all their friends in the past but they won't steal it from you. The damage is done and just like a fat person trying to get in shape, fixing those issues becomes a far longer, much more tiring uphill battle than it would have been in the first place.
I have numerous friends. Or had, I stopped keeping in touch with most of them when i realized their lives made me sad. One in particular who is actually a very sweet girl does nothing but drugs and party. He current boyfriend has insecurities about her lifestyle and it shows, though he won't admit it because he wants to live the party life as well. Still, you can't be a party girl and expect someone to commit to you. The two don't fit and that's what people miss. Partying is drugs, sex and craziness with no direction or discipline. Although doing a lot of drugs certainly helps numb the truth until it explodes, I suppose.
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Isn't it ironic that for guys is the opposite? For guys getting girls is good and has no negative consequence.
Lucifer_The_Unclean 8y ago
But sluts still get a guy who bends over backwards for them. There was a 4chan post not too long ago about a woman bragging how she has a boyfriend who doesn't care about her sexual history. ie, he's a cuck.
occupythekitchen 8y ago
I prefer the term pussy blind.
Stythe 8y ago
I think there's a world of difference between people who don't care or get cucked and people who don't see the logic behind this and make poor decisions.
In the case of the person I'm talking about, her dude met her in a public gangbang. Literally, he met her at a bar and the same night they, and someone else, banged on a van in public. They'd both broken up with their ex's less than 6 months prior, they both party, both do do insane amounts of drugs, both don't seem to have solid life goals, so they fit like forced puzzle pieces.
As someone who used to be far more into that group and those kinds of people, I can say looking in from the outside it's just a nest of dysfunction. But they aren't bad people, they're simply a mess. At least for now it's going alright, but I sense it getting worse as time goes on. Shocking, I'm sure, but not my business at all.
detachedbymarriage 8y ago
This is especially true as you get older. The truth is, when you reach your 30's and 40's, it is extremely rare to find a woman with partners you can count on your fingers (or without kids for that matter).
I have simply made it a rule that I just don't ask anymore. It's not b/c I want to get "cucked". It's simply because there is no real benefit from knowing.
BenjiDread 8y ago
I see where you're coming from. Crazy is crazy, no matter the notch count. It isn't necessary to obsess over the origin of the crazy. Identify the crazy through their behavior and adjust accordingly.
Stythe 8y ago
State of the world, I guess. If I'm just hooking up I don't much care. When it comes to dating someone though, the emotional baggage most of these women carry is scary on it's own. A kid is literal baggage. The two combined is just depressing.
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I needed this so much. Thank you.
_J_J_ 8y ago
That essentially describes me. I just haven't played the game right. Made good progress in the recent months, but not where I want or could be yet. A Red Blue Piller is where I'm at. I am a very rational thinker which doesn't help given the nature of women. I need to get to full Red Piller mode.
cariboo_j 8y ago
Excellent post. I've been saying this shit for months: being "alpha" just means being in control of your own life and valuing yourself based on your own standards.
If you measure your self worth by how many women you sleep with (or even how many conventionally sexually attractive traits you possess) you're still playing by the rules of the feminine imperative.
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throwawayyourliberty 8y ago
Great topic, some points clicked but I did not get overall essence of the Red Blue Piller.
So they are evaluating their self-worth externally and not internally, am i right? They are defining themselves, because they get no sex and value themselves by validation from women.
Can you go deeper here? You did at the end and also said you talked to him and "cleared things" up. I grasp your concept a little bit, but i really want to understand the underlying principle, because i may fall also in the category.
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Maybe it is just me, but I can't help laughing inside whenever someone puts the word 'empowered' in a sentence about women. It must be all the times I see women talking about being 'empowered' when it is perfectly clear that they are not, they are just shitty people demanding special treatment. Because somebody (like Daddy Government) can't 'empower' you, you either have power or you don't. If you have been 'empowered' it means someone who actually has power is standing behind you pulling the strings, making sure the little girl doesn't fail.
The instant a woman uses the word 'empowered' it is the same as if they said 'patriarchy' or 'rape culture' or 'womyn'. It says she is bottom of the barrel dregs, not worth another moment of my time.
Good post; saved.
occupythekitchen 8y ago
It's like the term tolerance. I don't have to tolerate shit I'll simply walk away if it bothers me.
I do like how you defines empowered though
Stythe 8y ago
Last summer I was at a music festival. I was really excited to see a band from my city. The band has a male and female lead and they sing different parts of the songs. They are a fantastic band but during the show the guy told the audience that he thinks it's "sad that so many guys are afraid of an empowered woman like his partner." His partner was climbing up the side of the stage after chugging a glass of wine she asked the audience if she should chug, then chugged "not because they told her too, but because she wanted to." She was also pretending to shove the mic in the dudes mouth like a blowjob and a number of other immature things.
I couldn't take any of it seriously. I thought she seemed like a total idiot. They both did in that sense. To be fair, a lot of artists don't seem to be very socially aware, but this was just ridiculous.
They did put on a good show at least.
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Ah yes, the 'afraid of empowered womyn' attack. When actually you are just disgusted with her and think she is an entitled piece of shit. The astonishing thing is that the guy could talk like that and everybody didn't just groan and say, 'shut the fuck up, you idiot mangina!'. It is coming, I see terms like 'mangina' and 'beta' appearing all over the place now.
Stythe 8y ago
They were lively and put on a good show at a festival. Most of the people there are the definition of loose in most senses of the word. It's not astonishing, it's expected. They were in the perfect place for that kind of speech. Plus, musicians.
Still, it's ridiculous that he believes that to me. Admittedly and unsurprisingly a lot of their songs are about bad relationships. One of his parts in a song is straight up about considering suicide because his girlfriend cheated on him. I don't know if it's from his life or not, but if that's what he things strong and independant is, it wouldn't surprise me.
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Stythe 8y ago
You're overthinking it. To your question, yes, it's worth it to me. I thoroughly enjoy their music and I thought their set was amazing. I just thought the comment he made was dumb, especially given the context.
As for the music, I listen to music for enjoyment first and foremost. How a band thinks and feels in their personal lives is irrelevant to me. I also happen to love the emotion bands can get when they're being blue pill. Kobain was a drug addict, but you could feel his anger and pain in the music and I appreciate that, even if he caused it himself with his actions.
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Stythe 8y ago
I can see that. It's like RATM to me. I enjoy the intensity of it but after a few songs I get really frustrated listen to him scream about shit. Milage varies according to the band, their level of narcissism and my own taste and current mood.
Attentive1 8y ago
Come on guys, the majority of problems that you're talking about mainly fit white women. Their stock is over inflated especially the younger ones. They don't cook, they don't clean, they're fickle. As soon as the smallest problem comes up they bail on you. They're not about you, they're about themselves. Just look around and see how other women treat their men. Go date an Asian or a Hispanic and feel the difference. You're the Top Dog, you're the one that's the catch.
slickdevil1 8y ago
I'd say asians or hispanics that grew up in the West are no better, tbh. Unless they were raised really old school by their parents.
shoutout_to_burritos 8y ago
It's a shame because I'm far more attracted to white women.
unicorn-carousel 8y ago
Met a FOB Spanish chick recently... might want to look out for those.
shoutout_to_burritos 8y ago
(This subreddit loves their acronyms. Thankfully there's Urban Dictionary.)
Elaborate please?
unicorn-carousel 8y ago
Fresh off the boat (FOB) Spanish girl... damn. Was very much not on top of my game when we met through a friend, but she had lots of charm for a white girl. I've since met a couple 1-2yr off the boat Russians recently and they seem pretty caring and feminine as well.
Battle-Scars 8y ago
But Cis, my gal ain't like that, really she ain't...
Seriously, good post and thank you.
Now I'd like a cheeseburger slut to go please.
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This is where you lost me. This whole post is the sour grapes fallacy, and it also indicates to me that you don't have an accurate knowledge of how the average slut actually lives her life.
You are foolish and you haven't properly processed the anger phase if you truly think that the average slut won't have excitement, free stuff, and a never ending string of adequate suitors thrown at her all throughout her 20's only to change her ways and settle down at 30-35 with a chump.
You're trying to attach your moral values to the natural world. To me, trp is about looking at the world how it truly is without the biased morals that certain parts of society implore you to feel.
I reject the notion that sluts should hate their slutty life as much as I reject the notion that a man's success with women should determine his contentedness with life.
What you're trying to say is that you shouldn't compare your reality to others' reality. Your reality is defined by your subjective assessment of it. Everyone has the same access to happiness if they accept themselves, which is an important part of becoming a confident man. However, insinuating that young men should delude themselves into thinking that women just don't have it that great doesn't do the rational nature of this place justice. From our viewpoint, women do have it that great. They can have the things that we want for ourselves served to them on a platter. The truth in your post is that they don't actually want those things. In the end, they don't get what they truly want just like the man who determines his self worth through his success with women doesn't get what he truly wants. They don't get it because they didn't earn it, both strategies are attempts to get what one truly wants without having to put in the legwork for it.
A woman's most powerful underlying drive is to create the best possible family, a man's most powerful underlying drive is to have a meaningful life. A slut betrays her natural progression by not exercising greater judgment in choosing a mate, and a misguided man betrays his by assuming that success with women equals a meaningful life. The difference is that modern birth control makes a woman's poor life choices mostly consequence free, while every man still faces the full brunt of his foolishness when taking accurate stock of his life.
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Exaggerating is fun, but I think it intimidates a lot of guys who are too new here to see it as playful fun, and that stops them from reaching their potential. A lot of the reason I wrote this was to clear that up. It's your right to see sluts as fucking more than a couple guys per year, but I really just don't think that too many women are getting 20+ partners by 25. I think I know the women in my life to pretty decently and from my experiences, what I wrote is pretty accurate.
No, this isn't what I said at all. I said women shouldn't be the judge. I never said that you should judge yourself as being one of the better guys. A lot of guys truly are not the best when they critically examine themselves. However, plenty of great guys just haven't leveraged their merit into sex even if they'd be good enough to get it if they just made one little mental adjustment. I'm 100% genuine when I say that I know some guys who've really earned my respect, but haven't nailed many chicks.
[deleted] 8y ago
ah, the ol 'do it for her'. Almost as bad as 'that'll show her' crowd
103342 8y ago
I mean, at first you can use w/e to motivate you. Hell, a lot of my hobbies I started for pussy.
But, if you keep doing it just for pussy you will eventually give up.
cariboo_j 8y ago
Gotta find that flow state.
Rock climbing has never got me laid. Almost killed me a couple times.
But I still keep coming back for more...
genghiscoyne 8y ago
"Countless failed bands later he finally buys recording software and makes the greatest music the world will never hear"
TRPhd 8y ago
It happens: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_Inch_Nails
It just almost never happens.
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IVIaskerade 8y ago
You don't say.
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specifics? Because anything substantive in here tends to be the exact oppositte of what you describe.
Keep in mind that the shit college freshmen posts of what they saw a woman do on facebook doesn't count.
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Yeah, stop judging karate by the quality of its white belts
MyPasswordIsLong 8y ago
Your last paragraph doesn't make sense to me. Wouldn't that render every attempt to rise your SMV useless? The justification of raising ones SMV doesn't even matter from my point of view. People often tell me that I should enjoy life more and not train/work so hard. They think that I'm trying to compensate something even though I'm doing it entirely for myself.
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I didn't write not to raise your smv or not to better yourself. A lot of men will think they can boost their SMV by offering shit like time and commitment to the chick. They figure it's gonna be a bonus or a supplement, but it actually does the opposite. Even if she'd otherwise think that you're a high value guy, she's gonna assume that the dinner you bought her is covering up for something and it's gonna hurt your situation instead of helping it. I wrote that paragraph about actions like favors or commitment, not about shit like lifting.
MyPasswordIsLong 8y ago
I misunderstood you. Time and ressources meant for me lifting, making money, socializing and so on because of the invested time and ressources. Favors and commitment didn't even cross my mind.
unicorn-carousel 8y ago
I wish you weren't speaking truth. Plates are happy as plates. As soon as you give them more, they start treating you like shit and calling you essentially a bad boyfriend. Hard to get used to for an old romantic, but it seems that plates are happiest as plates only.
occupythekitchen 8y ago
I disagree not completely but on a basis. Having some female friends who you aren't attracted to but they are is great. Friends will come around and notice that and try to conquest you, she'll pay for your attention and bring the buffet and when you are tired of her group bs some guys will come around and seek your approval to join the group.
Of course after a while she'll hate you but by then you should have a replacement.
Dexontronox 8y ago
Useless here is a subjective term. What is your goal? Like the big mod post said a little while back, TRP is a set of tools. You decide where you aim for, you decide where you go.
If you're doing these things (Lifting, gaining social skills, gaining practical skills) for their own sake, or their benefit to your life, then of course it's not useless. But if you spend your whole life trying to make yourself worth enough for a particular woman or type of woman, you're gonna end up losing.
MyPasswordIsLong 8y ago
I should have explained it better. I didn't mean that raising ones SMV is useless in itself. I was just talking about perceived SMV. You could argue that someone trying to get rich/ripped/whatever is actually just doing it to cover an inferiority complex. That could lower your perceived SMV.
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