Sup fellas, got a short one for you here.
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I saw a post today that included in it a bit about breaking things off with a girl, and her demanding he pay her back for lunch the previous day, despite his buying her dinner and movie tickets earlier in the week or some bullshit like that. Several of the commenters questioned his giving her the money, asserting that "I'm too alpha for that shit."
Giving her the money was the right call, good job bud.
You have to pick your battles fellas. A successful life isn't built through a one-hundred percent success rate (unless you're a trust fund kid in which case fuck off). In fact, a life like that would be unfulfilling. What would success mean to you if you never had to face adversity?
Success is a progression, in the simplest of terms. Success over time. You don't need to engage in every battle, you don't have to debate any moron, you don't have to deal with everyone's shit.
What's important to you? What kinds of things are worth your expense? You can ask this of yourself any time you're in a given situation, but the masculine man knows this intrinsically. He knows that he has to (E.g.) face constant scrutiny from his high-level job, and so he doesn't waste energy squabbling over petty matters. I'd even go so far as to say success in a petty battle comes not from whether or not you "won," but by how smoothly and how quickly you moved on from it. Do you think the Clintons have the time or energy to engage in every debacle, every sex scandal, every email controversy, every hostage situation gone awry? (Trump throws money at situations too, I respect the move from both sides.)
In this particular case, the easiest way to complete your goal, to get this girl out of your life, was to just give her the $15 that means absolutely nothing to her (this clearly depicted an emotional reaction resulting in her grasping for straws to either justify hostility against you or help her feel like she came out "on top"). Are you kidding me? "Here, take $20, get lost."
We aren't goddamn gorillas. Not every challenge means something in the world that we live in, but some challenges mean a great deal; focus on the latter. Give her $15, save your energy for #MeToo #NotLeftOutImJustAsImportantAndBrave. Observe the elite class of the South around the Johnson era: Send your pregnant daughter away to the cape to have the baby and pretend she's on a semester abroad, worry about the new up and coming congressman who's planning a tax raise in your county.
I think you get it by now.
Kavanaugh 2024?
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EDIT: I guess $15 means a lot to some of you. But maybe exercise your critical thinking skills for once and relate this example to my post. She wants to be upset at him for something. She doesn't want this whole thing to be her fault, so if she can get him stuck on this $15 she wins. "He owes me money! I fucked him and he stole from me! LOOK AT HOW VICTIMIZED I'VE BECOME!" $15 is a small fucking price to pay to move on from what is clearly a lose-lose situation. Too many of you have these unwarranted, inflated alpha egos and you need people to know that you're just too good for that. News flash: You aren't shit. If every small thing is a big deal for you, you won't go far. If you take it personally that you need to give this girl money instead of looking at it for what it is, a shit-test (a shit-test you won't win), then I feel sorry for you. Your life must be exhausting; what with the constant dominance-assertions and checkmates. You're not going to win every time; better offer the draw than be defeated. And if you still can't ever possibly conceive of yourself losing a small battle to win the bigger war, then myself and the others who get it are all the better for it.
strikethrough123 5y ago
Okay, let’s do it your way. Let’s say I’m in that poster’s situation:
Her: (whatever bullshit to indicate she owes him money) Me: in my head, “Is this worth my expense (in this case, $15 of my money)?
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No.
EDIT: I find your edit displeasing as well. The thought for me to give her $15 wouldn’t even have crossed my mind. I’d just laugh at her pathetic attempt to get any amount of money from me. I can get a delicious large bowl of pho for $10, and here’s this girl trying to extort free money from me with some bullshit threat to my repuatiation that everybody would deem her unreasonable for?
JonathanMekerset 5y ago
If you have any frame at all you don’t need to do shit. Rationalize it with “pick your battles.” I don’t battle at all.
Tuplad 5y ago
There was a post on here about a TRP idea and the OP put up a disclaimer going like: "guys, TRP is a tool, don't be autistic about it and follow it to the letter."
I really think a lot of men here are shallow and insecure, have a low body count and now have discovered TRP. It empowers them, but it gets in their head too quick that they are alpha and all that, when in reality, only thing that has changed is the way they look at women. No improvement of SMV, job, looks, whatever.
Some stuff I read here (especially comments) is cringe worthy, but a lot of it is great, applicable in real life and offers insights. Don't get too lost, TRP is a great tool, don't be autistic about it. Giving the money was the easiest and best way to get rid of her, and now someone somewhere thinks highly of you.
I'd include the disclaimer more often though :P
Luckyluke23 5y ago
if 15 bucks saves you a headache down the line... I'm all for it.
it's like that old PUA rule. Don't by women drinks at the bar.
SOMETIMES that's ok. but the VAST MAJORITY of the time it's not.
kiwifx 5y ago
15 bucks? I'd pay that shit weekly as an insurance policy, just for a number I can give out to a drama-prone bitch who needs to win.
Here, woman, call this number and speak to my people.
Self-honest 5y ago
I wouldn't have done it, but he fucked up offending her the way he did. So I think it was probably the right move at that point.
Tuplad 5y ago
A wise man once told me, when someone lends money and never gives it back, you got off cheap. You paid for that friendship essentially. Imagine what misery those 15$ saved him in case she was some batshit crazy stalker.
We've spent money on stupider things.
Self-honest 5y ago
"Imagining" is the problem. That's what girl's do. I'm not afraid of some chick. She isn't going to do anything. Block everywhere. No contact.
Like I said, he played this poorly so the choice to pay her $15 to go away might have been in his best interests. But just don't fuck up to begin with then we're not even having this conversation.
Edit: I agree with OP's sentiment about picking your battles. Let's not lose the point and argue about the details of how it applies to this one situation (aka let's pick our battles).
BurnoutRS 5y ago
To me, any grief incurred as a result of not paying this woman is worth the money I kept in my pocket.
Ask not for a lighter load, but for broader shoulders
Quaternionz 5y ago
What the fuck is this post. Don’t give her the money and just move on. Ignore her texts or just block her.
Please downvote OP into oblivion here.
On a related note, women are total cunts about money in general. Pay for everything with your plates and don’t expect anything back. It puts you in the dominant position and it helps make you the unambiguous authority in your decision making when hanging out with them, assuming the decisions involve spending money (casually or otherwise). When you pay it makes them feel protected, feminine, and safe, which translates into a better overall gender dynamic. It’s your life and they’re just along for the ride. The ride is free (at least in terms of dollars).
The only time I’d ever consider letting a woman pay for anything would be if we were in an LTR and she had a decent job. But even then I’d rather find a way to live a lifestyle where I’m the sole provider and my LTR manages the house and the kids. She’d get an allowance and that’d be that.
Women love to use finances to hamster up manufactured drama. It’ll always be irrationally overblown and self contradictory. One month your LTR will literally be in tears because you were $40 over budget and let it spill onto a credit card. “She can’t live like this, she can’t handle the stress, she needs financial security, etc...” But then the next thing you know she’ll be planning out in excruciating detail how she’s going to spend your entire $25,000 savings on a one night party. If you try to tell her how batshit insane that is she’ll cry and very possibly end your 5 year long relationship.
Women are children. Zero money control for her except for an allowance. Zero.
Good-Boi 5y ago
Only a cuck would give that foid money. Shoukd have had a big laugh at her and moved on with his lyf
AllahHatesFags 5y ago
Why give her anything? Ghosting her is free and easy.
yammyha 5y ago
lol at transactional cost of giving and taking ; capitalism
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
Show weakness (paying her just because she demands it) shows that you're weak. There's nothing the leftist SJW feminists love better than a weak man, an easy target. They start with demands of money, then move onto pound-me-too harassment, then claims of rape and at every step the weak man tries to appease the oppressor by supplicating, apologising and paying.
Weakness invites attack: show none.
Tripletag 5y ago
But you can just hand over the 15$ in this case and still remain secure in your own masculinity, right? I am on the side of the 'wouldn't pay' in this scenario, don't get me wrong, but don't you feel OP has a point in the sense that over-analyzing such a trivial thing really just displays you care too much about the damage this particular broad can do? That seems to me like a weak state of mind.
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
Because you hand over money you're not owed to someone who just asks for it?
"Hey, I'm weak, have some money! Make some more threats and you can have even more money!".
Did you even read what I wrote? I highlighted the salient point in bold.
tekkato 5y ago
Hi OP I totally agree with your post. When my oneitis broke up with me, she owed me U$500. I'm a very proud dude (pre RP), sometimes too mutch. I thought about asking for my money, I really needed it at that moment. She texted me, saying she was going to try to return the money, but that now she could not. She started to use the money as an excuse to start texting and get validation. But as soon as she broke up with me, I started lifting and running (before knowing about TRP), I also
asked for a salary increase in my job and got it. I started saving a lot of money. And when she texted me again, I told her, that I didn't need the money anymore, so there was no reason for her to text me. Was the best think I could do. I said to me: "If U$500 (in my country is a lot) is the price I have to pay to close this and focus 100% on me, is not that much in the long run". She texted me after that a few times, last week too for my birthday, always hopeing me the best, and trying to meet me, I always replied with just a "tanks". I'm not even mad at her, never block her ( I think is week block a person, tho I have good selfcontrol), I just deleted her number and never initiate contact.
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Offtopic: I knew the true nature of women since a very young age, I grew up with 4 sisters + my mother. I knew that a LTR wasn't for me, this was the first one I had. I had to tried and see for my self how it was to be in a LTR and trying to just be yourself. Never in my life had problems to get girls, next them, etc; since I was 14, I got used to aproach girls, and got rejected several times ( first party I went I got rejected 37 times lol), so I learned for myself how to aproach, and If I was refected, I would gave the girl a big smile, never got mad.
I want to thank you all of you guys, because, tho I knew the true nature of woman I never could figure out, why they were like that. I knew what worked and what not, but this forum give me the explanation, always thought It was something cultural, never aproach the subject from a biological level.
And the best thing this forum has in my opinion is the self improvement, I love it, and learned a lot. I always had a lack of focus and consistency, in that regard. Always just thinking in having fun, and not taking serious the self improvement.
Thank you so mutch!! And sorry for my poor english, not my native language.
unn4med 5y ago
This was awesome to read man!
What do you think made you see women's true nature at such a young age, while many other guys blindly carry on with their life and not see it?
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tekkato 5y ago
I have 4 sisters and one little brother.
My father traveled all week. I was alone in my house with my mother and my sisters. So, from an early age I was forced to deal with women. I was always at a disadvantage all the time, since it was a situation of 4 vs 1 (I should say 5 vs 1, if I consider my mother).
I saw how my sisters tried to manipulate my mother against me, to obtain advantages. At first, I used to get mad at them (I did not understand why they were so evil and lyers, being that I had not done anything to them). After a few years, I developed my frame. I just stopped paying attention to them when they tried to make me angry or manipulate my mother. I did not even talk to them, I left my house for most of the day and came back at night (I spent time with male friends, sports, school). When I was at home, I used to draw and play the guitar, and I tried to avoid any interaction with my sisters.
Then I understood why they acted like this, they were jealous of me, because I was the favorite of my mother and father, as well as of my uncles and grandparents. And unlike them I did not seek the attention of my parents and relatives, I got it naturally because unlike them, I never asked my parents for anything, I always tried to help them financially by doing my part and not asking them to buy me gifts , clothes, etc.I understood (from a very young age) the effort my parents made to give us the best they could. Maintaining six children is not easy. But to them the effort of my parents did not seem to matter. They simply believed that they "deserved" the best, without having to do anything
The other thing that helped me to develop a solid frame, was to see how my father dealt with my mother and my sisters. Since he was not there during the week, when he arrived from his work trips, my mother and sisters started asking him to do them favors, to buy them stuff, etc. My father simply ignored them, laughed and they got even madder. And then he took me (we both played basketball) to meetings and roasts with his friends. My sisters hated me for that. That's when I understood that what really bothered them was that I received attention from my father and mother without effort. Especially they resented the attention I received from my father, I understood, I was his only son at that time and the only child who did not bother him I was also forced to listen to my sisters and my mother talk to each other. They criticized all their relatives, friends, boyfriends, etc. Sometimes I heard them mocking all those people with malice. And I was surprised (I could not understand) that later, when they saw the people they criticized, they acted as if they were best friends, as if they really cared. First I expressed to my sisters and mother, how unpleasant their comments were and how false they were with people. Over time I understood that almost 100% of women are like that, and it is not because they are bad, they do not see it as something bad, they need to talk about something.
It took me years to be able to completely ignore all the crap my sisters did. Living with women who feel envious towards you is really stressful. I remember that during a period of one year, when I came back from work, one of my sisters started screaming at me while I was having lunch (all the fucking days!). Even after I helped her financially so that my parents would not find out she had lost her savings in the casino. She screamed at me in the face and I remained silent, I did not even look at her. I had a hard time leaving behind the resentment towards her for the shit she made me go through, but now I laugh and I'm grateful to her, because she forced me to develop a solid frame.
OP I hope that this has been useful for you to understand. After writing this I realize that I was forced to have a red pill mentality, just to deal with the crap of my sisters and my mother. Despite all this, I needed to try an LTR. And I tried because this girl treated me very well and we had great sex almost every day for more than two years. It was a good relationship even though it ended and for that reason I do not hold any grudge and I wish the best to her, I am grateful to her because thanks to her I found this forum, which gave me a theoretical and grounded basis for the experiences I had in my life and it allowed me to understand where I lost my frame, and also to identify BP behaviors that I had, and I am correcting them day by day. In fact I learned to forgive myself, I was always too hard on myself when I made any mistake, now I understand that it is all part of learning
P / S: Never have sex with a friend of your sister while you are a teenager. I did it when I was 16 years old (my sister's friend was 15). It was in the swimming pool of my uncles, her friend told them what happened and they had power over me for a few months, I had to do them favors, otherwise they were going to tell my mother what happened. Eventually, after a couple of months, I told them to tell my mother if they wanted to, that I did not give a fuck. Of course they did, but I was willing to go through the punishment, if that meant taking away the power they had over me. Never let a woman have power over you! Lesson learned.
unn4med 5y ago
Hey man. I am not OP but enjoyed to hear about your life very much. It seems like you learned a lot of valuable lessons through your family situation, even if they were tough.
I’m a bit confused - you said you have 5 other brothers? How come you never mentioned them? Because in that case, there’s a much stronger male presence in the house than female.
What fascinated me is how your dad wasn’t around but it seems he really taught you a lot of red pill concepts, whether directly or indirectly. My own father is very beta, I really wish I had a father that acted like yours and didn’t take shit from females.
How much do you think your father’s presence played a role in your life?
By the way, your English is great ????????
tekkato 5y ago
I expressed myself badly (thank you I will correct the previous comment). This is the composition of my family: 2 boys and 4 girls. I am the oldest and my brother is the youngest (I am 10 years older than him). My sisters are younger than me, but older than my brother. That's why I grew up surrounded by women.
I could not share much with my father, except on weekends. But he always took me to meetings with his friends, so I grew up surrounded and learning from older men. My father also has 5 brothers and one sister (she is like a man lol).
My father influenced me a lot, through his behavior. He never demanded anything from me, and he was seldom affected by the behavior of my sisters and my mother. Not all the time but most. He understands a lot about women, because he has 4 daughters!, and he also has a very high SMV in terms of looks and personality.
The lesson he taught me about women was this: "If you want to be successful with women, do not talk much about yourself, it's better to listen and ask them questions, always smile, and make sure they have fun when they are with you. do not be bad with women who are ugly, use them to practice and learn, then when you have sex with an attractive woman she will never forget you "
I must say that he was right, the most atypical sexual experiences I had with HB6 and below. It has logic, for women who are below your SMV, you are clearly the prize.
Having sexual experiences from a young age with women of lower SMV than mine helped me a lot. Women with a higher SMV, are usually equally insecure, the problem is that men tend to idealize them for their looks, but deep down they are the same as women with lower SMV, the problem is that we men behave different with them. You have to treat an HB9 in the same way you would treat an HB3
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And he also taught me this: "Women never regret what they do, no matter what they say, it's not true, they never regret"
unn4med 5y ago
Wow, awesome man! Seems like your dad made the most out of the time you had to spend together. You received a lot of valuable advice since a young age. I’m really happy for you man - we need more fathers like this in the world.
tekkato 5y ago
I think you're being too hard on your father (maybe I'm wrong, you'll know how to correct me).
I think it's okay to use the concepts of "beta" and "alpha" in this forum to differentiate those who have swallowed TRP from those who have not. But I think the most important thing when dealing with women, is not to be "beta" or "alpha" with them, but to handle expectations.
That is the main problem that men have: "What to expect from a woman?" If you have unreal expectations, you will end up disappointed. Once I read something that I never forgot: "Frustration is what emanates from the crack between expectations and reality".
In my humble opinion, the best teachings that TRP leaves you are these:
• It shows you the reality, this allows you to have real expectations
• Teaches you that you have to work hard to get what you want, there are no easy roads
unn4med 5y ago
I 100% agree that my frustration with my father is expectations not meeting reality. However, I think your father played a big role in your development of frame, red pill concepts, and exposure to reality, unlike mine, which had minimal to no involvement.
When I said my own father was beta, I mean it. He chose to never say a word to me about girls - I’m 19 years old, have never gotten any advice or even a single conversation about them. I was walking with a girl, holding hands a while ago and my dad was driving by. He said something along the lines of “I saw you today, your hand looked busy”. No further talk or anything. His passive attitude with me permeated my whole life. It might change, I hope, but not likely unless I push him to change.
I really appreciate that you’re questioning whether being labeled matters (a “beta”) - after all, it’s the actions that matter in real life. It’s good to have a different, rational point of view, which is unfortunately not common online. However, his actions really reflect a lack of a strong frame, and a complete blue pill idealization of women - I see it now, with my mother.
I think if we were to compare our two fathers you would truly understand what I mean by beta - my father was also not around too much when I was a kid, but during childhood were the only valuable memories I remember. I remember he introduced me to his friends in the army when I was a little kid, him being a doctor there. Kind of like your memories too.
But, that’s really all I remember. As I grew up he rarely ever made an effort to teach me or show me anything. I don’t want to turn this into a negative post man, I don’t like negativity. However I had to portray my reality with my father to paint an accurate picture. I bet that if you remember your teenage years, you would recall your dad giving you some advice about girls, for example. My dad, nothing. Really, nothing. Passive attitude.
I just want you to understand how great it is to have a dad with a high SMV + understanding of reality like yours. This is something to really appreciate. I spend my days working in my parent’s house, and see him lying on the couch after work watching movies every day. This is my dad.
One day he will change after I become a man myself, but until then it will be a grind.
tekkato 5y ago
The reason why my father had a good frame, was because most of the time, he did not have to deal with my mother and my sisters every day (unlike me). Currently, he loses frame easily, since he does not travel anymore and is at home during the week with my mother and two of my sisters who still live with them. In fact, I make him lose his frame sometimes just for fun, when I go to visit him. I think you're idealizing my father too much, he only has a few alfa behaviors. He is the typical "nice guy", only that it was always easy for him to get women ( looks mostly ).
Unlike him, nowadays almost nothing bothers me. And that was thanks to all the shit of my sisters and my mother. I have not resented them for many years, I have overcome that and I am sure you will overcome it with your father too.
I share with you my mother's favorite phrase: "I curse the day that God blessed me with so many daughters".
It was very pleasant to exchange experiences with you. Best wishes to you, never give up!
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unn4med 5y ago
Hey, thanks for the advice! Had some time to think about this. Thank you!
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[deleted] 5y ago
This shouldn’t even be a battle. Just ignore the request and move on. Call it even for fucks sake. What is she going to do, report it to the credit bureau?
standardmissile 5y ago
There's this autism derived fiction on TRP that all women are going to claim rape at every chance and you need to mitigate that risk with every interaction. Fortunately this is bullshit, so if someone says something stupid like 'you owe me 15 fucking dollars for that thing that time' when the ledger says they owe you...just hard next them. Appeasing asshohles is a good way to feel like a loser.
So much of TRP is about boundaries, in particluar saying no. To yourself (no junk food, nofap, no skipping gym etc) then no to others. If you can't say no to this sort of stupidity you'll never progress. Couching appeasement as pragmatism like OP suggests is hamstering.
_be_happy_ 5y ago
I agree with the post and whole idea, but in this case I would just laugh it off & next her. Why even bother to Venmo her shit? Would you give 15$ to a crying teenager only because he is loud and annoying?
niklapton 5y ago
I dont know why the others arent really agreeing with you and before the downvote wagon gets here let me tell you, you are absolutely right. Picking battles is very important. Good thing that guy paid her her 15$ and moved the fuck on.
Hyper_Sonik 5y ago
That's not the point of it all. Your must be new here. It has nothing to do with the money and everything to do with power and her attempt to relinquish it. Smh.... And NO if you paid her the $15 I can almost guarantee that would not be the last you hear from her. You just played into her frame, more bullshit on its way from this chick.
snowdenlaydying 5y ago
The correct behaviour in this instance would have been to disappear back in to the masses, never to be seen again. Pick your battles yes but know when not to take part in one.
Firebluered 5y ago
The thing is, this issue is a trivial thing to discuss it, like you said about picking up battles, etc. I wouldn't let my mind take space about such a thing.
_be_happy_ 5y ago
Nicely summed up :)
bigkids 5y ago
Goes to show how, as a man, you are only loved and adored as long as you can provide for. Not in all cases, but this shows in some women that think letting you hit the p*ssy is an investment to keep you close by and dispensing for them.
They're thought pattern: "I am giving him access to my most "valuable" asset, this "bomb" pussy" and it's sad that some think that is they're only weapon or tool to keep a man within reach.
Now, in this scenario, she can't get a refund on the pussy she gave the bloke, even though some women do, you might have heard as regretting sex, or regretting consent which leads to false rape accusations.
And obviously, you do not ask someone to return a gift that came from the heart, that $15.00 she paid was another "investment" she made in the man, an that she can ask back, so she did.
Fulp_Piction 5y ago
If it was a guy you'd tell him to fuck off, this is no different.
TheProphetPhysiquiel 5y ago
Do you talk to girls the same way you talk to guyts? Do you treat them the same?
Fulp_Piction 5y ago
Usually only when I'm gaming the party in question, not the case in either situation here.
btrpb 5y ago
Biggest load of bull I've read on TRP. Dating is dating. You don't ask for money back because it didn't work out. If someone asks you, just fucking next her and go about your business.
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
You're right, everyone knows there are no refunds in dating. Women will use any excuse to leverage her social position to demand money for her sexuality - whether it's drinks, meals, refunds or alimony. Always wanting payment just for existing, always demanding money from us.
They do it because it works. It's high time this shit stopped so they learn not to even think in those terms.
EL_Miore 5y ago
I'd rather be down $15 than have to face legal charges for some girl's fanfic writing
Blackhawk2479 5y ago
Except she’d already sent him texts saying she enjoyed the sex and wanted to hookup again. His ass was covered.
Pezotecom 5y ago
And that is exactly what OP is saying, ass covered or not, are you gonna spent all that energy cause of 15 dollars? As other guy in this thread said, he has principles, and maybe he would have. Choose your battles.
Blackhawk2479 5y ago
No, I would spend zero energy - and money - by ignoring her and getting on with my business.
As I said in one of my other comments, it’s not about battles in this example.
Pezotecom 5y ago
But again, that is the point.
Because to be honest, all the story seemed pretty beta to me. So that was a beta choosing his battles with the weapons he had.
I wouldn't have given her the 15 bucks either. You get what I'm saying?
uppertiernormiecel 5y ago
Why is this sub so inactive? There are other subs who are just as active as they were before they got quarantined.
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TheBadGoy 5y ago
This only works on certain cases but it's not a good mentality to have. "Give someone Palestine and they'll take The Golan Heights"
mineralranch 5y ago
https://youtu.be/78-4RobJQ0Y?t=25
grumpieroldman 5y ago
Saying "No" is zero effort.
arythmetic 5y ago
Saying "no" is fodder. Not saying anything is zero effort.
g0dfather93 5y ago
Spoken like a man who's been in a relationship at least an year or longer.
The_Lightskin_Wonder 5y ago
I thought op was bringing up a good point, but I think the example is a bad and is a battle he shouldve fought.
I'm a veteran and currently in my 5th year of my apprenticeship. I wouldn't be where I'm at now if I tried to make everything a power struggle. your general objective is to win the war. understand what the war is for and decide your battles from there, in the example given the war was based on spite and meaningless feelings. there was nothing to lose by winning, and nothing worth sacrifice ; yet he sacrificed his money in order to win. the objective was to leave her in order to find a new partner, and at no risk he couldve blocked her number and moved forward.
what are you fighting for? are you willing to let men die for this cause? can the cause be obtained in a more efficient manner?
48 laws of power have shown me how much it means to your superiors if you allow them to feel in control. and how much control you have over them when they invest their decision in your opinion. as an apprentice and trainee I've become familiar with the role of puppet mastery, and simply allowing people to think I'm not a threat until I truly can be.
Learn to smile , it psychologically makes you feel happy and puts you in a better state of mind, in which to decipher worthy engagements from the unworthy.
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The_Lightskin_Wonder 5y ago
so you wouldn't stop to pick up 15 dollars of the ground? Im sorry but not everyone is rich, I wouldn't just hand out 15 bucks because someone isn't happy. Second, it takes more effort to obtain the money and give it to the person then to just say no. He's losing out on money, it's not just 15 bucks, in my opinion that's a lot. I've been jobless with nothing to my name, 15 dollars can get you by another day. It was a silly decision, and when someone is demanding you pay them for time you were not satisfied with, you tell them "no"; that's the simplest answer, and the most logical.
and it would've taken me no time to come to that conclusion. just because we are discussing the reasons why he should or shouldn't on here, doesn't mean it would take me that long in a real situation. I mean it's literally making my head explode that there are people, thinking this is how you should handle a situation like this. If you're argument is about potential problems in the future, well if she's crazy enough to ask for money she's crazy enough to keep doing it now that you let her know you are willing to pay to cut ties with her.
My whole point is that there are battles you should pick, but this isn't even a battle this is nonsense.
Blackhawk2479 5y ago
It’s not about battles, in his case he should’ve just ignored her.
Same result but he’s not down $15 too.
arythmetic 5y ago
Possibly. I'd pay more than that to shut someone up however.
strikethrough123 5y ago
Indeed. I had to pay $30 once to shut some one up.
Blackhawk2479 5y ago
I wouldn’t care enough to want to.
arythmetic 5y ago
Doesn't change what's effective.
JuliusTestvola 5y ago
You could get her out of her life by blocking her phone number. thats free.
Sluskarn 5y ago
How about don't give her that money, next her and move on with your life?
g0dfather93 5y ago
IDK, I feel what this guy did is way more denigrating than nexting/ghosting. Someone literally paid her to go away from their life. It's emotionally scarring shit, and best part is that she asked for it. This is next level MaliciousCompliance stuff.
The-Red-Vagabond 5y ago
The fact he gave her the money tells me she's just gonna keep doing what she was doing, because in the end, she got what she wanted.
TheProphetPhysiquiel 5y ago
Who gives a fuck. She's not your problem anymore and she doesn't have anything that she can hamster over you.
g0dfather93 5y ago
If at age 35+ $15 payback for a sandwich is "getting what you want" then there are much bigger problems here, frankly.
The-Red-Vagabond 5y ago
You're not wrong even though her going out of her way to get 15 dollars back wasn't my point, my point was that if this was all it took for her to get payed back for something as abysmal as this then she learned nothing and will keep doing it to other people no matter what, for bigger or lesser things.
OP gave her the satisfaction of getting her way thus, giving her the frame.
g0dfather93 5y ago
Which is fine, once again, as the dude who did this is under no obligation to teach her a lesson. Eliminating the risk of getting a drunk call from an immature middle-age woman because you "swindled her out of $15" is totally worth $15.
Did she get satisfaction? Maybe. The whole point is that that isn't the point. Dude did the easiest thing for himself giving exactly the amount of thought to her reaction as she deserves - zero.
gixxerthouguy 5y ago
She might do - not worth the effort for 15usd.
DeadliftRx 5y ago
She doesn't see it that way. That guy just reinforced awful behavior in this woman. He failed to educate as a proper leader would.
TRP is not a tool. Similar to Islam, TRP is a complete mindset.
g0dfather93 5y ago
Easy there, cowboy.
Eh, what? Leader? This was a Tinder match, not a recruitment for the Marines. Jeez.
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DeadliftRx 5y ago
What the hell is happening here? A year ago no one here would have suggested you bend to the will of a woman, let alone a post-wall, washed-woman.
All Women Are Like That. Tinder. LTR. That wife. Prostitutes. That rando you eye'd up and down in the store. All the same.
In a revolution, you would be put down for not being dedicated to the cause. You are one foot in because it benefits you, but those with two feet in recognize you as just another sheep amongst wolves.
g0dfather93 5y ago
Well then that doesn't leave much room for arguments, does it?
Anyway, I'll make a last-ditch attempt here; him paying $15 is not him bending to her will. He didn't give her the money because she wanted it, he gave her the money to make her shut the fuck up and go away. If she wanted that, that's coincidental. But reading that post, her asking for $15 was not about the money, she was grasping at anything to draw him into a bitchfight, which he avoided with a $15 fee. An hour's wage, even if he's a handyman. The bitchfight would have definitely eaten more than an hour. Thus, he did what's best for himself.
AreOut 5y ago
and get labelled as rapist when you apply for supreme court judge
Sluskarn 5y ago
Good thing you got confirmation of consent after sex in text or other forms and saved it in case, as you should be doing already.
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Quaternionz 5y ago
You’re an unnecessary whataboutism man.