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For those of you joining us, the original appeal can be read here

It has been a week and we have not heard from the admin in this time. Nothing to suggest it's being considered, or that it's been rejected. Absolute radio silence.

We have contacted the admin once again for an update. We will keep you all apprised.

The question here is- whether or not they accept our appeal (they may not) it seems strange that they are not even honoring the appeals process which they themselves offered.

https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/9jf8nh/revamping_the_quarantine_function/

Appealing a Quarantine

To be removed from quarantine, subreddit moderators may present an appeal here.

Does this mean that Reddit admin are lying? Do they intend to honor the very system they announced only a week or so ago?

Until they break their silence, we must assume they were lying.

Until they break their silence, we must assume that their community management team is woefully unprepared to manage such a large community. They do not know how to apply policy fairly and consistently.

Reddit Admin, you have an opportunity to prove this wrong. Address the points of our appeal.

At this point, I think this failure of the Reddit Admin concerns not only the edgy subs such as ours, but should concern every user, moderator, and subreddit on this site.

[-] InformalCriticism 205 Points 6 months ago

My thinking is they would be perfectly comfortable maintaining a quarantine indefinitely to signal to the Reddit community that they don't tolerate unpopular opinions.

[-] dogenes09 127 Points 6 months ago

That's actually the best outcome in every respect. People are drawn to the forbidden, especially when it is still accessible.

[-] U-94 27 Points 6 months ago

The ultimate forbidden knowledge: believing in yourself

[-] Beerspaz12 67 Points 6 months ago

I am a self professed liberal, I am usually to the left of everyone.

I have seen some shit on here that is bad but it gets taken down and if you read the comments it usually acts as a counter balance to the toxic post.

I don't see how a self improvement sub should be banned.

[-] LandoChronus 39 Points 6 months ago

Because they don't see this as self improvement. They see it as revolution against their ideals.

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[-] g0dfather93 30 Points 6 months ago

if you read the comments it usually acts as a counter balance to the toxic post.

Exactly, TRP is one of the most versatile subs, many posts irk you, make you uncomfortable, throw you into a zone of unfamiliarity - on a routine basis. Why? Because, it's not an echo chamber (like most of the internet). Here you have Chads and Betas and Alphas from all races, financial backgrounds, with views spanning the entire spectrum of ideology from gender equality to "women are born to be home-makers", from "you need to take control of your life" to "you need to control of your wife'. It has your classy white-collar womanizer and the almost incel right-winger, interacting anonymously. And you know what? I love it. Comments almost always call out on bullshit, and almost half the posts have top quality comments worthy of being posts themselves. While TRP as a community has the most content I disagree with, it is definitely the community that makes me think and question and evolve my views the most.

[-] Atheist_Utopia 4 Points 6 months ago

Very well said

[-] Whisper 19 Points 6 months ago

I am a self professed liberal

Still haven't seen the writing on the wall, eh?

It doesn't matter what your political beliefs in principle are. They want you dead or enslaved. The only question is when you are going to stop being their useful idiot.

[-] maximumutility 12 Points 6 months ago

I’m curious- what writing on the wall?

also ‘dead or enslaved’ sounds like pretty severe hyperbole, but what are you specifically referring to by that?

[-] Whisper 17 Points 6 months ago

It does sound that way. Tends to make people's ears perk up a bit. But in order to make it sound sane and proportional, you have to experiment with viewing things in a slightly different way.

Most leftist political agendas are sold to voters as "using government action to solve X problem". Whatever X might be. And the rhetoric mostly focuses on the severity and urgency of the problem.

Well, instead, let's set aside the problems for a moment, and look at the solution. It's always pretty much the same thing... the state confiscates resources from some people, and spends them on someone else. We call this "socialism". And there can be a little of it, or a lot, but that's how it works.

So leftism is basically the application of the socialist model to a bunch of different problems.

Well, let's suppose that instead of asking "will it work?", or "should we do it?" (the typical questions), we instead ask a different question:

Which problems?

Or, more specifically...

Whose problems?

Because if you are always the person donating the resources, and never the person who receives them, then, for you, socialism is nothing but slavery with extra steps. And if you resist, well... the basis of socialism is compulsion. They don't go 'round to your house and ask nicely for a donation, and then fuck off if you say no. They take it. By force. And they're eventually going to shoot you if you keep resisting.

If we can imagine a hypothetical set of people who are never the recipient of socialist wealth redistribution, only the source, then, yes, socialists want these people enslaved or dead.

But does this hypothetical group of people exist? If so, who are they?

Well, if you read TRP, the answer is "probably you". I trust I need not explain my reasoning behind that one.

So, it doesn't really matter whether you think socialism can work, or whether you think some of the proposed projects are worthy. (If you think they are, don't vote: donate.) What matters is what these people are going to do to you if you give them power.

Do you feel lucky?

[-] GSstreetfighter 11 Points 6 months ago

I was born in the U.S.A. , and lived there 44 years.

Now that I'm in Australia (11 years) , I am glad to pay my taxes so that I am not confronted by indigents every time I go to the 7-11.

It heartens me to see any disabled person that needs a mobility scooter will get one, and be that much more self-reliant and independent.

Don't even get me started on the free healthcare.

I am smart, thin, and rich, and I don't feel sorry for anybody here 'cause I pay my damn taxes.

[-] Whisper 4 Points 6 months ago

I'm glad your life is going well.

However, I'm not going to give you any credit for being charitable if you aren't doing it voluntarily with your own resources.

The basic unit of "fucks given" is the dollar.

[-] NormalAndy 3 Points 6 months ago

On the other side of the coin, your taxes also go to pay for an army- and no matter how Redpill you are, it is organised strength in numbers that stops Genghis Kahn from turning up to ruin the party every generation or so.

We all pay for social protection in some shape or form, local gangster, social safety net, healthcare, insurance, education for the kids because it buys us some time and space to focus on our specialist activities rather than spreading ourselves too thin- that's the whole point of it and a real benefit of human society (imo).

If you choose to not focus on your own interests during that time then you should either go after a rebate(!) or question your motives as you may well have been brainwashed.

Really I have no problem paying people to do the things that take up too much of my time or things I cannot do. Accepting the consequences of it not being done just the way I want it is a part of that and also my responsibility.

[-] FieldLine 1 Point 6 months ago

The basic unit of "fucks given" is the dollar.

Can't be.

According to the results of my GoFundMe, this would mean that no one gives a fuck about my sex transition, even though it's obviously something that is super important by every objective measure and should be on everyone's mind at all times.

And we all know that the financiers with big salaries don't provide any real value to society, that money should I want that money to go to important causes like subsidized rent and free healthcare.

[-] Whisper 3 Points 6 months ago

Heh.

Medicare alone screwed up the US healthcare system so badly that now the non-player characters are demanding more socialism to fix it.

[-] NormalAndy 4 Points 6 months ago

I think it's fair to say that US healthcare wasn't exactly the envy of the first, second or third world even before the medicare socialists got their hands on it.

Big Pharma - has sucked a great deal of money out from both consumers and taxes compared to their initial investment. There's no doubt it's a racket and government would be better off spending their time addressing this in order to fix the problem rather than feeding the beast.

[-] Chaddeus_Rex -2 Point 6 months ago

You sound like you enjoy paying taxes.

That is exactly the problem to which /u/Whisper refers

[-] chrisname 7 Points 6 months ago

A socialist would argue that your subset of people who contribute to society without profiting from it doesn't exist. Even the richest of the rich depend upon infrastructure like roads and utility supplies which are regulated, if not directly owned, by the state. Profiting from that - e.g. using the roads for your business's logistics - without contribution is essentially stealing. There are solutions to these problems - privatising everything for example - but these have their own problems (corporations gain power and become another state).

[-] Whisper 7 Points 6 months ago

Relying upon "muh roads" as an argument for socialism is so overplayed it's an ancap meme.

Were there roads before there were income taxes? What percentage of US state and federal budgets does road work constitute? Do socialists tax enough to build roads, and then stop?

[-] chrisname 2 Points 6 months ago

I'm not saying the state is the only way to have roads (which is the meme argument you're talking about), I'm saying that we do currently have roads (and other infrastructure) owned by the state, and you pay tax to use and profit from them, because everybody who lives or does business in a country profits from the existence and maintenance of those roads (as well as the keeping of public order, utilities, hospitals and education which increase the value of employees (sick and dumb people aren't productive)). Whether taxation is theft or whether infrastructure should be privately owned and managed is a different discussion, not the one I was trying to have.

Personally, while I have some sympathy for anarchocapitalism, I think it would be pointless and overcomplicated: overcomplicated because you would have to pay about million different subscriptions for every service you need, and pointless because this would be functionally the same as tax (especially when a company emerges whose business model is to collect all the subscriptions and enforce payment). Ostensibly you would have the choice to pay or not to pay for each service, but when there's one company which provides water to your entire area, that's not much of a choice. I don't buy that a new company would magically appear because you need to build pipes, the land belongs to someone, and there is only so much space for water pipes: the barrier for entry is high making competition difficult.

I also don't understand how things like law enforcement and the military would work: would I have to pay a subscription? If I get robbed but I don't have robbery coverage, do I still get my stuff back? Who investigates my murder if I have no friends or family to pay for it? Maybe we could set up local funds for these things, but that begins to sound like a local government. Although decentralising the state sounds tasty to me.

Personally I'm in favour of refining the western democratic system incrementally as we've been doing for centuries. I'm a software engineer and there's a phenomenon that occurs when you try to replace a functioning but cruddy legacy system with a new system that replicates all the functionality of the old system but with a better design. Inevitably what happens is you end up replicating all of the bugs that you spent years fixing in the old system, except now you can't remember how you fixed them, and you also end up introducing a lot of new bugs. It's often still worth doing in software because you can keep the old system running while you sort out the old one, but that doesn't work with statecraft. It's people's lives rather than just code and data.

[-] Whisper 3 Points 6 months ago

a different discussion, not the one I was trying to have.

You're correct that we have wandered far afield.

The original point is that whether or not you think socialism might someday work (if we try enough times, and kill enough people), the current crop of socialists want anyone who reads TRP, or anyone resembling such a person, dead, enslaved, or otherwise beaten into submission... so even if you're left-leaning in abstract political ideals, you still can't support the modern left. This is simple self-preservation.

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[-] HumanSockPuppet 4 Points 6 months ago

A socialist would argue that your subset of people who contribute to society without profiting from it doesn't exist.

Of course such a thing doesn't exist. It's a straw man.

Society is a social contract. We all agree to a set of general injunctions (I won't kill, I won't steal, I won't break my contractual promises, etc.) and benefit from not having those things done to us.

There are solutions to these problems - privatising everything for example - but these have their own problems (corporations gain power and become another state).

Great telecoms and information companies like Google or Bell cannot become government-influencing powerhouses without a government on which to act. Reducing the power and influence of government reduces the incentive to engage in meddling political activism, forcing those companies to return to the market to seek their profits.

And companies are beholden to consumers in the marketplace because, without government intervention, these companies have no special protections, and because we consumers can simply take our money elsewhere if they displease us.

[-] redpill77 2 Points 6 months ago

I'm trying to save this comment on http://archive.is but it keeps getting stuck on the quarantine wall. Does anyone know how to archive despite the quarantine?

[-] odin1111 2 Points 6 months ago

maximumutility

I noticed that this guy: maximumutility

Hasnt responded to you.

It seems like he never intended to really want to know what you meant in the first place.

Or your answer was so good that he couldn't work to discredit it. (which is what he was gunning for.)

[-] Beerspaz12 2 Points 6 months ago

Because if you are always the person donating the resources, and never the person who receives them, then, for you, socialism is nothing but slavery with extra steps.

If we can imagine a hypothetical set of people who are never the recipient of socialist wealth redistribution, only the source, then, yes, socialists want these people enslaved or dead.

Only the weak can't give. I enjoy living in a society where roads are maintained and schools are well funded and other such benefits. I cannot argue that it is perfect but I can make a happy and healthy living donating. If you want to put your money where your mouth is, go live on an unclaimed island and name it whisperland and have at.

Also, you are quite literally enjoying an unintended benefit of government spending in the internet. If you live in a developed country then you are a recipient of the wealth distribution no matter what.

[-] Incel9876 5 Points 6 months ago

I cannot argue that it is perfect but I can make a happy and healthy living donating.

Don't conflate taxation with donation, nor welfare with charity. As another Leftist. GSstreetfighter, in this thread said:

"I am smart, thin, and rich, and I don't feel sorry for anybody here 'cause I pay my damn taxes."

Isn't that lovely, so here's an Aussie believing paying taxes and virtue signaling absolves from the virtue of charity, just like a modern Mr. Scrooge, thus no sympathy and no aid to all the millions of poor whose ranks only ever seem to swell and become generational when given welfare.

[-] Beerspaz12 1 Point 6 months ago

You're still using public resources to argue me almost like you're proving my point.

[-] Whisper 3 Points 6 months ago

Only the weak can't give.

What, am I supposed to fall all over myself now trying to prove I'm "stronk"?

My god, it's like "baby's first verbal fencing lesson" in here. If you're gonna shit test me, at least shave your legs and put on a skirt.

Son, if you wanna give, give. No one is stopping you. It's your money. Prove to yourself how strong you are.

Giving other people's money proves nothing. Any asshole can vote for more cake.

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[-] CrazyHorseInvincible 2 Points 6 months ago

If you don't wanna get bit, don't poke the animal with a stick. Shoulda stuck to the issues.

And GTFO with your weakass report button whining. You got what you deserved.

2 weeks timeout.

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[-] odin1111 3 Points 6 months ago

To answer your question of "What writing on the wall"

Read the book "The Gulag Archipellago" by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn,

Its been made popular recently by someone who I shall not name on this sub(I dont like the guy anyway but that book is solid) THEN look IN DETAIL as to what happened during MAO's cultural revolution, THEN look into the western bankers who financed. supported, and "advised" (read: gave orders to)

THEN look into the communist revolutions of Lenin, and what he did, then look into Stalin and what he did, THEN look into PolPot and what he did, THEN see if you can find any similarities between what they did and how they came to power and the DETAILS of what led up to it, and what's happening now.

Also you need to look at the republicans under he george w bush era and that whole warmongering thing, look at how complicit the media was there, look into Ron Paul and how complicit the media has been doing certain things there.

Take a deep look at 2008, Look into Early Max Keiser (around 2004-2011)

The look into the history of the federal reserve bank of the united states. Then see if you can find something in common that every country in the world has. . .and the ones that dont...or didnt...what happened to them.

THEN look into what'S been going on in Europe, take a trip down memory lane and remember the whole thing with Greece.

It should really all come together for form a more cohesive picture.

Im not sure youll be up to the task though, most people who have a tone like yours;

["I’m curious- what writing on the wall?

also ‘dead or enslaved’ sounds like pretty severe hyperbole, but what are you specifically referring to by that?"]

Obviously havent been paying attention to much in the past 20 years, and most likely wont put in the work to learn as to wtf is going on(which is important as you can see what is probably going to happen in the near future and how to prepare for it depending on your situation)

But yeah, that tone screams to me passive aggressively: "lah lah lah i dont really wanna hear it."

You actually expect it to be some one sentence answer that you can refute immediately, but the real answer is in the history that you failed to REALLY pay attention to in school(not really your fault, most schools glossed over the important parts, or gave you a teacher that didnt give a shit anyway)

Basically You should really be doing your own research, Ive given you a lot of things along the path to help you along the way, but you really gotta just put in the work. Could I "summerize" all that and put it into a cure package that you can digest?

Actually I can.

Will I?

No.

Why?

when someone does that, instead of showing them the path theyll embark on themselves, it cheapens it SO MUCH that the person in question fails to learn anything, fails to challenge their own beliefs, they just use their own beliefs to instantly shut it down without giving it a second thought.
Which is precisely why we're in this mess in the first place.

So its up to you, learn or not. The path is out there. If you actually want to look. (but I dont think you do)

[-] womans_algorithm 1 Point 6 months ago

It doesn't matter your political belief, they want you "dead or enslaved" to their ideology

[-] Godskook 1 Point 6 months ago

I am a self professed liberal

A Sommers/Sargon-Liberal, an American-Liberal or a Lockean-Liberal? Cause.....unless you're referring to American-Liberals, "I am usually to the left of everyone" isn't true, and if you -are-, you're basically claiming to hold the same beliefs as Spez, which....makes me question the rest of your post.

[-] 666Evo 43 Points 6 months ago

Exactly what I was thinking as well.
We already know they were lying.
It's pure virtue signalling.

I don't expect they will ever respond, or if they do, it will be a milquetoast "explanation" of how we're still breaking some unwritten rule and the quarantine will remain.

[-] Metalgear222 18 Points 6 months ago

Exactly.

“We’re not silencing other opinions! Look at this handy appeal process we’ve added! We care about your sub and want to give you a fair shot!

Actually, we just want to keep our reputation solid so that we’re not called out by the majority of redditors ‘cause that would be bad for business. Fuck you and your sub of 300k+ subscribers. Pointing out the truth to help guys that love women to be successful in life and relationships is misogynistic.”

I can’t help but picture these reddit admins... it’s like George Carlin said in his opening statement at Carnegie Hall;

“Why.. why... why are the people that are anti abortion the kind of people you wouldn’t want to fuck in the first place?”

Why are these unfuckable admins weighing in on something they have absolutely no idea about.

[-] Whisper 13 Points 6 months ago

That is indeed their plan. Our plan is to reveal that this what is in fact going on.

The whole process is a sham, we know it, we're fine with it, quarantine hurts us not at all. We just want to expose them for the incompetent liars they are.

[-] CainPrice 12 Points 6 months ago

That's exactly the point of the quarantine option for Reddit.

Quarantine is Reddit's tool for content that is not illegal or specifically in violation of their content policy, but that average Reddit users may find shocking or offensive. By definition, that's a subjective decision. Who's average? And what's shocking or offensive? Doesn't matter. If Reddit subjectively thinks an average user might find The Red Pill shocking or offensive, but recognizes that TRP's content is not illegal or in violation of Reddit's content policy, quarantine is the appropriate option.

The appeal process doesn't exist to debate whether the quarantine is correct. Quarantine is, by definition and by design, a subjective decision made if the administration thinks an average person would find the non-illegal content shocking or offensive. "Nuh uh. You're wrong" isn't an appropriate appeal. They've already made their subjective decision.

Per their own guidelines, the appeal is something you submit, a month later, detailing all of the changes you've made in rules, moderation, and content for the past month and how, as a result, your content is no longer shocking or offensive.

"You're wrong. We disagree. We're not changing anything. And we demand you prove to us why you're not wrong" isn't an appeal. It's just internet blustering that's going to be ignored.

But the whole point of this "appeal" isn't to get the quarantine removed anyway. The big guys at TRP are just hoping to draw attention from around the internet to the fact that the Reddit administration is emotional, reactionary, partisan, and biased. Unfortunately, nobody on the internet gives a damn about the Reddit administration being biased. People, other than TRP's readers and the fringe manosphere contingent, aren't paying attention to this issue and aren't judging Reddit for it. Nobody on the internet is going to rally against Reddit over censorship or unfairness. People don't care about that shit.

Even if Reddit is exposed, hands down, to be a sexist, anti-male, anti-conservative, biased, subjectively-run organization of retards, nobody is going to care. No significant number of people are following this issue, and even if the whole world was following it, nobody would care whether Reddit is biased, arbitrary, and badly run or not.

[-] tempolaca 5 Points 6 months ago

unpopular opinions.

The blue pill sub has less than 50k users, compared to more than 300k of this one. Who is unpopular?

[-] Luckyluke23 3 Points 6 months ago

this is what i think i happening too. I'm just surprised it wasn't sooner.

[-] [deleted] 2 Points 6 months ago

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[-] InformalCriticism 1 Point 6 months ago

You're right, it's detrimental to the sub in some other ways, but it's hard to know what effect that will have long term. I've heard some people saying the posts and quality has improved.

[-] X-Trem0 1 Point 6 months ago

I think that the quality of posts here raised since the quarantine started. Or at least that's what I think...

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[-] littleblacktruck 61 Points 6 months ago

It's fine. No need to appeal. The Quarantine is working to our advantage. It's reducing the number of trolls and spergs. I've noticed an uptick in quality of posts and comments. Thanks Reddit. LMAO

[-] redpillschool 33 Points 6 months ago

It's reducing the number of trolls and spergs. I've noticed an uptick in quality of posts and comments.

It is reducing the number.. but we have had a serious influx of trolls since the quarantine happened. Our modmail is clogged with "why are you private" requests, and it's been much harder on the mods side to coordinate.

[-] nmagod 5 Points 6 months ago

Surely there's a tool in the API somewhere to, you know

have that stuff automatically forwarded to the admins

[-] fuck_pump_chill 6 Points 6 months ago

The quarantine sucks because I cannot access TRP via Reddit Mobile.

[-] HeIlo_World 7 Points 6 months ago

If you use the same account, what worked for me was logging in on my pc and accessing TRP, I can now use it on mobile

[-] Bolsh- 58 Points 6 months ago

Considering it's been a week since the original appeal, admins are either all sitting on their thumbs doing nothing or frantically searching for another Michael Kimmel blog to refute you with. I'm not getting my hopes up.

[-] redpill77 35 Points 6 months ago

Yeah, they're busy unplugging. They figured they would easily find something to refute our ideas and the more they work on that, the more they're starting to see red.

[-] ahackercalled4chan 14 Points 6 months ago

oh man! how glorious the poetic justice would be if that is the case!

[-] novalentineforyou 30 Points 6 months ago

This is USSR-style censorship.

[-] _A_L_3_X_ 8 Points 6 months ago

were arent going to be send to gulags. just regular ol' censorship.

[-] sigma272 5 Points 6 months ago

gulags

Nah mate, just regular prison. In a lot of countries wrongthink is already punishable by prison time, and hate speech laws are becoming more draconian all over the world.

[-] _A_L_3_X_ 1 Point 6 months ago

a prison is still not as bad as a gulag.

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[-] RedPillCoach 3 Points 6 months ago

You are wrong. This is exactly where it is headed. The path is well known and we have seen it many times from Salem, to day care sex abuse hysteria to me too it is all the same. Silence your opponents and if they keep talking arrest them and burn them at the stake. Learn history before you repeat it. All of this has happened before and it will happen again.

[-] DancesWithPugs 26 Points 6 months ago

Liars pretending to take the high road. Bad faith. It was a setup from the beginning.

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[-] empatheticapathetic 17 Points 6 months ago

They’ll ignore everything you said and wait for some good opportunity to prove said “misogyny”.

[-] xddm2653 16 Points 6 months ago

"A week old user posted on your subreddit how women are the root of all evil. It took ten minutes before his comment was removed. Checkmate"

[-] TheTrenTrannyTrain 3 Points 6 months ago

Sounds like the same brigading tactic used on other conservative subs.

[-] AnonymousTSCM 16 Points 6 months ago

I wouldn't expect for them to repeal this any time soon. Even if they did look at it I would assume that it would take them many months before they would even do anything. Especially with the holidays around the corner. My guess would be sometime around February, or March. Still maybe Reddit will surprise us?

[-] CainPrice 13 Points 6 months ago

It's fun to imagine that the Reddit administration is reading this and squirming, but they're really not.

The internet is not closely following the quarantine of The Red Pill. Outside of TRP's readers (and TRP's detractors who are happy that it's been quarantined), nobody gives a shit about this issue.

Nobody cares that Reddit arbitrarily enforces vague policies or whether Reddit does or doesn't honor some kind of appeals process they say they have. People outside of TRP and its detractors don't give a shit.

Normal Reddit users posting in normal, non-controversial subreddits don't care. Nobody on the internet is going to rally behind TRP over this issue. TRP users will piss and moan in threads like this. TRP's detractors will laugh at TRP. Nobody else cares.

[-] redpillschool 5 Points 6 months ago

Nobody cares that Reddit arbitrarily enforces vague policies or whether Reddit does or doesn't honor some kind of appeals process they say they have. People outside of TRP and its detractors don't give a shit.

Normal Reddit users posting in normal, non-controversial subreddits don't care. Nobody on the internet is going to rally behind TRP over this issue. TRP users will piss and moan in threads like this. TRP's detractors will laugh at TRP. Nobody else cares.

I disagree. People were outraged when fatpeoplehate was removed. Not because they supported hating fat people, but because they didn't like the precedent it set.

[-] CainPrice 1 Point 6 months ago

I think the cross-section of people who seem to care about things like that is very greatly magnified and over-exaggerated when viewing it form inside of the manosphere. The overwhelming majority of the internet, and the overwhelming majority of Reddit, didn't really care.

As much as we try to be clear-headed at The Red Pill, we're still in a bubble of like-minded people, so it's easy to imagine that a lot of people are like us and our issues are actually significant issues to others, when they're really not. It's the same feeling a typical fat feminist got when she lives in San Francisco, never interacts with anybody outside of her bubble, and genuinely thinks that the majority of the country is just like her. Then she woke up to Trump being president.

We're in the manosphere bubble and spend a lot of time on the internet, so our little slice of the world seems bigger to us than it is. Most people in the world don't give a shit about Reddit or internet censorship. Even other Reddit users.

[-] redpillschool 3 Points 6 months ago

I agree the number isn't huge, but I think two things are true:

  1. It's bigger than you think. There are a lot of silent onlookers who are forming opinions. Just RP alone was getting over 200 new subs daily.

  2. The number won't get smaller, no matter how slow the growth.
[-] CainPrice 2 Points 6 months ago

What's the end game?

Let's say that Reddit completely ignores this entire process. Three months go by. You've written 12 posts, one per week, and made every post as public as possible. You've defamed Reddit publicly. You have conclusively proven that Reddit is anti-male, anti-conservative, and arbitrarily censors unpopular viewpoints, and won't even give the dignity of a response to a 300k-strong segment of its user base.

What happens then, when the initial week or two of griping dies off, people continue to use Reddit, the internet marches on, nobody cares that much, people in a few liberal subreddits laugh and rejoice about the blow to the manosphere, most other subreddits don't even know what's going on or don't care, and The Red Pill goes on, business as usual, within the quarantine?

[-] redpillschool 2 Points 6 months ago

I'll answer your question with more questions:

What's the end game with collecting our field reports?

What's the end game for acknowledging censorship on other platforms against men?

What's the end game for collectively understanding feminism and how it exploits men?

What's the end game with collectively understanding our society and culture?

[-] CainPrice 1 Point 6 months ago

Fair points. What happens to The Red Pill subreddit can definitely open a few guys' eyes to what's really going on in the world. How things really are. The demonstration of how little we matter to the world at large might do some of the guys here a world of good.

[-] halfback910 13 Points 6 months ago

I think appeals to reason won't get very far with people who make decisions based on emotion.

I feel totally under threat. PhysicalRemoval was (ironically) Physically Removed. I'm sure Anarcho_Capitalism is not far down the list after that. This has been quarantined. GoldAndBlack may be able to hold out slightly longer because they police who can post there.

This is just ridiculous.

[-] spookgangbanger 10 Points 6 months ago

Bunch of piddling fools who can't manage a fuckin' website. Imagine the havoc these censorious muppets would wreak if they attained to real world power.

God damn them all. It's like little kids going on a power-trip when they get appointed leader of a group. Overgrown, officious control freaks - the lot of them....

[-] Imperator_Red 19 Points 6 months ago

Imagine the havoc these censorious muppets would wreak if they attained to real world power.

Dude... they and their allies do have real world power. They control what we see on the internet. They control what you can say at work. They control the government bureaucracy. They control academia completely.

[-] BoilingBleach 2 Points 6 months ago

I'm in academia, this is mostly true but there is plenty of room for real talk behind closed doors, you'd be impressed how many proffesors are decently red pilled in private.

We will always have common sense on our side.

[-] sigma272 1 Point 6 months ago

This is why I consider "keep your head down, bang bitches, and enjoy the decline" complete bullshit. That's all great until you get falsely accused of rape and there's no one to stand with you because law of power 38 bro. Meanwhile, the radical left consolidates power and systematically engulfs institutions by working as a unified collective.

[-] ImshortandIhateit 2 Points 6 months ago

Correct me if I'm wrong but can't you avoid #metoo if you just give a fake name? What, will the woman call the police and describe your facial characteristics? Like, "oh yeah,this man had blue eyes, dark hair, a big nose and a round face".

[-] Shadowthrice 9 Points 6 months ago

Admins are dishonest and believe in suppression of free speech. They have already "othered" you due to your badthink.

Appealing assumes they have some sense of decency and can be made to see reason. This is futile.

[-] FleetingWish 7 Points 6 months ago

I think you're forgetting that they didn't promise to read or respond to the appeals. Perhaps the whole point is to make you feel like you've been heard without actually doing anything. It's a placebo button.

Or maybe they will read them, but have no intention of opening a dialog. Perhaps they will only respond to users who have presented terms that they will agree with.

[-] cafeitalia 6 Points 6 months ago

The appeal was too long, not direct to the point, very repetitive and not strong. Think of this as arguing your case in front of the supreme court. They will not tolerate long bs conversation. They will want you to be short and direct with reference of the law and never repeat the same thought with different wording. A proper format is always: The accusation is: Facts are 1 2 3 As the facts prove that accusation is not valid the punishment should not be concluded. End of appeal.

[-] NotTuringBot 2 Points 6 months ago

This is what I tried to say

[-] redpillschool 1 Point 6 months ago

Sure, they are welcome to tell us it's rejected based on length.

[-] civilization_failed 6 Points 6 months ago

Seriously. Who gives a shit about this cuck website. The sooner subs like these are gone, the sooner they'll be completely overrun by soy-boy liberals and misanthropic feminists to the point where their user-base will start to dwindle.

We shouldn't be dignifying it with our presence anyway. Onward and upward.

[-] deltron80 5 Points 6 months ago

It's sad that the one place I found that finally explained everything I wondered all my life is considered so offensive and evil that it needs to be censored and banned. Women already know all this information. They have hidden it from us our whole lives and they want to keep it hidden. We can't even have our own page on reddit where we're allowed to talk because it threatens their control. I still remember where I was when I found this sub back in 2013 when it was at like 1500 subs and it really helped me on my journey to understanding the world. Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks.

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[-] victor_knight 4 Points 6 months ago

I'm really wondering what the "moral trigger" in this case was. For example, with Alex Jones it was basically the accusation of claiming a child's death (Sandy Hook) was staged. That basically gave all the giant tech companies a moral trigger/license to ban him across the board. It didn't matter if he saved the Pope after that. No appeals, nothing. You insult the memory a dead child, you're GONE. So what was the trigger here? Anyone have any idea what set them off?

[-] karmalizing 1 Point 6 months ago

It was making fun of Serena Williams.

[-] victor_knight 1 Point 6 months ago

That just might have been the trigger.

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[-] primo_pastafarian 3 Points 6 months ago

I just noticed one of the side-effects of being quarantined:

The sidebar no longer shows how many subscribers there are for the subreddit, or how many people are browsing right now.

This seems to be in line with a quarantine not truly being a quarantine, but an attempt to silence and delete us. They don't want people to know how many of us there are.

This is similar to how the quarantine hides posts via the main page and multireddits, so that people may be entirely unaware of the quarantine unless they specifically and directly visit this subreddit.

The whole thing seems very underhanded and shady to me.

[-] vverons 3 Points 6 months ago

This won’t get repealed since it would make them look bad. A major part of being a liberal company is how you appear to others with virtue signaling.

Bookmark trp.red and expect the worst.

[-] LifeIsAWar 3 Points 6 months ago

So ludicrous that even though I'm subscribed it doesnt show and I have to manually type and search for it each time. Oh well I guess I'll just favorite this page from now on...

[-] novalentineforyou 3 Points 6 months ago

I disagree with about 50% of the stuff I read on this sub. If I feel strongly about it, I write a comment that argues against ideas I disagree with. If you're an adult, that's what you should do.

Both small children and liberals resort to force when they hear ideas they don't like.

[-] NomBok 3 Points 6 months ago

Does anyone know how to archive a post with the quarantine? Archive.is just ends up archiving the warning page...

[-] redpillschool 3 Points 6 months ago

Locate the thread on forums.red and run archive.is from there?

[-] NomBok 3 Points 6 months ago

When I look on there I only see top posts from multiple weeks ago, not any recent ones, unless I'm looking in the wrong place.

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[-] [deleted] 2 Points 6 months ago

Redpill has a lot of republican values so I’d understand why certain people would want it quarantined, but once they quarantined seddit I knew they were just playing into the hands of a small few offended by men trying to better themselves

[-] icanseeyourpantsuu 2 Points 6 months ago

While i agree that this limits the number of poor souls attempting to ride the trp train, this actually drives away the clowns and trolls shitposting.

Quarantined or not, we'll always see the positive outcome.

It was just our turn. Never was ours.

[-] garrypig 2 Points 6 months ago

I don’t see why TRP is quarantined. The mods never tolerated hate and the sub. They do a good job at keeping things fair and factual.

I can see why people could get offended, but it’s bot like it wasn’t based on repeatedly tested theories.

[-] abstractplebbit 2 Points 6 months ago

Did anyone seriously expect the reddit ((admins)) to have even a shred of honor, or are we just being ironic about how surprising this is?

[-] MinimalistLifestyle 2 Points 6 months ago

I almost feel like being quarantined just solidifies what this group is all about. We are not like the others.

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[-] karmalizing 1 Point 6 months ago

Who knows, it might be reversed. I never thought r_gundeals was coming back, but she did.

[-] Riael 1 Point 6 months ago

I was about to ask what quarantine means

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[-] Ivabighairy1 1 Point 6 months ago

Sounds like a Hard Next to me. What do you after you’ve been on the receiving end instead of the giving end?

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[-] ghua 1 Point 6 months ago

good thing you guys keep going, work on the website, make backups and make sure one can access the archive.

[-] RedPillCoach 1 Point 6 months ago

The only answer is to go fund me and sue them. This is a clear 1st amendment violation. Reddit is a public place. You don't get to open a park, invite the public, and then say no republicans or conservatives allowed. Freedom of association in public spaces is protected. Full stop.

[-] mcool4151 1 Point 6 months ago

I can now access this sub via reddit official app, some improvement I guess

[-] Watchingculturefade 1 Point 5 months ago

The new silencing tactics from Progressives is disgusting and incredibly hypocritical.

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A person can be sued and have to go all the way to the Supreme Court for not baking a cake, but entire media profiles like Google, Twitter, Facebook and Reddit can create rules to block out any ideology they feel like blocking.

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Just disgusting, has turned me from a slightly Right leaning Independent, to someone who will refuse to ever vote for anyone with a D next to them unless these free speech issues are taken care of.

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I am just absolutely sickened by the way ideologies are being stricken from publicly available sources and that people are trying to paly it off as "ok" because it is so called hate speech to some.

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I don't think Progressives realize how many people are against them on this.

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[-] minombreespollo 1 Point 6 months ago

I just got here, and I see no issue with the sub. It is interesting to see where this is going and I guess I have a lot more content to dig through.

[-] Nov51605 1 Point 6 months ago

my guess is that they are throwing out a lifeline to as many phd gender study clowns as possible for a debunk attempt with lots of fancy college words to baffle us with bullshit.

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[-] Jailhouseredpilled93 1 Point 6 months ago

I accessed this sub on my laptop, now I can access it on my mobile app as well. Its like the quarantine never happened.

[-] VoidInvincible 0 Points 6 months ago

This is still quarantined? It's coming up just fine on my mobile phone now though. At this point, does the quarantine even matter? I see no signs of the ban hammer coming upon this place at this time.

[-] TheRedPike 3 Points 6 months ago

Once you get past the "Are you sure you want to be told the truth by womanizing patriarchal shitlords?" screen, you shouldn't have any problems. If you run into trouble again, please let us know.

[-] mcool4151 0 Points 6 months ago

I'd be quite happy if our sub remains quarantined forever, its like a protection, those crazy left ppl can no longer seach us, if they do find us then doesn't matter because we're already quarantined, and that can stop most ppl against us

[-] jrr6415sun 0 Points 6 months ago

I said when you posted the appeal, it's too long, no one cares about it that much to put effort into reading it. You have to be concise and to the point. No one wants to read a thesis.

[-] redpillschool 5 Points 6 months ago

That's okay if they can't finish it. They still need to at least reject the appeal. They can write that they rejected it because it was too long.