I've been reading a lot "go to gym and get fit" here, so I started lifting myself and but I didn't expect what I saw today.
It's about my cousin: I've seen him again after months of almost no contact. He's been lifting a lot and got himself a very muscular and dominating body.
We went out and started to talk about our lifes. During our conversations there were at least 3 girls SMSing him at the same time. He wasn't even paying attention to them because "he got too many to pay attention to" according to his words. That didn't even discourage these girls to get his attention. One of them kept sending messages, she got mad because he didn't answer and told him it's over, she doesn't want to see him anymore. Then 20 minutes later she beggued him to call her. Another one suggested him to come over. He literally had that "big dick energy", he didn't ignore these girls just to tease them more, but because they annoyed him too much, he deleted a girl's messages because she was asking for too much attention and it felt like it was nothing for him deleting them.
He showed me videos where girls had fun touching his muscles and would love to film him working out.
He showed many pictures of girls he fucked and his SMS repertory was full of conversations with differents chicks.
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Now let's talk about him:
Pros :
-He has very muscular and good looking body.
-Good dress style.
-Alpha attitude.
Cons:
-He is not tall at all : 5.4.
-His face has nothing special and I find him below averge. Very bad jaw structure.
-He lives with his parents.
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I mean, I knew dudes who fucked a lot and got easily girls attention, but this guy, 5.4, not very attractive (at least for me), manages to fuck chicks just with a muscular body and an alpha attitude.
mustardduck 5y ago
Whether they say it or not, ALL women want someone with a very muscular body. Who wouldn't?
That being said, I have a buddy of mine who started lifting weights heavily in the past 4 years. He went from 6'1, 215 with a "dad bod" to 6'1, 185, lean and ripped.
I asked if he had pictures of himself before and after. He did. He looks like a different person. So, I asked his permission to use his photos for Tinder as an experiment. I downloaded Tinder Everywhere(changes your location) and set it to the Northwest US as we both live in the southeast region. I put two different profiles, same age, different names, but one had the old pictures, and one had newer pictures(him at the gym, showing abs, arms).
Picture one had 3 matches after a day.
Picture two had over 40.
You're welcome.
Pink-Heart 5y ago
I can confirm. My cousin changed completly once he gained muscles. You basically become a better version of yourself.
satanicpriest13 5y ago
What's his weight? Asking because I want to know weight/ height proportion. I am 5"5 inches myself, need to know how much it's possible to bulk up to.
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MrSaiyan_333_ 5y ago
I don't want to sound like a DYEL RSD fanboy, but maybe his nonchalant attitude is more important in this case (which can come from lifting, more testosterone and looking better, of course). I mean there are lots of buffed but insecure and needy guys who can't do the same shit.
Scandinavianredpill 5y ago
you have seen nothing if you think a guy like that slays alot or good quality :-).
Ansec 5y ago
Uh yeah. Who ever said that women don't care about looks that much was a beta chode. Women love aesthetically pleasing men just as much as men love a fit aesthetically pleasing woman.
Get ripped and she'll be all over you. Go to a thunder down under show and you'll know what I mean.
punchyson 5y ago
Anyone male or female that is fit is an automatic 6 minimum. Being fit is very attractive, doesn't matter who you are in terms of age, race, social, economic class.
I don't think it is your top priority as a man, but it is universally attractive.
lapeparoja 5y ago
Nice to read about your Filipino cousin adventures.
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MrCongeniality1 5y ago
I was 19 when I started lifting and made rapid gains; over 8 months I went from a skinny nerd to being large and well-proportioned. I was an awkward teen, but after that physical transformation girls thought I was hilarious and charming. My personality hadn't changed much at that point, so it was a real wake-up call to how a woman's whole reality follows behind whatever her strongest emotion is at that moment.
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MrCongeniality1 5y ago
Someone asked me about my lifting experience, so I'm going to reply here in case it is useful for others.
There is a lot of science testing different lifting programs but the results all seem to suggest that there are very few meaningful differences between programs.
It all comes down to a) time under tension, b) lifting goals, and c) hormone production.
Time under tension means that your muscles have to spend X amount of time exerting force. Rep/set count doesn't seem to matter. Going to exhaustion doesn't seem to matter. You have X many muscle fibers and they grow independently by being stressed. Your nervous system will only let you exert x% of these fibers for y amount of time. You don't need to blast every muscle fiber to grow (doing so might even lead to overtraining), but you do want to do enough work to trigger a maximal hormone response.
Get to know your body. Lift in the "growth" range (50-80% of 1RM) and pick a rep/set/rest configuration that allows you to feel strong. If you feel strong, you are mobilizing muscle fibers, if you feel weak, you are spending the same amount of time working out fewer muscle fibers.
Understanding your lifting goals means you need to understand a) your anatomy, and b) muscle anatomy. There are different body types, with ectomorphs being the narrow, skinny guys that have difficulty putting on muscle. I used to lift with an ectomorph and he didn't make gains until he worked a different kind of program - notably, a lot of plyometrics.
Ectomorphs skew heavily towards endurance-type muscle fibers, and therefore should focus on programs that lift at high-reps. They may never get big, but they can develop an attractive, well-defined physique.
The rest of us will benefit from a more typical routine, but you need to understand the two systems for lifting heavy weights. When you lift a weight that is at or near your 1-rep max, you are stressing your nervous system. This is suboptimal for growth because there is very little time under tension. You will get stronger from lifting near your 1RM, but it is primarily because your body is developing the neurological capacity to activate more muscle fibers at a time. Conversely, lifting in the "growth" range (50-80% of 1RPM) allows you to mobilize a lot of fiber for more time under tension, triggering growth adaptations. Some debate these two lifting approaches as developing "strength vs size". I disagree. It feels great to tout a high 1RM, but large muscles allow you to do more work over time. If one guy has a high 1RM but another guy has more endurance at 80% of that, both guys have a strength profile that is equally useful in the real world.
Follow a typical "growth" oriented program, but periodize with 1RM programs, or do both with pyramid sets. By doing some 1RM work, you improve the amount of fibers your muscles will marshal in a single lift, which will you save yourself time in the gym and develop another aspect of useful strength.
None of this matters if your body does not produce the hormones that trigger repair and growth. The main way this is important in the gym is that it informs the kind of exercises we do. You want to hit as many muscles at once to trigger an optimal hormonal response. Compound exercises (deadlifts, squats, bench, rows, etc.) are efficient and produce bigger hormonal responses. Using compound exercises in a full-body routine, will generate the biggest hormonal response.
Do a full-body routine with complementary compound exercises (i.e. alternating push with pull, like bench and rows). Always do at least one leg exercise. Simple day 1: Bench/Rows/Squats. Simple day 2: Shrugs/Pullups/Deadlifts. Add more as time/energy allows.
There are a lot of other lifestyle things that help your body stay its best:
- Reduce sources of chronic stress
- Caffeine, TV, and video games are actually unhealthy "stressors" too
- Yoga is good for promoting healing and a limber body that has room for growth
- Balancing lifting with low-weight activities can help a lot - I did mountain biking and bag work at least once a week, sprints and stairs are good too (note that these are explosive activities, not pure endurance sports)
- When I was active (physically and socially) I found myself wanting to masturbate much less which I think is a positive sign; remove porn from your media diet altogether
- Develop good sleep habits and make a lot of time for it
- Reduce carbs, focus on meat, fish, fruits, and veggies.
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Hope this helps.
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Betanorman 5y ago
What's the point of having money if you can't enjoy it properly?
BurnoutRS 5y ago
If you cant reduce the stressors in your environment you can always reduce your own response to those stressors.
Its like life is a shark infested ocean, and all the treasure is on an island in the middle. If you can make an effort to reduce the amount of sharks, go for it, but you should also train yourself for what to do in the event that you come face to face with one.
rigbed 5y ago
Very good to hear about a realistic chad for once
REDoROBOT 5y ago
The chad shorty vs the virgin lanklet
ovrload 5y ago
You can’t be a chad at 5’4 ????????♂️
eccentricrealist 5y ago
Even Peter Dinklage is a chad
rigbed 5y ago
Putin would like to have a word with you
universalabundance1 5y ago
Ya, Putin is 5'7 and one of the most bad ass men to ever walk this earth. There are literally millions of women all over the world that would love to be his bitch.
VeryTalentedCheff 5y ago
I would suck his dick for the motherlands interests.
ovrload 5y ago
That’s being alpha he isn’t a chad. Chads are tall good looking men
universalabundance1 5y ago
Show where the rule says that Chad has to be a tall man.
ovrload 5y ago
That’s where the original meaning came from ???? chad thundercock was a tall white attractive athletic male who girls wanted to fuck
universalabundance1 5y ago
again, cite me the source. how do i know you're not making it up?
ovrload 5y ago
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/chad-thundercock
universalabundance1 5y ago
no where in that post does it say ANYTHING about being tall...you fucking idiot.
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st3roids 5y ago
Is the attitude that comes from a good body not the body it self. women just don't think like men , a nice body is a good feat but they aren't as visual as men are.
women don't just get horny when they see a naked man
Rtat 5y ago
women are just as visual as men theyre just less likely to admit it in self report studies. look into it
adequatebeing 5y ago
I would like to know if lifting can help you with your attitude. Will it push you towards an alpha attitude?
MrCongeniality1 5y ago
Besides gaining confidence from how people react to you, I believe the hormonal changes from lifting do affect your inherent level of confidence and "go get em"ness.
Rogdozz 5y ago
What are you doing on this sub if you’re not even lifting
adequatebeing 5y ago
If I were already a RedPiller then I wouldn't be here. I am not so that is the exact reason for me to learn from others.
Pink-Heart 5y ago
You gain confidence towards your training.
universalabundance1 5y ago
How old is he? Where does he meet girls?
Pink-Heart 5y ago
He is 24. He told me he meets girls mostly on instagram and in the streets.
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Pink-Heart 5y ago
Apparently yes. Wasn't expecting this either.
Innug 5y ago
I'm curious what was his question before he deleted it?
Thizzlebot 5y ago
They could be low quality women though, they are way more desperate lol.
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Pink-Heart 5y ago
I was also very surprised. I guess there's still chance for everyone.
tempolaca 5y ago
I call bullshit on it. Sorry man, no 5'4 men is fucking ton of girls. Maybe he's fucking some.
Pink-Heart 5y ago
What do I have to win by lying?
tempolaca 5y ago
I don't say you are lying, maybe he's exaggerating.
Pink-Heart 5y ago
He wasn't bragging about it, I saw the results with my own eyes.
garvkapur 5y ago
I'm about the same height and would love to see how this guy looks with a musclar structure being that short. Any pics you can show?
LiftMeditateApproach 5y ago
buddy, if you are that short then working out is pointless for you... you will be seen as an overcompensating midget.
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rogueman999 5y ago
My trainer is about that height and completely packed with muscles. He also has a shaved head due to beginning of hair loss. And yet, he slays like a true chad.
Apparently it's much easier to compensate height with muscles than it is with money or personality.
Pink-Heart 5y ago
I don't have pics of him. And even If I had, I wouldn't post them on reddit.
lowtiergodz 5y ago
You’ll look bigger and more defined easier but you’ll be dwarfed by taller less muscular people
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MuchFIERCE 5y ago
Jeff nippard is a good example. He is short so he looks huge
GodOfDinosaurs 5y ago
Nippard is definitely juicy tho
MuchFIERCE 5y ago
He is hella short and has parents with great genes so i would say he is probably natty.
GodOfDinosaurs 5y ago
I really doubt it man. Even with good muscle insertions and leverages for the big upper-body lifts, the dude is really pushing it. I'd say he's run a cycle in the past at a minimum.
falconpush 5y ago
Agreed. Nattys dont look like that.... like ever. Look at the contestants that attend the Natural Body Building events. They look massively smaller than their heavy weight counterparts.
A cycle or two... or 6, may just be the gap closer one may need to get closer to those kinds of results
ac_bro 5y ago
He s like 5 foot 5 with good insertions , if you think his body is impossible to achieve natty then you just have some seriously low standards ..
falconpush 5y ago
if you look at the "pros" that are in natural competitions, then you'd prob reconsider that stance.
ac_bro 5y ago
I know people in real life who are bigger than him and they re definetly natty , they re also not midgets . His physique is definetly good and some people might never get there with average genetics , but it s still achievable . Just need full muscle bellies (especially with the biceps ) and good insertions .
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WellEducatedAgni 5y ago
How do you handle when people/women criticize you for using steroids?
odin1111 5y ago
ignore them.
If they are your "friends"
they arent. Get new friends.
I dont do steroids but this goes for anything you do in which you are improving yourself.
I usually dont talk about it or play it down unless I REALLY trust them.
There have been only a few guys I know that I could trust like that.
Oh, and DEFINATELY dont talk about you improving yourself at work AT ALL. If someone notices, play it off, and never mention it again. Hell, even avoid them if you need to.
AreOut 5y ago
upper body is perfect but legs would look much better not shaved, way too unnatural like this :)
and while girls like this I think they are more into low bf than muscle mass(their perception of power&strength is a bit different than ours..they'll subconsciously think that C. Ronaldo is stronger than Halfthor lol), so you would likely have similar success with light or no cycles looks wise, however if muscle mass brings you confidence that's another story, and yes they notice confidence
moral of the story - take roids only after you have reached your natural limit and you aren't satisfied&confident with that
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Marino4K 5y ago
How “very muscular” is the guy OP is talking about?
tempolaca 5y ago
Dont fool yourself, girls like to be fucked by a gorilla. Low BF has nothing to do with it.
I don't know if I would sacrifice my time and health to look like that just to fuck girls. It's not worth it IMHO.
MoDuReddit 5y ago
As mean and lean guy, I beg to differ. That's what they usually say to me, before I literally throw them in the air like toy and grab them gently as they fall. Then "buffness" is never mentioned again, surprisingly.
Listen to what women do, not what they say.
AreOut 5y ago
the first thing girls want from the guy is to make their friends jealous, and lean guys are what's popular today..9 out of 10 girls prefer the looks of a 180 lbs 10% guy than a 250 lbs 20% guy (like me), yes they like when I lift them like a toy during sex but their "social status" between their friends is unfortunately way more important for them than sex quality
freew33zy 5y ago
I agree here. I do side with thinking girls like this, but I'm okay with guys taking girls who want this appearance off the market for me. I'd rather live until I'm 80 and have time to do things like write stories and make music while keeping in reasonable good shape and fucking my classy 10 or so girls every year, rather than dedicating to just lifting and maybe fucking 50 girls in a year but ruining a lot of my life in the process.
cpk8080 5y ago
This X100 , I've said the same thing over and over.
tempolaca 5y ago
Yeah I mean, if you like bodybuilding then by all means, do it. But just for fucking girls? you can pay to fuck much more girls, and don't lose your health in the process.
EvanPetersDouble 5y ago
Humble bragging? The latter sentence is described as 'alpha widowing'.
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Foobyx 5y ago
yeah, and lot of girls will run away from you cause you have too much muscle.
tempolaca 5y ago
And secretly come back at night. It's like running away from a girl because she have too much boobs. Not going to happen.
Foobyx 5y ago
No, it's like running away from girl because she is too skinny.
male model: bulk and strong. female model: slim
Female too skinny: some guys run away (not all) Male too strong: some girls run away (not all)
odin1111 5y ago
shut up, faggot. it takes AT LEAST five years to get big enough to where girl would run away, and even then thats on gear anyway, gtfo with this nonsense.
Foobyx 5y ago
lol. i was talking based on the pictures that were post. Given your text, you don't seem like a smart guy, arent you?
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EvanPetersDouble 5y ago
What if you're having a nice normal amount of mass and are fucking shredded? I think it's more optimal and attractive looking like a ninja rather than a bald gorilla on roids with unnatural popping veins.
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EvanPetersDouble 5y ago
Being like zyzz or jeff seid in his younger days?
sergioisawesome_ 5y ago
What is your cycle? how many have you done? (just curious, nothin wrong)
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Thizzlebot 5y ago
Just out of curiosity how much does that cost? I always figured that shit was super expensive.
xNightly 5y ago
What's it like being on those? Are there any overwhelming side-effects?
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dongpal 5y ago
do you already have some health problems because of the cycle? what do you think about your health in 20+ years?
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Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
What are some of the nasty sides? Also, aren't you worried about heart hypertrophy, perhaps the most serious side for roids?
Where can one learn how to be safe using roids?
The__Tren__Train 5y ago
aas + high blood pressure + GH will lead to cardiac hypertrophy.
if you keep blood pressure under control, and don't abuse (or even use) GH, you will most likely be just fine
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
interesting. I thought that since the heart is a muscle and aas affects muscle growth, aas will cause cardiac hypertrophy
The__Tren__Train 5y ago
aas will increase blood pressure in most people...severely in some people. im 28, and i take blood pressure medication
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
shit, eh? that makes one think twice about roids.
AceMav21 5y ago
Sounds like he targets high schoolers just off your description of their behavior
Pink-Heart 5y ago
Most of them were around 23 to 25. One had a job, car ect...
EvanPetersDouble 5y ago
I am 22 and currently get blowjobs from a 17 year old girl. Can someone explain if something is wrong with high school girls beside their neediness and want for attention? Some of them are good at bj's others not so good etc.
Dickinson_Burns 5y ago
Generally it's their immaturity, there's usually a bit of a spike between before HS and a few years after (20-22).I gather you live in Australia, where I have not really experienced this spike, so it may not be as relevant.
In general I've found HS students to be just less mature in general, feels a bit bad to take them seriously. Obviously YMMV and if you're just ejaculating and evacuating, i guess it doesn't matter so long as you are on the legal side. People seem to think less of you for going for HS students, though (besides the whole pedo thing, there is a perceived notion that they are "easier" as they are less mature, so it paints you as a predator for going for them)
VoidInvincible 5y ago
Where do you meet them? I was in a similar boat at 23 in community college and met a younger chick at my school.
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GodOfDinosaurs 5y ago
bro delete this, seriously. why would you admit to a felony online?
EDIT: nvm
v0v4n 5y ago
FYI: not everyone on TRP is from the US states that have age of consent set to 18.
I was actually going to say US as a whole, but then I took a brief look at the map and even in the US there are a lot of states with 16 or 17 as an age of consent.
MrSaiyan_333_ 5y ago
In Hungary it's only 14. :P
GodOfDinosaurs 5y ago
Yes good point, my bad. Knee jerk reaction
EvanPetersDouble 5y ago
It's not felony lol. The age of consent here is 16.
GodOfDinosaurs 5y ago
Good point, my bad. I reacted too quickly.
odin1111 5y ago
yeah, u.s. laws =/= world laws lol
classicverdant 5y ago
I am curious to know whether there can be any legal ramifications in this scenario
EvanPetersDouble 5y ago
The consensus in my country is 16. Plus they're easy targets and fall for high SmV and men with titanium frame, easier than way older women I think.
magx01 5y ago
Going for the low hanging fruit is not titanium behaviour.
HumanSockPuppet 5y ago
You sound like a giraffe with a short neck.
odin1111 5y ago
stop being a faggot. men are programmed to want young tight pussy, if that ruffles your jimmies, the go fuck fat 50 year olds, no one is stopping you.
magx01 5y ago
You misunderstood my point.
EvanPetersDouble 5y ago
Plus, what low hanging fruit. You can find some 17 years old hb 9s.
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EvanPetersDouble 5y ago
Don't ever date them, it's a destruction. Unless you find a more 'mature' one or more focused and not following the mass but it's hard at this early age for them. Even though it happened to me once, I did find such a girl at her 17. Who knows?
I'm pro not dating them because they're usually stuck up virgins and due to age and shaming problems they won't give away pussy easily, this way you would waste time investing while when you break up with them when they get older they will fuck other dudes like it's a game.
odin1111 5y ago
anyone reading, dont listen to this idiots advice.
EvanPetersDouble 5y ago
Read the rest of why I believe this.
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EvanPetersDouble 5y ago
In my experience, and my hometown specifically only about 20% of them gets rid of virginity in 15-16. The rest are all virgins or with less sexual experience like blowjobs, foreplay and crap. The fact you think they would be shamed for this stands but not entirely true, as we know women due to solipsism dont rationalize like men and in the end bash through the stereotypes of this kind, plus I meant social shaming but someone said it doesn't even exist, but again that's not entirely true. They do face problems accepting the fact that things will change after they get laid and usually this happens when they age up during their 14-18, if you date a 16 year old girl until she goes 18 and you haven't fucked her yet chances are she got used to keep you around for other stuff and when you break up she will definitely get laid on the first 2-3 chances she gets at least.
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1TRUEKING 5y ago
yes and high schoolers also don't care about height as much since the kids are still growing lmao.
AceMav21 5y ago
Yeah shit man I’m 5’8 but look like Tom Cruise???? I’ll still fuck a 16yr old.
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Brendanlisp0 5y ago
What body fat % is he??
That’s the real question
If u had to guess what would it be?
Pink-Heart 5y ago
Around 9 to 10% I would say.
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TheSoftParade69 5y ago
Bullshit, no guy who's 5'4 with a bad face is going to pull like that. Too many guys think lifting will make them desirable, when its mostly face and height. It has so many more benefits beyond making you more attractive.
tempolaca 5y ago
My friend has a face that looks like a model, and it's not very tall, but not short either, about 5'11. Girls fall over to touch him in the nightclub.
The truth is that muscles help, but not in a nightclub. I think it's the equivalent of a huge boob girl. You know you want to tap that, but discretely.