Now for when she does want to see you. "I'm so sorry, tomorrow won't work my schedule is full! I really want to see you though how about another time??!".

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That's still a rejection in my books. Unless another time is provided then you're just orbiting. I can give someone 2 chances for that nonsense because sometimes people are just that busy or distracted but never a third. If you don't give me an alternative then I'm going to assume that you're not interested.

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in my experience they wont even want to keep me around. they just throw a short term shitty lie and then just block me from whatever software i am takling to

in my experience women never said me: "i dont want to see you again cuz ur ugly". they tell shitty lies. i kind of understand this bc i really cant be honest with ugly girls neither.

you just dont want to bother explaining shit or instantly make poeple feel bad, inheriting guilt if she he commit suicide or shit like that

1. texting girls and thinkin about it is wasted time.
2. a girl will literally do ANYTHING to fuck you if youre a badass, no matter what she says - and you will know.

solution? become the man in 2. and you never will care about 1.

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Yeh but i only realize years later

it's a watered-down variation of an old advice - don't waste time with women that don't chase you. if she's not chasing you, next the bitch

She came over and played with my dick, wore a lacey bra and I DIDN'T FUCK HER BECAUSE THE BETA BILLY IN ME DIDN'T THINK SHE WANTED TO!!! *Smacks head

Now she doesn't talk to me anymore. Granted this was about 15 years ago, but I had to learn the lesson the HARD way.

Anti-Dump Machine is a great read for this.

A guy worth his salt can tell a girl is into him like a girl worth her salt can tell a guy's having approach anxiety or sweats.

A girl is into you when you fuck her

But also all the way from when she first looks at you to right before you take off her pants.

There is a constant flow of a girl being into you

And sometimes, no, you won't even notice because you are so entranced into her, and other times, she'll give off the tiniest signal and you know she wants to fuck.

Keep going out, talking to women, and you'll fit all the little pieces together

This. I asked this girl out on a date and she told me that although she finds me very attractive she she has really heavy social anxiety and gets panic attacks when she's touched. I spent a month afterward thinking that since she finds me attractive she'll come around eventually until I found this sub. Now I recognize even though what she said is true it's just BS.

Now I know why Rollo says don't even bother with a girl if her interest in you is not at least 7 /10.

This post is good for guys who are new to game and need to be constantly hitting up new girls to get used to interacting with women and getting their dicks wet. Hell I was very black & white drop a bitch in an instant to begin. Glad I was. I'm far less emotionally invested now... But that being said...

For me, I'll message bitches quite a bit. I used to not do text game, and you can always be a guy goin for "fuck ya" girls, but you'll miss out on a lot of pussy. Call it Beta, but fact is, it's the game. Deal with it. I don't mind sending texts to a handful of girls who are lukewarm. If they're consistently responding and chatting you up, you're probably in the game. If not, who cares, I always have a few girls in that "unsure" category, and one bite is enough.

Key is how you SET IT UP. If you start off your interactions with girls as vague, then GG. If you start off your interactions sexually, then you're golden.

There's always a fine line to cross, and yes, if you've been chatting up a girl for several months and she can't fuckin' hang, yea, drop her dipshit. But if you've been chatting her up a week or two and she's playin games, don't fuckin worry about it. Stick to your guns, ask her out a few times, and also be gaming new women.

Abundance comes when you seriously don't give af. Every women I've "missed out on" I've found a counterpart too. Everyone is replaceable, hard-truth. Even you. Even that unicorn that you'll "never meet again", but fact is, you can, and will, probably meet tons of chicks that look & act similar too her.

Thing is, if you only go for the women that are obviously interested in you, you're leaving a lot of opportunities on the table. Most guys don't have many, if any, women of this kind in thier life, so going after the ones that give mixed signal is their only way.

women have this " if i tell him no, he will yell and scream at me" complex.

so they don't tell you OUTRIGHT no. they give you a subtle " maybe next time"

whenever a woman says maybe, it means no. almost always.

Some of them do play hard to get though. They then end up regretting it a bit later. Just like us they read cosmos and shitt. So even for high SMV guys with whom they want to be considered as a serious gf contender they play coy.

For us, A lot depends on abundance. If you have tons of girls u fuckin then they'll sense this and may chase u. Girls too get turned down when they show interest bright as day this results in them playing games with future guys.

Hence why one should keep trying within limits on those girls that give mixed signals but NEVER get desperate or chase. Maybe u hit the timing right once and it's bangtime.

But yes the best sex are the ones where 'it just happens' effortlessly. You naturally smash thru shit tests and never truly worry about if the girl likes u or not. It's an amazing feeling. This is what all top 10% men get.

So do guys with game but their playing on the high end of the 'numbers game'. High SMV guys do not like rejection.

I sometimes don't even take the effort when she asks for a different day. Only when she suggests the day herself

This post is spot on. If a woman wants to fuck you or be with you then you will know. Sexual Desire cant be negotiated. A women will drop her friends for the night just to sneak into your room to bang you. There is no such thing as playing hard to get.

As I've written before, this is why women will say, "I have a boyfriend," instead of "I'm not interested/no thanks pal." Because they CANNOT bring themselves to deliberately tell a man they're not interested and therefore, he shouldn't be either. "I have a boyfriend" implies, "but otherwise I'd listen--maybe sometime in the future." It's also why you have to treat it as a shit test, because if you can prove you're alpha enough, the job is yours.

Here's what you do if she's not interested: either do not reply at all or tell her something like: "Sounds like you're really busy. See you around." Then don't reply EVER until she initiates.

Yes, you'll never hear from some women in this case, but if that happens, there was probably nothing you could do anyway and you're better off just to move on.

However, if she's mildly interested, or really was busy, you've got the hamster spinning--now she's wondering what you've got going on that's so good you're not asking her out again.

My rule is to ask twice. One time, OK, she's busy, can't make it, whatever. If she's interested, she'll usually suggest another time when she is free. But because some women are socially inept and can't communicate like adults, it's fine to ask a second time. If at that point she's busy, cue the routine above--but if she IS interested, asking the second time will prompt her to suggest another time when she is free.

In the meantime, lift, man the mission, and meet more girls. It's all about creating abundance.

And trust me, some of them will zombie back.

This is generally true. A solid prospect you meet at a bar will often kino you back heavily and then respond to a text later with great enthusiasm.

But there are definitely other girls that it’s not so clear with. They’re passive and they just go with the flow. They don’t IOI you heavily, but they’re down to hang and they don’t flake. They accept your kino, but they don’t ever touch you back. You always text them, they never text you. When you do text them it’s not hard to schedule a hookup. They give you no ASD in bed and the sex is animalistic.

They show no proactive interest at all, but they also put up no resistance.

These girls are actually the hardest to get used to when you’re transitioning into TRP. Betas love women who show a lot of proactive interest and take the lead in escalating the relationship. Gaming girls who are extremely feminine and passive is almost harder, in a certain way, because most men aren’t comfortable taking the leadership role with a woman to quite that degree.

When a beta encounters that kind of girl he just freezes and assumes she’s not interested. “If she was interested I’d know,” he thinks to himself. But she is interested. She’s just expecting him to take the lead, and he has no idea how.

Depends on the interaction fase you guys are. If you talk to her for some time and she doesn't show any sign of interest GTFO. You need to know in witch situation you find yourself and this is where danger is found since most people get confused with the ioi's.

In all fair your post is right, you'll know if she's into you or not, to be protected from bullshit ALWAYS be in doubt and thread carefully

Now for when she does want to see you. "I'm so sorry, tomorrow won't work my schedule is full! I really want to see you though how about another time??!".

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I have received that kind of comments from a particular girl. Though I don't feel she's eager to see me. That's what confuses me.

Assume attraction. Kino escalate. Close.

PUA advice gets shit on around here, but the fundamentals still ring true.

Yeah. Interested in your cash or your status

Yeah it doesn’t help our cause that most guys get angry when they get rejected. Worst possible reaction.

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I wouldn’t have texted the third time for sure. At the point she says she’s going out instead of doing stuff with you cut off communication. Also, no need to send the text the day after you smash—let her send it. Otherwise if you want to hang out again, wait until that time and then suggest something specific or ask when she’s free. But I wouldn’t worry about it too much. Maybe she’s just fucking a bunch of dudes... just learn from it. I definitely fucked up a bunch before I learned this shit—and I still sometimes do.

Or, "Damn... I have work in the morning, 2 assignments due, I had to work late."

"Ok, I'll be over in 5 minutes."

"You don't care about me at all... Hurry up!"

"Perfect." click

Relevant side bar item:

The Medium is the Message

When it comes to men, women do not do accountability. They do not do responsibility. They do not do direct communication.

A woman is never going to tell you "I am not very interested in you." Mixed signals are her version of "No, but without me actually having to tell you no".

With all due respect... not always true.

It just depends on your frame of mind, how you see things. Myself, for example, sometimes I'll see hope where there is none, but more often than not, I am so full of self-doubt/self-hate, I've let opportunities slip by because I was SO sure I didn't have a chance.

I was overweight throughout high school, but discovered years later that two attractive girls actually had a thing for me, which I had no idea, because I thought they were just out of my league (and I wasn't even hanging out with them).

As someone who still REALLY struggles with insecurities, I feel like it's probably more beneficial to say "it doesn't matter if you think she likes you or not; make a move".

Don't be so sure. Looking in my past I'm pretty confident that there were a lot of girls giving me hints and I did nothing. For example, when I was still a virgin I got on a date with a cutie who was very interested in me, for a longer period. We went to a cinema, hung around at her mothers house (all alone). Nothing, because I thought I was not good enough, or was scared, or something else stupid, don't even remember. Second date, home alone again, we watched "Kinsey" for christ sake, sitting next to each other under a blanket. And I did nothing, just because I was not sure. Or was scared of rejection. Or to insecure.

Guess what - now, when I'm out of my insecurities, I'm catching those signals far more often. All I need to do is to make the first step. A clear, conscious, confident invitation. And it is so rewarding...

I go by this but sometimes I'm relatively quick to stop talking to a woman if I feel like the interest isn't there

Yes, if a woman is truly interested in you or likes you, she will be constantly texting or messaging you to the point of annoyance. You will know when she likes you. She will be reaching out to you, initiating contact, and hinting at a date or straight up asking to hang out.

What if she tells you indirectly that she dating someone but hes not her boyfriend and that he's annoying and talks too much/talks about shit she doesn't care about.