This is gonna be a short rant post. But maybe due to me googling RP stuff for many days now, stuff like this now often appears on my quora feed. Damn, wish I didn't read this, but oh well, have to get it outta my mind (cause it brought back the memory of my ex who threatened DV on me once)
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-worst-thing-a-woman-can-do-to-a-man/answer/Christopher-Carlin-16
This guy's friend's bailed him out - almost certainly other guys. If the comments section is to be believed, women simply offer sympathy and are satisfied with the feeling of pity. His male friends however, offered him a couch.
And yesterday comes in a post of an anonymous beta who's so beta that he goes back to the woman who slapped a divorce paper on him, fucks her when she says she's in the middle of her cycle, has 2 kids with her, gets abused and humiliated, and claims he wants to stay because he loves his kids. For god's sake, stuff like that is why we need the red pill.There are a lot of threads like this on social media that might make you nihilistic, but it will tell you two things. One, women have far more privilege than men do in a lot of things - the scope of this doesn't become clear until you know the laws of your state or country really well, and the history of their use and misuse. The justice system is increasingly screwed against men, and there is a section of lawyers who essentially make their money by getting families to break up. There is still a part of the judiciary that seeks the truth and does not tolerate lies - but good luck with that. So knowing the laws -- it's a non-negotiable thing.
At least knowing what it takes to ensure you have a job, a lawyer, a house of your own and a car just in case you come back home to face the worst is now an essential survival skill, as much as caveman had to keep his eyes and ears open for predators - it's something every man needs to know before getting committed.
The other common trend I observe here is that - Before a relationship gets to this point, there are plenty and plenty of red flags. As an example, one red flag a lot of guys in these threads didn't realize was a sudden change in the woman's character at some point in the relationship - it could start with a refusal of the woman to accept and align with the man or anything related to him - his family, beliefs, his frame in general. But basically it's a declaration of independence and a refusal to acknowledge the man's frame - that turns into resistance. If anyone here is familiar with the betaization process, it's stage #5 at work, which means the relationship is more dead than the poor guy thinks.
Another example (which was there in the link I shared) was a threat of using the law against you. You do not say to anyone you love that sort of stuff which you'd think twice about doing to your worst enemy. If men are really the gatekeepers of commitment and trust, this ought to be the vision of the grim reaper and a clear signal to get out, as intact as possible while one still can. Thank god my ex never actually did use this on me before we split, but I remember that day where in the middle of one epic blow up, she ranted about dragging me to the streets using domestic abuse.
Other red flags are the tell tale signs of infidelity, about which there're are plenty of posts here. Watch out for that special hamstering ("Just a friend", "It was all in the past").
The thing in most of these relationships is that there were plenty of red flags. The one reason why those red flags were ignored was because people hamstered the feeling away thinking that there's no way someone so close to them could dream of doing or saying stuff like that to them. They also believed that things would work out down the road. Guess what, they never did.
Unfortunately, your gut's always right. Your mind may lie and rationalize, but the body never lies. If there's one thing that your body doesn't do, it's lie to you. People's mouth's and faces lie, their feet and behaviour doesn't. Learning the art of reading where your relationship is, what's the level of trust, and where it could be heading, and facing the unpleasant truths in time can allow you to get out before things blow up.
If these guys knew the truth, the first sign that the one closest to them might be about to become their enemy would have had them doing whatever it took to gather proof of their innocence before they found themselves on the streets or in prison. In my own case, I had a recorder running 24x7 inside my PC that recorded everything - it was buried under dozens of other open apps so that even if my ex checked out my PC, she wouldn't find it. Fortunately, I never needed any of it down the road.
Whisper 5y ago
TRP, of course, has the answer to this. She doesn't care at all.
There is a male protective instinct towards women.
There is a female protective instinct towards children.
There is NO female protective instinct towards men.
These imbalanced protective instincts evolved to safeguard certain members of the human species under conditions of total inequality in the natural state... women having absolute power over children, and men having absolute power over women.
A child who was made the legal "equal" of an adult could, and frequently would, perpetuate the worst and most horrible crimes upon adults with absolute impunity, frequently using other adults as proxies to do so. And so it is with women. This is the basis of their behaviour.
How does this appear to women? That, too, is a simple answer through the lens of the red pill. To a woman, a man exists in one of two mutually exclusive states. Either he is a worthy, attractive man, by reason of being more powerful than her, and therefore nothing she does to get revenge can seriously harm him... she is simply getting even, and he is not seriously harmed, for he is a powerful man, and therefore invincible. OR he is NOT more powerful than her... but if this is so, then he is not more powerful than her, and is therefore weak, and therefore worthless and despicable, and his pain does not matter.
Thus it is that in a woman's view, any pain she can inflict on a man, he deserves by reason of his vulnerability to it.
Still wanna get married?
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yomo86 5y ago
Damn. That's a dark reality.
MrTrizzles 5y ago
Women are fiercely protective of the men they love. Why would anyone expect the same concern for men they do not love?
Thunderbird93 5y ago
Then simply divorce him,why try to destroy his life in other ways that are extrajudicial?
MrTrizzles 5y ago
Eh. I’m not going to speculate on post-relationship emotions when all bets are off. I dare say it’s also outside the purview of TRP.
mrcs84usn 5y ago
You never really know a woman until you've met her in court.
It's pretty common knowledge that the legal system is anti-male. I'm assuming it's especially bad in Massachusetts.
DigitalDragonSlayer 5y ago
Can confirm, Boston bro here. This state is an ultra liberal, anti-masculine, man-hating place.
Thunderbird93 5y ago
Straight up man. In highschool I lived in New Hampshire. More freedom and no police drama. Higher taxation and big government leads to this kind of shit, people always trying to meddle in each others lives
bakachelera 5y ago
Nah man. Its all the world that's fucked up, I can confirm at least that in the southern side of the border the law is also anti male.
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How long does the depression phase of TRP last approximately?
When I was in the anger phase stuff like this would have irritated me, now it just makes me feel depressed and helpless.
I'm grateful I'm making progress, but it's still really difficult to deal with at times
RPLawyer 5y ago
It stops when you start lifting and getting laid regularly. When you realise that women need you more than you need them.
SKRedPill 5y ago
The only solution is when you've successfully put a distance between yourself and your past. Still just the fact I google so much of TRP stuff in the past months means it's affected my quora feed. I do meditation and read spiritual stuff to remind myself to stay grounded and not get caught up in my past or my worries about the future - but that at first makes you even more aware of what you're thinking and feeling (everything that was subconscious now becomes glaringly apparent) -- then slowly you learn to dissolve the pain and get a grip over yourself. So it gets a lot worse apparently before it gets better - kind of like TRP itself.
We as men, need solutions more than feelings. It'll be better for all of us to have a thread on "How to protect yourself from jail time and homelessness before a relationship" as an essential sidebar topic.
The enemy is ever there, back then it was mother nature, now it's this. We survived that, we have to survive this.
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Senorbubbz 5y ago
Troll post of the century, this is pure sarcasm.
Wolveryn 5y ago
An important point to point out here, a woman can be operating against you before she's turned against you. You just don't know it/want to believe it... until its too late.
FullOfShiznit 5y ago
I left the country before she could even spell child support
heronmarkedblade1984 5y ago
How does that work? Like if a court orders child support, would not another countries legal system require it be upheld? I'm not familiar at all with requirements for moving to another country.
Churningaway 5y ago
Child support orders in the US are enforceable only in a handful of other countries, sometimes it's the wise decision and the only option unless you want to be a wage slave
FullOfShiznit 5y ago
You need to move to a country that is not bound by this specific treaty, also do some nasty stuff not to be found.
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FullOfShiznit 5y ago
There is a lot of information about that on the internet but things you need at all cost are: Money to keep you alive for a few months until you find a constant money supply in the new country. Friends with benefits that you need to find within those few months which will get you where ever you intend to be on the money ladder. And the nasty stuff which can be risky depending on the country's legal system (there are many ways to hide your ass in the real world, google it using VPN or proxy in case you find yourself in the given situation, there is nothing wrong about a healthy paranoia when it comes to your own well being) You also need to learn the language as soon as possible, as good as possible including cultural quirks, this will help you to blend in and feel good in your new every day life.
Thunderbird93 5y ago
Sounds like escaping prison and living on the run. Why not just do it domestically? Dip from coast to coast, I doubt the F.B.I would look for someone based on child support payments, but the judge could always issue a warrant for not paying up. DMX got arrested for not paying child support
FullOfShiznit 5y ago
Not really on the run, you get to the other country, blend in, start a new life and never look back, that's it. And to be more precise, as soon as you stop paying child support and escape this unjust feministic bullshit society , your ass is on the list, this list can be viewed by any boarder control agency of the countries bound by the treaty. The FBI won't catch you, the other country's own police branch will, sooner or later. You need to choose wisely and plan carefully before doing anything and don't share your thoughts with any of your conditioned friends,most of the time, you're on your own, keep it that way.
Thunderbird93 5y ago
Sounds like a stressful and lonely life to be honest. How much are child support payments for the average Joe? I know for celebrities they are waaaaay above the standard of living
chrisname 5y ago
Man, I think I would have just murder-suicided her.
RPLawyer 5y ago
Yeah, me too. Especially if I'm as old as this poor guy. Between completely rebuilding my life at almost 60 years old and feeling the sweet justice of taking the lying bitch out with me, I'm no sure I'd choose the first option.
And they say women are oppressed... To me, you could replace "man" with "Jew" and "woman" with "Aryan" and you'd think you're in 1930's Germany.
xachariah 5y ago
The is the menkampf subreddit does a good job of showing off the hypocrisy.
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tempolaca 5y ago
This sound like an incredibly exaggeration but, having (and currently being) going throug several lawsuits that a crazy girl filed against me, dude, you wont believe how they threat men there. We are worst than animals. For them, we are guilty first, and an example to show everybody else, that they are hard against men, and believe women. The judge itself said to me "In my career I never saw a false denounce from a woman" the judge! talk to me about bias. They threat you like garbage, most lawyers won't even take your case. I'm not even accused of abuse or rape. Just "harrasment" against a women (specifically, calling her, going to the same places, etc.) not even threatening her.
Funny thing, it that I'm winning all cases because this girl is so stupid that lied on everything. But it cost me my life, my friends, my girlfriend. And huge amounts of money.
That event sent me straight to TRP. But avoid this at all costs.
eyewant 5y ago
How much money in total? Did you get any of it back?
tempolaca 5y ago
I spent about a car worth in lawyers (long process, 5+ lawsuits, 2+ years). And they were very cheap lawyers (error, don't spare expenses in lawyers).
In theory, I get it back IF I win. If I lose, I also have to pay her lawyers. About another car. And she can then file for damages, and that could be about a house worth of damages.
eyewant 5y ago
That's horrible. I hope you win man. What country you live in? I need to avoid it like the plague.
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vast_rightwing 5y ago
I won't ever judge a man for decisions he makes looking out for his kids. Didn't read past that part.
Thunderbird93 5y ago
I live in Massachusetts. Liberal states and their big daddy government is the problem. In 2015 I started hearing voices symptoms of schizophrenia, one time I was off work and they were telling me I was getting raped. I got pissed so I went looking for a fight. I was living in a motel and I go the next room over. I knock on the door,some hag answers, I walk in and ask the guy sitting on the bed if he has a problem, he says, "I'm a lover not a fighter." I leave. The cops get called,they take my ID and tell me to stay in my room. I get to the door to see what they are doing and BAM, just like that I'm arrested. When I was in the holding cells the voices ramped up,I was losing my mind. I end up banging my head on the door till they come over, I tell them, I'm losing my mind hearing voices, they ignored me. When trial came nobody testified. I hadn't laid a finger on anyone, just asked a threatening question. Nobody gives a fuck about you if your a man, your pain is irrelevant man, that's just the way it is. They had charged me with assault and battery & breaking and entering. Shits ridiculous
beginner_ 5y ago
Lesson learned: If such a threat is made you leave your home ASAP, within the week at least or at least install cams and mics all over the house (downside with cams is they can be seen easily).
But what we really need are something like rape kits for domestic violence. How can I be put in jail for it if the victim has no signs of force and neither do I? If you really punch someone, it will show.
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xMB99 5y ago
Should have just went full beat down on her since he was going to be arrested anyway. Might as well make it count.
SKRedPill 5y ago
That guy should have immediately secured his assets, spoken to a lawyer and divorced her before she knew what was coming. If someone threatens you with the stuff you don't wish on your enemies, they've destroyed your trust.
Thunderbird93 5y ago
Bruh you don't know Massachusetts. Thats an easy 3 year bid in county jail. I knew guys when I was locked up doing that kind of time just for stealing cars, fucking up a chick? Bruhhhhhh