https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2018-11-02%20Kavanaugh%20Report.pdf
You have all seen the wild flurry of allegations. Feels over reals, on a country-wide level. Projection of their own experiences of "bad powerful man takes helpless woman" on a global scale. Here are the facts, a 28 page summary (and around 400 pages of exhibits) of the report that the authorities deem necessary with the election looming. It would be an injustice to summarise a summary.
But points of interest that I found :
- Dr. Ford and all the other accusers repeatedly made demands that would seem like attempts at obstruction of justice and obfuscation of the truth to anyone looking at it from an objective viewpoint. Yet, even as these blatant concessions (only these media outlets, only that date, and exactly how I like it) were made, the theatre of court decided against her.
- From the report itself : "evidence appears to support the position that Julie Swetnick and Mr. Avenatti criminally conspired to make materially false statements to the Committee and obstruct the Committee’s investigation. Accordingly, the Committee referred both to the Department of Justice and FBI for investigation and potential violations of 18 U.S.C. § 371, § 1001, and § 1505 on October 25, 2018." Rape has been an overused plot point for decades in movie-making. It's the one sticking point where we feel the most helpless and powerless as men, and the most relatable as women. Yet, tell women that it's possible that they might have used it as a political weapon? You get precedence of hashtags over providence of law.
- Even in the face of a federal investigative report, people are decrying the importance of the rule of law. "How do you know it's not just them closing ranks?" Well, how did you know the investigative media reports weren't just your political leaders closing ranks?
- No hashtags. No punitive damage, libel and slander recompense. No feminists in the distance. Christine laughs all the way to the bank, giving women the world over her fat middle finger with her goFundMe campaign. "Me too", she says, standing in the line of people cashing in their cheques.
Tl;dr - Of the four, one was retracted by the plaintiff admittedly being made up. No conclusions that point to sexual misconduct. In one case, criminal falsification charges are being pressed against the complainers.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
Will the AG do anything? Fuck no. The United States of America is a gynocracy now boys. We just live here.
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Cum_Victor 5y ago
The feminists have managed to completely self sabotage themselves again. Now, even actual victims will not be believed because of shit like this.
Kavanaugh is where he is supposed to be. It was a very defining moment in our society.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
Funny how they keep winning in the long run despite the fact that they seem so obviously stupid to us. Perhaps they are just playing a different game than us, and we are really the stupid ones.
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As JBP would say, this creates an "unstable hierarchy". Which is why feminism isn't that big of a problem in the long term. Feminism does, and will continue to, collapse everything it touches (workplace, university, politics, families) and sooner or later biology will take over and women will want to go back to the safety and predictability of the patriarchy, or men will just impose it (having learned not to give it up).
tubaflub 5y ago
U mUhSoGyNeSt!!1 hOw DaRe U nOt #BaLeVeAlLwImYns nOt ReAl FeMiNiSm!
woodquest 5y ago
Yeah but the damage is done. And the NPC agenda press won't be there to correct it.
In the end this is long term VS short term game.
MysterManager 5y ago
The powers that brought in the false Kavanaugh accusations did so out of the dark in a last minute attempt to derail his confirmation. They don’t give a fuck about right or wrong or anything for that matter. They only care about power. They use stuff like feminism as just another tool in a tool bag. If they thought sacrificing babies at an alter with a sledge hammer would give them what they wanted, it would be a bad day for babies.
Irish_Domination 5y ago
Its all just attempts at power, more originalists in the court means greater constraints on the government's power. Simple decision to pull anything they think will work to keep him out.
1TRUEKING 5y ago
I dont think it was the feminists that orchestrated this, rather it was the democratic leadership. I believe they tried their best to block the supreme court nomination through this metoo bullshit and using feminists and the liberal media to stop kavanaugh from getting the nod, the feminists were just too stupid to see how badly this could backfire on them lol.
EqualitysA2WayStreet 5y ago
Exactly. Women who claim themselves as masters of discourse were too busy being professional victims to realise they were the real victims this time, the one time they could have not chosen not to be.
tempolaca 5y ago
Make no mistake. Feminists were the girls from the 70's, fighting for real rights, like voting, and real equality.
The current feminism is the left. Communism with another name. That's why you never see a liberal or democrat being accused with #metoo, (coff coff Clinton coff coff).
Ramesses_ 5y ago
It's not the left it's the alt-left. You know, the ones who are against speech diversity. Time to isolate and shame the shit out of these morons before an entire side of the political spectrum is engulfed.
curtainthrower 5y ago
I am not a huge fan of Kavanaugh's politics, because I see him as a big-government neoconservative.
But with that being said, I was very happy to see the results of this whole shit-show. It would have set another very dangerous legal precedent in our society if Dr. Ford's MeToo shit went thru.
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Yeah I don't like him either but I am glad false accusations didn't win.
EqualitysA2WayStreet 5y ago
#believeAllWomen is the same as saying #dontBelieveAnyFacts in this case.
I admire the man's conviction to go through the entire process. His political schtick is his own. His plight is all of ours. Protect yourselves, men.
Ramesses_ 5y ago
Believe all women. Somewhat self defeating logic as seen here.
killabeesindafront 5y ago
https://pics.me.me/believe-women-believe-women-belie-wome-remember-when-you-read-36680796.png
leftajar 5y ago
This was the whole point of #believeher and #metoo.
Kavanaugh was the test case -- can they use an utterly fabricated sexual assault claim to derail a Supreme Court nomination?
Even if it didn't work, now fully 40% of the country thinks that the Supreme Court is illegitimate, that any 5-4 ruling is illegitimate, that the rule of law is illegitimate.
The Democrats are playing a very fucking dangerous game. Sure, they lost this round, but America has been set irrevocably on a very dark path.
nebder 5y ago
Its right in front of us. Very few are noticing the destruction of this once great empire. I talk with men and women and you get a lot of I just don’t understand politics but they can tell me all about dancing with the stars or this is us.
I sound like a gd conspiracy nut nowadays. I question myself. Am I nuts? Am I reading to deeply into coincidence and happenstance. Do I need some sort of bogeyman to set up as my nemesis? Is it just coming out in the open enough to start connecting dots? I know it’s frankly a scary situation for our future.
I love smoking weed. I believe that the weed legalization sweeping across the US is both for the state revenue and the easy control of potheads. Potheads just dgaf about much besides new strains of this or that, the new edible or vape or what have you. Easy to control and influence the sedate masses with a little smoke and the right tv shows. jfc this is us would’ve started riots 30-40 years ago.
I didn’t recognize your handle so I checked out your history. The post and comments on your dirty whore women post is spot on and golden.
silentlyfurious 5y ago
So, are you saying that you are like one of these sedated masses?
Bit confused with the contradiction here
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leftajar 5y ago
Thanks bro. I had some pretty good insights back in the day. Still do, but I don't feel inspired to share them as much now; the sub has long passed its golden era.
You're not nuts: the world is nuts. Search YouTube for Yuri Bezmenov if you want to know what's really happening in America.
ScratchinCommander 5y ago
Good video, the guy explains how schools were infiltrated with Marxist values and now we have millions of useful idiots roaming the US like Zombies with their iPhones and Starbucks Frappuxxino
nebder 5y ago
I checked out some of Yuri Bezmenov. That is heavy shit right there.
TRP as a sub is effectively dead with the quarantine. The benefit of being on reddit was easily bringing in fresh blood organically from the reddit user base. That’s no longer viable.
The community may be able to transition to trp-red. It won’t be quite the same as reddit in gaining traction.
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korben_manzarek 5y ago
This paragraph was very hard to read, some points:
Accusations, accusers?
Which concessions? You don't talk about any.
Do you mean obstruction of justice?
EqualitysA2WayStreet 5y ago
Made edits, thanks for pointing it out. Mobile is not a great place to write posts. Also, the repeated evasions of any real attempts at discerning the truth are numerous, and included throughout the report. I encourage everyone to go through it once, to find out how the left plays its game. In one instance, a woman keeps slandering the FBI in the media for not listening to her, while rejecting their call, and coming up with nothing in the end.
PapaGeorgio23 5y ago
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/senate-judiciary-committee-releases-full-brett-kavanaugh-report-no-evidence-to-back-sexual-assault-claims look at this as well. What's disgusting to me is how only 1 or 2 accusers will face punishment, the rest just got away after commiting prejury.
EqualitysA2WayStreet 5y ago
That is, if they face punishment. We all know how the double standards go.
cmdrNacho 5y ago
It's because the GOP didn't allow for a full investigation and stopped it.
RatMan29 5y ago
Not just one. Judy Munro-Leighton has admitted she was lying, too. She lives in Kentucky and had never met Kavanaugh.
Mr_KenSpeckle 5y ago
Good grief, you folks are gullible...or cynical. This is not an FBI report. This is a Republican authored document released days before the election. This post is purely political and has nothing to do with TRP. TRP should be apolitical.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
He never said it's an FBI report. It's the report of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Is the FBI somehow better? They seem pretty political these days.
Wake up dumbass. It's become political whether you like it or not.
textualintercourse 5y ago
Let's concede your point.
But I raise you the woman who literally claimed he raped her, just to literally recant and say THEY HAD NEVER FUCKING MET! She did it because she was "angry". FUCK that woman to the pit of the 9nth circle of hell I don't believe in.
untitled56 5y ago
This was a very public red pilling of the entire American population at once. It has already been definitively shown that at least one woman of the four lied in an attempt to ruin a man's career and reputation.
What most Americans now realize is this can happen to anyone. This should be plastered on the front page of this sub.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
Apparently not since we lost the House. I think it's time for everyone who hasn't accepted reality yet to understand that the America they think they live in no longer exists.
chrisname 5y ago
She recanted the accusation. I do think false rape accusations come under the purview of TRP.
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The_LongJohnDon 5y ago
How is this not related to TRP? A woman with little to no credibility whatsoever almost destroyed the culmination of an innocent man’s life work. Everyone should be concerned when ass clowns in power are starting to say show me the man and I’ll find the crime. This does not set a good precedent at all. You’re missing the point completely.
Also, do you honestly believe the FBI is not partisan at this point?
Mr_KenSpeckle 5y ago
Which woman are you talking about that has little or no credibility? Your man Trump said that he found Ford very credible (until he didn't).
Yes, I believe the FBI is not partisan, if by that you mean biased in favor of Democrats. The FBI is actually top-heavy with lifelong Republicans. The fact that the FBI does not always go along with all the Trump zaniness de jure does not make them Democractic partisans.
There are no TRP principles discussed in the OP. It just a political rant, and on specious grounds at that.
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Imperator_Red 5y ago
What is with you fucking few TRPers that are lefties? Do you understand that if your compadres knew you were on TRP they would crucify you? You are like the Dave Chapelle black white-supremacist - you belong to a group that hates you.
Mr_KenSpeckle 5y ago
I don't belong to a group. "Lefty". LMAO. Not adhering unquestioningly to the orthodoxy makes one a lefty, I guess. I notice you, like your brethren, didn't respond to the substance of my comment.
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NeedingAdvice86 5y ago
You are one gullible fool.
I have someone who says you are a disgusting pedophile but I am not going to tell you when, where or anything but that it happened? The four people who I claimed were there said it never happened and the best friend of the victim says she never met you but I am "credible" so you are a fucking pedophile....now defend yourself.
What a tool...credible my ass.
MrTrizzles 5y ago
This whole thing is so fucked up.
The basic allegations against K. are almost undoubtedly true (there was physical contact but it was hardly a rape attempt), but that nor even his excessive drinking in college should be disqualifying.
But then he turns around and disqualified himself with his own words, showing himself to be hopelessly partisan, dishonest and not even a particularly clear thinker.
He “lost frame” in other words.
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NeedingAdvice86 5y ago
Bhahahahahah.....lame.
You know you sound like you are shouting that from Diane Feinstein's V....the old tired "Yes, we know we were full of shit accusing this qualified man of being a rapist 35 years ago but you know his "demeanor" means he is not qualified though he has held every important position possible in the US judicial system".
Idiocy for regurgitating such utter bullshit because your political puppeteers spouted the shit on TV....fucking morons.
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Balegrim 5y ago
Or we could just pick a judge who would sail through these proceedings without any allegations. Plenty of justices and conservative presidents who never had sexual assault allegations. But heyo. Conspiracy and shit stains is your people, apparently.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
Kavanaugh DIDN'T have any allegations until days before the Senate was scheduled for their final vote, you colossal fucking retard.
Balegrim 5y ago
Umm, if I were a rape victim the day I'd come forward would probably be to fuck my rapist out of occupying one of the highest offices in the land. At that point dealing with the shame practically becomes a civic duty you colossal retard. XD
sonder_one 5y ago
There is no such judge. The reason there had been some in the past is that the Democrats of the past were not like the Democrats of today.
But please, keep whining about conspiracy theories in support of a party that believes in patriarchy, corporate illuminati, Russian collusion, and that everything anyone who disagrees with them ever says is a dog whistle for racism.
Balegrim 5y ago
I'm actually asking you guys to quit whining about conspiracy theories, because you all don't believe there are conservative judges who could get through a nomination without a sexual assault allegations. I'm sorry but if you believe every conservative judge pick will be falsely accused of sexual assault to screw their career you believe in some liberal Sorros Illuminati shit. XD
So if you're ready to start being rational and accept that not every conservative judge will be hit with an allegation like this I can stop treating you like paranoid whiners.
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cmdrNacho 5y ago
Can we keep politics out of this sub. I find the entire premise of this post ridiculous. As Wohl and Burkman are proving the point right now, it's complete bullshit to just find women to lie about this.
The reality is everyone of these people you mentioned wanted a full FBI investigation. It was the GOP and their leadership and that didn't allow it.
Do some women lie, yes. Are they willing to lie in front of a Senate hearing and under FBI investigation with serious consequences is questionable but Ford does have a family and is a professor at a prestigious school. Are you seriously implying she would put all that at risk for a political motive. Avenattis client works in the federal government. You'd have to be stupid to think that's true
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nebder 5y ago
Why not lead by example if you want to keep politics out of the sub.
Your comment is clearly leftwing narrative manipulation.
NPC#113578332257 says ORANGE MAN BAD
cmdrNacho 5y ago
yes obviously left wing narrative when this whole cooky conspiracy relies on the fact that the GOP won't go after the accusers because the truth will come out
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Cum_Victor 5y ago
They could have had a full investigation if Senator Feinstein brought this forward back in July instead of it being the last minute.
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rambler429 5y ago
No you wouldn't have to be "stupid to think that's true". Do you realize how much money this woman had thrown at her for doing this? People will give up a lot of things for the almighty dollar. People aren't principled anymore.
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cmdrNacho 5y ago
where is this so called money and why can't the GOP with Wohl land Burkman find someone to take down Mueller if it's so easy
Imperator_Red 5y ago
She had a million in two separate gofundmes. Do you feel stupid now?
cmdrNacho 5y ago
Do you feel even more stupid in believing that it's a fake after Wohl and Burkman look like complete idiots trying to pay women to lie and realizing it doesn't work
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Incel9876 5y ago
'Nothing to Gain,' Kavanaugh Accuser Raises Nearly $1 Million:
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2018/10/27/nothing_to_gain_kavanaugh_accusers_coffers_are_growing.html
Mueller Accused Of Sexual Assault; Says Women Were "Offered Money" To Make "False Claims":
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-30/mueller-says-women-were-offered-money-make-false-claims-against-him
Turn around is fair play, like when Trump brought all the women who claimed Bill Clinton assaulted/raped him to the Presidential debates with Hilarly.
cmdrNacho 5y ago
Also what is the first thing Mueller did when he heard about these allegations he handed then over to the FBI. This is what an innocent man would do
Mr_KenSpeckle 5y ago
So, in conclusion, what we have here is a classic case of projection. Your side would do it without compunction, so the other side MUST be doing it too.
cmdrNacho 5y ago
You far right people are wackos. This was only after the far right cult sent death threats. It was money raised to protect her family with full transparency. It's not like emailing them to falsely accused someone for payment. Not even remotely the same thing.
Trump is fucking recorded saying Grab em by the pussy and in divorce fillings was accused of rape.
soulmysold 5y ago
I'm sorry, you're very stupid.
cmdrNacho 5y ago
You're the one that believes in those cooky conspiracy theories, the whole argument of this post is these women are getting away with lieing because the GOP won't have a real investigation. You're stupid to believe that they are just getting away with perjury in front of the Senate. Moron
rambler429 5y ago
It's not a "conspiracy theory" when the whole thing is totally within the realm of real possibility. People lie for money ALL THE TIME, even when the stakes aren't nearly as high. YOU'RE the naïve one if you think it couldn't happen.
cmdrNacho 5y ago
Then why haven't Wohl and Burkman found anyone to lie to the FBI.... it happens so much. Really so you think someone that's a professor at a prestigious school and family, would go in front of the Senate to lie and face a penalty of jail time for a payout over political motivation?
If it's so obvious she lied for a payout why isn't the GOP going after after her to make an example out of her??? Why don't they call for a full FBI investigation???
yes women will lie, but based on everything that's happened it's clear the GOP don't want the truth to come out
Mr_KenSpeckle 5y ago
cmdrNacho makes four factual assertions:
These are four factual assertions. They are objectively verifiable. And in response, you've got...nothing.
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Incel9876 5y ago
Leftists make false claims, and false death threats against themselves, all the time.
That's the Mueller defence, but more like the reality that every conservative male faces. You know the difference between the Mueller accusations and those made against Kavanaugh? Those made against Mueller include date, location (St. Regis Hotel in Manhattan, New York City, NY), and are relatively recent (8 years versus 30).
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1222879/pg1
Trump was recorded bragging about how women let him grab them by the pussy, want him to do it. You being a brainwashed Leftist think this amounts to admitting to sexual assault, which means you have no place here, since by the same Leftist thinking, all redpill game/frame is sexual assault or akin to it.
Marital - consent until recently, therefore you can't rape your wife by defintion. Moreover, women lie about such things all the time, which Democrats try to deny, BelieveAllWomen (Ignore all Evidence, Believe All Lies) except when their own are accused, such as Bill Clinton, Mueller, etc. Conservatives operate on things like due process, not accusations made decades later, for political gain and profit.
Four lies, easily disproven. You and commanderNacho had nothing.
Mr_KenSpeckle 5y ago
Point 1: still no facts, just worn out slogans
Point 2: The very website that published the allegations has taken them down and disavowed them. Plus, the relative age of the allegations has nothing to do with whether or not the accusers were offered money to make the allegations. Further, notice that Ford showed up to her hearing. The supposed Mueller accusers never showed for the press conference. No facts contradicting the original point.
Point 3: Trump said I don't wait, I just start kissing...grab them by the pussy. Granted, he said they let you do it but, in context, he is talking about kissing and grabbing without asking and what choice does a woman have when he has already done it? Textbook assault. Again, no facts contradicting the original point.
Point 4: The original point was that Ivana accused Donald of raping her. That's a fact that you have not contradicted. Instead you say marital rape was legal until recently and women lie. Marital rape was criminalized in New York in 1984. According to Ivana, Donald raped her in 1989. This was discussed in a 1993 book. By the way, Ivana's allegations were made sooner to the event than the would-be allegations against Mueller, so I am sure you will be totally consistent and believe them since you apparently believe the Mueller allegations.
Just as an aside, what the fuck kind of defense is it to say, oh well, marital rape was legal then? (which it wasn't) Is that what we have come to?
So just to review, four assertions, no facts provided by you. despite multiple chances.
Regarding whether or not I belong on Red Pill, if you represent what Red Pill is about, then you are absolutely right, I don't. But I don't think you do represent what Red Pill is about. I think you are a self-professed incel who migrated here with the incel forum was shut down. I think you are a child regardless of your age. And I think there is a vast middle ground between blue haired SJWs on the one hand and what you represent on the other hand.
I won't be responding to you further. I'll let you rant into the void.
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