Summary : Pulled a number and got a couple make-outs from an HB6, but a lack of true abundance led me to focus too much on her, leading to a crash and burn.
Body : First, a bit of backstory: I've been working in Afghanistan for a few years, and been Red Pill aware for a little over two. For any vets, you know how bad the pussy situation gets out here: a real world 6 becomes the most popular girl on base, simply because the male:female ratio is about 100:1. Due to this, I usually don't bother with trying to pull girls out here and just get my fill while I'm on vacation.
A few weeks ago, I see this legitimate cutie (real world 6, so like a 9 out here) waiting for her coworkers outside of the cafeteria. I very loosely work in the same organization as this girl, and have talked to her once before with fairly positive results. When I say fairly loosely, I mean she's been here for about 5 or 6 months and this is the second time I've seen her. She sees me walking towards her and waves, so being that I'm not a complete faggot I go up and talk to her. Long story short, I run some pretty solid attraction (tease, push/pull, swapping sunglasses, long hand shake, standing hip to hip to compare boot sizes, etc.) and grab her phone number before I go. At this point I'm feeling like an absolute pimp. She's got a nice body and would definitely be plate material back home, but in the mind-fuck that's the deployed environment, my lizard brain sees her as being the hottest girl I've ever talked to.
Over the next week we text a bit, and again I run pretty solid game. I limit my texting, break rapport often, flirt and challenge, send non-sequiturs as compliance tests, and sometimes just ignore her. We set a meet for her day off. I pick her up, and after hitting the shop on base I take her to my (secluded, private) place of work. After about 20 minutes of increasing kino and heavy eye contact, I pull her in for a kiss. Very strong response, passionate, etc. I come up for air every few minutes and take a break, and each time go back in and make a bit more progress. Eventually I pick her up by her ass and she wraps her legs around me, I'm kissing her neck and chest and she's moaning and bites my shoulder, leaving a mark through my sweatshirt. She has some bullshit class to go to with her friend, so I take her back home and drop her off. The next night we meet up outside my barracks when she comes to pick up her sunglasses that she left in the truck. It's fucking freezing, but I walk her over to a gazebo and we start making out again. I'm rubbing her pussy through her pants (crotch is soaking wet) and she's stroking my dick through my sweats (I'm not wearing underwear). Finally the cold is unbearable and we part ways.
The whole week after this I'm thinking about her nearly non-stop. I haven't been obsessive about a girl for years, since before I found out about TRP and had my big breakthrough. I'm daydreaming, fantasizing, projecting onto her, basically all the dumb shit you did when you were a True Blue Beta. Contrast this with my last vacation, where I was at home spinning plates for 2 months and actually turning down Tinder dates. I almost NEVER thought about any particular girl other than for logistical purposes, i.e. when can I fit this bitch into my schedule to come over for a dicking. Anyway, a couple days before her next day off, I set up another date. I plan on going all the way for the pussy, or at least getting some head. I basically say 'pick you up x day at 6', and she doesn't say yes or no, just continues with the conversation. Again, I let it die for over a day. She texts me later with 'Happy New Year!' and after some flirting, I say 'see you tomorrow, try not to miss me too much' to which she replies 'lol I'll try not to'. This is where shit seems to go south, although it was probably earlier. We text a bit in the morning of her day off, then I ignore her for the rest of the day until it's time to go pick her up.
Me: I'm on my way, be outside in a few min
Her: I'm not even dressed. Hahaha.
Me: straight faced emoji
switch to whatsapp
10 min later
Her: Damn you and your flip-flopping apps. Hahaha. Whennnn?
20 min later
Me: ready
another 20 min
her: lol you're just going to have to go eat without me tonight
(at this point I'm getting irritated.)
Me: I already ate. Are you coming out tonight
her: Lol ooh well shucks. and idkkk.
Me: aw you had your lil heart set on eating with me. so romantic. dont worry, I eat two dinners (which is true). bring the candles
her: lol. Yeah, Yeaaa.
I ignore this and head back to my room. It seems to me like she's playing games, and this was already an hour and fifteen minutes after we were supposed to meet. The next morning I come in and check my phone, and see that she sent me three emojis that I can only describe as a grimace: eyes closed and a straight mouth with teeth showing. She sent this an hour and a half after her last message. A few hours later, right as her shift starts she sends
her: Tonight is going to be the worst shift ever. (followed by 3 more grimace faces)
I read the message so I know she gets the read receipt, but I ignore. 30 min later she sends:
her: Well you're no help. Lol.
Again, I ignore her. That was 3 days ago, and I haven't talked to her since. Looking back, I thought perhaps my over-eagerness translated through texting which made her feel comfortable enough to employ such a massive shit test. Reading through our message history, I don't really see a change in tone or frequency between pre-makeout and post-makeout. Either way, it caused me to analyze my approach and I think I've learned a lot with this experience.
Lessons Learned
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Abundance mentality without actual, true abundance is difficult to achieve and maintain. Yes, you can fake it till you make it, but eventually your anxiety will bleed through and you'll slip up. When you ACTUALLY DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT HER, it shows in even the most subtle ways and increases her attraction to you.
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Fuck trying to be 'natural'. For the last few years, I haven't really cared to learn much about or employ game in my interactions with women. I felt that being 6'4", well built, handsome and armed with TRP knowledge was enough to carry my interactions with women. And it was, back home where the playing field is stacked a bit more in my favor. Out here, trying to fuck what is essentially a 9, without any sort of abundance of pussy on my part, being natural doesn't fly. I realize that if I'm going to be successful with top-tier women, I must constantly, actively game them. Some of you may think it's dirty and manipulative and that alpha males don't use game, they just do whatever they want in the moment, but think about this: whoever you are, even if you're Chad Thundercock himself, you can be fucking better looking women if you learn and use game. It's like steroids; sure you might be a great athlete naturally, but with a bit of exogenous testosterone, you could play at a whole new level. Is it cheating? Who the fuck cares, sexual strategy is
immoralamoral. Do what you gotta do. - Picking up girls on a military base in Afghanistan is an uphill battle. In the rain. At night. With 50 lbs of gear on your back. Did I mention the hill is a giant sand dune, and the enemy is dug in like an Alabama tick? Bitches out here have so many options and access it's ridiculous. This girl is literally the hottest girl every where she goes on this base, and she knows it. She constantly gets the attention of field grade officers, fighter pilots, special forces operators, you name it. If you're going to play the game here, you've gotta be playing at the highest level possible, but if you CAN make it here, the real world will seem easy by comparison.
End Note This is my first submission, please feel free to critique my formatting.
thenemaxofredpill 8y ago
Damn you were thirsty as fuck. You have zero abundance mentality. You can get abundance mentality from having actual hobbies and not just having other women. Just quit caring about women and find something you are passionate about. Wood working....surfing....building websites....making Youtube videos...etc. Just quit worrying about women.
And quit with the gay ass emojis.
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[deleted] 8y ago
This sounds like a hard but not impossible situation to me, especially given that you seem to have played it reasonably well thus far. If you're still interested in fucking her simply because there's no other viable pussy where you are I'd say you still have a fair chance.
Dread is hard to induce when she knows your options are limited but not impossible-- your phone is your best friend here, use it to your advantage. If you're with her again look at it from time to time, smile and let her draw her own conclusions about what's on there and when she inevitably asks (they always ask), brush it off. She suddenly has competition. It's some cheeky fucking game but it's the best option you've got that I can see.
Granted, back home we both know you'd soft-next her for pulling this shit and that remains an option as well.
animal_one 8y ago
Good idea. This is something that would naturally happen back home spinning plates, so why not artificially recreate the situation and induce a little dread? This is what I mean by 'actively game'. Thanks.
royal_fucktard 8y ago
I did an experiment once and made a fake FB profile of a hott military female and set my location to the base I was serving at in Kuwait. I can't say I was surprised when I started receiving hundreds of messages from all the dudes on post.
Coming from a military bg myself; I don't even waste my time with girls like this with 1000 orbiters. That being said, this type of woman gets downgraded which in turn makes me not GAF.
I truly believe many women with generally low SMV (HB5/6) join the military and/or go on tours like this simply because they know their chances of bagging a real Chad are better. The scarcity mentality is real in the military and especially when you're in the AOR.
animal_one 8y ago
For sure. I look at some of the ugly Army broads out here, and just know that if they weren't in the military they wouldn't ever get any good dick.
complex21 8y ago
Validation, Validation, Validation.
That's all you were. She was very content at you being her validation tool that she could string along and you fell into it.
She wants you to be her beta orbiter. I would cut off all contact.
animal_one 8y ago
Yeah, I considered she may just be a tease that gives a little taste and then sees how far she can string a guy along.
poochman 8y ago
Seems like you had a shot at slamming it out right then and there. Should have got her inside and went for it man. Perhaps not following through turned her off a bit I don't know.
animal_one 8y ago
Logistics are an absolute nightmare in Afghanistan. Opposite sex isn't allowed in your barracks. I've snuck girls into my room before, but hadn't built enough comfort or trust with this one to where she would come in yet.
DoubleTappp 8y ago
Afghanistan; Experiences may vary.....
MattyAnon Admin 8y ago
The correct response to this is "don't bother getting dressed", it reads to me like this was a major flirt and not a "I'm not ready" thing.
So you ignoring her and playing hard to get is just making you miss out and her feel rejected.
But hell who knows... she might well have decided how this was gonna go with you long before. You know how women are. Get some in vacation time again :)
animal_one 8y ago
You may be right, but I definitely should have used that line.
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darkmoon09 8y ago
Hookers can come in handy here, it'll at least help you keep balanced as you continue to improve your game.
animal_one 8y ago
Prostitution is illegal here, and I'm on a military base, so that's out of the question. Otherwise, I wouldn't hesitate to bone a few hookers.
darkmoon09 8y ago
So what if it's illegal? people still do it. Avoid backpage, only contact well-reviewed providers, do outcall, etc. Unless your military base is somewhere far away from a moderately sized metropolitan area you shouldn't run into too much trouble hiring some hookers if you tread carefully.
animal_one 8y ago
I'm not sneaking off base in a country that we're at war with just to get my dick wet.
darkmoon09 8y ago
Oh, so you're in a 'hot zone'..I get you now. I assumed you were stationed home somewhere.
animal_one 8y ago
'Hot' is definitely right. The Taliban has been on a crazy offensive the last month.
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[deleted] 8y ago
She's only good for practicing game. Once stateside your game should be rock solid.
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[deleted] 8y ago
Sexual strategy is not immoral. It's amoral.
It doesn't actively go against morals, it just transcends them because they are a superficial element of existence.
animal_one 8y ago
Yeah, just a misspelling. Thanks
TheJatt 8y ago
Just lie to a girl. Just tell a girl you chat up on Tinder or something that you get laid with really hot girls and show her some random pics. Then you have all the power and can walk away any moment, and she'll think of you as some high SMV guy.
Building on this: If you tell a girl you never get laid and haven't had sex in weeks, then she'll drop you. She'll see why you haven't gotten laid and judge you like that.
Playing on confirmation bias here.