Summary: Virgins exist. Crazy Sluts and Virgins both have their role in your harem and you shouldn't hate them for being what they are.
Background: I used to be Chad from the time I was 14 until I was 35. I didn't realize it at the time but other people used to comment that I seemed to get laid like James Bond and nobody could figure out how I did it. [Tall, skinny, funny, and spit tight game.]
I didn't even realize there were so many guys out there not getting laid at all and that there was a whole pecking order of Alphas and Betas and Omegas until I started reading here. Now I'm married with children and thank you guys for this sub or I would have destroyed my marriage through BP Beta-bitchification, by trying to live up to the Disney Prince Charming Husband bullshit, which as we know here destroys marriages.
Body: There's a couple of ideas that I have on maintaining soft harems and spinning plates that I have not seen discussed here. So I hope that some of these tips will be helpful to you RP Brothers.
Crazy/bad/uncontrollable girls/Carousel Riders First of all, I see way too much insta-nexting of girls who exhibit bad behavior. You already know AWALT. So why are you upset when you find out your non-snowflake used to be a slut or texts some other guy or had sex at a party? You should be going for safe-sex unless you are trying to deliberately get your girls pregnant. You should expect your girl to give you shit-tests mercilessly because AWALT. Thus when you discover the hot girl you're on a date with storms off in a rage for some stupid reason (because she's BPD, drama, drama, drama!) you don't get stressed out over it, you let go and let her come back and have sex with you week after week.
Why? Because you aren't phased by drama and you know that you will have hot sex with her later. If you do it right, the same girl can be fucking you on the side for months or years while she gets in and out of stupid relationships. You're not her husband, what do you care? Keep her around like a stripper or model or prostitute who wants to perform for you for free.
It's a pretty good deal, right? This costs you nothing to keep her "on retainer", let her go and come back as long as you're getting the hot sex you want out of the deal. You don't even need to talk to her about it or mention her bad behavior, just go out with somebody else while she sorts her crazy out or wrecks some poor Beta's life. These girls require zero-investment, and are great fun when they're fun. Let them come and go as they please. If you have an honest nature, you can tell them you talked to a therapist and found out that you have a personality disorder that makes it impossible for you to commit to a serious relationship, and that you don't want her to have the wrong idea about you because your personality is damaged, but that you love being with her and having her as your sexy fuckbunny and that nobody can take that away from the two of you. The key thing to keep in mind with these girls is that you never actually have to leave them or break-up with them, because they are unstable and will keep spinning out of your orbit sooner or later. Enjoy the fun while it lasts. Many of these girls will be crazy artists, actresses, models, etc.
Virgins, Low N-Count Girls Believe it or not, they exist, and it's your job to keep them around keep fucking them until they decide to marry a Beta or you decide (foolishly) that you're at a point in your life that you want to be married with children. Often these girls will be very serious and won't have time for a relationship because they are working on some important goal like finishing Medical School or their PhD or curing cancer. If they have been in a relationship, it's with some pathetic Beta that wasted too much of their precious time being clingy, and they had to dump him because he wouldn't leave them alone when they had some important presentation or qualifying exam to prepare for.
Many of these girls have never even been on dates because they were studying so hard in high-school to get into Harvard or wherever it is that you find them. You won't find them in the bars giving blowjobs to Chad because they're too busy. You're going to have to teach them how to give you blowjobs yourself. These girls have their own money and mission and they aren't impressed with Betas, who they are surrounded by in their departments. So your only competition is against their busy schedule, which you don't care about because you have your own soft harem to keep you entertained. You should expect to be able to have sex with these sorts of girls on the regular but always let them keep their important academic commitments. You don't really have to go out on "dates" with them, you just show up before bedtime to tuck them in and make sure they get a good nights sleep and properly laid before the important presentation to the National Cancer Society or whatever mission they're into.
You don't have to leave these girls either because they will move to another city for residency or to become a tenure-track professor or whatever it is they are going to do. They should be grateful to you for all the love and sex and affection you provide, and you don't have to spend any money on them at all because they don't have the time or interest to be in a real relationship. It's not your fault if they become alpha widows. These women will go on to have important careers and probably get married to some impressive beta and then divorced, but that's the world that we're living in. If you go to any big national university you will find plenty of these sorts of women, and they're not at the Frat Party. They will require a little more up-front salesmanship because they're actually not looking for a relationship and if they ever did have one before it is almost guaranteed to have been bad (and with a Beta from their department).
TLDR:
1.Don't get upset with a slut for acting like a slut. These girls have their place in your roster for when you want to get laid on Tuesday night.
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If you want a virgin for LTR, you're going to have to go and find her because she's not looking for a relationship and she's extremely busy working on something serious and has almost no free time for frivolity. It's your job to train her and fill her precious free time with valuable sex.
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Both types of women will provide you with decades of fun and entertainment until you decide that you're burned out on being a player and ready to go into the next phase of your life.
- Expect the women in your harem to leave you for a beta as they age-out and demand to "settle down" to boredom and misery. Never let them move in with you or lock you down.
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Troll_Name 8y ago
Thanks for pointing this out. I'll probably still (mentally) insta next the next chick who gets on my nerves, but I'll try to add in a brief cooldown phase where I'm committed to leaving but not gone yet. Just stop giving the bitch anything, and hope she swings to another branch instead of going into full blown Hell Hath No Fury mode because she got P&D'd.
ItIsMyPrivilege 8y ago
Honestly, yeah even if you gotta fake deal with a girls crazy nature, as long as she isn't giving your herpes, aids, or kids, yolo ride it out.
Especially if you're working on your SMV and don't plan on LTR or marriage anytime soon
always-be-closing 8y ago
Between Teachman, Kahn and London, Maul, et al.
it should be clear to any man who intends to have a long term relationship that low partner count, young, feminine women whose singular attention greatly simplifies your life via their domesticity are the only reason to become exclusive to any woman for some amount of time, and that there are effectively no suitable women for marriage, unless you have a habit of running into late teen, early 20s virgins raised by a mother and a father who emotionally nurtured her and raised her conservatively in a family oriented environment and instilled some sense of morality into her head.
I don't know about you, but it doesn't look like 1952 where I'm standing.
Troll_Name 8y ago
The 50s were some of the swinging-est years of the 20th century. You just never heard about it on TV, or radio, or in newspapers. Every young man wanted to get a car, so he could take girls to dinner and a movie where you stayed inside your car. Mass media was rated-G at the time, so people assume real life was too.
Has real life ever been the same as what the invisible narrators make it out to be? Think about the narrative today and compare it to real life. Bluepill gets you happily ever after, women are innocent, men need to suppress themselves so everybody can be happy.
crackalot 8y ago
There was some loosening in the 50s but the so-called sexual revolution didn't truly start until the 60s, and then only on upper-middle-class college campuses. It took quite a while to metastasize to the rest of society after that.
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Physio_Tool 8y ago
Yea, I grew up in Missouri around several religious girls who waited until marriage and got married out of High school young and now have happy families. I take it by probabilities, most of these TRP dudes here who only encounter sluts are from metropolitan cities where religion is less emphasised. Plus, when you fuck a chick, you're more likely to fuck a slut then a reserved chick
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Venicedreaming 8y ago
Truth, I know a few also. Majority of them are nurses that went to a women's nursing school. No guys around to fuck haha
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Rathadin 8y ago
I have a close friend from my time in the Navy who is in the same boat I'm in... we're both rather conservative, he goes so far as to say he's a Republican... and we're both staunch atheists.
Naturally, you can see the dilemma. I don't understand why conservatism needs to make bedfellows with fairy tales and snake oil salesmen, but it apparently does.
Although at the current rate of liberalism of modern Christianity, you'd expect conservatives to abandon it, but that hasn't been the case.
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You won't find the virgins at the bar on ladies' night or doing keg stands on fraternity row.
I for one don't mind sluts. In fact I really like them. Without sluts a lot of guys would never get laid and they at least know what they are doing in bed.
Sure, a fresh unopened can of Coke is better than an opened can that has had 9 dicks in it, but to be quite honest with you, I just wouldn't believe a woman if she said she was a virgin. You can't prove it and almost always you find that she's had anal, or sucked dick, or fucked herself with dildos.
There are no virgins that are of legal age unless they are fat and hideous.
EpsonXP100 8y ago
I slept wroth a 21 year old gym bunny. She was a Virgin. There's exceptions to every rule.
SirNemesis 8y ago
I'm considering going the below legal age and try to groom her to keep her virginity for me till she turns legal.
aazav 8y ago
They may not be around the places where he is.
FWIW, I go off to Africa for young cute Dutch girls who have no idea what the fuck a Kardashian is.
sqerl 8y ago
A RP guide to "where to travel" would be a good post. Time for me to get some plane tickets.
notgivefuck 8y ago
"World's best virgins - destinations available in this pamphlet!"
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I'm going to one of the best universities in my country, I've encountered sluts, sluts and sluts. Been looking for a nice quiet girl but unless you're looking at a hb3 almost every girl gets wasted during the weekend and certainly isn't an unicorn. Mind you, this is at a university where the top .1% of the country attends.
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That's precisely the problem.
The time of girl that was raised conservatively in a family oriented environment isn't going to go to Yale or Harvard. She's not trying to climb the corporate ladder or be the next Hillary Clinton, she's much more likely to be found at her local nursing programme or teaching Kindergarten than at one of the best universities in the country. A conservative, family minded girl isn't likely to leave her family and hometown to fly thousands of miles away so she can party and fuck dudes for four years...it isn't gonna happen.
That's not to say that there aren't conservative, family-minded women at élite universities, just that it will by definition be much more uncommon.
rpscrote 8y ago
Yup. Go to inexpensive but well reviewed state colleges to find em
Zachar1a 8y ago
Huh? Big state schools tend to be bigger party schools than the elite private universities. At Harvard & Yale, kids are studying way too much to be able to party very much.
rpscrote 8y ago
Big state schools aren't the ones I'm talking about, but you could get some traction there too
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The conservative girl that is raised by a mother and father that kept her on a leash is bound to slut out if she moves out and goes to university, rather. I've seen it with my ex, I've seen it with plates. Girls that go to Church with their parents and grandparents on Sunday, when 6 hours before that they were blowing some guy.
It's fucked up, because I got really disillusioned with the idea of a happily ever after, since even these type of girls say they "want to experiment" and fuck around, when you expect way, way more of them.
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I think that's a stereotype which, while there is some truth to it, nonetheless isn't 100% accurate. I know plenty of conservative, religious types who stay that way despite going to uni and plenty who are more sexually liberal and willing to experiment. I'd say it's more a 50-50 shot whether one or the other happens.
Troll_Name 8y ago
University: what you get when you take several thousand teenagers fresh out of high school, then declare once and for all that they no longer require adult supervision.
Physio_Tool 8y ago
I think you nailed it. These stereotypes are more polarizing and thus people are more likely to latch on to them rather then see that its more likely shades of grey than black and white. Yes some chicks will just slut it up after Catholic High School in uni. But there's plenty who go to uni, will join a prudish sorority (there's slutty sororities and prudish ones), and stick to the FCA crowd. But none of our TRP brethren encounter these girls because they aren't going to church to meet them and these chicks are not out at The Monkey Bar blowing Chads in the single stall at 2am. If you want a chick like this, don't bitch about how they don't exist, you need to accept that you need to make sacrifices that will strain your current lifestyle (i.e. not being able to ONS her, waiting to have sex with the chick past 3 dates, actually texting or calling between dates that is not just to set up logistics, actually going on dates with her, meeting her family, etc...). Shit that sounds beta but is a must for these girls cause they want stability and commitment.
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What were the prudish sororities at your school? Def not tri delta I'm guessing
Wumpus1 8y ago
I like how you remind us to stay low investment and just enjoy what we can, while we can. One of my main strategies to really enjoying life is to stay in a state of low investment. One can never be really disappointed when the input of effort was low. Makes it very easy to always see the bright side of things.
It is interesting as well that you remind us of where you can find virgins. In fact, through day gaming at my school I actually found a nice cute blonde who claimed to be a virgin. The teethy BJ confirmed but still I never thought I would come across such a person at the largest public university in the country. I really have come to love day game because of the wide variety of women that it makes available to you.
Anyway, thank you for sharing your thoughts, Real life chad. haha
aazav 8y ago
Crazy nexting? How about don't surround yourself with crazy as a concept. If a chick shows nutjob behaviour the quicker the better to get rid of her.
It's not mentally healthy for you to keep mentally unstable or unhinged people around you, be they chicks or guys.
You inherit the qualities of the people you surround yourself with.
NeoreactionSafe 8y ago
Interesting how a guy who has "sown his wild oats" as a youth can see value in Red Pill after marriage and before getting divorce raped.
Red Pill is the best way to keep a marriage working, so it's far better to learn the rules now rather than having to learn the hard way.
wehadtosaydickety 8y ago
Why are people knocking having children as 'foolish' in this sub. You really think you'll still be banging Tinderellas when you're 90? Is that what you want your legacy to be? seems to be missing the forest for the trees, personally for me the sluts are just stepping stones to finding a mother for my future children.
Rathadin 8y ago
In all likelihood, you have no legacy, and your children almost certainly won't be it.
What was the name of Julius Caesar's father? His mother? What did his father do? Do you even know?
Who were Cincinnatus's parents? Don't know that either?
Your leave your legacy by contributing something of actual value to the world. Let me repeat that for emphasis. Actual. Value. Any fucking fool can have children, and sadly most do.
No one is going to be worried about your "legacy" of brood 100 years from now, much less 1000. If you want a legacy, you better start doing some exceptional things and start now.
A-nana-moose 8y ago
I'm with you. Not only is it a personal goal of mine to have kids, it is also biologically the highest priority of every species on this planet; to maximize the amount of their genes in the next generation. Although our consciousness can lead us to believe other things.
The hard part is establishing a low risk scenario where having kids will not result in destroying your own life.
J_AsapGem 8y ago
yea bro..i don't know about anyone else but i wanna leave my " trademark " on this earth. Personally i don't fancy the having 5+ plates, it's too time consuming, maybe 2 plates the most but i would prefer a 6 month relationship and if she fucks up just move on to someone else.
GoldenCocaine 8y ago
My main issues with having kids is the fact that I would only raise them under a nuclear family. And I would only start a nuclear family if I found the perfect girl (which isn't going to happen lets be real). SO since it is 99% certain that I will not be getting married, having kids is just a waste of time. Also... the thought of possibly having a daughter scares the living shit out of me. Fuck that.
bbm72 8y ago
Legacy is really a concern for some people, huh?
darkrood 8y ago
What exactly is a legacy anyway?
It only takes a few of your great grandsons' wives to cuckold your offsprings by getting railed by chads, then you have a lineage of strangers that just squandering your fortune in your name.
MattyAnon Admin 8y ago
Children = ungrateful child support, alienated from you by the mother who divorces you and then poisons them against you as part of her immoral weaponisation of the children.
The dream of a man owning a family has left the station along with the steam trains.
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Venkas 8y ago
There is a reason they call Marriage " The Red Pill on Hard Mode". The rules of engagement change and you need to be at the top of your game 24/7. You don't need a divorce to have a crappy marriage.
RP_WIP 8y ago
The problem here is assuming that every marriage that doesn't end in divorce is a 'success' I know of many marriages just within my friends and family circle that have lasted and probably will last for a long time. Maybe one of them would I consider a successful marriage.
MattyAnon Admin 8y ago
60%+ of marriages end in divorce (usually female initiated).
Of the remaining fraction... how many are happy? Most are not. Usually the guy is sticking around to avoid divorcerape and to keep contact with his children, ie being held to ransom.
The vast majority of marriages either end or are unhappy. Very few are happy. I'm not gambling my future finances, optons and happiness on a very expensive 15% chance of "winning".
Mofocheez 8y ago
While I see the point you're trying to make, and I think it's a legitimate one, it is also worth noting that the vast majority of males are losers.
I don't advocate for marriage in this broken system but it's a much more complicated issue, especially when the target audience of this sub isn't generally the fat couch-ridden dad stereotype.
MattyAnon Admin 8y ago
Undoubtedly true.
For me... when I first read about TRP, I thought of all the people I knew and had known, who were slightly older than me. No losers... just normal good guys and above average in many ways. So many corpses. So so many. And the women... kinda ordinary, kinda nice, but following red pill theory to the letter.
Hypergamous, branch swinging. Don't know if they cheated. But they definitely exploited the men and the system. No loyalty. Huge irresponsibility.
In one case... woman leaves husband and young kids to go off with another guy ... I know the first guy well, he's awesome or he was before she destroyed him and left him with the kids. The other stories are more usual: dead bedrooms, financially irresponsible women, female entitlement culture.
These are family and friends who are all wayyyyyy above average men, middle class, solid careers, charming, intelligent, etc.
And yes, they don't look like Chad and they're too loyal. TRP truths abound. BUT... this also argues (from my personal sample) heavily against marriage. I understand that the divorce rate (and associated male suffering) is even higher for working class people.
And my friends who are still together? Mostly it's so the guy can keep his children. Internally they're fucking up and dying a little more each and every day.
Amongst all the people I know (no losers)... very few are genuinely happy in their relationship, most are looking down the barrel of the divorcerape gun.
Thanks, but no thanks.
Mofocheez 8y ago
That is fucking bleak. Holy shit.
I'm right there with you.
GFandango 8y ago
True that and I don't particularly disagree with you however you do acknowledge you'll be basically throwing away your option for offsprings with that too which while you may personally not value that much, it is kinda our main reason for existing on this planet.
I can't help but to feel bad for stopping the family tree due to my personal preferences. I can hear my ancestors from thousands of years ago collectively shouting out "fucking douchebag!".
MattyAnon Admin 8y ago
I didn't say that. You want a family then go for it (knowing the risks).
Would you say to the mother of your children "I will pay you to leave me"? No? Then don't get married, because that's what marriage is.
GFandango 8y ago
Could you elaborate on the "I will pay you to leave me" part? I'm not sure if I understood fully.
Mofocheez 8y ago
Divorce.
You're either paying her to leave peacefully or she's making your life hell. And you're probably still paying.
MattyAnon Admin 8y ago
Two people aren't married. She leaves. The end.
Two people are married. She leaves. She gets half the house, half the possessions and future alimony paid to her.
If you marry and don't divorce, the marriage makes no financial difference. If you marry and get a divorce, she profits at your expense.
Hence by getting married, the difference is that you are giving her future money if she leaves. This is functionally identical to offering her money to leave.
Don't forget that marriage confers no (zero, zilch, nada) obligation on the female, only opportunity. She can cheat, move country and state, divorce you - all under no obligation to you except perhaps a shred of societal approval, which I'm sure she'll be crying about as she flicks through Tinder "just for a giggle and to make new friends".
Marriage is not an ownership contract, it is a one sided provisioning contract with some of the strictest legal enforcement of any legal construct. (Instant jail for non payment? That's unheard of in any other area of law).
gaycunrarth 8y ago
How the fuck did you get endorsed...
RedPillDad 8y ago
Because he tells the cold, hard truth, not what people like to hear.
I'm lucky enough to have a redpill wife who isn't a parasite, but the kids? Holy shit they are needy buggers. Having a perfect little family is a bluepill fantasy that will enslave you.
Great post OP.
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RedSovereign 8y ago
No concern trolling.
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I don't know what that is. That's my honest opinion.
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radianceofparadise 8y ago
You've got a lot of reading to do. Enjoy your divorce rape.
wehadtosaydickety 8y ago
Enjoy telling all of the other dudes at the retirement home about the handy you got 40 years ago from that HB6 from okcupid
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Either way, it's all so depressing. Who's up for buying a slice of Russia and starting over?
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The "gotta teach them how to give a BJ" comment made me remember how i had to teach my gf how to kiss. Haha. It was like kissing a chicken, the pecking was intense.
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haha same deal here. I couldn't handle it though so i dropped her. Low count girl too but I'd rather a girl with experience for now
getRedPill 8y ago
I can recognize when I am receiving good blow. But would it surprise you if I tell I wouldn't know how to tell a girl how to give me good blowjob?
ransay3277 8y ago
Had this problem once and found a good solution. Watched a how-to video together on you porn and she followed the videos advice as we watched it. She even played a few parts over several times.
MattyAnon Admin 8y ago
"Suck harder, don't use your fucking teeth".
boomerbux 8y ago
still my favourite very old joke: what does a man call the worst blowjob he's ever had?
Faaaaaantastic!
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agmatine 8y ago
No, you get another girl to blow you. Duh.
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cloudstryfe 8y ago
This was a great write up. Thank you
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As a frat guy, I can tell you this sentence is not true. Its not just hoes at frat parties. All types of girls go out to party in college, including the virgins and low n-count girls. I took a girl's virginity once after meeting her at my frat party... she begged me to do "whatever I wanted" to her. Strangely, I was still on the blue pill at this time and I was not alpha at all.... she just thought I was for some reason.
After the sex, she told me about her last beta boyfriend who thought blowjobs were disrespectful and wanted to "wait to lose their virginities". He had obviously put her on a massive pedestal. Whoever that guy was he fucked up bad... she just needed a good dicking.
I hear she's a slut now, but still trying to become a Doctor.
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All women have that side to them, so yes, that is exactly what I'm saying. Don't be fooled by a woman acting like she's different.
ChadJr 8y ago
I don't get the concept of tight game. I see it like you either have it or you don't. I can't see how there can be levels to it .
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FemtoG 8y ago
You would make a good salesmen. Your introduction was just moderate enough that almost anyone would give you strong credibility.
EnlightenedViking 8y ago
Great post.
How do you go about insta-next in terms of the medium being the message?
As in there is a "yes" she wants to get drinks or have sex...but anything else is Beta bait.
Lately I've been insta-nexting anything that isn't an easy phone number, date, or lay. But I see you're talking in terms of their behavior once you are already banging them.
My insta-next saves me time and investment, but then again it could also be costing me good sex.
favours_of_the_moon 8y ago
Great post, kind of a more advanced level type shit.
Post-anger phase. lol
Bpdthrowaway78 8y ago
? Never let them lock you down? But you're married
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I'd like a little more info about that too. Its probably not all its cracked up to be... I would like to know the stats of happy marriages. 25%? They can't all be shit shows right?
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There are sluts, and there are good liars.
You're a fool if you believe a typical western woman in today's matriarchy hasn't been plowed more then upstate New York in December.
Sure there are exceptions, but only if you game Amish women and those of similar ilk.
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