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AllahHatesFags 5y ago
IDK what kind of pathetic man pays these thots for what you can get for free from pornhub.
EdmondDantes777 5y ago
Why on earth do you watch Soygon of Akkad? The man is a walking clown.
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DeGENZerate 5y ago
The thots wont fornicate with whistleblower, so so he flashbacks to yoda searches feelings and can only find large caches of porn. From there whistleblower masturbates to thot getting thrashed by her tax lawyer and the game is over
Luckyluke23 5y ago
so what you are saying is, Alphas wouldn't care. the betas are only doing it to fuck over the hot girls?
Nov51605 5y ago
supporting the IRS and being a soviet-style snitch is deplorable.
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Nicolas0631 5y ago
Governement mostly exist to benefit people that are part of it with the official escuse to solve other people problem... And if you notice you don't have a choice in there, you cannot say that you don't want your problems to be solved by them.
SpectacularFox 5y ago
Who is portraying it as alpha? It's just 4chan trying to sabotage e-sluts. They know most of these women will be Hillary supporters pushing left wing values whilst evading tax like hypocrites, so 4chan are using the same tactics as the left to damage them.
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Original_Dankster 5y ago
Fuck that. Black knighting is effective at exposing hypocrisy to 3rd party observers. This looks like fun and can be potentially financially rewarding. It can modify anti-social behaviour, and is perfectly legal.
the-bro 5y ago
I disagree, since there's monetary gain involved. A wolf can disguise himself as a sheep for personal gain, in this case being cash and still remain a wolf. Just a richer one. Sometimes you have to be selfish in this world and you can't deny there's an opportunity here to enjoy the decline and get a little richer while doing it
SpectacularFox 5y ago
Adopting the tactics of the left to destroy them is not blue pilled. It's blue pilled for your civilisation to go down the drain because you were too "alpha" to use every tool at your disposal stop that happening.
IVIaskerade 5y ago
Yes it is, because the tactics of the left are inherently destructive to yourself as well.
The only way you can constructively use leftist tactics is to encourage already-beta males to use them in a guerilla campaign rather than engaging in them yourself.
SpectacularFox 5y ago
The left are already using those tactics to destroy the right. Using those tactics back at them does not destroy the right anymore than it's already being destroyed.
IVIaskerade 5y ago
True.
But it destroys you to use them, and you as an individual are more important to keep healthy than "the right" as though that's actually a meaningful thing.
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Nov51605 5y ago
Big let down seeing that ostensible "red pill" guys are supporting Agent SMiths & the Matrix. Cypher anyone ?
SpectacularFox 5y ago
Civilisation is already lost if you don't fight back effectively. Everything is going in the left's favor. They control every social media platform going, they control the news media, hollywood and the education system. They are deplatforming and destroying the lives of conservatives at an ever increasing rate. The right, by trying to be magnanimous and oh so principled are doing nothing to slow the left's progress. In the scheme of things it's meaningless.
They're going to be called racist no matter what. That's what the left does. The left's accusations have no basis in considered rationality. They just use specific tactics to destroy people and they'll use those tactics regardless of what their opponents do.
bsutansalt 5y ago
As I said upthread I have no issue with guys taking their tactics and flipping the script as a way of flighting back. This actually happened in Sweden a few years when guys fought to have the same gender quota system applied in their favor for nursing school entrance because it was so heavily dominated by women.
The powers that be decided it'd be better for no gender quotas than to let men benefit from them, so they scrapped the whole thing. MRAs would call that a win and I'm inclined to agree if killing the quota system was their intention.
DeGENZerate 5y ago
What's wrong with letting the bubble pop? Why fight back within the confines of a system in order to preserve your spirit, via the tactics of the system, when the tactics of the system inherrently destroy any individual spirit you currently have (lets tattle to daddy government).
The latent reality is by tattling one makes himself a conservative. To which I ask what is worth conserving? Do you really want to live the life of a man who doesn't even whistleblower directly, but tacitly approves as he lives vicariously through their rebellion?
Thats not the life for me. Hard next. I will not be the man who got triggered because one of the most vile manifestations of medernity happens to "break the rules" the very same rules that want to throw me in a machine to turn some cogs and make a linr go up.
IVIaskerade 5y ago
Using leftist tactics isn't "fighting back effectively". It's just adding more shit into the ocean of shit.
SpectacularFox 5y ago
Yes it is because it highlights to them how awful their own ideology is. When leftist get banned from facebook due to the ever changing parameters of hate speech, some of them might actually consider why it's a bad idea to use these censorial tactics. The shit they use to sabotage the right will come back to bite them. It's the only way they can learn.
LokiWantsToPlay 5y ago
Never seen GLO get downvoted so much, lol...
But GLO is right, there is no need to adopt leftist tactics. I disagree with his analogy of "foreign" tactics, it's more akin in Western societies of a teenager vs the parent. Tattle tailing is the act of a child, not a self-respecting adult.
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LokiWantsToPlay 5y ago
I have noticed how the community over the years has changed. It used to be shit posters with massive ego's fucking around and having a laugh and discussions, spurring each other on to be better. Now, it seems rather... whiney and self-righteous
Whisper 5y ago
For those not fond of dusty books, a simple explanation of this can be made.
The master in any interaction is he who controls the language and ideological context the conversation occurs in. He who adopts the language, ideas, and values of another becomes his slave, since his very thoughts are controlled, even in his rebellion.
Thus, MRAs have made themselves slaves to feminism, because their adoption of its strategies concedes all of its major points.
When MRAs focus on men as victims in order to seek social change for relief of their victimhood, they adopt feminism's paradigm, and concede its assumption that victimhood is moral entitlement.
SelfTaughtPiano 5y ago
jesus christ, the red pill still has some brain scratching content left. No troll, I'm honestly surprised.
bsutansalt 5y ago
This is why the power of being able to reframe things is crucial. You're hijacking their mode of thinking and language and using it for your own ends. I have no problem with guys flipping the script like that.
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bsutansalt 5y ago
That's a matter of opinion. When the rubber meets the road whoever has the stronger frame determines the reality (perception Is reality).
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zyqkvx 5y ago
It depends on the mindset of the person. If a dirty clown circus whirls through my town I might be annoyed and ignore. I don't want to pay for the cleanup of all their spilled Big Gulps, and if they are careful, I still I want them to pay taxes so I pay less taxes. I don't want to pay Also, thots not paying taxes has a false advertising element to it. These poor beta losers are under the perception that these thots are flirting on a personal basis. Not the case. It'd be like Home Depot acting like they were letting you borrow their rentals, and emailing you asking for money with a sad story 4-5 times a year and not reporting it on their taxes. I don't think men have a right to deceive themselves if it means my taxes are higher.
That all said, the guys that are actually reporting are likely doing it in the context you spoke of.
destraht 5y ago
The San Ysidro border is locked down with razor wire, the obvious debt is 21 trillion dollars not even touching on the many trillions of other liabilities and the IRS is now discontinuing passports. I hope that everyone sees where this is going.
[edit] > If you/they had the stronger frame you/they wouldn't be adopting foreign tactics.
There are about 101 ways to get there. My goto is a bible proverb "Envy not the oppressor and choose none of his ways". I'm not going to engage in a snitch culture where we vindicate our grievances by working in the context of a master class as we take turns tightening the shackles of our preferred enemy. Once we are fully in their frame then they only need to supply us with grievances and punishments and we'll do the rest and then we'll all be in a shit situation.
bsutansalt 5y ago
We need to be more specific. What do you mean by "foreign tactics"? Playing the victim card?
BillyRedRocks 5y ago
Feminists point out rights men have and women don't - start crying about it - they get what they want.
MRA;s point out biases and rights women have and men don't - start crying about it - doesn't work.
Both do the same thing but feminists win and MRAs lose.
Democrats call republicans racist - dems win points.
Republicans retort that the dems are the real racists - Reps lose points, dems win poonts/nobody listens to the racist republicans.
Same tactic but dems win and republicans lose.
ShotgunTRP 5y ago
That game theory matrix. Something something prisoners dilemma something Pascal’s wager
zyqkvx 5y ago
That all makes sense except that between thots VS IRS I don't think the thots are going to win. I'm glad. I want my taxes lower. There is no unicorn profession when it means raising my taxes.
MLK_was_a_commie 5y ago
Wew, dropping some pills that might be too red, even for this sub
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SelfTaughtPiano 5y ago
when did you start into philosophy?
Your messages and content used to be rather simple back in the old days
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SelfTaughtPiano 5y ago
Beautiful answer. The Red pill is in good hands.
Vulgar_Professional 5y ago
This is all anger phase BS.
cocaineforbabies 5y ago
This is all a massive larp by thots, hear me out.
I went on this David Wu persons Facebook account, the main person that made this go viral, and he was promoting a private Facebook page called “ancapistan.” I was enjoying the memes and shit but I noticed there was a chat button that said “mod chat” so in my troll ethic I went there since the dumbasses didn’t know it was open to the entire Facebook group. I found out all the admins and mods (David wu is an admin on that fb page) we’re making fun of all the incels actually getting so enthusiastic about this movement: https://imgur.com/a/MCWHXtf
I later started researching all the admins and mods and all of them were either actual whores masquerading as respectable women or attractive blue pilled guys doing it for a laugh. They were making fake Facebook accounts and posting “redpill like” posts about the incels on the fb page.
Psycholephant 5y ago
We need better screenshots than that one, I'm inclined to believe you though.
PMmepicsofyourtits 5y ago
Even if it is a larp, there’s enough people jumping in to make it real. I think this will still hurt the thot-industrial complex.
Jake_le_Dog 5y ago
It could also be like the Banout2018 thing, where a bunch of mods were larping as if they had a hand in the subreddit bans, no?
general_landur 5y ago
Jesus I remember I was in this group when my Facebook was still up. It's been more than a year since deactivation, focusing on real life instead. Never felt better.
think_9090909 5y ago
That proof seems a bit weak IMO. Not saying it's false though.
cocaineforbabies 5y ago
This is one of the admins/moderators: https://imgur.com/a/4zA8v4o
KewlThanks 5y ago
It's really fucking...mm it's good stuff. But this is destroying the symptom.
What beta faggot would pay for nudes? Honestly? They better be personalized as fuck like come fuck me when you get home (name).
But knowing women and tech, they're not, it's probably basic ass nudes with a generic caption. And these are super basic bitches.
dongpal 5y ago
some thot on twitter wrote that you need a lot of information about the suspect to report them ,which most dont have. is that true? https://twitter.com/andraporterlv/status/1066543360859459585
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From the tweet:
Oh that sweet summer child. Let me tell you a story about “the hacker known as 4chan”.
halfback910 5y ago
Yeah. They don't understand the internet/4chan. At All. The internet and 4chan are an Eye of Sauron. You just don't want them on you. If you get the Eye of Sauron on you, it'll find you and ruin you no matter what. There's no way of stopping it.
So the only thing you can do is not get the Eye of Sauron to pay attention to you. It's not that hard. Just don't film yourself abusing a cat or do what these women are doing and you'll probably be fine. But if you film yourself hurting a cat and post it online your life is pretty much over. The Eye of Sauron loves cats. Everyone knows that.
geo_gan 5y ago
This is what I was thinking. In many cases it’s not even possible to verify which country the thot operates from, never mind social security number and name. No point reporting to US revenue if the thot is a Spanish citizen...
rukken 5y ago
Theres a disclaimer on that form: https://twitter.com/LowProfi1e/status/1066587763607302144
BuzzLightGear321 5y ago
Yup, if they find you, they will get you. Of course it's hard finding people sometimes, much easier to find the money then try to tie it to whoever withdraws it.
benmarvin 5y ago
To actually get real money, a thot would have to tie the payment service to a bank account. Long shot, but the IRS could just do a mass audit of Paypal, Venmo, CashApp, etc records and connect some dots.
BuzzLightGear321 5y ago
That bank account can be outside the States. Then transferred to the states. Of course a Thot doesn't know these basic money laundering skills.
eunucomilenial 5y ago
FATCA, not even Caribbean banks will open accounts to US citizens anymore unless you fill the KYK forms and FATCA forms... You would need to create a offshore "sociedad anónima" and I think that is too much for a dumb thot to do
GainzdalfTheWhey 5y ago
Not that easy to transfer money to the US, if it was that easy drug cartels would do it.
someonesopinion6969 5y ago
operation save the beta and punish the pussy that thinks it is entitled to payment.
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OneHangsLower 5y ago
Way too libertarian to support this - wouldn't it be better to educate men on better things they can spend their time/money on then getting into bed with the IRS (i.e. an institution of theft)? We can't claim the moral high ground while simultaneously forcing moral standards on other's.
RPLawyer 5y ago
We need to seize the thots of production!
SnowMonkeyCracker 5y ago
At the meta-level, the phenomenon of #thotaudit is a prank. However, the underlying dynamics of the thot-beta relationship are real which is why this prank has gone viral. All good jokes contain an element of truth.
civilizedfrog 5y ago
Now we get to see socialist thots become libertarian thots overnight
bsutansalt 5y ago
It's happening...
Proto_Sigma 5y ago
I for one welcome the infusion of fresh thots into the Libertarian Liberation Front, although it is just our turn and I don't doubt that most of them will cheat for that sweet welfare money because AWALT.
Taxation is theft!
halfback910 5y ago
You'd be surprised how strong a foothold libertarianism has in the sex work industry. The libertarian party's newest platform plank in favor of legalizing prostitution was written by party members who are also sex workers. Both female and male!
aShiftyLad 5y ago
Nevada is a great place for the movement. Lot of girls from the Bunny Ranch are leading the sex workers movement
TheBadGoy 5y ago
Lol, people discussing if it's beta or not, it's fucking 4chan for God's sake. When men dont get pussy they rage and destroy, society will have a massive problem in their hands in the near future.
TontoKemosabe 5y ago
This is the biggest point that the majority fail to grasp, even in the Manosphere. This is the one huge underlying problem that will devastate everything. Men have no reason to give a fuck about society and its burdens if they are not getting pussy!
Onesharpman 5y ago
I agree, but these women also need to pay their taxes like everyone else. No more free ride.
Acrimont 5y ago
Nobody should pay taxes, but yeah.
IWillBecomeChad 5y ago
This is accurate. Have you read George Gilder’s Men and Marriage?
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Yakatonker 5y ago
Its so disgusting in how these men relinquish money for no fucking services rendered, either literal or through views which equates to subs/views which in turn is a transferable capital in terms of ad revenue. The transaction for a twitch or other thot/whore/cam slut/etc is entirely predicated on the product of "hope", that some how relinquishing funds will equate to attention, long term return for sex. Though we all know how that goes. Its so cringey and painful to see any materials regarding this type of male to female interaction.
Its quite obvious to see Twitch and other platforms trying to monetize softcore porn out in the open, trying to pretentiously brand themselves otherwise. Though reproduction is the core and primary monetizable well of capital in any society. Its not surprising a system would regress to peddling sexual capital.
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SnowMonkeyCracker 5y ago
Many men have the drive to provide resources. When no woman is immediately available the single male will look for other means to satisfy this drive. It is like a gang of egg-less penguins trying to adopt the nearest lost chick. Kinda sad really.
flyalpha56 5y ago
Holy shit haha this is a pretty good comparison
MakoShark93 5y ago
Yes, its absolutely pathetic. Up until I saw the shit hit my bank account in a traumatic way a few days ago -- I was one of those people.
modernwhore 5y ago
A good lesson in life is to never purchase anything expensive you can't try first.
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IVIaskerade 5y ago
This is Black Knighting at its finest.
AutisticusMaximus 5y ago
Many people are insulting reporters online, calling them incels and neckbeards and permavirgins.
Although I was always against snitching for the sake of snitching, in order to get in good terms with the boss/teacher, whatever; I have nothing against this, I pay taxes, they should too, fuck off.
And I understand the non-monetary satisfaction in reporting here, the same hot women who never gave them the time of day in life and degraded them for their hobbies (video games, computers, etc.) are now disingenuously adopting those same hobbies because they can use their sexuality to monetize them.
bsutansalt 5y ago
That's my take on this as well. Anyone working under the table like this and taking govt handouts is STEALING from the rest of us. Hell, even if they're self-sufficient and not on the govt dole it's still theft by way of services the govt provides (eg. roads), which the rest of us are paying for.
DeGENZerate 5y ago
You are fighting so hard to conserve a system. What is left to conserve in your opinion?
Nicolas0631 5y ago
Because you got raped and accept it, doesn't mean other will resign themselve too.
The excuse to some extent is that taxes pay for things that are useful for you or that some people (not necessarily you) find useful. But you are given no choice in it. But nobody care if that real or not. You don't choose what you get in exchange. States behave exactly like mafia.
DannyDemotta 5y ago
It's one thing to mow lawns or wash dishes for under-the-counter money - it's another to be taking PayPal and Venmo and CashApp, and pimping your car and clothes and shoes online, and just fucking rubbing everyone's faces in it.
ReformSociety 5y ago
just fucking rubbing it in everyone's faces*
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DannyDemotta 5y ago
So you would pick up dog shit, with your hands, and rub it in someone's face, rather than shoving their face into a pile of dog shit already on the ground?
Uh....OK. I guess you like to handle shit, and have your hands stink like feces. I don't.
ReformSociety 5y ago
tf are you talking about? The expression is "rubbing it in your face".
DannyDemotta 5y ago
There are multiple ways to say it, champ. Just like "pot, meet kettle" means the same as "pot calling the kettle black". Are you some kind of fucking foreigner?
Don't try to instruct someone raised speaking English on how to speak it, just because you thump your little dictionary and know how to use Google.
russian_nigger 5y ago
my general disapproval of sluts is at war with my hatred of taxes
BlackendLight 5y ago
My philosophy is if I pay taxes so do they, so if they're avoiding taxes I'm glad they're getting reported.
666Evo 5y ago
I know the feeling, brother.
I'm all for doing everything you can to keep your money from the government coffers. But there is a little schadenfreude with thots getting their comeuppance.
satanicpriest13 5y ago
The enemy of your enemy brother.
boxxybebe 5y ago
But each is the enemy of the other enemy
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bsutansalt 5y ago
You might be wondering how this is TRP relevant, but I challenge you to watch the full video. He covers some very interesting aspects of our culture that's tied to red pill philosophy, namely the decoupling of consequences from women's hypergamy and sexuality over the past 40+ years. (the fact he even touches upon this should be eye opening in that it's a red pilling of the masses moment)
Once upon a time there was a "pussy in every pot" as I like to call it for betas and chads alike. Civilization had checks and balances that ensured average dudes would land a woman to have some kids with to ensure he'd have skin in the game to slave and build society for. However, since the advent of women's lib and the pill, women are now free to fuck and suck every chad they cross paths with and it's causing a rift between the sexual haves and have nots that we're just starting to see the ramifications of.
In the context of the video it's entirely understandable thirsty jaded dudes would blow the whistle on these thots who are taking advantage of their thirst. As he points out, there's also an financial incentive to blow the whistle on them: any taxes the IRS collects because of the dime you dropped, your'e liable to get a 30% cut. On the other end of the spectrum are the worst case examples are guys cracking under the pressure (and depression it causes) and shooting up yoga classes and theaters and whatnot. The more common consequence has been guys waking up, taking the red pill, and enjoying the decline primarily in one of two ways:
Most of us here probably fall into category 2. Yeah yeah, we should be doing this as being your best self is its own reward, but we must not delude ourselves into thinking we're doing this for some higher purpose. Sexual strategy is still what underpins this for most of us.
In conclusion, I fully endorse #thotaudit if only for the checks and balances it represents to women's sexuality. I actually like living in what remains of Western society and I don't want things to devolve into where I fear they're heading. Enjoy the decline, but if you have a chance to delay the inevitable AND GET PAID FOR IT, then I see no reason not to do so.
TheTrenTrannyTrain 5y ago
thotaudit, thank you 4chan. Funny how some of those women are hamstering away that they should receive tax-free income.
TempleOfIron 5y ago
Very well written post. And bluntly honest in that category 2 is nothing more than fulfilling one's biological imperative. It's not to obtain a higher purpose like the PUA coaches would have you believe. It's simply encoded into your biology to spread your genes. However, today that has become extremely destructive. Having a child means being held a prisoner financially to a woman. Albeit emotional black mail. Because the courts weigh heavily in the favour of women.
You see most MGTOWs are not monks. As I do, they most likely pump and dump women. Short flings. Hookups. But they know that having women around will not benefit them. You will always incur a loss the longer you have a woman stick around in your life. There is no way to prevent that other than to literally go your own way. And that doesn't mean having to meditate and go no fap super monk mode. MGTOW for me is being a bachelor. That most of my time is not wasted on attention thots who do nothing to contribute and add to my time other than their pussy. And if they do offer anything other than that? I'm very much open to it.
Female nature has been placed on steroids with social media and the likes of smartphones. We are seeing the very first wave of it from women who have hit the wall and have rode the cock carousel from the likes of dating apps with attention from men in their thousands all from their phone. They are utterly hooked like a drug from the attention. Their solipsism has blown up. It's like crack cocaine to them. And what happens when they hit the wall? Well, the attention from simps in their riddled 30's is there but it's died off. Not like it used to be for them. They no longer have their fix in the amount of attention they was used to. This has never happened before the inception of smart phones because women were limited in how many men could be available at a time due to logistics. Now you have an entire generation of women heading to the wall to be outcompeted by a younger more attractive female and to have their supply cut off so suddenly. Now, they will still attract some men but they genuinely don't desire them. Thus they have to settle for a beta bucks. And the radicalised version of the post-wall thot? Well they usually end up childless and mentally ill with cats. I've witnessed this too many times to know that as a truth.
We MGTOWs and Red pillers don't usually see eye to eye all the time. Sometimes we think you appear too thirsty and give women validation so freely based around a 'sexual strategy'. We see Married Red Pill who build their entire identity just to become chads to their wives as a fool's errand. To become 'chad' to fit a mould just to appease female desire. Forgetting that yesterday's chad is tomorrow's beta cuck captive in a marriage/relationship with a woman who doesn't really and can never truly appreciate him. You see MGTOWs as monks who border on incels. MGTOWs as giving up on women which seems like shooting yourself in the foot. But in this radicalised gynocentric society we need each other. Especially in times of censorship. Most likely MGTOW subreddit will be next.
All in all. Good post. I too highly endorse #thotaudit
KewlThanks 5y ago
Enjoy the decline.
I still want to fight. It is feeling more and more like Roman times, but if it comes to a head, and our civilization of the west wins, then we'll be on the rise.
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
Kids yes, but not much sex. Married women were (and largely still are) famous for wanting to avoid sex with their (beta) husbands - until recent times going so far as to deny their enjoyment of sex at all. (I'm sure they fucked Chad on the side though).
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mleko69 5y ago
I love that Atlas Shrugged reference
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TheKrullonline 5y ago
Whores in the Netherlands also have to pay taxes for their services
Auvergnat 5y ago
It’s a very interesting and funny new front open in the gender war.
Several comments come to mind:
absolutely loving the guy in the video taking notice of the fact that this is, for the first time ever, a way for men to make money with sex off the internet. Just as pimps make money off prostitutes, these guys are basically e-pimping.
if the financial incentive was not there, I doubt this would become a thing. Too few incels angry enough to put in the necessary work and take on the risks (doxxing oneself to the IRS?). But if one can make money doing so, then this becomes a VERY interesting way to generate income for a wider range of men (and women).
if it becomes a thing thanks to that incentive, all those e-prostitutes will simply declare that income to the IRS from now on. As they should. And the fun will be spoilt for the angry incels, and the opportunity for income will stop for everyone else.
given a society bent on the feminine imperative (so among others, very keen to facilitate the redistribution of resources from men to women), it will be interesting to see if somehow “something happens” to allow e-prostitutes to NOT have to pay tax on that income. I can imagine for example there being “too many for the IRS to follow up” and thus announcing a blanket pass. Or perhaps new legislation being pushed to allow tax exemption for internet-based prostitution.
JamesSkepp 5y ago
LMAO. This could turn into men hunting the internet for snaptchats only to report them, imagine that - reporting someone for a crime they maybe did, maybe they and let law decide.
We should start adding another rule to the Record Everything, namely - "save her snaptchats, save her prizes".
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vandaalen 5y ago
Does this also apply to foreigners in other countries? Asking for a friend.
bsutansalt 5y ago
I honestly don't know. Here's the link though if you want to review the legalese yourself:
https://www.irs.gov/compliance/whistleblower-informant-award
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/26/301.7623-1
benmarvin 5y ago
For the reward you have to give your personal info and SSN, because that reward is actually counted as taxable income. A non-resident can get a EIN and pay taxes to the US, just a couple extra hoops to jump through. I don't see anywhere specifically saying non-residents would be exempt from the reward.
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AutisticusMaximus 5y ago
It is up to 15% if their annual income is less than $200k and up to $30% for over $200k.
I doubt majority of these modern "cam sluts" fall into this category, but then again, the thirst is real, so I would not be surprised at a bigger sum.
For me personally, thot outrage and confusion is fun to watch, and is as interesting as the actual more serious idea of reporting thots who exploit their sexuality.
https://i.imgur.com/4TVWKFt.jpg
bsutansalt 5y ago
15% is still a good chunk of change with what some of these thots are making. Some of the instragram hos make well into 6 figures, especially the ones who do product endorsements. Although those are less what is at the heart of this topic and if they're not paying taxes they're just plain stupid with that kind of money (and jail time) on the line for tax evasion.
packetdata 5y ago
can non residents or non americans do this too ? i know so many thots especially on Reddit and steam that are evading taxes.
benmarvin 5y ago
For the reward you have to give your personal info and SSN, because that reward is actually counted as taxable income. A non-resident can get a EIN and pay taxes to the US, just a couple extra hoops to jump through. I don't see anywhere specifically saying non-residents would be exempt from the reward.
Luckyluke23 5y ago
your post is a solid man. and i agree with you.
I'm at a tipping point with this right now because I've been improving on myself or at least trying to with no results to show for it.
my problem is, I feel like the goal posts are being moved every year due to #meetoo and the like. when is the tipping point to go from " i get nothing beta" to " yeah i do ok" guy ( I'm not even talking a chad who slays 9-10s here I'm talking about a guy who can get the odd girl)
the thing i have yet to wrap my head around is I feel as if I'm wrong. it isn't a sliding scale like I think it is, it's an on-off switch as in. there are guys that get laid and there are guys that dont. period. Would this be correct? or do I feel hard done by because I'm the guy in the have not section?
kittyclaw200 5y ago
Go lift weights because it feels good. Find some hobbies that bring you enjoyment because they make you happy.
Once your life is filled with activities that make you feel complete and happy, you will not even care about thots. It's at this point that thots will be looking for your attention. You might or might not give a shit about engaging them.
Luckyluke23 5y ago
i dont care about thots now trust me
zyqkvx 5y ago
Your only guardian angel is learning to enjoy brussel sprouts, and pumping iron while you whine.
Luckyluke23 5y ago
oh course who the fuck eats sprouts. peas all the way man!
[deleted] 5y ago
That Hoe Owes Taxes
Neo_Trunks 5y ago
Most of them will be like:
Tax, what is that? A dildo brand? And btw, what's an audit?!?!?
SageKnows 5y ago
IRS is sponsoring thot patrol
[deleted] 5y ago
Like for real ...
https://imgur.com/a/wOl7Cbg
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The_Lightskin_Wonder 5y ago
So I can make some side cash just snitching on all the cashapp slides/thots on tinder?
Hyperintelligentwolf 5y ago
But, but, I didn't do anything wrong.
SpectacularFox 5y ago
I think it's entertaining. Fuck what's alpha or beta.
Nov51605 5y ago
kinda shocked at people who endorse being snitches. Lack of street knowledge for sure.
"snitches are bitches who wind up in ditches" - ALL FUCKIN' DAY !
Using big daddy government as the hammer is what the femtards do - endorsing or even acting on snitching is becoming what you hate.
This is so antithetical to a free market it's not even funny
McRoddy 5y ago
Shut the fuck up. If I can make quick cheddar and get rid of a thot then I’m doing it. Money over everything Hoe!
Nov51605 5y ago
snitches are bitches. you'll learn
Good-Boi 5y ago
The society of thots must be torn down. Modern western woman embrace being whores but we should shame whores and put them down where every thy thot appears
Shtafoo 5y ago
Illuminati’s hidden agenda to sexualize the world so we live in sin. Nothing new here.
33papers 5y ago
It's pretty pathetic people think this is great but are unconcerned with corporate tax evasion of billions of dollars.
Yes they should pay taxes. But it's a drop in the ocean in the big scheme if things.
IVIaskerade 5y ago
A) People can be concerned with both.
B) There's nothing your individual soyboy can do about the corporations. But he can do something about the thots.
bounty9 5y ago
As someone who is familiar with what is popularly known as “the code”, trust me, corporations will always snake their way into a favorable tax arrangement. It is impossible to forsee and plan for every eventuality.
Also, forgive my snarkiness, but almost all of the corporations which you might accuse of tax evasion are simply following the internal revenue code as it was written.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
Yep. Idiots are always gonna oversimplify though. Their undersized intellects are overwhelmed by the complexity and nuance of reality so their brains simplify it into digestible nuggets.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
But the big corporation are doing it legaly, actually nothing happen for them because they play by the rules and they are big enough and organized enough to ensure it stay like that but also to find new creative way to avoid taxes. So for the state this is 100% legal and not a problem.
A few people complain about it loudly to subtain a political agenda but that's just pretending. In the mean time if you or me don't pay our taxes, we have big issues, because we don't follow the rules.
33papers 5y ago
Billions of tax dollars lost is a massive problem, regardless of what legal loopholes are used.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
I can say that individual citizen not paying their due to the state is a massive problem, regarless of legal loopholes they use to not pay.
I'd say that each indivual shall pay 10000$ more of taxes every year and that even more taxes loss than big corporations.
The reality is there no such loss. As long as the law is followed, by definition there no loss. And a change in law could say literaly anything so I can invent any loss.
The tax dollars lost itself is a loophole that is very comveniant for politician and ONG to create but it is fake. They first invent the law that should be out of their ass, put fake estimation of "loss" out of it and then communicate abundantly about it. This is pure propaganda.
If really you want to change the laws, you can, nobody does it and each time they say they will do it, they care to not change the things they all officially complain about. More importantly, whatever the new laws would be, how much less or more taxes there would be to pay, there will be always people thinking it is too much and people thinking it is not enough. Would you ensure that all the corporation pay twice than the current estimation of loss that it wouldn't prevent somebody to invent a new loss. This has no end.
Stop being so naive and manipulated.
33papers 5y ago
It isn't me being manipulated.
It doesn't matter what the legal definition is. Multinational corporations are paying less tax even than some individuals. There is no way that can be right.
One EPL footballer paid more in tax last year than Starbucks and Amazon combined.
mp111 5y ago
Should follow your own advice. Hundreds of billions lost due to companies hiding money outside of their country of business is not something that should just be argued away with a what-a-bout-ism.
You are also greatly inflating how much some people make at all. People making below 40k will not be paying 10k in federal taxes.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
I read that in US the level of taxes is a tiny bit more than 25% of the gdp. Tge GDP per human living in the state is 59000$, so overall people are already paying on average more than $10000 for various taxes. It is actually like $15000.
Of course this include everything VAT, income tax, you name it.
This is extremely low and one of the lowest in the world. Where I live the part of the GBP that goes to a state (local or not) organisation or another is about 56%. My country has one of the highest rate. There of course justification for that. We have social security out of the box, education is free and retirement is included in the taxes. But still.
What is interresting is that corporations taxes of US is one of the highest in the whole world. That's to be expected that corporations in other countries pay less and they use international laws and conventions to avoid paying too much in the US.
Still individual have low taxe rate in US while corporations have an high rate. So that funny people there think that corporations is where the loss in taxes is !
However foreign it appear to you, it could very well be that in the future you'd pay $15000 more in average of taxes as a citizen of the states AND that corporation would pay less. That perfectly possible and is the case in many countries.
Of course it would not happen overnight it was not the case for us, but it could be the case 30 years from now in US. Here what they used as justification is that all theses rich guys and big corporation make too much money and shall share more. So they justify rasing taxes, only that it raise only for the average citizen not the rich people. If you complain you are egoist rich guy not wanting to share and they explain how much more you should pay... While the real rich don't pay and the statistics about that is used to endlessly increase non rich people taxes.
From theses countries point of view, the average citizen is where most of the taxes are taken and this is where the actual loss is in US.
This is just about choosing your point of reference you see.
halfback910 5y ago
I mean, fuck the government and fuck taxes. But... it's also pretty funny.
DeGENZerate 5y ago
The thotty audit is a drug testing kit that separates red pills from magenta lookalikes
chadmarco 5y ago
I can't endorse snitching, I'd rather men just not throw money at bitches in the first place.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
Snitching is a term used by inner city blacks to indicate their refusal to cooperate with the police in solving the murders that destroy their communities. Out here in civilized society we refer to snitching by its proper name, "being a good citizen."
chadmarco 5y ago
Lets not pretend people are doing this out of a sense of civic duty, this is revenge on thots, which is cool, but lets call it what it is.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
It is 1/3 revenge, 1/3 civic duty, and 1/3 self interest as you can be paid a portion of what the IRS recovers.
DropDeadTyrant 5y ago
I agree, the existence of these sad men are the reason they're making money. This is like a lunchroom argument where a middle schooler screams, "no you". it's not powerful, it's sad. I'd rather we come up with something better than this. It just looks petty.
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I just had to pay about $10,000 to a CPA to re-file back years and clean up my business taxes and I’m trying to do the right thing and still got dinged by the IRS for fucking up.
It’s not about snitching, or incel anger, or whatever. If my biz has to pay these thots gotta pay. Fuck em. I hope they get hauled off to jail. Oh the salty tears and panda eyes. Now those are some premium snaps I’d pay to see (not really but you get the point)
kenpachitz 5y ago
This is too hilarious to be an actual thing.
... Is it an actual thing?
SageKnows 5y ago
CMV: Operation #ThotAudit, is the largest expropriation of capitalist thot money to the poor disenfranchised incels
saibot83 5y ago
Report the hoes on gonewild too. Thot central ovah there.
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Loban8990 5y ago
2018 the year of the Thotening. Im enjoying these stories way too much.
Reformed65 5y ago
PORNHUB: THOTS GETS FUCKED BY TAXMAN, METAPHORICALLY!!! 18+
CowboyEpicurus 5y ago
Isn’t this essentially the same thing as prostitution?
By regulation and cronyism, the internet has in some sense been allowed to become a public utility. By implication, it is not a natural resource. Hence, those who wish to monetize the internet must pay the government.
Now, Snapchat is a platform used to traffick sex at a predetermined rate that depends on the seller. Typically, the pimp is the one who determines the rate and a good one will actually negotiate with the trick himself.
What we have here is the promotion of renegade prostitution. Most of these Snapchat hoes are renegades, or without pimps. By consolidating the flow of money by tax to the government, they are taking a cut from the sale of sexual products.
Why is this legal?
The devil is in the details. There is a difference between prostitution as such, exchanging sexual favors in the flesh for money, and pornography and consensual interplay via technology, which is what Snapchat and phone sex are considered. So long as both participants are consenting and willing, then it generally does not violate free speech.
Thus, instead of outlawing it, it should be taxed. It is no longer a donation, but a transaction. We now have renegade hoes paying rent to the government in order to distribute pornography and phone sex via a “utility.”
But these hoes have a future, too...
In coming decades, we will begin to see these hoes lose their value (beauty and youth) and subsequently cash out on state-provided retirement plans or beta bux comfort.
halfback910 5y ago
I actually don't think it's the same thing as prostitution and I hate that people call these people sex workers.
No. Prostitutes or actual sex workers are honest. They're doing an honest day's work for honest pay in my opinion. These people are selling you nothing.
[deleted] 5y ago
We need a thot credit system, like China’s social credit system. She can quit her bullshit about being a “good girl”. Let me pull up that ThotFax and see where these miles came from. How many times has that pussy been in the shop for repairs?
duehvdke 5y ago
If you're paying for porn, you're wrong. Take your own stand on wether or not you want to watch it, but for fucks sake don't pay for it. In this day and age there is so much of it available, as easily as a google image search, that you'd have to have a really specific kink or set of kinks to ever have to rationally consider paying. Also, sex >>> masturbation so porn is kind of irrelevant anyway. Just my 2 cents.
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