Summary: In the surge of personal branding on other platforms, it is easy to re-write history and think that Rollo and IM created the Red Pill alone. This is an atempt to put the spotlight on other, not well known, users who also shaped TRP. Today I will write about /u/Clint_Redwood and present some of his posts.
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For those of you who don't have Twitter, know that many of the more known users are creating personal brands there and are expanding to YouTube and other endeavours. This isn't a criticism on them. The way I understand TRP and the Manosphere, I prefer to keep anon and separate my personal brand from this. Others are more antifragile than myself at the moment and I aplaud them for speaking many truths with their name and face.
There comes a problem though, because as time passes, people who get to know them via Twitter will assume they are the authority and only they posess the truth. This, we know isn't true, because we have spent longer time here and know that there are many who won't grow their personal brand, and focus on the message instead of the person. Different ways to do things.
One of the many users who has shaped me to become the man I am is /u/Clint_Redwood. I do not know him personally, I have never spoken to him and I do not know anything about him. Clint's posts on sex and business are pure gold. They were eye opening for me when they came out, and it would be a shame that the newer users don't get to read them.
I will be linking through archive, if it breaks the rules, please inform me on the best way to upload them.
Business lessons.
- The Golden Rule: How Not To Get Fucked In Business. https://archive.fo/K3pzK
- The Dark Rule: How To Fuck Someone In Business. https://archive.fo/Za5XM
Both posts are better understood read back to back. Doesn't matter the order. Both are the same story, narrated from two different points of view. There isn't much I can add to both posts, as it would do them unjustice.
Lessons for not putting one's eggs in one basket, not betting on one source of income and general good advice for business. Everytime I revisit these posts, I find a deeper lesson in each.
Sex lessons.
- Dick Health. https://archive.fo/isGiN
This post is for those who are too embarrassed to go to the doctor or ask a friend for some advice. It goes over topics that aren't widely discussed, or at least weren't around here until he pointed them out:
- ED.
- Changing the taste of your cum for the girls.
- Deathgrip (something I have suffered and learnt to correct ever since reading this one).
- Kegels.
- Dick size.
If you have a dick, read this post.
- How To Make A Girl Squirt. https://archive.fo/xv1w7
Nothing more to add. Read the post. The first time I managed to make a girl squirt was by applying what I read here. I know do it regularly and have my own modifications.
General life advice.
A famous video about a law professor who discusses all the reasons to not talk to the police. It is good that it resurfaces from time to time, as it is essential to everyone. I am not from the US, and laws will be different, but the underlining message stays the same. Do. Not. Talk. To. The. Police.
Make the interaction as short as possible and set your ego aside. Nothing good comes from talking too long to the police.
There are many more posts from Clint that you should read. When I first found TRP, I spent a week reading through every single post and archive I could find. Newbies these days may not do that, so this is a chance to get to know some of the greats.
I recommend you go through his (and others) post history and read everything you can.
Conclusion.
- Read through not so famous posters history. There are hidden gems that don't get the spotlight they deserve or fall into obscurity with the rise of personal brands.
- The message is more important than the person. Sure, IM, Rollo and others are essentially the Manosphere, but others who stay anon and small also shaped many people and helped in other facets of human life.
If this gains traction I will be shedding some light to other not so famous posters who deserve their credit and have stopped posting.
nebder 5y ago
I had 80% of a draft written up on how to finger blast a gal. The squirting guide is everything I was writing and more. What’s old is new and new is old.
278209AR948Q 5y ago
Write and publish your post. The public will be the judge. Everything has been written before, but there are new ways to present old knowledge.
buttgoogler 5y ago
Thank you for this, good sir.
No clue how the fuck i managed to avoid these gems.
CainPrice 5y ago
The "manosphere" is, essentially, a giant, primarily internet-based discussion. What does it mean to be a man? What are good (e.g., successful) ways to be a man? What are pitfalls to avoid? What are some of the struggles men face and how to avoid or overcome time?
It's a bunch of guys who realized that the answers aren't out there, or are elusive, that aren't necessarily delivering the answers, but are promoting the discussion and adding to it. Ultimately, we're all individual guys with individual goals, and there's no "right" or "wrong" way to be, but there are a lot of possible things to do or to avoid as a man, and being able to talk to other men about this, hear their thoughts, refine your own - it's not all that different from a bunch of Greek guys in sheets sitting around asking each other questions, a bunch of rabbis arguing over how to interpret an event, the pope and a group of cardinals figuring out how to relate to the people, executives in a boardroom discussing how to improve the numbers, or any other number of culturally similar gatherings, past or present.
On one hand, the people you've heard of have been heard of for a reason. They've contributed a lot to the discussion.
On the other hand, disenfranchised men desperate for answers have been a segment of the world population ripe for preying on for ages. Why do you think it's so easy to talk some of them into strapping bombs to themselves and blowing up Jews and Westerners?
"Famous" manosphere voices should be taken with a grain of salt. Because behind every positive contribution to the discussion is a man creating a brand for himself. A man becoming known for his contribution. At some point, you have to wonder if it ceases to be about the discussion for some of the men, and starts to be more about their brand. Even if they're not making money out of it, there's a certain status and notoriety that comes with having an established brand.
At the end of the day, the question is "Did what I read make me think about something that I can do or change to make my life better?" Not "Was what I read written by somebody I like and admire?"
278209AR948Q 5y ago
I found trp in the Fall of 2014. Ever since day one I understood that most EC's and contributors spent 1-2 years there and eventually moved on.
Once you figure out how to get laid you start wanting to find the redpill in other aspects, such as building wealth and power.
I have a high respect for the EC's and mods here, purely because without them, many others and myself would be lost.
Everything here is free, and I understand that people who have given invaluable advice will want to earn a bit of income. We are talking about guys who have blogs, books and podcasts.
The way to monetize is up to them. I vote with my money and attention.
Today I wanted to shed some light on someone who I don't know who deserves attention in the day and age of personal branding.
There reaches a point where you can rehash the same content, so it's positive in my opinion to bring out some lesser known topics.
CainPrice 5y ago
Agreed. Any time I type something, I try to put some kind of new thought or spin I haven't seen before on The Red Pill into it, but I wouldn't be surprised if some guy five years ago said the exact same things I typed yesterday.
We might have already hit the point where everybody's just rehashing the same content, but maybe saying something a different way, with a slightly different spin will make someone else think about it a little differently, and they say something back that's a little different, and someone else reads it and benefits. One can dream, anyway.
278209AR948Q 5y ago
If you think about it, everything that we say, think and do has been said, thought and done by somebody else in the past.
Everything is a mixture of other's opinions, thoughts and actions.
What changes is how we mix the ingredients to make the final recipe adding a small touch of uniqueness.
Only because you reached a same point that someone else did in the past doesn't mean that you did by going the same path. Everybody has something unique to offer, and while there will be no other IM or Rollo, we are all here to exchange notes.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
Man you're going back. Like cuckoo9 or isolos back.
278209AR948Q 5y ago
Hello Ryan. Thanks for the suggestion of both users, as I didn't know of them before.
Like I answered in the other comment, I have been here for a while and there are users who don't write anymore who newer people should definitely learn from.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
I love it honestly
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Proto_Sigma 5y ago
u/Archwinger quit? He was my favorite!
278209AR948Q 5y ago
Omlala is the next one I'm doing. Archwinger and Whisper are more well known (I think).
I heard /u/Rian_Stone was doing something simmilar like the Book of Pook for Archwinger?
Rian_Stone 5y ago
https://www.rianstone.com/blog/2018/11/12/the-archwinger-series-we-are-here-for-the-unhappy
Yeah, bi don't want guys stuff to disappear
278209AR948Q 5y ago
Very solid post Rian. Looking forward for more.
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Rian_Stone 5y ago
Archwinger needs an editor, it's his post.
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Rian_Stone 5y ago
You're not wrong though. I do need an editor
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SKRedPill 5y ago
Idolatory is the bane of self realization, the religion of the betas (Religion itself IS beta methinks). And Twitter's damned full of 'em fanboys. When the focus becomes more on the messenger's quirks than the truth of the message, that's when the endeavour is lost.
Tell you what, the moment you are a fanboy and feelings override intelligence, you've just converted to betaism and lost the plot already.
The dimension of knowing the path is now near saturation. Almost everything that can be written is now known, better than at any other time in history. Now it's about walking the path, and living it will throw up fine details and nuances that can never be taught.
That saturation point is where most of us feel done with visiting this place every day. We will of course refresh the lessons from time to time. But hey, no religious fervour please.
TheBadGoy 5y ago
Lol I guess we all have a TRP dad, mine were theultimatecad and Archwinger
278209AR948Q 5y ago
The medium os the message. Imagine if in Twitter you didn't "follow", but "subscribe" instead. I know it's only semantics but it matters a lot. You put yourself as a follower and it implies many things.
Places like 4Chan, who are anonymous, don't have a problem with idolatry. Here in the subreddit there isn't that much, because we are all semi anon.
I can either put the spotlight in posts by theme, or by person. Posts that are in the sidebar are on the sidebar for a reason, but there are others that are quality too.
There are only so many posts we can read that say go lift. That is why once you've internalized the core teachings most people move on.
ReeZoX 5y ago
I would definitely want recommendations on "older" users that have posts worthwhile to read.
moltenw 5y ago
Definitely would like to see some more names come up, really enjoyed some of Clint Redwood's posts just now due to your post.
278209AR948Q 5y ago
I highly recommend sorting the popular posts of the subreddit and read everything that you haven't already.
moltenw 5y ago
Yeah, have done that for a lot of posts in the past. Definitely a recommended approach to reading TRP.
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I remember those business posts. Some of the best posts I've read.
Thanks Clint.
angryomlette 5y ago
Thanks man. I had forgotten some of those lessons and needed them badly.
278209AR948Q 5y ago
When in trouble and doubt, it's good to go back to the basics.
SKRedPill 5y ago
> In the surge of personal branding on other platforms, it is easy to re-write history and think that Rollo and IM created the Red Pill alone.
Neither Roosh nor Rollo nor IM nor anyone created this, although they did bring it to light in modern ways by trusting experience and their own frames over propaganda. If you were to take it literally, the phrase itself was thought out by the Wachowski Brothers for a movie for a totally different context - and speaking of them, they aren't brothers anymore, cause one of them decided he was really a woman. The irony...
The Red Pill is just a way of packaging of stuff that society knew for millennia, that was briefly forgotten for a while in modern times. There was a reason why old societies and religions and disciplines were structured the way they were. And yet, I'd say the level of compilation of this knowledge in modern times is unique - no one probably had access to so much knowledge in one place before.
It has made women utterly predictable to me now. There was really no big mystery there.
278209AR948Q 5y ago
I agree with you. When I mean "The Red Pill" and "Manosphere" I speak of the forums, blogs and subreddit that form it today. Before all of this there was SoSuave, for example.
Before the internet, there were private clubs and common knowledge passed on from father to son.
What I observe today, on Twitter, is that many who found us trough Twitter first think that the Manosphere and TRP are guys like Rollo or IM. While they deserve the credit they get, and we owe them so much, they aren't the only ones who have made this like it is today.
SimplyKaz 5y ago
I can't seem to access any of the archives. Do you have another link?
278209AR948Q 5y ago
That's weird. If you click on the username and sort his posts by popular, most will be in the first page.
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