Summary: This is a list of red flags and green flags for your unicorn hunting. Please note that one or two red flags or one or two green flags are not always disqualifying or qualifying factors for LTR. Always use a "total average score approach". Always consider that some red flags are just "warning flags" rather than negative red flags in and of themselves.
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Warning flag (WF) vs a Red flag (RF):
Having a lack of father figure or a neglecting/abusive parental figure is a warning-flag, it isn't a red-flag. It is a flag where you watch for other signs or symptoms of this history. It is not in and of itself a disqualifying factor. No one gets to choose their parents, so why hold it against them? It's definitely something to look for and see what effects they manifest into.
Be careful about the way you judge men vs women. You have to balance the scale. There's a different grading tool for men versus for women.
(this is a generalization and is not always accurate) Typically compared to men, women will typically (not always, I have a girl who has a better degree than I do):
- be less successful in career/life.
- be more moody and have mood swings
- be more emotional. Little things can make them happy, annoyed, or sad a lot more often. "my husband never does this, but my husbands' friend, he just washed the dishes after dinner. tear"
- be exhibit more pronounced signs of personality disorders because people let them get away with stuff
- be more likely to exaggerate or talk to you about problems that are not really problems or are not as bad as they described it to you.
- be less likely to think in terms of gray, and more likely to think in black-and-white.
- be likely to avoid conflict/confrontation.
Red-flags (RFs) [red flags are negative traits that can be disqualifying if there's a lot of them]:
- alcohol / drug addiction. Don't believe her words either like "oh im a social drinker". Just look for signs. But sometimes they have a legitimate excuse too (loss of family recently). Yes you can even be mentally addicted to marijuana too. The more illegal the activity, the more dangerous and red-flag this is.
- Binge shopping, debt, & declining credit cards This is a red flag in most cases. But there is one exception I've found. A rich girl from a wealthy family who has tons of money in her debit card but forgets to put it on her credit card.
- Talking to ex's all the time. Making friends with random guys who are clearly thirsty betas instead of just ignoring them for you.
- Tattoos/abnormal-piercings/short-hair(like a boy's)/fully-colored-neon-hair. Sometimes girls talk about this without actually doing it and that's ok. A strand of hair colored is OK.
- Being blatantly manipulative to others in front of you, as a way to impress you. Or manipulative to just you.
- high-doses of entitlement or grandiosity. "you should really buy me that"... "people help do my work all the time."
- high-doses of self-victimization. "everyone is always oppressing me."
- A history with criminal activity that isn't minor. Don't date criminals, it's just too dangerous and can cause you irreparable harm.
- Narcissistic or Borderline personality disorder. Characterized by lack of empathy, manipulations, and incredible anger/mood-swings that are beyond normal.
- STDs or terminal-diseases, don't put yourself through this. You might get the urge to empathize and help them, but you don't owe anyone anything.
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trivial things enrage her / drama-queen.
e.g. "Did you really do [something you cannot control] in front of me? How dare you? What is wrong with you? You're a fucked up person." ...
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Brain incapacity to distinguish between Intentional vs Unintentional actions (the inability to understand the difference between intentional, accidental, neglectful). This can be a red flag for both men and women as it indicates low intelligence.
e.g. "Did you really do [something accidentally]? Why would you do this? Why are you trying to hurt me?" (inability to separate intentionally evil versus unintentional consequences of well-meaning actions, noam chomsky is particularly infamous for being unable to distinguish this nuance and the amount of fans he has, well, that's because a lot of people are incapable of this analytical skill too).
- Likes to go out all the time without you. Not to meet up with friends but likes attention/validation from strangers. I don't mean "going out with the girls tonight". I mean "I felt like hanging out in X bar/club last night."
- Lack of Empathy, some girls will fake empathy like love of animals or helping the poor, while not caring about your feelings or desires or needs.
- Doesn't care if you orgasm, only cares for her own.
- Depressive, problem-creator, gas-lighter. She will create problems and blame you or she will tell you about depressive stories about herself all the time without listening to your stories. She will create problems out of nothing. She will blame you even when she did something while not taking your advice.
- Impulsiveness, pressuring people to drunk drive. Pressuring others to do illegal activities. Doing dangerous stunts. Randomly changing decisions and forcing you to do something crazy.
- Passive-aggressiveness or avoiding confrontation to the point that they lie and hide things from you.
One or two red-flags is manageable but can disqualify from LTR depending on what you tolerate.
Warning Flags (WFs) [warning flags can indicate an underlying or future problem, but cannot disqualify someone because it doesn't mean they are broken just because of this]
%%%%% Warning flags are NOT NEGATIVE TRAITS. They are simply indications of possible OTHER problems to watch out for. %%%%%%
- Neglectful/abusive parents. It is possible that neglectful childhood will make a neglecting mother. Neglect leads to criminally delinquent or psychotic children.
- childhood abuse. This can be a serious red flag in many cases because it is a very traumatic event that can manifest itself in many ways. Usually with LMR, inability to take off clothes, fear of sex, fear of being touched.
- Seeing a psychiatrist for a non-depression/non-anxiety personality disorder. Most honest women will come clean if they have a personality disorder. But some will try to hide it and sometimes their disorder will make them want to lie to you about it. Some of them can be managed so it is a warning flag only but it should be noted that PDs can be passed onto kids.
- Having only guy friends (not ex-boyfriend friends). Having a lack of female friends.
- Using powerful words in the wrong context/definition, "molest", "oppress", "torture", "rape", "genocide", "abuse", "illegal" like as if they are watered down versions of it.
- Doesn't do you any sexual favors/desires except for the position and thing she wants.
- Inability to hold down a job or laziness in looking for jobs. Expects others to provide for her. There are exceptions: (1) studying more than working (2) wealthy family so doesn't feel the need to get a job.
- Religious. Religious people see the world in black-and-white moral terms. More likely to be pro-life and force you into a marriage/having-kids/paying-child-support. More likely to be highly offended by something you do or something about your life that they cannot reconcile with their belief in God. They will absolutely brainwash any kids you two might have in a damaging way even if they promise they won't.
- Control freak / health freak. Inability to eat normal things. Constantly complains at restaurants. Trying to control other peoples' behaviors all the time. Using her vagina as a weapon/bargaining-chip to draw out the beta in you. This isn't a red flag because men also use their attention/validation/commitment as a weapon/bargaining chip at times, and so it is acceptable at times to get what you want in a relationship.
- highly OCD. Getting pissed at small messes or because you left a glass somewhere or because you didn't clean something small and trivial.
- Irresponsibility. Constantly avoiding responsibilities. Neglecting duties. Trying to escape the world.
Green flags (GRFs) [positive traits and signs that unicorns would have. A lot of it is the opposite of the above]
- Responsible. financially, doing chores, school/job responsible behavior, alcohol responsible behavior.
- Empathetic.
- Hard-work ethic
- Sports/gym routines.
- Doing you favors in the bedroom or elsewhere that she had NO REASON to need to do.
- Slightly moderate/conservative in the things she does. Likes traditions and and traditional male-female roles.
- Being generous to others
- Self-discipline and controlling her own behaviors or trying hard to control them.
- Clingyness (yes this is something that drives some guys away, but it is a green flag, because it is honesty. An honest person, does like to be clingy to those they like to be around. Even a beta being clingy to a girl, is just being honest about what he wants. Same for girls being clingy to you. It's a good sign if you can tolerate it).
- Happy/positive/optimistic attitude.
- Doesn't easily get mad or irritated.
- Can talk rationally or a mature adult without getting mad at anything.
- Accepts your ideas and is submissive to your suggestions or proposals.
- When you challenge her, she acknowledges your views and/or changes her mind about an issue frequently when challenged.
- Does things that are designed because she is anxious or fearful that you might get angry/irritated with her. So she pre-empts it by doing things out of respect for you.
- Nurturing/kind behavior to others, even animals.
- Enjoys it when you make decisions for her.
- Hobbies, interests, reading non-fiction (indicates intelligence), all positive signs
P.S. sometimes these flags depend on what you tolerate. I've dated a girl who had a large number of these WFs and RFs, and it was perfectly fine for an LTR. Nothing bad happened except the occasional getting mad at each other type thing.
Sometimes the GRFs will outnumber the WFs or RFs. You should use a whole-person total value approach.
Lessons to Learn:
- Do not try to fix someone with a serious red-flag that you find damaging. If you feel the need to fix "birds with broken wings" and the need to solve their problems for them even though the damage they cause you, then you may have what's called codependency / dependency personality disorder. You depend on them for your self-worth and you tolerate their bullshit because you want to feel like a savior.
Sir_Distic 9y ago
Why are tattoos/body piercings or colored hair a bad thing? Is it indicative of a mental illness? Because I prefer tatted/pierced girls. That's my preference.
tigerjaws 9y ago
As for the short hair /fullycoloredneon hair thing it's a serious sign that they're an SJW brainwashed feminist who believes all the shit she's told and will lecture you about rape culture and sexism while you fuck her
Sir_Distic 9y ago
Not in my experience. I've met a few who were just cockhungry.
trpftw 9y ago
No it isn't. But they tend to be more rebellious and willing to break rules and social norms. They'd be more likely to cheat on you because they do what they want.
Sir_Distic 9y ago
Ok, so they're preferable for a plate but not LTR. I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.
Entrefut 9y ago
Religion. This is such a hard topic for me and women. It means something different to every one and it generally means one thing to me, delusional. While it might be comforting to imagine yourself floating away and seeing all your friends and family when you die, it just won't happen. When you die, you're dead. The chemical concoction released into your brain will surely make it seem like something amazing is happening, but from biological standpoint, you're pretty damn similar to a monkey and not monkey went to heaven.
When was the cut off between floating off to heaven and not, in terms of evolution? What's more likely, that we subtly evolved the ability to fling our "spirit" out of our body at the time of dying, or that it sounds really nice, so let's put it in a book along with tons of other promises and feel good passages, then use it to control large bodies of people and tell them am all powerful merciless being is watching over their every move and if they don't abide, they don't fly up to heaven. There's no heaven, you get one chance, you get to face your death for what it is, the scariest thing that can happen to you.
This makes you a more motivated person. You're not here for the good time anymore, you're here to leave a mark. You're here to make a change. Youre here for the same reason every other biological organism is, to survive. Are you really that afraid of dying? Good, go find out how to make people living longer, even if it's for selfish reasons. Workout every day, because without it, you'll die early. Death has always been one of the number one motivators of innovation, just look at the medical field. Join the party, scare yourself into productivity and admit that you're a biological creature who isnt special because you have a brain, but who's special because you've left a mark on the world.
This goes for the christianity, catholic and Mormon religions. I'll openly admit I know very little about the others, besides some aspect of buddhism. Having a girl tell me she is religious is a turn off. I really can't wait for everyone to wake the fuck up.
tigerjaws 9y ago
Eh I'd argue that being religious makes you a more motivated person than not being religious. You seem to be familiar with Christianity so I'll just talk about that. The ultimate goal of any religion (Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, etc) is to reach salvation/enlightenment/whateverthefuckyouwanttocallit. Each of these has it's own teachings about it but one common to everything is the denial of the self and the importance of you contributing to your community/society. Regardless of whether or not you believe in the afterlife or the divinity claims of historical figures, the message behind a lot of religions is to change your life for the better. 10 commandments, 8thfoldpath/4noble truths all that shit is meant to make your life better. It's pretty ignorant to say that people who are religious are ignorant because most of the influential people in history were religious (or believed in the concept of some deity).
As for girls being religious, besides the whole downside (that is if you're establishing an LTR with her) of her wanting you to convert and follow her customs - it shows that she at least has some respect for a culture and tradition that's centuries/millenia old. I'd rather have an LTR with a loyal Christian girl who respects traditional gender roles who's only ever fucked you than some sexually liberated slut who's sucked 300 dicks. Read some shit man, don't make blanket statements There's more to religion than just afterlife stuff The majority of it is a code of conduct on how to live your life
Entrefut 9y ago
The entire code of conduct is based on a reward system that is delusional and only works because you're already dead. Yeah it was a great system before things like science happened. But now we don't need organized religion to love your life. We have a law system that punishes criminals (usually just the dumb ones) and we have the internet, a never ending resource of perspective and knowledge. Religion doesn't have a place. And honestly the religious girls are huge sluts. They make awesome plates and really don't live up to the religious expectations, because all it takes is one guy who isnt delusional to shine some light on the subject and they'll usually admit they never really bought into the whole thing. They follow it, yet they somehow knew it was based on erroneous information. Religion has also been a great scapegoat for wars and currently is one right now. If those areas of the world were educated with science instead of brainwashed by faith, we'd be making huge progress as a race, instead of fighting over "holy ground" or whatever delusional thoughts the guys at the top are promoting so they can stir up trouble and turn a profit.
Entrefut 9y ago
I'd never kill myself, this is the only chance I get. And I already know what happens...
EndowedTurtle 9y ago
You sound really bitter and jaded about religion, like somehow you were slighted by it and never bothered looking past the basics of it.
I don't mean to call you out or demean you, but you have to be pretty willfully ignorant to avoid looking into or understanding the basics of religion. Check out the book of Gnosis or even just a really really reduced/translated Bible. If you read it, you might find wisdom in the words. Don't take everything you read literally, it's not meant to be understood like that. Tbh most of the old testament is like OG TRP knowledge stated in a way for the masses to get scared of.
Don't be close-minded to the things history has to offer. Nobody can prepare for the future blindly, they must look to the past and do the same or differently as those in the past have.
tigerjaws 9y ago
Exactly man, you don't have to just dispose of something just because you don't agree with it and as for old testament being OG TRP it says shit like '"This is the way of an adulterous woman: She eats and wipes her mouth and says, 'I've done nothing wrong.'
EndowedTurtle 9y ago
A wise man will take into account all aspects of this surroundings when making a decision. Put some other frames of reference in to you own!
Entrefut 9y ago
When you die, what happens?
tigerjaws 9y ago
I don't know, kill yourself and find out
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103342 9y ago
Just remember that she actually has to practice those hobbies.
A LOT of girls start hobbies just to add some shit on facebook and then stop doing it after a couple of months.
tigerjaws 9y ago
LOL oh yeah I do guitar (can play 2 chords), i dance (took a class when she was 6), gymnastics (never stepped foot in a gym), yoga (doesn't actually do it, just wears the pants), and reading (reads shit like hunger games and fault in our stars)
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tigerjaws 9y ago
Reminds me of a chick I had oneitis for before I found TRP. She's this wealthy girl of liberal parents living in one of the most liberal parts of the country and she starts talking to me about how she's 'soooooo buddhist' and I ask her if her life goal really is to reach enlightenment and follow the 8fold path and the 4noble truths and I'll never forget what she told me "oh no I don't actually believe in all that shit, I just like telling people I'm Buddhist' fucking women
4benny2lava0 9y ago
I know some arabs who did the same thing with a religion
trpftw 9y ago
Buddhism is a bit more logical of a religion so that's fine. Their only problem seems to occur with their inability to accept violence, self-defense, and even hurting bugs. They tend to become very passive.
Sure a lot might be pseudo-buddhists and people who take what they want, but that's the same with all religions, they take what they want like a buffet and discard rules/ideas they don't like.
Really, a little bit of religious views is perfectly fine and normal. Some just tend to have an OCD-version of religion, and that's a big red flag.
ConnorGracie 9y ago
Colored contacts for redflags anyone?
Throwaway9665 9y ago
I've only seen these in black women recently, is this a race/culture thing now? Or just sampling error?
tigerjaws 9y ago
I see it more of a sign of insecurity. Same way these bitches color their hair, they just want to have a more favorable eye color. Could mean shes' incredibly insecure though
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trpftw 9y ago
Ah another reason I probably didn't get 100 upvotes. So many Noam Chomsky fans who failed to analyze that Chomsky can't seem to tell the difference between those who neglect, those who make mistakes, and those who intentionally harm. A critical skill when analyzing foreign policy that Chomsky frequently fails. Exactly why he isn't respected outside of linguistics.
But that's ok right because Chomsky loves peace therefore, he must be respected right?
Throwaway9665 9y ago
Fake Internet points are fake. Judge your contribution by its internal quality; don't be afraid to call another man out for his shortcomings because we all have them, and men interested in self-improvement will attempt to remedy valid criticisms. Fanboys can fuck themselves.
trpftw 9y ago
Yeah. I could have edited my post to be "less controversial" and "more appealing" but I am not afraid of people getting pissed at me for expressing things they don't wanna hear.
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trpftw 9y ago
Only to some level. Some go overboard indicating a rebellious anti-social attitude. As a way to rebel against authority. As a way to express their anger.
Earrings are fine. But some again, go overboard and it indicates strange behavior.
Lesbians love short hair too. It makes them look like teenaged boys.
Yes much of the prison population are people with low-impulse control.
Difference between being CLEAN and being OCD. You get diagnosed with OCD when you start disturbing others with your OCD. I've heard things like "you should piss while sitting down" kind of ridiculous levels of it. No one wants to be dictated to by a girl with that bad of an OCD. It's disturbing. It's psychologically abnormal and requires medication.
Warning flags are not NEGATIVE TRAITS. They are warnings
Warning flags are not NEGATIVE TRAITS. They are warnings
Most of TRP would immediately NOPE the fuck out of any girl with abuse/neglect history. I'm being very open-minded and saying that it's OK to have such a history, only that it can be a warning flag RATHER THAN A RED FLAG LIKE MOST OF TRP would NOPE out of.
Religious people are irrational and so it is not an "asshole thing" to not want irrational people who believe in fantasies and obsess about it. Moderate religious is fine but some of them take it to an extreme. They see the world black and white and will condemn you as "the enemy" if you do something to offend their morality. They will be pro-life, so if you get her pregnant, guess what, you're having that baby and the state will force you to pay for it.
Yeah sure, but it's a warning flag for a reason. Because it can indicate deeper issues.
Warning flags are not NEGATIVE TRAITS. They are warnings
Warning flags are not NEGATIVE TRAITS. They are warnings
Warning flags are not NEGATIVE TRAITS. They are warnings
It means they are more interested in learning about the world than fantasizing about it. That's why I said it's a GREEN flag. Reading anything is a green flag, but non-fiction means that she is smarter than your average person.
Can you just fuck off you ignorant cunt? There's no point in talking to an irrational emotional person like you.
Perhaps you are offended by this post because you exhibit the same red flags in your own personal life and it offends you. Seek psychiatric help for your blatant hostility.
[deleted] 9y ago
You are getting trolled, this is text book. The side bar has a list of ways people troll here and we'll this person hasn't said anything new
SocialJusticeWhiner 9y ago
I enjoyed your post OP, but please don't feed the trolls/idiots. If we ignore and downvote them maybe they'll fuck off. He's just wasting your time & energy.
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Philhelm 9y ago
I would argue that those things are red flags since those women are essentially discarding the beautiful frailty of femininity in order to become the female version of the "bad boy." They might be fun to fuck, but they aren't acceptable for LTR, marriage, or child-bearing. In addition, short hair is simply unacceptable.
Perhaps you are confusing impulsiveness and spontaneity? Impulsiveness is definitely not a virtue.
It's a red flag since these women will tend to have emotional and behavioral problems that will have a negative impact on the man's life.
Being obsessive about anything is not a good trait. Besides, it's just a red flag, and not necessarily an automatic deal-breaker as the OP explained about his red flag "system."
Religious can be a good thing, but it depends upon the religion and how extreme the woman is. If someone is married to a woman who believes that adultery is a sin, that can be a good thing. If she is persuading you to get bitten by a rattlesnake, that is a bad thing.
A girl not being "girly" is a huge red flag. Another reason that having a lot of male "friends" is a red flag is that men and women can never truly be just friends.
Nonfiction is a green flag since it shows a thirst for knowledge and self-improvement.
Again, a lack of femininity is a huge red flag.
No, he wants a damsel in distress (feminine woman) as opposed to a cursing, drinking, smoking, burping, farting, woman with short, purple hair, a thousand facial piercings, a tattoo sleeve, and acts like one of the guys.
Goodguystalker 9y ago
I have almost no words. I've always thought people on TRP can't be that bad, people exaggerate. Nope people really are just awful.
First of all, short hair can be very feminine and beautiful. And a person's hair style has very little to do with their personality
There are many contradicting studies on this, and just because someone might be slightly more likely to have problems, it isn't a warning flag
This isn't a red flag, a girl doesn't have to be stereotypically girly to be a great gf. And yes men and women can absolutely be just friends. I have multiple friends who are girls who I can honestly say I have never been attracted to. Saying that just because someone is the opposite sex means you want to fuck them is just ridiculous. Get a clue, just because you want to fuck everything that moves doesn't mean a normal person behaves that way. If my gf hangs out with a guy I have enough trust to know nothing is going to happen. Some of my best friends are girls and some of my GFs best friends are guys.
Yes but what is so special about non fiction? Why not just reading in general?
No, not at all. Especially since what you consider femininity is just absurd.
Oh for fuck sake. Women can't smoke, drink, curse, fart, burp, have tattoos, or have short hair? I suggest you move to Pennsylvania and marry a nice Amish woman, because they fit your 1700s idea of what a woman should be
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The whole point is that our culture feeds into women's desire to be pampered to, given attention, and demands nothing of them. Maybe in a society that gives women some agency these things wouldn't be a problem, instead we have to filter out any girl who endulges to much in any of her biological drives. This sub isn't anti woman, it's just trying to make sense of the modern western woman and her feminist indoctrination.
Goodguystalker 9y ago
...I have no words. That is just the stupidest thing I have ever heard. This sub really is the toxic sesspool of sad sad boys that everyone says it is.
[deleted] 9y ago
Why are we sad lol? Oh yeah we've been living a lie. I'm the happiest I've been in years thanks to red pill. Why are you so angry?
Goodguystalker 9y ago
Do you realize how ridiculous this alone is? And I'm not angry. I have a great life with a great gf who I don't try to control. I don't care if she burps or drinks or does anything else I would do.
Honestly most of this sub is just ridiculous. Have you read this post alone? A girl having short hair is a red flag? Ffs, it's hard for me to even take you twats seriously
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It's not controlling lol the point of red pill is to let her know from the start what you are about. Red pill doesn't really work mid relationship but it can fix things. You are approaching it from the wrong angle. If I can tell a girl what I want and she stays that isn't my fault. She is an adult. If red pill didn't work why would we all love it
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