SUMMARY: Men in the West often over-idealize Eastern European and Southeast Asian women as "classic" and "different" than the third-wave feminists of the West. But, still, AWALT.

As a prelude, I'm not writing some grand post here and I'm not really going deep into Red Pill philosophy. What I would like to do is simply share some first-person observations of dating local women while living in Thailand.

Also - as a prelude - I'm really sick of everyone back home (from the US) automatically asking of my experiences, "Are you sure she's not a Ladyboy/prostitute."

Yes, there are a lot of Ladyboys - most of them are super cool, actually, and also SUPER easy to tell apart. Yes, there are a lot of "bar girls" who will sleep with you for money OR make you think they're your girlfriend in exchange for money.

If you're not a fucking idiot, you have nothing to worry about. If you pick up a girl who looks too good to be true in the red-light district, she's probably a Ladyboy prostitute. And, often, the Ladyboys here look ten times sexier than the girls - unfortunately this is one of the ways to tell them apart.

QUICK BACK-STORY: I've been digesting Red Pill theory for four years. I'm 29. However, I've only been on r/theredpill for a couple of months and have found a wealth of new information, books, and posts I had not heard of before. Just...late to Reddit in general, really.

I left Atlanta, Georgia where I'm from after dating a girl I REALLY liked (Oneitis, even though I insisted the relationship be open). I planned on traveling Thailand - and other areas in Southeast Asia until February - and bringing her to visit in October and at the end of December.

Within two weeks - after "I love you" and "I miss you" and plenty of dirty Snapchats, I receive a very simple message - "I don't think it's going to work out. Wish you the best"

Cold, distant, cutting.

I was hurt. But, I knew the reason - the benefit of the association was gone. I found out that she had a "friend" (orbiter) who tried to get serious with her three years prior, but she was dating somebody. When she was single, he was dating somebody (they both had cheated on each other anyway).

He remained her "friend" (this is the first I heard about him) and as soon as I was gone she chose him as her next steady option.

Now, this girl was cool - she did nice things for me, like cook food occasionally. But, it was me primarily who did most of the "taking care of."

As someone who has just started making significant amounts of money with my own online revenue streams, this is the first relationship in which I had no problem spending money - going out to nice dinners, comedy shows, and paying for everything. It made me feel good to pay - it wasn't about her. It was about me enjoying the financial mobility I had accumulated and for once having the means to spend money as I saw fit.

There have been plenty of women in my life who have done "nice things" for me on occasion.

Yet, Thai girls take this to a completely different level.

My Experiences Thus Far of Thai Women Versus The Western Women I have Known And Dated

I work online and from home. I am staying in a nice, spacious bungalow on Koh Phangan right now - a gorgeous tropical island in the gulf of Thailand.

Even though it's all good, I often get stuck inside all day until the evenings when I train Muay Thai or go lift.

Today, the girl that I met a couple of weeks ago at a bar (she is the manager) - a cute little 29-year-old wood-nymph girl with a firecracker of a personality and the cute broken-English to boot - and whom I slept with the first night of meeting, messaged me on Facebook.

"You hungry? You eat yet?"

"No - I not eat yet" I said, speaking the customary broken English necessary to communicate with her.

"You want I bring you food?"

"Yes - I want"

This girl - today - did something I've never seen any other girl do in my life. She brought me food, grabbed dishes, and began preparing the food for me (even though it was take-away it involved preparation).

When I initially began opening the bag, she said, "No - you my king. I do for you."

After she fed me - at times literally by spooning certain appetizers directly to me to try - she then took my foot and placed it upon her thighs. She rubbed my feet and then clipped my toe nails. She then proceeded to clip my finger nails.

She then washed the dishes, swept the porch, and sucked me off.

She kissed me, brought me a beer, and said "Okay I go now - let you work busy busy man."

I have never, in my entire existence as a male, experienced such one-sided care-taking before (my own mother wouldn't do that shit).

This is not unusual. Another girl (yes I'm spinning plates) literally sat and shelled ALL the sunflower seeds in a bag - one-by-one - and gave me the seed inside individually while we watched a movie.

I had sex with another girl, walked outside to talk to my neighbor (a cool dude from Seattle), and when I came in she had cleaned my bathroom, swept my floor, made my bed, aligned my belongings, and folded my laundry.

THESE are the actions that make men think that women in these countries are inherently different from Western women.

However, even though it's tempting to think this, my reading of Red Pill theory has proven just as true and relevant here as it has with any Western woman.

The Stuff That is The Same

  • Shit Tests - Women, from one location to another, are not somehow going to be biologically different in their mating strategy and imperatives than anywhere else. The astounding thing - to me - is that even though I'm in another culture and the women here are seemingly so much more different and "caring", the shit tests are the EXACT same.

The girl that I'm seeing right now has hit me with compliance test after compliance test from the start.

"Okay I go now - you give me 100 baht for gas?"

"No - you have job, you pay for gas"

::pouts:: "You no good man, you no take care of lady"

Or, at the famous full moon party just last weekend.

"You buy me bucket?!"

She legitimately, at this time, did not have money and you typically share alcohol buckets, so I said "One bucket I buy you"

Again, ::pouting:: "Why only one bucket?"

As soon as that bucket was over she yells, "Why you no ask if I want another bucket! You no good man! Good man ask lady if she want more drink!"

I ignored her, walked away, and she came chasing after me, "I sorry, I sorry! Okay, you no buy bucket."

I've been met with constant tests to see if I'll bend and grovel at her feet when she accuses me of sleeping with EVERY girl I talk to.

"Who this girl? How long you know her? You fuck her? I no talk to you, you fuck this girl"

"Okay - you no talk to me, I no talk to you" I say.

Then there is the reverse of that. A side-dude here is called a "Gik" pronounced "geek".

So, she asks to come over - even though I'm working - and I refuse. She then says "I talk my gik then, my gik come over with me tonight."

"Okay I say"

Then the reverse, "I NO HAVE GIK! BUT YOU HAVE GIRL - I NOT STUPIT!"

And I ignore.

I see so many foreign guys here - "farangs" - get roped into this behavior, under the assumption that these girls aren't the "same" as Western women.

They see the "caring", seemingly selfless acts of near servitude of these girls and react with blind subservience, all but groveling at the feet of their Thai girlfriends doing anything they can to please them.

In Thailand there is a saying, and you hear it all the time, "Same same, but different."

That exactly sums up my experiences with the women here - same same, but different.

LESSONS LEARNED No matter where you are - AWALT.