Very long time lurker here, giving you a foolproof guide to anyone struggling to fully incorporate the red pill, or anyone who wants some general tips that have personally worked and have absolutely changed my life.
This is NOT a go lift, be stoic, shit-test etc guide, although these are essential, they require deeper reading. These are just my own personal methods of what worked very well for me, and helped me out of the bitterness stage very quickly.
Step 1: Tabula rasa
What the fuck is tabula rasa you ask? It is latin for 'blank slate'. It is to me personally the most important step and I like the latin words. Everything that has happened in your life up to now is history. Dwelling on paths not chosen is the best way to end up in a cycle of self-pity. Nothing will be the bane of your existence more than regretting the past, that I guarantee.
Step 2: Adapt or die
This links in with step one about regret and a key principle of the red pill. Deal with the facts in front of you and adapt to new situations. The world isn't cruel, people look out for themselves, and you have to look out for yourself. This is how the situation is and either move forward or fall into a ball of self-pity, lazy betaness and you may as well be dead. Just type in ISIS into Google and you will see people with real life and death problems.
Step 3: Assume the worst
You know that feeling you get when you say something really inappropriate and you hope people do not get the wrong impression? Assume they did in every single interaction. This may sound counter productive, and may or may not work for you, but it certainly did for me. If people constantly think the worst of you, you start to be totally natural in conversation and it helped me to sit back and NGAF
Step 4: See people as a single identity
When I was younger in high school, a lot of girls who were not in the top tier used to like me. Why? Because I was not interested in their physical attributes and I did not care how they viewed me. I was ultra confident and their opinion did not faze me. I was nothing like that with the hot girls, as I was conscious of their appearance and acting the polar opposite of my usual self almost as a defense mechanism of not wanting to screw up. This does not change as you get older, and can apply to interacting with men as well. You should not go around thinking people are beneath you at all, but don't treat new people differently especially women because they are hot. (within boundaries you need to work out for yourself, like with bosses). They have not done anything to earn your respect.
Step 5: Procrastination
Seriously do not need to write a lot on this. Make a conscious effort to be doing something constructive every minute of the day. It's ok to day dream for a few minutes, but if you are constantly refreshing your facebook you need to stop, delete it, or kill yourself. You are a fucking riot horse with the blinders on you to stop you getting distracted from the task at hand. Get it done. Again I won't go into detail about what 'constructive' is, there is plenty of info from other red pillers about good hobbies and interests.
Step 6: You can't change the world
Another frequent red pill lesson is you can only control yourself. Often the people who think they are going to change the world are often lazy and warped. I do not mean this to mean you can't do something great for humanity but the chances are people won't remember you when you die, and you are setting yourself up for big disappointment. This may not apply to you but if it does, get rid of these delusions of grandeur quick. This links in with changing peoples opinion on issues such as politics. Don't try to do it as it is generally a impossible task and can only lead to more bad than good. You are finland. If you stop all CO2 emissions its not going to affect the rest of the world in reality, since you are small. You can make life great for your country and the people in it, but its unlikely anyone else will follow. (Hypothetical before any killjoys jump in).
Quick word for newbies
You will see a fair bit of dislike on the red pill directed at women which can manifest itself as generalisations of our own. This is a natural response, you just have to make up your own mind about what you see. What is true though, is you have fundamentally been lied to and the Disney dream is unfortunately not real, and 'adapt or die' is the truth. But you must recognise men do some seriously depraved shit as well and while why the motivations behind it are different, are just as bad. If you really want to get over the bitterness towards women, have a browse of liveleak and see what men can do as well.
I think there is too much emphasis on women as a whole in the red pill anyway. Members say to 'not put the pussy on the pedestal', but post the most meaningless things about them. Its the same shit on a different day in my opinion. It is the same things we know just constantly churned out from bitter members. Threads posting pseudo science bullshit on dropping testosterone levels for those in LTRs for example . I love TRP, but the moaning all seems like a way of avoiding having to do something with your life. So if you are new, pick and choose the information carefully. You can EASILY sleep into a path of bitterness which makes it even harder to drag yourself out of.
Quick word on monk mode
Monk mode sounds great in theory but I find it can be a excuse for people to further isolate themselves from reality. Theory is very important, but experience is just as crucial. I personally think monk mode should be a short process of learning, and then on to basic training. Exposure is key here with all aspects of the red pill, and it is necessary to push yourself to exhaustion everyday until it is cemented. You may not like Will Smith, but he is correct when he says 'Skill is only developed by hours and hours and hours of beating on your craft'.
Leave comments if you disagree/would like to add anything else to it.
Dr_Shakalu22 8y ago
Appreciate this a lot, thanks for writing it up. However, the tabula rasa portion of the post is misinterpreted, at least in the philosophical sense in which most people use that term.
little_england 8y ago
Yeah it could well be. I just heard the term when studying John Locke's philosophy on people being born not 'good' or 'evil' just essentially a clean slate, so I thought it might stick out to newer readers.
Cyralea 8y ago
This is more blue-pill conditioning when you think about it. They are the words that you were told to think, but in truth it works against you. Narcissism isn't inherently a negative. The belief that you're better than others is a self-feeding source of confidence and determination. There are a handful of studies that show that narcissistic kids end up being far more successful than supposedly level-headed ones.
This is a sexual strategy sub, friend. You may as well tell the fitness sub they're too focused on exercise. If you've found a way to adapt this sub's information to pursue your other goals, more power to you, but you're avoiding this sub's primary purpose and claiming some moral higher ground, which is bullshit.
little_england 8y ago
All I am expressing is the guidelines I have followed. Although it may seem like I am telling people this is right this is wrong etc, I have essentially just changed 'I' to 'you'. The way I perceive TRP is different to everyone else s perspective.
I perceive TRP's sexual strategy is based on self-improvement, which is more important than anything in regards to forming sexual relationships, which come as a byproduct. I have found more abundance with women, when my focus has been no where near them and directed at my self. Women may the primary goal of TRP, but I have found that the solution to this is to take all emphasis off them. Again just my perspective, and I definitely not trying to take a moral high ground.
rpreader 8y ago
I'd like to reiterate your statement again: ADAPT OR DIE. Don't be bitter towards women. If they don't like you or treat you like shit that's on you. Theyre following their hardwiring. YOU need to adapt and work to your advantage. You're a man, its been said here before, no one will help you in life. You cant bitch and moan to get things solved for you like many attractive women can. No one will give a shit if you complain. Go out there and change yourself.
Oakland_dude 8y ago
There seems to be rampant "victim mentality" on this sub. Lots of whining and bitching about shitty things women do. RP is about changing from within. You nailed it. We need to take responsibility for our lives. Respect is commanded, not demanded.
CoolRunner 8y ago
Honestly, I think it would be a good idea to provide a subreddit specifically for men to bitch abiut women in a context like this. You gotta vent somewhere, why not to internet strangers?
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CrazyHorseInvincible 8y ago
No pissing contests. 14 days penalty box.
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circlhat 8y ago
This is bad advice and white knightning , women are responsible and respect men who hold them responsible.
They won't ever respect a men that says, "Oh its just her nature"
RedVillain 8y ago
I think you missed it. He's not talking about complaining about it, but owning it and changing your interactions accordingly. They absolutely will respect a man who is aware of their nature.
Dev_on 8y ago
it's not, his advice is fine.
also, no one says it, you're just supposed to internalize that into your mindset.
They look out for whats best for them, don't get angry, it's their nature. And it should be. Who would want a woman who just sacrafices themselves for a schlub?
circlhat 8y ago
He is saying women are hardwire therefore they don't count, we are also hardwire no different than women.
You make it seem women don't need to change or evolve ,
No, and people will treat you like shit regardless on how good you are. He is promoting if a women treats you like shit you must change yourself, rather than value yourself.
External validation is what is killing men, there is nothing wrong with you to began with
rpreader 8y ago
I as a man am hardwired towards the tendency of liking certain features of a woman due to evolutionary advantages she might have. Women have the tendency to want certain tendencies as well. What I'm saying is instead of bitching that women don't like you and wallowing in pity, you need to improve yourself for yourself, and women will tend to gravitate more towards you.
Yes people will treat you like shit. What I meant was you can either whine and complain about it and do nothing or man up, stand up for yourself ad cut them out of your life.
Dev_on 8y ago
you must be new here
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go ahead, I'll wait for you to finish
crimson-hound 8y ago
I totally support this. A lot of the "point the finger at women" talk on here I see as justified. It's all really just a step in swallowing the pill, learning that sometimes, women aren't wonderful.
However, a lot of the negativity leads toward solipsistic thinking in our own community as if men never do fucked up shit themselves. Plus, at the end of the day women are really free to do whatever the fuck they want and get as trashy as they want just like guys. Accept it and deal with it.
I think it's important to realize too that there's a shit ton of women in the world who don't actually support that "slutty empowered lifestyle" and lean more toward traditional roles, you just aren't going to run into them at the bar or nightclub and at the end of the day there's still the possibility that they might not be attracted to you. Too bad, so sad. That's life. Get over it and focus your time where it matters: building a future for yourself.
AFPJ 8y ago
Good intentions, here are some additions:
There's really three ways to go about your past. The bad - dwell on it, which you preach against. The neutral, to forget it altogether - which is delusion and what you suggest. And the good, to use it as motivation. Yeah, dwell on it. You've wasted years of your life and didn't have the balls to do things you wanted. Use that as motivation to never waste your time again & make sure you'll end up doing what you want to do. Don't discount your failures, use them.
A lot of guys here like to hamster that we're different from women in that our past doesn't matter - it matters every bit as much. Every year you spend going nowhere equals to a female year spent getting filled up with cocks. Didn't move up at work? 5 cocks. Out of work? 15 cocks. Homeless or on welfare? 100 cocks.
The only way we're different is that we can start moving forward & if we get far enough the past can be forgotten.
Careful to not kneecap yourself with this. Irrational optimists have a functional advantage despite being irrational.
This can't be overstated enough, people are very similar. If you want to get along people, treat them like people you get along with. If you want to fuck women, treat them just like you've treated the women you ended up fucking.
This, along with Step 2, should take care of themselves if you've done Step 1 correctly. Keep dwelling.
The intent itself is heresy, for those who try to change the world are mistaken and are trying to change themselves.
However, those who try to only change only themselves & follow their dreams have a chance of changing the world.
I mean, having sex is fairly key to having an otherwise successful and wholesome life. People will try to hamster otherwise, fuck them - there's more than enough proof that sex is conducive to good mental & physical health.
Alas I digress, there's really only two strategies to fuck women and only one (to me) is worth it.
SonterLord 8y ago
I know you said your post isn't about lifting, etc. I just wanted to point out for those concerned about said bro science 'LTRs lower T' nonsense: if you are lifting then wtf are you worried about?
little_england 8y ago
I believe some readers are desperate to promote anything that is anti relationship with women.
SonterLord 8y ago
A lot of readers need to read more in my humble opinion. Some of us choose to grow as men in that we choose to lead women. I wouldn't staunchly say that men MUST lead women in relationships to improve themselves but I find that it works for me. As long as you adhere to AWALT and cover your balls, you will succeed in most endeavors with women, LTR or not.
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darkstar505 8y ago
"Just type in ISIS into Google and you will see people with real life and death problems."
This so so so so so much.
Dev_on 8y ago
lol, for a second there, I though you suggested join ISIS if you aren't willing to man up and get your life in check...
ZeeyardSA 8y ago
Forgot to add. Going to teach this to my son from a young age
SocialistCloud 8y ago
When you say "You won't change the world", are you implying that I should abandon the goals that I have worked for my entire life?
Bit of context, I support far-right politics and want to start a far-right political party. Is that far-fetched enough to be called a delusion or are you referring to (for example) Tumblr feminists who keep spewing bullshit about "equality" and "rape"?
BiggestDickInTheRoom 8y ago
If you have an ambitious plan that you are executing on then I think that's admirable. You need to set goals and measure yourself against those goals and hold yourself accountable. If you what you are doing isn't doing dick, then adapt. Adaptation may mean changing your strategy, or it may mean taking what you have learned from your failure to another goal.
There are two much more common behaviors when changing the world however. The first is beating your head against a brick wall expecting the world to change with the force of your bloody head. You continuously devastate yourself and the world doesn't even notice. You think that if you only beat your head a little harder, then things will change. This doesn't work and sets you up for a life of frustration and waste. Think of all the other productive things you could have been doing instead of beating your head against that wall. The second is over-inflating your perception of your lazy attempts to change the world. No one cares that you recycle, conserve water, drive a fuel efficient car, or boycott shitty companies. It doesn't matter. You are not an economic powerhouse; no one is. Thinking that any of this means one bit of difference is delusional. Sure, conserve water because you believe it's the right thing to do, but don't expect it to change anything. You aren't changing squat and you need to be honest with yourself.
Both of the above behaviors lead to a mentality of martyrdom. A martyr who isn't dead yet is one of the most pathetic things on the planet. You can't even become a successful martyr by being a good little martyr. Futility is not respected, so self made martyrs aren't remembered. Only powerful, influential men who died inches from their goals are successful martyrs, not the guy who suffered injustice his whole life and died a failure.
So, if you are a man of great influence and power, then go for it. Change the world. If you aren't then work on becoming a man of great influence and power, because without that, no matter how good your intentions, you are a failure. If you try to change the world and no one notices, then you lived a sad, sad life. If you choose to become a man of great influence and power first, then even if you fail you probably became a man of pretty decent influence and power along the way, which is a pretty good life unto itself.
Put the cart before the horse.
little_england 8y ago
As I said these are my personal rules which applied to me. I wanted to change the world but I was too lazy to change myself. I am definitely not implying people should abandon their goals. It is hard for me to explain what I mean considering I was more observing from my own perspective. Changing something on a big scale is highly unlikely and I think this mindset will inevitably lead to crushing disappointment. Change is very gradual and I just think its natural for people to envision themselves at the forefront. Again I may be totally wrong as I am simply spectating from my experiences and wanted to share what may help some people. If you want to start a far-right party then more power to you.
baronunread 8y ago
Neither, he's saying that anything you'll do won't matter at the end, so don't get involved in impossible tasks, like for example, changing people's nature or removing completely slavery.
I think that as long as you truly believe in what you're doing AND you're doing it relentlessly, then eventually you'll achieve anything. You just have to understand your limits and try to overcome them, and whether it is possible to overcome those limits or not, it all depends on your context.
bestpractice1 8y ago
In terms of tabula rasa Hilton Ratcliffe's Stephen Hawkings Smoked My Socks: How beliefs contaminate our opinions, an astrophysicist's perspective amazon link provided for the reviews, I found it incredibly internally cleansing, i.e. inspired examination and shrugging off of a lot of dross, opp. of rasa. Check it out.
DJ_RP 8y ago
I think a great example to help force the pull down is through the historical perspective. Do you think George Washington, Winston Churchill, Ghengas Khan or any other great man in history put women on a pedestal? Do you think they achieved what they did just by showing up? Every person knows exactly what their mentalities were like, be like them.
s0undwave 8y ago
I don't really think Genghis Khan is a good example of someone we should aspire to be lol.
newls 8y ago
He's not 'good' by any stretch but he got a lot of shit done to say the least. He mobilised a force that conquered half the world, and now a significant percentage of the population is descended from him.
(By "significant" I mean statistically significant. I don't know what the percentage is but I know it's not insignificant.)
He can definitely be learned from in an amoral sense. You don't need to like him, but it doesn't hurt to recognise that some men have been extremely effective in different ways across history.
HighwayWest 8y ago
You should read up on Genghis Kahn.
zikkitzo 8y ago
I like some of this post, some of it I can leave. Likewise with the comments. Something I haven't seen is how you feel about Monk Mode. Monk mode isn't about disconnecting from the rest of reality. It's about a temporary realignment of priorities. A lot of betas are addicted to self pity and the idea of pussy. By taking a step back, forcing yourself to meditate, focus inward, and reframe your interactions, you discover you're goal in life isn't to stick your dick in a chick. You discover your purpose is ultimately to walk your own path and chicks are a side effect of walking that path with your head high in confidence. You can be told this, but you won't truly get it without experience. It either comes naturally, or you have to go find it. Monk mode is the modern day rite of passage into manhood. Before masculinity was vilified many of our ancestors had these rites of passage where a father would teach his son the various survival skills they would need to be independent. This would culminate in a rite of passage into manhood in which the boy would leave the tribe, and return days later as a man. This is Monk Mode in a nutshell, TRP as a whole is our father figure.
little_england 8y ago
Yes I agree with you some people do do 'monk mode' the way it was originally planned to be. Especially what you say about experience and I mention it myself. My point is some TRPers I have seen use the idea of 'monk mode' of going further into their shell, all under the disguised veil of working on themselves, when I feel it should be about exposure. Monk mode is fine if people do it the right way, I just wanted to offer a alternative to the newbies who see clashing views on monk mode.
zikkitzo 8y ago
Right on. The number of new subscribers who don't read the sidebar is staggering. I enjoyed your post.
machimus 8y ago
Another word on Monk Mode: it's a good thing like a hospital is good when you're injured. It will help initially when you're still in unplugging shock, but eventually you need to get into physical rehab and get strong again (get back out in the field).
rpscrote 8y ago
Reminds me of the scene in episode 2 or 3 of Band of Brothers. The crazy sergeant Spiers who shot all the german prisoners is talking to Blithe.
Same thing with your relationships. They will end. They all end. Accept that its end point is pre-established. Whether by death, divorce or breakup, it will end. So enjoy the time you have but realize it won't last forever, and nothing will. And then you'll be able to function again
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Dev_on 8y ago
I never got peoples facination with aspiring to movie role models.
It's literally the work of someones imagination
FightTillFailure 8y ago
Fiction often mirror's reality. People in movies, books and what have you tend to be based off real people.
Dev_on 8y ago
I am old enough to remember 'revenge of the nerds' 1 and 2
writers write their fantasies. Some of it may be true, but theres a reason they add that 'purely coincidence if this is like real life' disclamer on every one
rpscrote 8y ago
yes, I generally agree with you, but this post doesnt "aspire to movie role models" in any way.
I'm taking a quote that sums up a thought better than I could. AKA I'm citing my sources. I couldve posted it without the source.
Dev_on 8y ago
It's moreso the guys in here who talk about madmen like it's a bible...
just a thing I'm noticing.
rpscrote 8y ago
roger, agreed. The "omg this movie is so redpill lolololol" posts are definitely decreasing the signal to noise ratio
Dev_on 8y ago
At least if they picked Rambo III, or Total recall, I could agree.
Nothing more manly about killing a bunch of people with a wet towel over your head, or freeing Afghanistan with a bow and arror
Modified_Hackware 8y ago
I disagree.
The ultimate force-the-pill-down-your-throat is read the side bar and then watch what people do.
There's no trick - start at the top, work your way down. Thousands in here haven't and you can read[*Edit: I can't spell read apparently] everything in the sidebar in one night. I bet there's people right now nodding their head reading this who haven't read all of the sidebar. It's a really bizzare phenomenon.
little_england 8y ago
People have trouble incorporating what they read in their life. People not reading the sidebar does not make this post less valid. There is no trick yes but even after the sidebar people need some guidance. This is what worked for me so it should be useful to others.
tits_out_forTheBoys 8y ago
Bullshit.
The Red Pill judges women as human beings (creatures which are inherently flawed) and this is labeled "hate" by PC propaganda since we do not consider women to be precious snowflakes (i.e. admonishing their actions of all guilt and responsibility).
This is not hate, it is an intense realism which leads us down the path to complete acceptance of female nature. Without acceptance, there cannot be love. Which is why Blue Pill manginas like Dr. Oz who claim to "love all women" are fucking liars, because what they actually love is the mythical fantasy of what women are that they've convinced themselves to be true.
If anything, Red Pill men love women more than the general population does because unlike Blue Pill men, we judge women for who they actually are instead of pretending that they're something else.
To be honest, I consider "hate" to be ignoring the reality of something because this implies an unwillingness to accept it for what it is.
I suggest you rethink your statement and consider the point I just made.
spectrum_92 8y ago
How can you deny that there is genuine hate towards women on this sub? I mean fuck, I love this sub and it's changed my life, but I can still admit that some of the shit people post on here is crazy. Friendzoning is a direct 'insult', women are incapable of rational thought, and all that anger phase shit.
OP makes a valid point, simply coming to this sub to hate on women, which some users do here, isn't swallowing the pill and isn't going to get you anywhere.
Dev_on 8y ago
it's not RP, but it's here.
Its the kind of guy who talks about what 'should' happen, or how they 'should' act.
totally different than being called out on BS, which I think is what you're talking about
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A lot of people here do hate on woman though, you can't possibly tell me you haven't seen that.
Dev_on 8y ago
A lot of people here hate black people too...
Having said that, it's a lot less hate then I see in places like gamerghazi, or the femme subs
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Movonnow 8y ago
You are forgetting the anger phase my friend.
bitches_be_crazy86 8y ago
Anger phase isn't really about women. It's about blaming youself for getting fooled (rightfully so)
tits_out_forTheBoys 8y ago
Sure, some of the men who are in the Anger phase of unplugging are legitimately frustrated with, and sometimes even angry at, all women for a certain period of time. But why?
If you think it's because they've swallowed TRP, then you're mistaking the cause of the disease with the cure.
Blue Pill ideology is the cause of the Anger Phase and any resulting hatred of women. Red Pill awareness is the cure of that "hatred"/frustration/disappointment and ultimately leads to the final stage of unplugging: Acceptance.
Movonnow 8y ago
I would say that taking the red pill allows one to understand why he has been angry all his life. Now that he understands, he let it out. He will never be that angry anymore towards women.
Oakland_dude 8y ago
I think OP is referring to the circle jerk jerk of posting shitty things women do. It's become excessive here. AWALT is one thing, but false rape claims are sort of an extreme situation that gets overemphasized here. There are much better things to direct your attention to. Just understand that women are not looking out for your best interest, but their own instead. None of their subsequent behavior should be alarming or upsetting. The anger phase happens because we were given false expectations of women. Most importantly, when you start to blame others (women) for your problems, you prevent yourself from changing yourself. That's called victim mentality. RP, above all, is about self improvement.
The_F_B_I 8y ago
Also a lurker here. I've been subbed to TheRedPill for about a year now and have noticed the victim-complex going through the roof here over this year. Also, a lot of this weird speak as if Woman are some subgroup of inhumans who only goal is to defeat all men, yet deserve to be put on his huge pedestal as if Woman in general make or break a man. Jesus christ people stop relying on others for validation so much.
That being said, what you said here
Really articulates for me how IMO Woman are not a threat or an enemy of TRP, but rather just yet another player of the game of life.
After all, aren't we all here to learn to look out for our own best interests, and to not be a doormat in our lives?
If AWALT then AMALT too.
Dev_on 8y ago
yup. Mrs sarkesian is wrong, they aren't the ball. They are the patriots, and we are everyone else who is used to the inflated ball
tits_out_forTheBoys 8y ago
Telling the truth about what women do is neither hate nor love. It is neutral. It happened, therefore it just "is." So why is that a problem? Are we supposed to pretend these things don't happen, so we can paint a better picture of women at the expense of accuracy?
Yeah, up until the day when you become the antagonist of a rape fable because the woman you fucked happened to have a shitty character. My ex has told me 3 different stories about 3 different men in which she used the word "rape." She called the cops in none of those supposed situations, and yet she felt comfortable telling me (and most likely other men) all about it. Doesn't seem like "rape" then, does it? Because it's not. It's attention pandering. It's a malicious means of garnering sympathy and a Captain Save a Hoe type response. I no longer speak to her because of this.
That said, would you honestly not care if you happened to be one of those guys who's reputations she's shamelessly throwing under the bus? For no other reason than her need for an extra morsel of male attention?
Dev_on 8y ago
Reading the titles of a lot of posts oakland is talking about, I'm pretty sure that he's more spot on.
Look at this idiot pretty much removes neutral from the post.
Mind you, you're not wrong, it's just the kind of people posting it don't know that
tits_out_forTheBoys 8y ago
Fair enough, personal recounts are certainly prone to all kinds of bias. But that doesn't automatically imply hate, either. It's an unfair assumption which most, if not all times is completely untrue, and I wanna make sure this is understood.
I would never want to associate myself with a hate group. If that were the case, how could I live with myself? The same can be said for the rest of us, and this preconceived notion of TRP being a "hate group" needs to be shot down for its underlying fallacious misunderstanding of what this place is all about.
Oakland_dude 8y ago
I'm curious what those guys did to inspire that sort of behavior. What are you doing to make a woman want to say you raped her? That's what the discussion should be.
tits_out_forTheBoys 8y ago
What did they do wrong? She lost attraction to them.
If what she said that they did was actually true, considering the current state of our society, they would 100% be rotting away in prison right now.
Dev_on 8y ago
lol. Theres nothing you can do about it. If you sex up a girl, then stop, nothing is stopping her from making up what you did, and haling a mattress around campus for 3 years.
even a lawsuit won't stop crazy. So what they did? Dick in crazy,
little_england 8y ago
A lot of stuff posted on TRP is over emotional and could be prone to exaggeration. Believing all the circle jerks because it is coming out of mans mouth is not accurate itself. I have not known a single girl I associate with to have a fake rape story, nor have I heard of one saying they had one. So it could be the women you are associating with. In which case this is also not accurate.
Cyralea 8y ago
Pry into them a little more. Guaranteed a very healthy percentage will claim it, particularly if you're romantically involved. The actual numbers for rape is around 2%, yet something like half the women I've met claim to have been raped or "almost raped".
It's a real phenomenon. Women love to use the rape card for sympathy points and validation.
Sawagurumi 8y ago
7.6 per thousand, or 6.1 per thousand, for college-age women. 1.4 per thousand for women outside that age group (less sexually desireable). US government figures. The 2% figure was for 'unwanted sexual contact' but that was rather broadly defined. Of the 6.1 per thousand for students, 12% state that the incident was not important enough to report.
Dev_on 8y ago
for sure, most of us won't get even close to the horror stories here.
Thing is, this place is a collection of the worst case scenario. 100k people, you're going to get outliers, but they have a lesson that you can learn from it.
Just like labs create deadly diseases, to create cures for much less deadly ones.
tits_out_forTheBoys 8y ago
Believe what you want. I have no reason to lie about this.
Yes, it heavily depends on the type of woman. But the point is that it happens because the Westernized legal and social environment allows for it to happen.
Men would do well to take notice and know what to look out for when it happens. That is my entire point. Protect yourself and be careful about the women you choose to associate with.
balalasaurus 8y ago
It's ok man. They'll figure it out for themselves. And if not, well tough shit.
LondonChap86 8y ago
That is completely disingenuous. There is so much anti-woman hatred by some contributors to this subreddit. Denying that is just.... nonsense.
tits_out_forTheBoys 8y ago
You need to provide examples because otherwise you are just making an lofty accusation with nothing to back it up with except hot air.
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little_england 8y ago
Just because members feel they understand why women act like they do does not stop them from disliking them. There is a lot of great stuff on TRP and I agree with your point on some red pill men loving women more than blue pill men, but you won't find much of it articulated here.
I also acknowledge this is a place for men to come and speak their minds so some disdain is going to exist. Hate was to far but dislike is certainly expressed to women's true nature.
through_a_ways 8y ago
That's because most "normal" human beings feel hate toward what they perceive as unfair.
For instance, you'll see plenty of vitriol directed toward the financial .01% on subs like news, worldnews, technology, and really pretty much any board that talks about them.
Why this vitriol? Because said .01% is infinitely more successful than anyone on reddit could even hope to be.
In the same vein, many men on TRP and MRA/MGTOW sites exhibit the same vitriol, directed at women.
The hate these men have toward women is about as rational as the hate that common people have for rich bankers and multinational CEOs.
The middle class wants things to be faaair. The average man wants the sexual market to be faaair. Life isn't fair. Therein lies the butthurt.
The only reason TRP gets a bad rap for this, while hating rich people is seen as acceptable and even encouraged, is because every human on earth has an inherent biological bias toward favoring women.
No such bias exists for people whom we know have more material resources than us.
tits_out_forTheBoys 8y ago
Men are by nature attracted to women.
Saying that any man "dislikes women" is the equivalent of saying a fat kid who's stuffing his face with ice cream "hates ice cream."
The level of hamstering required to land on the fairy dust conclusion that any man is capable of "disliking women" requires such a high degree of intellectual dishonesty, that it makes sense for it to be a big part of politically correct ideology. There, hidden among the pack of lies about men, it's fitting.
But on this sub? It's pure bullshit. These assertions need to end. It lacks any sort of logical foundation which makes the accusation itself a hateful one.
denart4 8y ago
Disliking is not the same as hating
Ichorous007 8y ago
As a total newcomer here I appreciate your perspective. I am struggling with TRP as a newcomer because it seems like such a black and white mentality that the Alphas fuck women and the Bitch Betas are pussies and useless. I am trying to understand this of course because it does seem to touch on some interesting parts of human interaction, self sufficiency and the idea of love and relationships. I always defined myself as a nice guy with moderate self confidence, who respects everyone, commands respect and loved the women in my life. I am in a LTR with a strong independent woman. We are in love and I have no interest in seeing anyone else. That by TRP definition puts me in the Beta category evidently who has one it is for a unicorn. I on the other hand am happy with my life, success, social circles and feel like I am a mutually beneficial relationship that is founded on trust and mature communication and attraction.
Overall I am still trying to understand the good side of TRP and your post is helpful for that. Thank you.
naturalredpill 8y ago
Don't forget to kiss her passionately, make her laugh, pop her butt, keep doing the things that attracted her to you in the first place. I am also in an LTR and regard my woman as self sufficient. She is strong because I am her rock. She is independent because I will pick her up if she falls. TRP helps me remember these things. I also expect enthusiastic blow jobs. I can walk away if or when she loses enthusiasm for things that are important to me.
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little_england 8y ago
Well it sounds like you are in a good place then. All in all I do not think this is the right place for you. Sexual strategy is one of the main focal points of TRP, and if you are happily in a LTR reading this sort of material will not do it any good. Not to say the material on TRP is false, it has helped me a lot but it might not be what you need to hear when in a happy committed LTR. However some TRP members would say it is important you stay here and learn how to be in a relationship the TRP way, shit-tests, stoicism, being a rock etc. All of this is relevant and will help in any LTR I personally believe. But with all this helpful information comes some hard cold truths about women which you can choose to believe or take with a pinch of salt.
Ichorous007 8y ago
Thank you for your honesty and I appreciate your open minded ability to level with me in your reply. I agree there are some good concepts that I can cherry pick from this group as you explained as well and will look into those some more. I do think it is quite interesting to learn other peoples perspectives and do feel there are some lessons that can come from this subreddit.
klk8251 8y ago
Because you are very new to TRP, I would like to offer you some advice. In my opinion, right now is not the time for you to consider cherry picking theory and advice from this sub. It is not only very important to read all of the sidebar material and top posts, but also to understand the fact that all of that information is based on tried and true knowledge from, at the very least, smart men that very much know what they are talking about. My point is... don't assume that, today, you are smart enough to know WHICH INFORMATION YOU SHOULD BE CHERRY PICKING. A very large number of men have had their worlds completely turned upside down (for the better, at least in the long-term) because they were willing to actually learn all of the material here. You might end up being one of those men. Welcome!
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usku 8y ago
Well written, well spoken. Good advice. I'd change the title of step 4 from what it is to 'Treat everyone the same'.
HB 9 or HB1. Alpha man or beta bux. Treat them the same until they have earned more or less..
redditarcm89 8y ago
That's pretty bad advice, to those who can accurately assess a person.