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swimminginblue

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Her Stats: 19 YO Tan Skin Brunette HB10 , large social media following and an amazing ass.

She is a treasure chest of information confirming and reaffirming the lessons taught here. In all honesty, sometimes the accuracy of this information, while very valuable to me, can be very depressing after understanding how the world works in regards to sexual strategy and male-female relationships.

Below are a few of the lessons:

Female Solipism:

“ it’s so easy for guys to get pussy, if you can’t get pussy then something is wrong with you”

This is a direct quote from her, more specifically we were on the topic of Incels and Elliot Rodger. In her mind “ These losers just need to go the club, pick up a girl and get laid in 2 minutes “ In her worldview, sex is just as easy attainable for the average man as it is for the average girl.

Alpha Fucks/ Beta Bucks.

There are two guys in her life I would like to point out. I will refer to them as Chazz and Jimmy

Chazz is her ex boyfriend who she just recently went back to, he is the sleeve tattooed bad boy construction worker who cheated on her multiple times and spends his time smoking weed, going to the club and working out. His family comes from a criminal past and so does he. I asked her why she is with him regardless of his unconcern for her and she simply said “ I don’t know” . The reality is, he treats her like shit but it gives her an emotional ride, and she loves that thrill. The entire family despises him.

Jimmy, is by all means the guy you will want your daughter to bring home. Her older brother who is my best friend and I have constantly told her that she should date him instead. He comes from a good family, performs well in school, treats her like an absolute princess and is on track to be an airline pilot, good stable, respectful and a great provider, the entire family loves him.

I asked her why she won’t date him and her response ? “ I can’t, I would cheat on him” she affirmed that she was just not attracted to him.

This irony was too much. She would be loyal to the man who treats her like shit and has cheated on her but is afraid of being with the man that treats her like a princess because she is afraid that she would cheat on him.

Beta Bucks

This one was not about her but it was about one of her friends she told me about. We will call her Mary and the guy in topic Mike

Mike and Mary are in her social circle. Mike really likes Mary and for her birthday this weekend, he decided that he would go and buy her an extravagant and thoughtful gift, so she invited him to her party at a club.

Mike arrives at the party, and behold Mary is on top of an another guy. He is furious but sticks around, she goes back to him and after a series of events of him orbiting around her at the party, she lies to him that she is going home with one of her girlfriends. The reality is, she went home with an another guy, fucked him, got picked up by an another guy, fucked that guy, and later that night went and fucked an another completely different guy.

Three guys in 24 hours. Mike still thinks she is an innocent princess

AWALT

A quote from her, she’s popular in our college and is always in the loop about what’s going on with the girls

“ You see those girls that you think are innocent, you have no idea how many of them are sleeping around and have chlamydia “

This one hit me hard.

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_Ozu_ 5y ago

Jimmy could be a top alpha with the right change to mindset. Combine RP truth with the status of airline pilot and he'd be set.

puredemo 5y ago

Great post -- Chazz lol.

Whole thing makes me pretty depressed though. Especially how in ten years all of these women are going to get married to clueless beta bucks and completely fuck them over for all they're worth.

I need to buy some stock in Mormonism, seems like the only thing nowadays that even has a chance of supporting healthy families.

swimminginblue 5y ago

I’m finding it hard to believe in “ love” and “ marriage” after discovering TRP. It’s tough

blownnnn 5y ago

Women don't want to believe it either. I've had women sabotage their best friend because she would of had a happy ending and be in love. They'd rather see her loveless, alone and single.

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BewareTheOldMan 5y ago

"...closest thing to..."love" and true devotion I believe can be had from a virgin. My girlfriend was still a virgin at 21 and raised Muslim. I have never seen the look of devotion and trust she has in her eyes from an American girl."

That's a profound statement on why virginity is important in young women. The fact that pair-bonding, innocence, and chastity is ridiculed in American society is problematic and one of the reasons for numerous social ills and societal problems.

The idea that a young man who truly desires marriage, fatherhood, commitment, respect, dedication, and loyalty from a woman is virtually a lost cause.

I remember an article where a young woman confirmed to her father on her wedding day (at the reception) that she in fact kept her promise to remain a virgin until marriage. The story went viral, the woman was ridiculed, and many commenters felt that fathers should have no influence over a young woman’s decision to maintain virginity. American society is shaming virgins – even worse is that a man who is a virgin or sexually inexperienced is viewed as a sad, pathetic, and unattractive loser who has no "Game."

Years ago, virginity was the expectation – in the 21st Century a man has to HOPE a woman had only 1-3 sexual partners within the context of a long-term relationship (LTR), no random or casual hookups, and/or one-night stands.

Most men won’t even be able to find women with this low-level emotional damage. Many Western and sexually liberated women are so far gone that a man is better off embarking on a long trek to a remote farming village just for the possibility of finding a young, chaste, and innocent woman who would make an outstanding wife and mother.

It’s extreme…but you see the point.

WarViper1337 5y ago

Women at the top end of the physical attractiveness spectrum live a totally different world. They have beta cucks orbiting them all day long ready to lay down and be walked all over. These women can get sex or start a whole new relationship in less than a days time if they wanted. Part of the problem is other men though not standing up for themselves and putting women like this up on a pedestal.

IndividualEvent 5y ago

Agreed. Just wanna also say they don’t have to be even close to the top on physical attractiveness. Many 3-5s have a really high body count - from quality males too which reinforces their warped perception of their SMV. So it’s not just hot chicks - it’s close to all.

azwildcat74 5y ago

LOL you've never known Mormon women then... The Mormon community has skyrocketing divorce rates right now.

puredemo 5y ago

Really? I didn't know that.

I didn't even know Mormons could get divorced without it being a huge, shameful thing.

Fuck it, I'm going Amish.

CapnPoot 5y ago

LOL good luck churning butter for the next 50 years.

In all seriousness tho, theres no escape at this point in time. Im Jewish, and there are literally 0.5% dateable girls... and everyone tells us “jewish girls are the best...

EumenesOfEfa 5y ago

I am half Jewish and I lived in Israel. The girls there have been turned to western sluts

JF0909 5y ago

I'm jewish and my dad told me not to date jewish girls because they are all nuts.

rigbed 5y ago

Even Amish women are awalt. You can’t just pick one up, your parents decide that shit and you get starfish sex.

DeplorableJL 5y ago

Amish women also don't wear deodorant or shave. Good luck getting a boner unless this is your kink.

rigbed 5y ago

No STDs either. Also not fat. You know I’m selling myself on them.

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jonpe87 5y ago

The girl is right get pussy is easy.. what you guys forget is that for them only the top 20/10% of man are man, and those man get pussy easy, so she sees that the biologycal valuable man (bad boy) must be shared. Thats why for them seems like man have 10000000 options.

Alpha_Jedi 5y ago

"The truth shall set you free." It's amazing how once you see it, you can never un-see it. But knowledge is power, so use it to get the most out of this life. Cheers.

red_matrix 5y ago

The thing is...the ones like your friend's sister and Mary, get really good at sneaking around with more and more practice and their friends will never ever tell you. They do it so much that it seems normal, and not wrong. They all hold on to each-others secrets, it's mutually assured destruction if one spills the beans they all go down, plus they all need solid alibi's. You have no idea.

92716493716155635555 5y ago

She sounds like a piece of shit person. Using her advice may land you a piece of shit person.

kez88 5y ago

So what's this "10s" insta? I need to see this ass

x69x420x69xXD 5y ago

Asking the real questions here

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Full-Time_Lurker 5y ago

Yes chlamydia is rampant. Use protection.

That's not solipsism that's accurate. If you are in the top 20% you can get laid that easy.

Mike is a lost cause. Jimmy is gonna be aight. Chazz might sound like the guy you wanna be, but once you realize you're him is when shit gets weird.

truedemocracy3 5y ago

Yea Chazz here is still a fucking loser. Don't know enough about Jimmy yet.

ShakaLeonidas 5y ago

So true. Alpha'n it up has landed me at the free clinic or the abortion clinic more times than I would like to admit. A few times of both clinics were due to other mens wives.Nihlistic as this sounds "these hoes ain't loyal" and don't give a fuck about giving you an STI. They will STILL want to fuck after treatment or abortion aswell. I've lost 98% of respect for 98% of all women kind under the age of 70.

Skyhawk_And_Skyhead 5y ago

Chazz attitude, Jimmy Career

truedemocracy3 5y ago

Exactly this. You don't want to be a Chazz. Smoking pot all day and blue collar job still makes you a loser in the eyes of most.

You want to be a mix of both

askmrcia 5y ago

Once Jimmy becomes an airplane pilot he will be pulling more tail then Chazz. And his tail will be better quality because he will be the one traveling everywhere, going to high end parties and clubs. He will also be in far better position to meet just overall better women from models, fit chicks with their shit together, ect...

His job title alone will get panties dropping far better then some tattooed construction worker who can only pull club Thots. All Jimmy has to do is stay in decent shape and not be autistic when it comes to Communicating with women and he'll be far better off.

I can see Chazz knocking up some thot within the next few years and once that happens his quality of pussy will drop even lower to single moms and welfare chicks.

Skyhawk_And_Skyhead 5y ago

problem with airline pilots is there's a huge correlation with autism.

truedemocracy3 5y ago

Mindset still matters. I know plenty of guys with beta mindsets in Alpha careers and still have pathetic sex lives. Jimmy with the right tools can absolutely kill it though.

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AshyLarry27 5y ago

People like to look at a 'Chazz' and assume "he'll get his." Reality is, judging by how he carries himself, when he matures he will probably start holding more leadership positions and progress in life. It's not like he's in the dumps. Construction pays well and he appears to have a "take no shit" lifestyle. It would be easy for him to self improve once he becomes more aware. Most people who go to the gym consistently have more self control (or at least potential of) than you want to realize. We're talking about a guy who's probably in his young to mid 20's, unless this 19 y/o broad was picking up dudes straight out of the bar in middle school

askmrcia 5y ago

Chazz already has a criminal record and he comes from a shitty background. Chances are he won't be better off in the long run.

My high school was filled with these types of guys who got all the girls and status in high school. But ten years later they are either in jail or bumming around all day with their welfare baby momas.

AshyLarry27 5y ago

I agree to a certain extent, but the fact that he works a decent job and lifts tells me there is still something left in the tank. If his criminal records were that bad, I don't think his construction job would have hired him as these tend to be red flags most employers immediately jump on and toss the application. On top of that, OP painted him as someone with a criminal past, not someone continuing in that path.

"spends his time smoking weed, going to the club and working out."

Say what you will about weed, but what's wrong with the other 2? Usually a drug dealer type or someone jumping from one retail / fast food job to another tend to fall into the category of baby mama bummers you described.

askmrcia 5y ago

Chazz works a decent job? Says who? He works in construction. He is most likely on the lowest level at his job. That's probably exactly why they hired him.

Yes I know you can make good money doing construction but he's most likely making $30k a year.

With his background he's not going to move up far.

Jimmy on the other hand is going to be better off in the long run. Jimmy is the one that's going to be traveling the world, living in the better house/apartment, meeting higher quality people, meeting higher quality women, ect..

While Chazz is gaming skanky club Thots that has kids, Jimmy is going to banging female athletes, models, fitness trainers, and girls that have their shit together. Jimmy will have the better status.

AshyLarry27 5y ago

He's in his early 20's without a college degree, 30k at that point is 'decent.' Were we supposed to be disappointed a tatted up bad boy with a criminal past isn't making 6 figures at like 23? Construction work is an umbrella term for a variety of jobs and skill sets. The potential for upward mobility is also VERY much there, I never said it was some comfortable lap of luxury job, so yes it is 'decent' for what it is and what the worker can do with it.

Now criminal records can be cleared with time. Only time will tell if he's the guy that can look back at his (and his family's) past and say "fuck that shit I need to live a real life and put my all into this" or go down that criminal route again if he's really in the 30k group and struggling. My point is anyone is capable of fixing their life, even if it doesn't mesh with your BP fantasy of "the cool slick tatted bad guy's life sucks afterwards."

askmrcia 5y ago

It isn't a blue pill fantasy and I knew you were going to go there. Sure he can turn his life around, but chances are he won't.

That's all I'm saying. Alot of people stick at $30k for nearly their entire lives, especially if they came from a shit background.

Shit I know plenty of people in high school who was Making $25-35k at 20 years old and they are still making that much into their early 20s working shitty hours and having shit benefits. And yea these guys don't have degrees.

Again yes Chazz can be secretly a genius and end up becoming ceo of whatever construction company he works for making $200k. I doubt it and looking at it from a general perspective, the guy that will become the pilot has the better chance of being being well off with life due to his career.

But go ahead and keep making the case that guys with criminal records, no college degree, no certifications, spends all his time smoking weed and going to clubs while making a shit salary is going to be fine in the long run. You obviously have not spent a minute around people living in poverty if you think that's the case.

AshyLarry27 5y ago

My problem with your answer is you explain to me "guys at 20, and then WAY into their 'young' 20's were ONLY making 25-35k." And what do you think most guys regardless of background make in that age range? My point is I have met enough "men" who have had his kind of "past," but ended up doing fine because they were selfish, confident, and had that DGAF attitude this kid seems to have. That is a BIG factor in why I am playing devil's advocate on this. Those guys didn't live a life like the pilot obviously, but they made out okay. That's my only point.

Attitude plays a big role in your future. A selfish, confident attitude can net people better paying jobs and leadership/management positions because they don't second guess their worth or fear criticism/care what people think. Why do you think this guy has an HB10 crawling back to him, but she wouldn't give 2 shits about the guys you described? Because they are different people. You shit on him for smoking weed and going to clubs (because no one in their 20's does this, right?), but how many guys take time out to go to the gym and take care of their body and physical appearance?

People mentally mature and grow up. No one is the same at 20 as they are at 30, or 40. We go through more life experiences and adapt. That period before 30 is usually when everyone has a moment of clarity where they think life through and realize when they need to grow up if they have not yet at that point in life. You can't use a bunch of kids in their young 20's to convince me this guy is going to be just another statistic

askmrcia 5y ago

My problem with your answer is you explain to me "guys at 20, and then WAY into their 'young' 20's were ONLY making 25-35k." And what do you think most guys regardless of background make in that age range?

You keep gloosing over the fact that the guy in the story literally does nothing productive, comes from a terrible background and has a criminal record.

I clearly stated yes its possible for him to turn it around (no shit) but chances are he won't. Im actually tired of debating this.

Fine you win. Chazz the guy who doesn't do shit but smoke weed, go to clubs and has no real career path will be living an awesome life. Just like so many other guys I personally knew from the inner city.

Yup you're right, all the guys I knew that came from terrible home situations and still wasted their time on doing stuff non productive ended up racking in good money.

Because their alpha idgf attitude is the what will separate them from everyone else. And having confidence and an alpha attitude can allow someone do to anything. You win. Look man this was fun but we aren't going to see eye to eye on this and that's OK.

AshyLarry27 5y ago

I didn't mean to come off as some aggressive push to this point or "win" some senseless internet debate. I've just seen enough people in life grow up from that past. Not all people starting off with criminal backgrounds continue to be career criminals. When you hit a certain age and look around you, you realize you have to grow up. I agree a good portion also live stuck off welfare programs because nothing about them screamed "I am going to reach my potential." The ones that at least have an ounce of self respect and confidence have too much pride to be welfare bums. At the end of the day, we honestly know way too little about this guy so it was all in fun

acekilo 5y ago

Yea none of them are SPECIAL!!!! GET IT IN YOUR HEAD!!!

Rudeyyyy 5y ago

Chazz Michael Michaels LMFAAAOOOOO

Ok In all seriousness she really has no idea what’s going on here. She doesn’t understand the opposite sex. Because she’s hot and knows she can pretty much fuck at any given time she thinks we can do the same. In a way she’s right. Chazz can probably do that but Jimmy on the other hand can’t. Men are molded and made into what we are. We work to become what we want to be. Women are somewhat opposite. She can work to have a good career but if she’s hot forget it she has life on easy mode. I just love when they hit that wall in 12-18 years and all of a sudden shit goes south while we start to rise and want nothing to do with them.

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shameless_tease 5y ago

Another HB10? Is TRP surrounded by hotties all the time? Or more accurately, TRP thinks every 5+ is a 10. calling it

askmrcia 5y ago

Calling a chick a ten makes the story sound better. To most redpillers a hb10 is any white girl that's not fat.

HerefortheTuna 5y ago

yeah im from the opinion that 10s are like unicorns. They don't exist. 9s sure, maybe but 10s are an unobtainable fantasy

suaressi 5y ago

98% of this shit is some beta fanfic

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RedPilledGodEmperor 5y ago

“ it’s so easy for guys to get pussy, if you can’t get pussy then something is wrong with you”

I have heard women say this and it's so ridiculous that they don't really get how hard it is for guys. Also, holy cow is Mike a chump.

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giantfatdelicousbird 5y ago

"it’s so easy for guys to get pussy" = "I'm easy"

esirnus18 5y ago

It's because they see how easy is for Chad to get pussy. They are only interested in Chads, therefore thinking all men have that easy.

Nocryingok 5y ago

"it's so easy for guys to get pussy"

because it's so easy for Chazz, and these(we) are the only kinds of guys she pays attention to. The others are invisible.

Never try to convince them that pussy is hard. "Yeah right" is the best answer

cappadocianhawk 5y ago

It's also true. Be a man and you will get pussy.

Society has made it very hard for boys to grow into men, that is the problem.

RedPilledGodEmperor 5y ago

Yep, especially with all this BS gender identity which blurs the lines between male/female and the toxic masculinity stuff. Boys growing up today don't know how or what it is to be a man. Society is trying to make men weaker. It's been getting worse over the years.

Now you see women getting buzz cuts and trying to look more masculine. Makes no sense. I rock a buzz cut and beard and have gotten compliments on how I look good. It looks better than when my hair is longer. I have seen other men rock a buzz cut and they look masculine, good and it works for them because we are men. I have never seen a woman who looks better with a buzz cut than if she had longer hair.

Same for men. I have never seen a man who looks better when he dresses feminine, than when he dresses like a man does.

3d_truth 5y ago

When someone is confident, they look effortless. She knows all it takes to get pussy is a bit of confidence and self belief. That comes easy to people who are at the top of the smv pile.

Sparky159 5y ago

That comes easy to people who are at the top of the smv pile

Not even that. Even subpar guys can have a modicum of self confidence and still get reliable pussy. Granted, the girls will probably be fatties and landwhales, but those are just stepping stones to build confidence to move up the SMV ladder

MMDT 5y ago

I know why she honestly believes that. It's because every guy this girl has ever voluntarily interacted with and actually thought about has been a guy who is capable of getting girls. Low status men are invisible to women. From her point of view - Every guy she sees and interacts with is a high status guy who can get women easily. The 90% of men who aren't high status aren't really "men" to her - they are just walking NPCs to fill the void. So by definition, every "man" can easily get women - because the people who can't arent even men to her

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Nocryingok 5y ago

Lol just wrote the same before reading your post. Good stuff

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Frenetic_Zetetic 5y ago

This, along with other examples, proves perfectly the tandem combination of solipsism and cluelessness women "reason" with.

It's like a broken math equation that checks out when you assume it's all just addition, but it's PEMDAS, and these bitches think they know what they're doing.

Broken computer code that only computes because the computer is too stupid to realize it's computing broken logic.

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otra_gringa 5y ago

She's a teenager. How realistic of a world view should we expect her to have? Her greatest accomplishments at this point are graduating high school and not getting knocked up. And it's no guarantee on either of those.

She's talking about guys going to the club to pick up women. How would she know? She's not old enough to get into real clubs.

The real question is why this guy thinks she has some kind of insight into... Well, anything, really.

askmrcia 5y ago

I know thirty year old women who say the exact same shit.

They all think it's easy for guys to get sex. Everytime they ask if I'm seeing anyone and I say "no" they make suggestions that I just go to bar or club and pick someone up.

Yea like it's that easy. Women view the guys they truly want as the bar and everyone beneath those guys are invisible.

The guys they really want can grab tail whenever they can (sometimes) but not most guys.

otra_gringa 5y ago

A thirty year old woman who says that is lying. By that point the disparity is unavoidably obvious. Frankly, it is at 19.

magx01 5y ago

19 is peak female sexuality.

HerefortheTuna 5y ago

on average... but when i was 19 i was fucking a 16 year old and she was already used up.

Sparky159 5y ago

I wouldn't really say insight so much as she is the epitome of the AWALT, and makes for an easy example

otra_gringa 5y ago

Do you think if she made those comments in an all female environment, they would be well received? That she'd be respected for them?

BewareTheOldMan 5y ago

So... yes - a woman openly claiming sexual liberation and promiscuity is now glorified, congratulated, and offered high fives and fist pounds for being open sluts. This is the norm in the 21st Century. There are few women who abhor slut behavior, but not many. What's worse is there are Blue Pill, idiot men who agree - I suspect mostly in an effort to ingratiate themselves to women and to have a chance at these women for sex. Only an first-class idiot or inexperienced man would marry a known slut.

I wrote this to another commenter (on this discussion thread), but it's a point of consideration for your question:

The idea that a young man who truly desires marriage, fatherhood, commitment, respect, dedication, and loyalty from a woman is virtually a lost cause.

Most men won’t even be able to find women with this low-level emotional damage. Many Western and sexually liberated women are so far gone that a man is better off embarking on a long trek to a remote farming village in a foreign country just for the possibility of finding a young, chaste, and innocent woman who would make an outstanding wife and mother.

It’s extreme…but you see the point.

Another disconcerting anecdote is the example of a woman who throughout undergraduate, graduate, and PhD (university) studies had sex with over 200+ men AND who used recreational drugs was on another SubReddit asking internet strangers IF she should disclose this information to her current boyfriend.

Short answer – "yes"…but she won’t because she’s ashamed of her sexual past and instinctively knows she will be met with visceral disgust AND she loses any potential to lock this unsuspecting Beta Provider Chump into a dull and unfulfilling marriage based on her inability to effectively attach intimacy and emotion to her husband. This woman is ruined and she knows it. Not only that…answers included dumb statements of: "it’s not his business…"

Another commenter in PPD simply stated: Educated, college girl = College slut. This is not 100% true as there are a few college women who will be great wives and mothers, but I won't completely dispute this assertion. Notably - it's not just college-age women who behave this way. Promiscuous behavior is normal well into a woman's late 20s and early 30s.

It’s a known fact that most women are excessively promiscuous and the statements in OP’s Summary only reinforces these facts.

The insult is that many of these promiscuous women fully expect to find a Good Man later in life and will be notoriously angry and upset if men repeatedly say "No Thanks" to their "offer" of used up, stalled out, and passed around bodies.

Grandmothers, mothers, other smart women in extended families, and fathers USED to hard-check women on this behavior, but now fathers are marginalized and shamed for ensuring a daughter’s chastity, and few young women pay attention to advice from experienced and wiser women.

This is where US society is on this...

otra_gringa 5y ago

I don't even know where to start... I guess by asking you to define "excessively promiscuous"? Is it the same definition for men and women? Do you believe everyone should wait until they're married? If so, what age should people be married by? What if someone wants to focus on their education and career during their twenties and thirties, should they have to be celibate until they find a lifelong monagmous partner in their forties or fifties? Do the same standards apply to gay men and lesbians? How many men can I sleep with before being "used up"? Am I in danger of becoming used up if I have sex with one partner too many times? Most importantly, how many times is that? I need to know so I can do the math and figure out, based on my life expectancy, how often I can have sex and not have my vagina get "stalled out" before I die. Because that sounds awful.

BewareTheOldMan 5y ago

I note the dishonest, insincere, and facetious tone in your questions. Most women full well know the problems of high N-Count.

Again – the examples in the summary posting…1 woman had sex with 3 men in less than 24 hours. Another example - woman had over 200+ sexual partners while earning a PhD. On this same discussion thread, a woman admitted to her loyal and dedicated Blue Pill boyfriend she cheated with EIGHT men during their relationship. These are all examples of slut behavior.

If women are so proud of their sexual history, there should be no problem being honest about number of sexual partners, sexual diseases, any abortions, etc. – women lie to avoid their own truth and to avoid judgment.

Teens should definitely wait based on possibility of pregnancy. Why are teens having sex who can’t provide for an unplanned pregnancy/"Oops Baby?" Again – teens should wait, but most won’t because casual sex is encouraged.

Marry at whatever age an individual is truly ready for deep commitment and the expectations of marriage and NOT before – that’s the answer. Focusing on education is teen years and early 20s. Everything else is continuing education and it’s possible to earn a Master’s or PhD while married. People who use education as an excuse (not to marry) simply don’t want to be married. There’s no issue continuing with graduate studies and higher, but that’s not an excuse to not be married. Saying "someone wants to focus on their education and career during their twenties and thirties" is a convenient excuse.

There’s no issue putting off marriage until after graduate and higher studies. This is an individual choice, but to pretend that marriage prevents or interrupts academic pursuits is nonsense.

"… find a lifelong monogamous partner in their forties or fifties?"

The question is disingenuous and ludicrous. It’s perfectly viable to find a life-mate on becoming a legal-age adult and during one’s early 20s.

People are not marrying because they don’t WANT to be married. Men and women who truly desire marriage, family and career in their early to mid-20s make it happen. Not only that, it’s not unreasonable to have the expectation and requirement of virginity for an early 20s man and/or woman.

You have a pattern of dishonesty – men and women are not equals in the Sexual Marketplace – reasonably attractive women, or unattractive women for that matter, can have sex much easier than most men. This is the age of the internet, TINDER, and the casual hookup. People have always been this way, it’s just much easier and more normalized based on internet apps. Obtaining sex has always been much easier for women than it is for most men.

The decision for when a woman is a stalled-out slag is up a potential suitor vying for a relationship and/or the man she’s looking at for a prospective husband. Inform him of your ACTUAL and fully accurate number of sexual partners and he can decide for himself. Any woman who is proud of her sexual past has no problem with the truth. Based on that revelation a potential suitor or prospective husband can make a decision.

Women like you are disingenuous – coming to a site where men have genuine, productive, and real discussion about female nature and behavior, knowing full well that many women are behaving in the manner as outlined by most TRP commenters and Endorsed Contributors.

If you want to have productive and genuine discussion I can support that, but to come to TRP or any other male-based discussion and pretend most women are virtuous and innocent or to ask exaggerated questions about N-Count when you full well know the issues and associated problems with promiscuity is disingenuous.

I am not giving men a pass on their incorrigible behavior – women judge men all the time on virtually every aspect of their behavior, personality, and their life decisions. Women need judgment as well. It’s a fact of life and also because…equality. Women marched for and demanded equality – judgment, responsibility, and accountability are a part of the package.

otra_gringa 5y ago

You have a pattern of dishonesty – men and women are not equals in the Sexual Marketplace...

Women need judgment as well. It’s a fact of life and also because…equality. Women marched for and demanded equality – judgment, responsibility, and accountability are a part of the package.

So, are men and women equal or not? If we're to be judged "equally," why not judge us all by the amount of sexual partners we decline, rather than those we accept?

You have reach for extreme examples of "slut behavior" by third-hand, anonymous stories on Reddit. I've had a front row seat to the sexuality of quite a few women for quite a long time now- possibly longer than you've been alive. The bizarre motivations you're attributing to women are simply not true in my experience. I have guy friends & family, I have seen men get screwed over by women. I've also seen plenty of the reverse. I don't think men are generally bad because of it.

Wanting to understand male/female interactions better doesn't have to mean demonizing one gender. I don't think assuming malice on the part women is going to enable you to connect with them on any level. And I'm willing to bet you would actually like to connect with a woman.

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BewareTheOldMan 5y ago

On men and women being equal...

Real Talk - men and women are equal/mostly equal in general life, academics - assuming one meets and/or exceeds requirements, employment/employment opportunities – assuming qualification(s), and virtually every other aspect of life. There are almost no limitations on achievements based on gender.

One area of inequality is sexual activity and opportunity - women obtain sex much easier than men. Another area is sports - genders are separated based on physiological differences. Separation by gender in sports is practiced worldwide and no one disputes this observation and fact.

So… men are making up stories on the internet - that's the response you are going with? The woman with 200+ sex partners admitted this information herself and it's believable as I (same as you) have witnessed female behavior and the evolution of sexual activity. It's much worse than in past years. Men have been pretty consistent about sexual desire, sexual activity, and being forthright in their pursuit. Women are STILL trying to be surreptitious and sneaky. It’s not working as more and more men become aware of female behavior in relationships, marriage and casual sex in the 21st Century.

Also – I submit you send a message to the OP and allow him to confirm or deny his words and statements…or I could let him know you think his FR is false. What’s your preference?

Women are always talking about how their deviant behavior is not true, but I have personally dealt with women discussed in this forum and have first-hand experience. Third-party information is merely supplemental and aligns with my own experience and observations. I also discuss relationships and male-female interaction with men on a regular basis. Most men agree that many modern women are not innocent and truly in search of Good Men in their youth. They have their own agenda, with many implementing dual sexual strategy by later trying to pair off with some unsuspecting dupe who is ignorant of her sexual history.

Notably – if you were not forthcoming with your sexual history to your mate – current, past, or otherwise you are behaving accordingly based on your shameful past.

I suspect you are not accustomed to this level of frank and honest discussion. TRP might not be a good fit.

I don't discount that both genders misbehave, but women have been riding a false narrative of feigning virtue, chastity, and classy behavior for years - the narrative is proving false by the second. Men have been criticized since forever and this has not changed. The recent change is that men are more aware of women's behavior...and many men don't like it.

Just recently two women were exposed for falsely accusing a police officer of rape. Again - women's behavior and "pure" reputation is falling like a stone from 30,000 feet.

https://ageofshitlords.com/woman-falsely-accused-police-officer-of-rape-but-his-body-camera-was-on

https://www.theroot.com/copstoo-texas-officer-daniel-hubbard-accused-of-sexua-1826216795

False accusations hurt ACTUAL rape victims.

"...possibly longer than you've been alive."

"I'm willing to bet you would actually like to connect with a woman."

I connect with men and women very well with many young men and some women who seek my counsel. They are very appreciative of my advice. Men and ESPECIALLY women who listen to my advice generally avoid relationship issues and problems.

More importantly – I am in a relationship with a wonderful, elegant, beautiful, and classy woman who truly appreciates my presence in her life (as I appreciate her presence in my life). We enjoy a mutually beneficial and reciprocal relationship based on respect, loyalty, and added-value to each other’s lives.

Assuming my age and ability to connect with a woman...that's "cute."

swimminginblue 5y ago

Everything this man has said is true, as a 21 year old in college, I have confirmed it personally through experience or have lived and heard through the experiences of others including but not limited to this subreddit.

otra_gringa 5y ago

Notably – if you were not forthcoming with your sexual history to your mate – current, past, or otherwise you are behaving accordingly based on your shameful past.

I don't quiz my SO on his sexual history. That's not really my business. I'm not obsessed with his many women he's been with. That would reel of insecurity.

Women haven't been feigning chasteness, that's the role that's been enforced on us for most of human history. And you seem to indicate that men want it that way- women who openly act 'promiscuously' the way men are assumed to have zero value in your eyes. But beyond that, you assume all women are promiscuous. Maybe that's just the ones you know? Although, if you think any woman who's slept with more than three men in her life is a used-up slut, I guess most women are used up sluts.

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BewareTheOldMan 5y ago

"...80\% of guys are INVISIBLE to women."

Yep - exactly...another TRP Tenet and Maxim confirmed yet again.

Also confirmed by OKCupid, TINDER, Match.com, and virtually every other online dating and hookup site - especially hookup sites.

EumenesOfEfa 5y ago

Okcupid blog actually took down their own article confirming this

BewareTheOldMan 5y ago

That's fine - I suppose the article chased away potential male clients if it confirmed that most men don't have a good chance of landing a match. I would remove it too if it hurt my business, but more likely not post the article in the first place.

Almost better than any article are the words from women who basically think it's easy and almost no effort for men to obtain sex. It's easy for the most attractive men as these are men receiving the most female attention.

Notably, I've had women tell me the same thing...in a discussion forum in a room filled with mostly women. They all mostly agreed there was at least one or two men they could contact for on-demand sex within an hour. No man in the room could make the same claim.

EumenesOfEfa 5y ago

True. However, I feel very lucky being a men in the west in 2018.

Life is generally great, and the females, while having unlimited access to on demand sex, are much more likely to have problems to form a fulfilling bond with another men after being railed by multiple Chad Thundercocks.

Every guy they meet, will be compared against the Platinum standard. Thus, forming a relationship with said guy will be considered as "settling". Which leads to cheating while BB hubby is at his 9 to 5 job, and generally a miserable existence.

Eap123RP 5y ago

The part on the sister thinking that it's easy for guys to get laid is the most important thing for RP newbies (even all guys for that matter) to know immediately: women are generally bad at giving advice on how to get laid/gf and even lack empathy for sexually frustrated men (though there are some RP women that sorta get it).

Bottom line is learn game. Watch how the experienced alpha men do it and emulate.

Jesusonacake 5y ago

Is there a section on game in the sidebar? I just hit the cultural thesis

puredemo 5y ago

hard to have more game than a Chazz who comes from a family of criminals and basically gives no fucks about anything.

Iwannachokekatie 5y ago

Not to mention he's definitely far from an ugly guy.

ThomasHobbesROK 5y ago

Yeah agreed. I have more confidence now approaching girls, going out with them, closing, etc. I'm not willing however to go complete bad boy on them. By this point I suspect a lot of girls will only really respect and become attracted to a man who's the sort who will literally grab them and force themselves on her, ignoring her 'nos'.

As I'm not from a family of scumbags and want to maintain my complete lack of a criminal record I am unwilling to push through this barrier - just in case she's not actually complete trash and rightly cries 'rape' and I have the police knocking on my door the next day.

ImpressiveDig 5y ago

By this point I suspect a lot of girls will only really respect and become attracted to a man who's the sort who will literally grab them and force themselves on her, ignoring her 'nos'.

Uh, doesn't this mean rape? Or assertiveness if you're attractive and rape if you're not?

ThomasHobbesROK 5y ago

Pretty much, that's what's so fucked about the whole thing. Of course, no women will acknowledge this difficulty with consent lies with women. Feminists will just explain it away as women 'being afraid to say no' because of patriarchy or some bullshit, not that to a great extent they 'want' to be 'taken' by a strong man, rather than fantasizing about Joe the Plumber politely asking them out one day.

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RedPilledGodEmperor 5y ago

Yep. Women seem to think it's so easy for men to get laid. I was talking to a chick on Tinder and she was still dumbfounded when I mentioned how it's much easier for a woman to get laid than it is for a guy. Women are terrible at giving advice on how to get laid.

If you are looking for advice on how to get laid more, don't ask women, ask that dude who bangs lots of women.

lifeisweirdasfuck 5y ago

ask that dude who bangs lots of women

Natural alphas fuck but not consciously understand how. So even them might give you shit advice (personal experience). Just watch them play and analyse by yourself what they are doing.

Forcetobereckonedwit 5y ago

Also, don't ask women for advice, period.

Frenetic_Zetetic 5y ago

This is further proof of how solipsistic and clueless women are.

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But that is exactly why dread, preselection and abundance works so well. You don't even need to actually have any other options but if you act independent and show a woman that she ain't shit to you and live your life by your own rules. Her hamster will go kick into overdrive and she will do whatever it takes to suck your cock. They believe you live like them so exploit that little brain of theirs to your advantage

Older_Miggy 5y ago

You don't even need to actually have any other options but if you act independent and show a woman that she ain't shit to you and live your life by your own rules. Her hamster will go kick into overdrive and she will do whatever it takes to suck your cock.

I have never experienced this, and i'm older than most of you.

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What works for some doesn't work for others. This has been my experience, and I've never been burned by a woman the way a lot of guys on here have been. I just never really gave many fucks and have always done what I wanted. Somehow I've always had woman to have sex with too.

empatheticapathetic 5y ago

It’s bullshit. Wishful thinking.

Mach2Machiavellian 5y ago

A college friend of mine was a straight-up sociopath who rarely showered, was addicted to a variety of drugs, and unemployed. Got laid more than any of us, and I don’t just mean the skanky, easy girls. I used to be shocked at the hotness (and apparent “innocence”) of some of the chicks he pulled.

And he wasn’t even that good-looking, not ripped at all (thanks to constant drinking and drug use). Just truly didn’t give a shit what anyone thought, was fascinating in his recklessness, and straight-up went for what he wanted.

Oh, and he’s dead now.

Revo_Luzione 5y ago

Oh, and he’s dead now.

"Darwinian de-selection is none of my business."

Nonetheless, lessons from beyond the grave on the power of fearlessness.

Mach2Machiavellian 5y ago

Lived and died on fast-forward.

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This irony was too much. She would be loyal to the man who treats her like shit and has cheated on her but is afraid of being with the man that treats her like a princess because she is afraid that she would cheat on him.

be the wild lion. i keep sayin it.

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I asked her why she won’t date him and her response ? “ I can’t, I would cheat on him” she affirmed that she was just not attracted to him. This irony was too much. She would be loyal to the man who treats her like shit and has cheated on her but is afraid of being with the man that treats her like a princess because she is afraid that she would cheat on him.

Remember what girls say and do differs. She isn't afraid of being with the guy, because she will cheat on him. She doesn't care about cheating. She lets alpha fux cheat on her and im sure she cheats on all her boyfriends...being an HB10 the world is literally her oyster so there is no consequence for her cheating, slutting, etc.

Fortunatly there's that something called The Wall and...winter is coming for all women.

brownsdown 5y ago

Wow. Brilliant closing sentence

Camp_KillYourself 5y ago

is jimmy ugly and chazz attractive?

swimminginblue 5y ago

No, Jimmy is a good looking guy , Chazz as well but with the bad boy look

Frenetic_Zetetic 5y ago

Blows my mind that guys put cum guzzling whores on a pedestal.

They are literally showing you they aren't worth much.

Talk shit and treat them like the trash they are, and they'll be sucking YOUR dick in the next 5 mins.

toasty99 5y ago

Re: STI’s/ STD’s at the end of the post - you can get dong germs from blow jobs. Public service announcement to the straight guys and gals who skip condoms for oral.

BewareTheOldMan 5y ago

"Three guys in 24 hours" and "...you have no idea how many of them are sleeping around and have chlamydia."

This - exactly. STDs is a real thing and most of these women don't have the courtesy or self-respect to get checked for sexual diseases. There was a woman on one of the other SubReddits who confessed to sex with over 200+ men during undergraduate studies, graduate, and PhD studies and was asking internet strangers if she should inform her current boyfriend of her astronomical N-Count.

Comments ranged from "don’t inform the unsuspecting guy" to "it’s none of his business." She has a personal responsibility based on the high probability of sheer body count but hides the information because everyone knows the visceral disgust a man would feel on hearing the actual N-Count.

In the end women are not proud of their sexual history, they’re ashamed. It's the reason they outright lie, deceive, and conceal the truth of their sexual past.

donkey_democrat 5y ago

200 is such an ungodly high number I don't wish to dwell on it for so long. Her pair-bonding neural pathways must be utterly destroyed at this point.

Frich3 5y ago

and the fact that this "chazz" guy is a pretty attractive fella.. dont forget that tid bit.

jwarner95 5y ago

I'm an attractive fella and get close to none, that tid bit is pretty much meaningless.

Frich3 5y ago

then you arent as attractive as you think bud.. not being a dick but just being honest. how many times do YOU get hit on when youre out. How many chicks are calling YOU hot, and not the other way around? What you find attractive in yourself and what women find attractive in their men may be totally different.

jwarner95 5y ago

I agree with you, and I actually don't think I'm that attractive, but I'm going off what others have told me, not myself.

Forcetobereckonedwit 5y ago

Well, due to the world telling me all my life, I can say with certainty that I am very "good looking". I will say this about that: being attractive doesn't really make things easier for you in life, it just lets you get away with more. That's not such a good thing. As a man, you still have to have character and poise of some sort, a "mission", pocket money, a reasonable physique, etc, and those come from what you do, not what you look like. Women are only really expected to look good and then become mothers. Not so for men.

jwarner95 5y ago

You know, I'm not gonna delete/edit that last comment, but I will backpedal say that you're probably right and I've let comments from others get to my head. I've been working on reducing my ego's control over my life and this is probably another step I'll have to take towards that, I'm not as attractive as I think I am and I have to put in a lot of work into making my game and frame up to par.

Revo_Luzione 5y ago

I've heard that handsome men sometimes have more challenges because women expect more, and need both more mental/sexual game, as well as more comfort with "hot" guys.

Also there's more variability in terms of what women find handsome.

Clearly you have a plan, based on your last sentence, so keep after it.

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Women want to be the center of attention, and they'll move on if you don't treat them like that.

Thank God, the last thing in this world I need is a selfish whore.

QuasarBather 5y ago

What a load of bullshit lmao. Yeah, handsome 6 ft. 4 Chad with his six pack has a harder time because he needs to “stimulate them mentally.”
Looks aren’t end-all-be-all but let’s be real here.

jwarner95 5y ago

I think his point was towards the 7-8 section of the male scale, not 9-10.

ButteredPastry 5y ago

This one hit me hard.

I get a mini-depression every time I witness redpill truths, and just how unfair and fucked up it all is... It usually goes away when I remind myself that I was born a man. It also helps to realize how many desperate and boring Billy Betas exist, they make it easier for men like us too get laid.

Desthr0 5y ago

I think the whole part of being born a man is so you can take pride and value in yourself and your mission. It is what we do, women come along for the ride. It's not unfair. Unfairness means that injustice exists, (and it does, but not in this instance). The whole problem with Incels is they feel entitled to that sweet pussy, and get angry when they don't get it.

That is what TRP means when they talk about outcome Independence, to understand that you aren't entitled to anything in this world. If you let go of that belief, and that you must truly earn everything, then outcome Independence is a bygone conclusion.

Female solipsism is a part of a male logical fallacy; people, men and women, operate under different systems of belief. We inherently expect others to adhere to our own beliefs, and when they don't, we get angry. When women say it's easy to get laid, it is, even if it ISN'T for men. That expectation, that we are ENTITLED to be treated the way we want to be treated, results in resentment and anger. The truth is far more chilling, we all experience solipsism to a degree. For men, in order to be successful, need to recognize it. For women, they have no need, even if they ARE capable of understanding it. That lack of need, translates directly into dismissive behavior when contradicted. You can bring a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

merkucjo 5y ago

Because money is too important for people, we are too concerned about matter, why girls want tingles not stable situation ? They are harder to get, people are dead inside these days, work, home and programmed behavior like on rails, tingles are off the rails , wdyt

InternalCog 5y ago

(I’m still learning) What should Mike have done? I think the alpha thing to do is:

Start talking to other girls at the club
Try to bang one of the other girls at the club for preselection
Moved the fuck on cut her off and hit on other hot girls

Am I forgetting something or is there something else he should have done

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potato-stache 5y ago

Mike shouldnt have given her extravagant gifts in the first place. Have this principle in life that the only woman in the world that deserves lavish gifts or presents from your hard earn salary is your own mother who raised you up well (if you have good relation with her and not estranged).

Ok, What should I give to girls that I like? For that Google and read up 'Skittles Man' articles.

driticool 5y ago

Oh man, thank you for passing your knowledge of Skittles Man on me. That shit is hilarious.

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ToaKarn 5y ago

Shit Anon, I can't believe you have to live with this...

RxCubed 5y ago

That dumb slut doesn't deserve Jimmy, she deserves Chazz. Jimmy will end up with a better girl in the long run, as airline pilots are drowning in pussy. Do Jimmy a favor and stop advising the dumb slut to go for Jimmy instead of Chazz. Her and Chazz are perfect for each other.

Oh, and Mike is a cuck.

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The_Real_Cannaman 5y ago

Talk shit and treat them like the trash they are, and they'll be sucking YOUR dick in the next 5 mins.

Did dat, didn't get my dick sucked. Guess i'm too ugly.

ImpressiveDig 5y ago

Haha. I wonder if this approach works. I think it only does if you're crazy attractive with high SMV and you know that the woman should be seeking your approval.

Zanford 5y ago

Great observations, true as hell and that last quite as brutally hilarious

Stilfull 5y ago

What's up with getting "depressed" and "sad" all the time when realising the truth? You discovered something about nature? Great! Now adapt, you fuckface, and stop being such a pussy. Annoys the fuck out of me when men whine.

Great text doe, appreciated.

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NeverLace 5y ago

That us whats confusing me about MGTOW. The red pill teaches you all the rules about the game. When MGTOW finds out, they stop playing, whereas TRP wins.

HerefortheTuna 5y ago

eh...don't knock MGTOW. If you decide want a family or a relationship you can still be MGTOW and find sucess and be happy

NeverLace 5y ago

But then you're by definition red pilled, not MGTOW?

HerefortheTuna 5y ago

nope. MGTOW men are red pilled too. Some still have sex (but they refuse to cohabitate or LTR, or get married). Some Im sure give up and just don't care but my coworker for example made a conscious decision to not marry

NeverLace 5y ago

Would you say there's a difference between rTRP guys and red pilled MGTOWs? The ones that still peruse women that is.

HerefortheTuna 5y ago

It’s a spectrum. There’s probably MGTOW guys that only go after chicks that pursue them

NeverPullSumo 5y ago

Eye opener. That last sentence? I had to go through that to have my eyes opened.

Girl that I’ve known since middle school. Would’ve bet my life she was innocent. Oh, boy... if only I had known. It made me stronger, though.

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red_matrix 5y ago

Most girls go buck wild when they get to college - and most guys have no idea what's going on. That cute girl in organic chemistry class you've been dating, taking out (but won't fuck) is banging frat bros and bouncers every weekend. She might throw you a freebie one weekend when she's drunk. College girls fuck waaaay more than guys do, it's not even a contest.

NeverPullSumo 5y ago

I’m excited for college, man. Make the knowledge gains... compete in my first powerlifting meet... and you know that at the end of the day I’ll have a few plates spinning!

I haven’t concerned myself much with females ever since I discovered TRP, though. I’m sure I’ll be more inclined to do so next year when I’m a freshman. Any advice?

_BITCHES_LOVE_ME_ 5y ago

Focusing on you is good advice but remember, picking up chicks is a skill like any other. Yes if you work on yourself it helps, but they won't fall into your lap unless you reach total alpha status. You need to hone your skills and practice it.

Practice talking to chicks, innocent flirting etc. Don't expect it to go anywhere, but just get used to it any chance you get. Make small talk, get comfortable. That doesn't need to be "concerning yourself" with them.

Having basic social skills with women means you can focus on overcoming mental blocks and insecurities without simultaneously worrying about what to say and how to act. It will help a lot when you start moving into pick-up, hooking up and dating.

donkey_democrat 5y ago

Grades and school are everything. You don't get points for being lazy and getting all C's

red_matrix 5y ago

Focus on you - and the women should be a nice extra. At the end of the day it's what you make of it.

workinwithwood91 5y ago

That shit was prophetic. Preach man.

AshyLarry27 5y ago

Amen. You get to worked up on party lifestyle and women that you forget that shit ends. Remember to keep up with your future like if you will find a job with what you're studying, making good income out of school (most loans are like 300-900 a month depending on how much you took out, plus rent as anywhere from 700-1800 depending on where you live plus all the other shit you didn't have to worry about in college).

Just even following the basics of the side bar will get you though college.

Rudeyyyy 5y ago

Focus on your grades and don't fall behind. Pussy is good, but it's not the end all be all. Work your ass off and mold yourself into a man. Fuck girls, but get A's.

NotMyBestEffort 5y ago

get a degree - get decent grades. A's though are way over rated. No job interview will ever ask you what your GPA was. If you aren't going to be top of your class, be a happy ass graduate

Rudeyyyy 5y ago

Some majors require you to keep a certain GPA. I’m a business major and we need a 3.0 to get in and have to maintain a 2.75 or else we get kicked out. It’s not very hard but you still have to put in work.

615bachelor 5y ago

Lift weights and approach. Do not be scared to talk to women. The first few weeks of college is when women will be the sluttiest. You should be able to get a few plates unless you are socially awkward. Don’t talk about your major and what you wanna do for the future. Women don’t care about that until they are seniors looking for a Beta provider. Join a fraternity if you have the money because it will build your social skills and you will meet hundreds of women. But remember you are there to study.

I know guys who are making 10 dollars an hour because they was in college to fuck women. Pick a good major like accounting,nursing , engineering, computer tech, etc. most majors in college are bullshit

NeverPullSumo 5y ago

Thanks, bro! Nah. I’m not socially awkward at all. I genuinely have always been carefree when it came to approaching (after I hopped on the gain train of courseeeee)

Are they really the sluttiest the first few weeks though?

615bachelor 5y ago

Yes I got laid the first weekend. Soon as their parents drop them off they are looking for dick. It’s almost too easy to be honest . But I do workout and have a nice body so that did give me an advantage over 90% of guys. Height doesn’t mean much . I’m only 5”8.5 and I fucked plenty of women taller than me lol. You will see girls walking around campus by themselves and they are the easiest to approach . Just find a girl sitting on a bench or something or walking in a library.

615bachelor 5y ago

I just graduated college and can confirm this . I was in one of the top fraternities on campus and girls would have a different guy every week . Some girls would have multiple guys in a week. I know women who use to get gang banged in my dorm . Im talking about 5+ guys at once. College was the ultimate red pill experience if you was in a fraternity. There are plenty of women out there with 200+ sexual partners. It’s slick kind of depressing thinking about the things that women would do. Gang banging was a common thing at my college. I know conservative women with well rounded parents who went on a fuck fest in college . What makes it so sad is that one day a man will wife these women up and think they have something special. Most guys have no idea about their girls past. If they ask about her notch count she will say a number 1-5 like every women does .

jlunr 5y ago

Yeah I believe it. I was also in a fraternity at a large public state college. Some girls that would come to our parties banged multiple guys in my fraternity and that’s one fraternity out of many haha. Who knows how many guys they banged.

Also at college it’s so easy for girls to hop on Tinder and Bumble and get laid. So so easy. There’s many potential guys for them to choose from. I got a decent amount of numbers but I’ve been flaked on so many times because if some other guy who she matched with is seen as more attractive she’s going to pick him for the night. There’s over 40,000 undergraduates so tinder is used all the time, even to find dates to fraternity/sorority date parties or formals.

webleytempest 5y ago

Reminds me of Rollo’s excellent post:

https://therationalmale.com/2013/12/03/saving-the-best/

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toolboy_13 5y ago

That's the best article to show your friends. It's eye opening to most.

red_matrix 5y ago

That should be required reading for all men, and should be read every year after.

EumenesOfEfa 5y ago

This pill is particularly strong. My university in Germany is nothing like that! 200+ partners will turn her to damaged goods

storyreader123 5y ago

I also live in Germany, and there is definitely no term of comparison between Europe and USA, except for UK. There are a lot more sluts up there.

Heizenbrg 5y ago

God I wish I went to a college like that.
You will never find anything like that bro.

615bachelor 5y ago

Every college is like that . I went to mtsu in Tennessee and it’s not even a big party school. So I couldn’t imagine what girls are doing at big schools like Ohio state or Alabama. The modern day woman’s Peak SMV is now at the age of 18-19. By age 24 she was already been ran thru. Women look at sex like it’s not a big deal. You would think that I’m making stories up if I told you some of the things that I seen and I’m only 25 lol .

Heizenbrg 5y ago

Im 25 too went to a super small arts school which I fucking hated and commuted, went straight home to play games, very depressing years of my life as I missed out.
What other shut have you seen lol

615bachelor 5y ago

If you went to an art school then it should’ve been easy to get laid . It’s not good to be one of those guys on campus who rushes straight home after a class to play halo. College women are easy to approach. I banged 27 women in college. The only reason I stumbled across the red pill is because my ex had a new boyfriend the same weekend we broke up. I’m only 5”9 but I always had a “fuck these bitches” attitude. I think that’s due from being raised by a single mom lol. But after college it is harder to get laid because you will never be around thousands of attractive women. I work in a corporate office and it’s nothing but bitchy women and post wall sluts.

red_matrix 5y ago

If you went to college in the US then this was going on, you just didn't know about it. Girls who dress and act normal in your classes were doing this. My ex's friends said they wanted to fuck a new guy every week during freshman year. I would've never guessed these innocent girls were this way but she'd tell me all the shit that went down. Girls on campus live secret lives.

Heizenbrg 5y ago

I did commute to school but I was only there for classes.

red_matrix 5y ago

Campus life is the biggest red pill, the problem is most guys are completely oblivious to what's going on or don't want to believe it.

ThatOneDrunkUncle 5y ago

You don't understand how women view sex. It's not a dirty or bad thing to them. To young women it's empowering, fun, and feels good. They can use it for attention, validation, and attracting men. It costs them nothing, so why wouldn't they? Older women use sex as a weapon to get men to do what they want. Men are the ones who view sex as meaningful, and dirty when it's not us. They can't comprehend the idea that we see them as used goods when we learn about their sexual past. It's a completely different paradigm: nothing to them, everything to us.

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blownnnn 5y ago

Women are being exploited by pharmaceutical and media companies to sell their products like birth control, make-up products, fashion, movies, etc. This is why modern TV shows, music and movies are geared towards anti-men views and casual sex. For example, Netflix and chill was an advertisement campaign to combine those viewpoints: meaningless casual sex and vast media consumption.

I think western women are too fucked up (psychologically) to ever have real relationships with men because of how they've been bombarded with consumerism culture growing up, this is because they are working & making money now. It's gonna get worse with the collective feminism ideology emerging.

BewareTheOldMan 5y ago

Consumerism, feminist ideology, the toxic masculinity narrative, encouragement and acceptance of casual sex - among other things, and my all-time personal favorite..."Girl - you deserve the best."

The problem with encouraging and inculcating the message to women always "deserving the best" is there is no incentive for women either to improve themselves or improve their life to EARN the privilege of having the very best males. This aforementioned statement, along with these stupid "fat acceptance," Single Mother praise, chiding men for dating younger, affable, and more receptive women - and every other ridiculous social movement that attempts to shame men into supporting the feminist agenda and media narrative to male detriment.

Men have to compete with other men to obtain time, energy, loyalty, and dedication from the woman they want and desire - the idea that every woman deserves "Mr. Wonderful" is one of the worst marketing schemes and narratives of the 21st Century.

Just how does society reward men for dating and marrying obese women, Single Mothers, and dating older, used-up and passed around women? Good Men are expected to sacrifice their OWN well-being, preferences, and standards because...every woman "deserves" a Good Man.

Negative princess - you have to EARN the privilege to have a Good Man in your life. This is a requirement EVERY. DAMN. DAY. It's how you KEEP a Good Man interested in you and in your life, but many of today's princesses simply expect a man to worship the "magical vagina" on sight, without question, without hesitation, without judgment, and accept all a woman's flaws and NEVER complain. Obesity, Single Motherhood, high N-Count, emotional baggage, mental issues, financial problems...the list of nonsense that accompanies many women is a regular minefield of issues and problems.

Negative ladies - if women want a Good Man, they have to EARN the privilege.

NeverPullSumo 5y ago

I’m aware. I don’t look at her any differently or worse as a result. It’s simply a fact of life and I live my life with that knowledge.

We’re both still in high school. We’re seniors, so I’m glad I learned at an early age.

Frontestgecko 5y ago

Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise characters in eyes wide shut elucidate this concept very well in their dynamic and their behaviours.

Ch1pp 5y ago

My sister has a friend at uni who is a total slag and claims she was "made for sex". She came up in conversation recently about going through a bunch of guys one weekend and I said she sounded like a bit of a slag (to wind up my sister). The response:

"She's not a slag! She's just embracing her vagina!"

Never heard that one before.

Forcetobereckonedwit 5y ago

I hope you had the presence of mind to say "The whole town embraces her stanky vagina!".

jon94 5y ago

Sounds like there were lots of people embracing her vagina

Sparky159 5y ago

Sounds more like her vagina is embracing Chad's cock

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GOODLORD100 5y ago

I believe this.

My ex cheated with 8 guys, most of them very unattractive.

She said she liked the attention, was bored, said it feels good regardless of how they look, and it was right in front of her being offered she couldn’t really say no, as sex is not a big deal to her. It was definitely everything to me !

It’s funny, I said called her “used up” after this and she texted me months later “I can’t stop thinking about how you said I’d be used up”.

SovereignSoul76 5y ago

That's how you know it's a good line.

BewareTheOldMan 5y ago

It's because after cheating on a Good Man with 8 different other men in meaningless, frivolous sexual encounters the reality of casual sex has been transferred from the deep, dark recesses of her mind to the stark reality of her doomed future.

She's used goods, emotionally damaged, burned-out, stalled-out, incapable of productive and healthy male-female interpersonal relationships, and will likely NEVER have a Good Man in her life again. She realizes getting sex was easy, but securing commitment, loyalty, dedication, and "princess treatment" from a Good Man will prove much more elusive.

Even if she is so lucky to achieve a small aspect of relationship happiness and hope, she will have difficulty processing and enjoying the experience...all because she held a deeply personal and intimate activity in such low and casual regard.

It's almost as if most women either don't fully understand the emotional damage incurred based on slut behavior or they simply don't care...

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Pienpunching 5y ago

Inrecently read this article about campus, sex and how ‘the modern college girl prefers unattatched sex so she can focus on her studies”.

The girl being interview (referred to as X) punctuated the interview by stating “I am a feminist, I am a strong woman and I am independent. There is nothing wrong with this lifestyle.”.
Fair enough, right? Until it was followed by this sweet gem:
X declined to state how many men she had slept with out of fear of being judged.

Hang on, what was all that about being ‘strong and independent’ and there being ‘nothing wrong’? I constantly see these scenarios where women claim that they will be judged despite NEVER putting themselves in the situations where they claim they would be judged. They just immediately assume they will be judged based on nothing, and of course its mens faults because of course it is. Fact is that its women who judge other women.

Also read another article where the general consensus is that men are to blame for female teachers practicing paedophillia. I’m not making this up. Many websites resonated this sentiment.

BewareTheOldMan 5y ago

In the end women are not proud of their sexual history, they’re ashamed. It's the reason they outright lie, deceive, and conceal the truth of their sexual past.

It's the base reason men are so aggravated and have such visceral disgust for a woman who "presents" herself as virtuous and chaste at age 28 after spending years getting rammed and ran through by loads of different men since the age of 16. Notably - one woman in the Summary Posting had SEX WITH THREE MEN IN ONE DAY. It's disgusting on any level.

The insult is that ALL the wild, wanton, and enthusiastic sex these women offer very freely and easily to many men will NOT be replicated with the Beta Chump Provider they eventually "settle down with" and marry. Make no mistake - these women settle because "Chazz" an his ilk don't "do marriage."

Most women are instinctively and acutely aware that Bad Boys and douchebag losers are terrible husbands - hence they select and settle for the less attractive and much less sexually experienced, hardworking Beta Males who understand commitment, responsibility, loyalty, and accountability and who is a great husband and outstanding father figure.

Even more insulting is these women are frustrated these same loyal, committed, and hardworking men fail to "measure up" to Chazz and present them with "drama" and excitement - hence the eventual whining and complaining of her "dissatisfaction" and preparation for eventual divorce.

If there's no divorce, these women simply revert back to their slut-whore behavior while married to the Nice Guy who wants nothing more than a loyal, faithful, loving, and dutiful wife and mother to his children...assuming children produced in the marriage are even his biological kids...and that's assuming they can even produce healthy children after years of being slammed by numerous men, exposure to sexual diseases, and the "forgotten abortions" that affects a woman's ability to produce healthy children.

It's one of the reasons a seemingly otherwise "healthy" 30 to 32-year old woman has trouble conceiving and producing children, and has to resort to specialized doctors, procedures, and IVF because everyone is "confused" why conception is
"problematic."

The aforementioned scenarios are the numerous considerations for today's man in 21st Century dating, mating, and marriage and just some of the reasons women don't want to be judged base on their sexual history.

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The_Real_Cannaman 5y ago

Ex GF often talked about all the crazy sex she had, went on a camping trip and slept with her friends BF and spent the whole trip just having sex in the tent. All I got was boring disinterested missionary.

Can't believe she is that stupid. Litteraly brags about various sexual acts and cheating while giving u (not even) vanilla boring 'obligatory' sex...

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EumenesOfEfa 5y ago

Dude you dodged a bullet. +1

MattyAnon Admin 5y ago

it’s so easy for guys to get pussy, if you can’t get pussy then something is wrong with you

This is also placing all responsibility/blame squarely onto the shoulders of the man. You're either successful or you're to blame. Women are never to blame.

This irony was too much. She would be loyal to the man who treats her like shit and has cheated on her but is afraid of being with the man that treats her like a princess because she is afraid that she would cheat on him.

She's not afraid she'll cheat on him, this is just her almost socially acceptable hamstering. What she means is "I'd be fucking someone more exciting". In reality this is likely what she'll do anyway: marry BB and fuck some alpha, possibly even Jazz in this example.

You see those girls that you think are innocent, you have no idea how many of them are sleeping around and have chlamydia “ / This one hit me hard.

Don't forget here that she has a motivation to make other girls look bad for sleeping with you, thus increasing her own social standing. She's normalising promiscuity (so she doesn't look bad) while also saying those OTHER girls have chlamydia. She has not fucking idea how many of them have chlamydia, she's just playing the school social climbing game of making other women look bad.

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Mr-Ed209 5y ago

Agreed. The last point in particular is why you can't listen to what women say. Only judge what they do. Or asses their words to that medium.

cumfortably_dumb 5y ago

This is why I am here. I could have never ever looked at the scenario from this perspective.

Thank you so much.

bikermonk 5y ago

while also saying those OTHER girls have chlamydia. She has not fucking idea how many of them have chlamydia, she's just playing the school social climbing game of making other women look bad.

Wow some people can just see through shit

MattyAnon Admin 5y ago

It takes a while to lift the veils of obscuration that women and society put on us... but after a while it becomes crystal clear.

BewareTheOldMan 5y ago

This ONE woman alone (in the Summary Posting) is a treasure trove that confirms virtually everything TRP discusses on a regular basis - it's actually sad in a way, but it's great to know that TRP Maxims and Tenets isn't just RP rage and nonsense.

Folks on other social media forums rarely discuss the cold, hard truths about dating, mating, and marriage in the 21st Century. The insult is that many of these same women "embracing their vagina" and sexual freedom will be the ones screaming the loudest when they have trouble landing a Good Man when the man-hopping carousel ride comes to its inevitable end.

MattyAnon Admin 5y ago

but it's great to know that TRP Maxims and Tenets isn't just RP rage and nonsense.

That's the point here.... TRP is reality. It's not a process or an opinion or a strategy... it's a fundamental truth.

I get a bit tired of "girl shows TRP truths". Well of course they do, they always do, and only newbies doubt any of this stuff.

Folks on other social media forums rarely discuss the cold, hard truths about dating, mating, and marriage in the 21st Century

The truth is suppressed by wishful thinking from men and cries of "sexist!" and "misogynistic!" by women. It's suppressed by women because it's not in their best interests that the truth comes out, so they develop strategies to obfuscate their sexual-resource strategy.

Anyone being honest about sex and dating is instantly shamed. Not because it's untrue, but because people don't like it.

The whole "true love" thing is romantic idealism from people trying to fool biology and opt out of the sexual marketplace, which of course doesn't work and everyone who tries it fails. Women don't willingly fuck betas no matter how loudly they scream how romantic they are. Men don't like fat women no matter how much they are shamed into doing so.

swimminginblue 5y ago

Interesting, never thought of that perspective. Definitely a good lesson

Zachar1a 5y ago

Yeah, don’t read too much into that. Girls are catty, they call each other sluts and whores. Doesn’t mean it’s true, it just makes them look better. Actually if she is doing it with you, maybe she is interested in you? She is trying to make herself look better in your eyes by talking trash about the competition.

swimminginblue 5y ago

Her being interested in me has been brought up before and I do see it but unfortunately for her, due to my friendship, I am off limits.

Overkillengine 5y ago

Smart. A social circle can be useful for getting laid, but it can also unnecessarily complicate bailing when you need to. Especially when dealing with a woman trying to fuck her way up the social ladder within that circle.

magx01 5y ago

This is also placing all responsibility/blame squarely onto the shoulders of the man. You're either successful or you're to blame. Women are never to blame.

That's the reality though, biologically speaking. Women are the gatekeepers to sex. Men apply and women select/choose.

MattyAnon Admin 5y ago

Except it's not really like this. Get into the top 5% and get good at approaching women and you find yourself with a lot of choice and ditching most women very early in the process.

It stops being "I hope she likes me" and starts being "Let's see how this one works". Like test-driving cars to see which you like.

Once you have this mindset, and the value to back it up, things get easier.

EumenesOfEfa 5y ago

Isn't it largely a thing you cannot control? Regardless of my body shape, I still retain my average face. And I'd hate to flaunt a provider card.

MattyAnon Admin 5y ago

lose bodyfat for slimmer face. muscles won't make any difference.

As-You-Were 5y ago

This is a fantastic post.

6 months ago I used to consider myself like 70% TRP and 30% MGTOW - now it’s like a 90/10 split to TRP, and this is exactly why.

I’ve got 4 female friends - 2 of them are skanks. 100% thoroughbred, Out and out whores, who I love dearly because their slutty ways are like a subscription to an industry insider magazine.

You’ve gotta have different kinds of people in your circle to keep learning the game.

swimminginblue 5y ago

Haha exactly, you see how the game really works, as satisfying as it is, it’s also depressing sometimes lol

AshyLarry27 5y ago

I tell people I have female friends and they look at me funny sometimes because this kind of thinking goes right over their heads. Just because we're friends, you think I hit them up 24/7 and discuss sports and politics or "what that skanky slut Connie was wearing" the other day? I keep it at just going out with them for preselection, we have our inside jokes, we disperse and have fun for the night. Every one in a while I'll grab lunch with them. This poisonous "no girls allowed" mentality is why I think most men turn into bitter hateful incels and just fuck themselves over mentally. You don't have to put up a cross at every broad you're not fucking. Just stay present and kick out current or "future problem" chicks.

I don't full on advocate this as I have friends that are more average looking and we generally reconnect at the end, tight family from college that meets up in their late 20s. When you go out, it's not to add another family member to the crew, its to fuck or put more plates in the cabinet. Period.

askmrcia 5y ago

I have female friends too and I can honestly say all the ones I was attracted too I did make a move on them at one point.

They weren't interested and that's fine. But yea we'll meet up go out for drinks every now and then and shit like that.

Like you we have our inside jokes and I have no problem saying sexual shit or grabbing their asses every now and then.

But by no means am I contacting these women 24/7 to gossip. That's being friendzoned and a beta orbiter.

But these women will hook me up with their friends and other girls. One girl I'd consider my friend hooked me up with her sister. I owe her for that because that was being the ultimate wing man.

Another one of these girls invited me to go with her group of friends (lesbians) to a swingers club. Guys have to have a date to get in while the women can go by themselves or with other group of girls. But yea she had no issue being my date to go.

kyzen142 5y ago

I have always thought this if she is hot she is getting laid more than you would like to believe. They just have more opportunities too many opportunities for sex.

Nocryingok 5y ago

Remember that, on OKCupid, women rate 80% of men as below average. (just google it for proof)

EumenesOfEfa 5y ago

The original blogpost was taken down by OKC. Here is the archive: https://archive.is/ZJymw

jr3jf4 5y ago

What's her education level/Is she good at school? Won't she/they worried about the consequence( i suppose alpha/red/purple guy wont marry them) if they fuck chads around at their best years?

BewareTheOldMan 5y ago

This is the problem - when everything else and sex is so easy to obtain simply because a woman is pretty and has numerous men falling all over themselves just to get a whiff of a hot chick's soiled underwear, they don't "see" or more accurately, foresee consequences.

To them the buffet doesn’t end, but it ends...eventually - and then comes the whining and caterwauling of "Where Are All the Good Men?"

swimminginblue 5y ago

Sophomore in college, relatively intelligent in her subject field ( humanities, think social work, religion etc )

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Bruchibre 5y ago

Wow Mary had a nice b'day party, 3 guys in 1 night. Maybe your friend exaggerated a little...

“it’s so easy for guys to get pussy, if you can’t get pussy then something is wrong with you”

- I've heard things like that before. Girls understand nothing. They think we can just go into a club and pickup a random girl, though how often does it happen to them or their friends to be easily picked up by a random guy? never? ah.

Though I'd agree with half of it. If you cant get pussy then something is wrong with you :) but it's definitely not easy.

It must be nice to have this girl to hand around and get to know what's up from a girls point of view.

swimminginblue 5y ago

It’s no exaggeration unfortunately, I thought it was too. Yeah I learn so much from her

Bruchibre 5y ago

Is she herself promiscuous? do you have any chance to have a go with her? :)

swimminginblue 5y ago

She’s off limits for me. Friendship is more important

Bruchibre 5y ago

Agree with that. You'd better keep her as a friend / source of info / potential wing :)

Interesting point about the beta guy, when she says she'd cheat on him. But I can imagine, she doesn't seem to be the typical "good girl who just wants to meet a nice guy and be in a relationship", hot as she is she probably wants some bad boy fun drama for now.