Not all religious women will act like that, but they damn sure will still be thinking negatively about their husband in that situation, even if not acting in it. But yeah the implications for us are still the same. Do you want to be the schlub whose woman disdains him, even in the best case scenario where she's religious enough to not cheat? Of course not. Gotta be hard driving for superiority.

Packing on muscle is a big red pill when women start treating you totally differently.

Love--as culturally defined in America--has little to do with sex and relationships. People call it love but it really is a combination of factors on the women's side:

(But can often be felt by the man)

Loyalty

Dedication to raising children

Someway of convincing herself she loves her husband when in fact this is a mechanism to compensate for guilt or convince herself to believe in fairy tales.

Sentimentality and emotions

Implied in these ideas is that it would be more trouble to make life-changes than, say, have an affair.

For a few years, at every menial job I had (around 19-21 years old), a married woman working there would come on to me. At one place the owner's married daughter would literally flirt agresively with me right in front of her mom. My dad cheated on my mom and it was the end of their marriage, so I never wanted to be a part of causing that kind of shit show for someone else's family. But it taught me a lot about how loyal married women are. Not too much. Even the ones that acted like they haf the perfect marriage/family/Christian values etc. For some women, that stuff all goes out the window when something gives them the tingles.

Welcome to The Red Pill, where everything you were led to believe is thrown out the window. I'm not a natural chad, but I've gotten girls numbers who had boyfriends and had girls(with boyfriends) approach me before. Really makes you question if you should ever settle down and get married.

Yeah, people will show their true colors if they believe it won't have any consequences.

I had LTR with girl from very religious family...desptite she always talking about honesty and how she wants to have family and wedding with me she fucked some rich fat dude on a boat...Iam always amazed how a lot of people here think that religious girl will have hypergamy under control...just watch arabic states that girls there still fuck other dudes despite the dead penalty....nature does not care about honesty,religion..nature wants breeding

Do most people on here never socialize? I don't see why some of these concepts are so difficult to internalize. Hypergamy being one of the easiest to understand imho.

Good FR but this is not all about women. Everyone do what they shoudnt if it is advantageous.

I wont be able to trust any future female companion

Dont trust males too. Everyone may shit on you.

It's also ok to not sleep with someone you know to be a married women if you don't want to. Game is about having choices, it's still ok to have boundaries too.

Don't confuse low quality women with high quality women. Yes, sounds like you're improving, she could have chose to cheat with another guy but she chose you so obviously she found you attractive, but if it wasn't you it would have been another guy because she's a low quality woman with no values. Women cheating is all about their own lack of values, not you. If a guy is a loser then a quality women will end the relationship, or never enter one in the first place, but she won't cheat.

Best phrase I've read here over the years - "It's just your turn".

This is a good honest post from someone new to this who is expressing the visceral, physical pain that swallowing the red pill can induce. You either can choke it down or cough it back up violently and still kinda have the taste in your mouth.

How many guys would cheat if they were married to a dumpy chick and a young Sofia Vergara came up to them and wanted to fuck them, and genuinely made the guy believe that she wanted to fuck him and there was no way the girl would find out? 99% of the straight married guys would do it.

People are just shitty and selfish, and they are like this because of an overwhelming drive to maximize their access to sex and resources. You can feel however you want to feel about it, but this is where you have to internalize the precursor to TRP. The very first red pill your parents probably had to give you at one point in your childhood when you shouted "that's not fair!"

"Life's not fair." This is the nucleus that I believe all things TRP spawn out of. Life doesn't reward you according to how moral you are, the bad guy often wins, and money does indeed make it way easier to be a happy, successful, better person.

Drink it in, be angry, complain to your friends, swear off women for a month, go MGTOW, feel sick, etc, and then accept it and deal with this shitty planet we all share. The knowledge you need to succeed in life does mean that you become exposed to uglier truths about how people work.

Most women won't abandon ship the moment a better male wants to have sex with her. But if that better male is willing to date us and commit...we're out within few weeks,all of us.

Don't hate us for it.Be the better man.

Religion? No girl truly believes that. Like trying to impose communism on a cat.

Also: don't judge so hard...men abandon ship just as much,they just feel worse about it...still,they do leave. HB9 who is sexual and nice with a strong girl game can divorce 10 guys within a few months.

There is no male-female loyalty.And that isn't a tragedy. Grow out of it.

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You ever believed that marriage has this magical spell that makes the partner forever loyal to the other and makes you happily ever after? None of your relationships has a guarantee. Not through marriage, not through labels of BF/GF, not even friendships. It is based on what you give to them and what you get out of it, and how long one or the other is content with the relationship.

Man that sucks. We only have ourselves on this world. Forget friends, loves, whatever. And never count on others to make you complete.

I think the modern problem is most men hope they will find their equal, a woman with same sense of purpose, drive and honor to co create a life and family. But then shit like this happens and even if you win its shit.

PS: just recently broke up with same type of child pushing gf. Never been comfier.

You wonder why the feminine imperative wants to import third world cavemen? Its because they're so deprived of alpha male dominance, they'll go out on dates with random dudes, while married, just to get that spike of submission and discipline from a guy who knows his boundaries and is willing to enforce them.

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Men look for contentment and stability and women look to upgrade. A man will quite happily say "this one will do" but women constantly think "can i do better?". As soon as something better comes along they will want it.

If you lift you're immediately better than most of the men who don't. You're stronger, look like more of a protector and look (even if you're not) more confident.

From an evolutionary perspective so long as a woman can reproduce they tick all the necessary boxes, the rest is personal preference (how they look, what their personality is like). But in terms of men there are hard and fast objective rules about what makes a better man. If you're stronger you're better, if you come across as confident you're better, if you look like you can provide you're better. And if the man she already has is lacking those things you will be seen as better than him and a potential upgrade.

tl;dr It basically boils down to "I should fuck whichever one would win a fight between my husband and this guy".

edit; shit it's my cake day!

Catholic smatholic.

Means nothing in this day and age for most people. I'm not religious, but from what I observe, a lot of people who identify their self with a religion are just trying to better their image. The ones who are really "practicing" don't feel a need to promote it. Practicing is the reward in and of itself.

"Then she went home to hubby. This has never happened to me before.

I know one of you Chads would have fucked her, too, but I'm not that good yet. Will probably happen at the next date."

Don't f_ck women you are not attracted to just because they come onto you. P_ssy is not that special.

Human nature is stronger than any ideology.

Had a similar realization when I made out with a good friend from high school I knew since bluepill days. (I'm 21 now so 3 years out of highschool). I always wanted to date her, and now she has a boyfriend, but me and her ended up going out and she was making out with me like a slut for half the night. Only faced LMR when we were in her bed and our shirts came off. Stuff shocked me and I'll never look at her, or any woman the same.

Women have evolved to fall in 'love' with the conquering rapist who just killed their husband, expecting male morality and love from them is silly.

Yep, I've seen it myself. And it really is sad. How can you trust any girl after she does that? For those of us at have a moral compass, it's shocking.

Get a physique, once you start reaping benefits, that anger goes away, and you'll think it's supposed to be this way

Just recently had a similar experience. I was out at a club with some friends who know how to have fun. We were on the dance floor and just having a good time when we noticed these 2 tall hot chicks standing next to us glancing over. My buddy went over to talk to them and invited them into our group. I saw my buddy talking to one of them so I went over to her friend. Within a minute we were dancing closely. I tried to kiss her at one point but she pulled away. She said she had to go, I asked for her number, she said she couldn't, she then raised her hand and showed me the ring on her finger. I walked away to meet with my friends in the patio.

We head back to the dance floor and start dancing again and enjoying ourselves. I notice the married girl dancing by herself and her friend (the one my buddy was talking to) at the bar being hit on by some guy. I think for a second if I should go talk to the married girl and offer some vanilla dancing, but I decide to spend my time better with my friends and look out for a new non married girl. While i'm dancing and having fun, I feel someone poking my arm. I turn and it's the married girl, she asks if I want to dance. I decide to dance with her and try to escalate one more time since she came to me. We start dancing and she lets me grab her ass and grinds on me. I go in for a kiss and although she hesitates for a second, she kisses back. The last hour of the club we spend it at a booth making out. I get her IG and her #. We're meeting up again next week.

Nice lil FR

Its not female behavior that is sickening you. It's the incongruence of actual female behavior with the bullshit expectations of women you wrongfully believed.

Don't sweat the emotional discomfort awakening brings. We all have been there.

What I can tell you, for me anyways, is that you can love women again but you will love them as they are and this trust canard you mention has nothing to do with it

I love women and trust them to be women. THIS IS HOW MEN LOVED WOMEN FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS.

They are lovable yet dont hold the keys to my happiness

Stick around and keep us updated

Don't fuck the married girl her husband will find out and things will get messy, trust me I know...

"Catholic" and "Catholic but..." seem the same, but are very, very different.

Her religion has been "catholic but approaching strangers with chances of cheating".

Curious if/how your RP-ing has affected your professional life.

My only advice is don't fuck married women.

You don't want angry blue pill husband with a shotgun coming after you. Not worth the trouble.

I've had numerous people die in my ED for putting their dick in some other man's woman. Not worth the risk.

She isn't a practicing Catholic and that is obvious from this story, since on practice she is approaching man outside her marriage and this is incongruent to Catholicism, so she is a non-practicing Catholic. She is in mortal sin. Now about the story itself, yes, we are all fucked up sinners that sin like her in many occasions, and I am glad that Catholicism recognizes that and give a workable way to salvation, unless most new-age bullshit that says things like there is no sin, you're perfect, etc. No, we are not. We are screwed and only God incarnate can help us.

Panzerbier, as you enter the Manoshpere, and TRP deeper, I'd like to give you a great little resource, THe 16 Commandments Of Poon. Maybe not the ideal starting point, but a very adequate one among many:

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/the-sixteen-commandments-of-poon/

Good luck, sir.

Get over it. Im sick of posts about how women are so bad, get over it. This is food for the neurotic narcissist who would rather blame women then improve themselves. Don't get married, workout at the gym.

Fuck women, fuck everybody else you should be so focused on how to improve your own life you barely think about other people.

She wasn't a "practicing Catholic." She's a "self-identified Catholic." This is, unfortunately, true of most self-professed religious people. Based on a study of over 400 regular church attenders, 18.65% of regular church-goers would meet a basic biblical standard of "saved." Most people in church think they're saved just because they go to church and participate, maybe even help as a volunteer every now and then, but they don't have a real relationship with Jesus.

My guess is she's one of those people who participates and volunteers to make herself feel good and give some false reaffirmation, but she hasn't legit been transformed by God yet. If you had found one of the 18.65%, my guess is that your experience would likely have been different (depending on how mature in her faith such a girl would be) - not that the woman herself would be any different (AWALT), but that (at least from my view, take it or leave it) God tends to step in and protect those who pursue him from succumbing to temptation like this. She'd want to, but she would be convicted and stop herself.

Oh, you can trust any future female companion, just trust them to behave like a female and you'll know what to expect. It may not be today or even soon if you're on top of your game, but someday, somewhere, she will tingle and betray. If you haven't strayed yourself by then; shame on you.

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People cheat. Both men and women. First thing we all need to acknowledge.

And as the societal consequences of cheating become laxer for everyone, cheating also becomes more widespread or at least more easily recognised. Get used to it and enjoy the decline.

Oh boy... If only this wans't a non personal information disclosure area... I destroyed more than 10 relationships xd

"I know one of you Chads would have fucked her"

LOL at you believing there's any "Chads" in this place :D