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Do women think you’re a ‘nice guy’? Do you find yourself square in the friend zone with women again and again? I understand this frustration as well as anyone (I didn’t get my first kiss until I was 19).
Over years of trial and error I learned how to become emotionally (and sexually) attractive to women- in this article I’m going to share one of the most powerful lessons I’ve learned about success with women.
What Women Really Want
Women want to be swept of their feet. They want to meet a man who is thrilling, even somewhat dangerous. They want a man who brings them into a new reality where anything is possible, a guy who makes all her thoughts about work, errands, drama--- vanish.
Some men, referred to as ‘naturals’ intuitively understand this and have a mindset that helps them give women what they really want. The power of this mindset is due to a psychological concept known as emotional contagion.
Emotional contagion means that whatever emotion we’re feeling gets spread like a disease to those near us. Scientists have found most laughter, for example, isn’t a direct result of a joke being funny, it’s a result of the laughter of others.
Surely, you’ve felt when someone else was anxious or uncomfortable around you. This was antimagnetic, wasn’t it? It made you want to get away from them. The same concept applies to dating.
Most men are too doubtful in their interactions with women, and because they doubt themselves, the women they interact with doubt them as well. The average man is in a constant state of looking for signals that the girl likes him. If he gets enough signals, he may move things forward.
He spends the interaction wondering if she will be okay with it if he makes a move. He wonders if she will reject him if he puts his arm around her or if he suggests hanging out at his place. His doubtfulness makes her feel doubtful, she can’t put a finger on it, but something feels a little off.
He can tell that she seems a bit uncomfortable, so he assumes that she’s not that into him, so he keeps his foot off the gas. He was planning on inviting her to his place, but now he doesn’t want to ruin his chances with her by moving things forward too quickly. When the date ends, he says goodbye, and kisses her on the cheek.
He texts her but she doesn’t return his messages. He figures she didn’t find him attractive, takes this as a blow to his self-esteem, and on his next date with a girl, is even more doubtful.
That guy (who represents the average man, btw) has got himself in quite the pernicious trap. Despite what he thought, the women he has dates with are (often) attracted to him. Unfortunately, when he’s on a date, the girl can sense he’s feeling uncomfortable, and then, as a result, she feels uncomfortable.
It’s tough, because how is he supposed to know that the women he dates are uncomfortable because of his own discomfort?
Positive Assumption
The rare men who are naturally successful with women have a mindset in common. They assume the girl likes them until proven otherwise. They move things forward until the girl indicates she wants to slow it down. When he walks next to her, he immediately grabs her hand. When he wants to kiss her, he holds her and leans in. When he wants to take her home, he invites her over.
A girl is much more attracted to a decisive guy because his lack of doubt makes her feel comfortable. Ironically, the guy who is afraid of making a girl uncomfortable by being too forward makes her uncomfortable by being indecisive.
The normal guy tries to avoid awkwardness by waiting until he’s absolutely sure a girl likes him to make a move, but he’s creating more awkwardness than he’s avoiding.
The natural is more attractive to women because he’s more assertive. That sense that a guy knows what he wants and that he’s unhesitant to go for it, that is in itself a turn on.
To be fair, when the natural gets rejected, he will get rejected more overtly than the nice guy, but he also doesn’t spend all his time feeling stressed and wondering, “What if I went for it?”
Adopt the Natural’s Mindset
If you’re like the average guy who gets stuck in the friend zone it will help you to make a habit of taking assertiveness challenges. A very simple one is to go to any store and ask for an item free of charge. You probably won’t get the item for free, but that’s not the point. You’re facing the risk of rejection head on. This will help you build your assertiveness like a muscle.
The second component to becoming a guy who is compelling to women is to change your mindset. Your mindset is the lens through which you see the world. If you’re an extremely positive person your mindset might say that people are friendly and success is readily attainable by anyone if they work for it. If you’re more negative you might think that people are negative and success only comes to those with unfair advantages.
One mindset isn’t necessarily more objectively accurate than the other. But there is no one right way to view the world, the right way is the way that helps you. Furthermore, mindsets are often self-fulfilling prophecies. In psychology, this is called the Pygmalion effect: people who believe they will be successful are more likely to be successful simply because they believe they will be.
This is because the belief that you will be successful changes your behavior. If you believe you are destined for success you’re more likely to take the risks that you must take to succeed. Take me, for example. I know I’m not the best writer in the world, but I act like I’m destined to succeed. I regularly pitch articles to large websites with a million plus visitors per month. Sure, a lot of the time I get rejected. But I’ve also gotten published on some large publications and have gotten paid as much as $150 for writing a 1000-word article even though I’ve only been writing for about six months.
I’m not succeeding because I have some unusual talent or skill, I’m succeeding because my mindset entitles me to work hard and take risks.
Similarly, what do you think will happen if your mindset says that women aren’t that attracted to you. Well, you’re not going to want to approach a woman because you don’t think her day is going to be better for it. You’re not going to want to lean in to kiss a girl because you don’t think she really wants to. You’re not going to try to bring her back to her place if you think women aren’t turned on by the sheer sex-appeal of your presence.
I’m not saying objective reality doesn’t exist. Sure, if you’re physically unattractive, that’s a disadvantage (and you can and should work on it). But, by cultivating a positive mindset, your chances with women will improve no matter how objectively attractive you are.
Your positive beliefs will translate into assertive behaviors that will be more attractive to women. It might be hard to believe this if you haven’t experienced it, but I’ve seen guys who were far below average looking regularly succeed with highly attractive women. I’ve also seen guys who are much better than average looking totally fail with women. And the difference was their mindset.
The Seducer’s Mindsets
“Every woman wants me.” Delusional, I know. But can you see how this mindset can help you? You see the cashier making strong eye contact and you think, “She wants me.” Or, you see the cashier look away and make poor eye contact and you think, “She’s nervous because of how much she wants me.”
Is it true? Probably not (although, you never know). The point is, when you think she wants you, you’re much more likely to ask her for her number. And the very fact that you are confidently asking for her number is attractive. This doesn’t mean she will find you attractive, but it increases your odds. Beyond that, your odds would have been 0 if you didn’t try.
When I was developing this mindset, I would literally walk around and imagine that every woman who came near me was turned on by my presence. As far as I was concerned when a girl heard my voice, she would go home later and finger herself to the memory.
There’s an important nuance that I want to hammer in here. I knew on some level this wasn’t totally true. But I let myself flirt with the idea, it was a fun experiment. What shocked me, was over time, it actually worked.
Women have started saying things like, “I haven’t felt butterflies like that in years,” or “We shouldn’t be left in a room together.” Why? Because I’ve started to genuinely believe that women are turned on by me. That belief helps me to take assertive actions and project a sexual vibe.
Yes, I still get rejected by women, (because they’re too nervous in the presence of the most attractive man in the world.. ;) but I also have a lot more success with women. You should be skeptical about this. If you haven’t personally experienced it, it might seem absurd. But how do you know for a fact that this doesn’t work? I invite you to give it a try. Be skeptical, but see what happens when you start intentionally mindfucking yourself to believe that women are attracted to you. See if you start to take more risks. If you start to see women being more attracted to you. Maybe mindset is total bullshit, maybe it isn’t. Don’t take my word for it. Try it for yourself.
I’ve found that by practicing assertiveness and intentionally pretending that every woman I meet is attracted to me; I’ve actually become more attractive to women. I’ve found that my self-belief is in itself attractive. It’s strange because it’s very intangible and it’s not something that seems like it should be attractive.
Yet, I used to be that nice guy who went on four dates before a girl finally lost interest, and now I’m not. See what happens when you start to filter your thoughts through the mindset, “Women find me extremely attractive.” You might make some interesting discoveries.
You can find more of my writing at: http://redpilltheory.com/
white_girl_lover 6y ago
I loved this post and am glad you shared, definitely will apply right away.
Thank you.
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how bout i just use hookers instead? who has the time to think about all this lame horseshit.
MillionaireSexbomb 6y ago
If you want to have to pay women to pretend to be interested in your life go right ahead
Socialinception 6y ago
If that's what you want to do then you would have no reason to click on articles that are clearly not aimed at someone who just wants to buy hookers.
prostaddict 6y ago
Great post. One thing that personally helped me - especially with that last point - is getting myself in shape. It's easier to see yourself as the prize and drive that mindset when you're satisfied with what you see in the mirror
Socialinception 6y ago
Absolutely. The only thing to be careful here is a lot of people get perfectionist about this and tell themselves, "Once I"m at 7% bodyfat I'll start doing game."
As long as you don't fall into that trap, improving your physique is very helpful.
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Socialinception 6y ago
I disagree. Women can seem fickle but if you understand the underlying psychological principles guiding their behaviors you can use your understanding of what they want to get what you want from them.
TheHustlingWizard 6y ago
Agreed man. If a woman doesn't appreciate your qualities then move on to someone who does.
showerdudes99 6y ago
One of the best posts i've read on this sub. I've noticed this myself, i'm an old bluepill with still a lot of bluepill habits (recently swallowed redpill a month or two ago). Recently not fapping has given me such a confidence boost and i walk like i represent the sex god himself and a lot of times when i have eyecontact with women and am at the top of my confidence, it feels like they are drawn to my sexual energy and magnetism, they will check me out like they want me to just fuck them on the spot. I have that insane confidence when walking out but i have 0 game and 0 escalation so i just keep it to eyefucks, smiles and then i move on, i've lost maybe 100's of fuck-chances by not approaching as i see them fling their hairs and do all the most obvious IOI's possible, smiling back/giving submissive looks and whatnot.
/blueballed for life
Socialinception 6y ago
You probably have missed 100s of chances. When I started I couldn't approach or escalate at all and I didn't think I'd ever be able to. But through persistence I was able to change that, the same'll happen for you man.
showerdudes99 6y ago
Yeah i know, i'm just mentally masturbating myself so much when i have those days when women are checking me out because i'm just radiating confidence and has almost this sort of "glow". I havent had sex in so long also and it's like those flirtings and confidence boosts almost replaced sex, as ridicilous as it may sound. I need to start escalating a bit though, I have a feeling that on one of those days I could be talking to a woman and be fucking her maybe 20 minutes later if I play the game right. I just need to take the first step and fucking approach her.
Yesterday was ridicilous. I was sitting in the sun after my gym session in the morning, doing some meditation. I see this pretty hot but a bit older woman (maybe 30ish but hey you gotta start somewhere) holding hands with her husband walking, i give her a confident smile not giving a fuck she was walking with her husband, she notices it and blushes and looks down then after a while she comes back without her husband (like she was walking with him to somewhere just to keep him company) and she smiles back. I just sit there and as she keeps walking towards her place she flings her hair, plays with it, moves in an insanely feminine way with her hips. I just sit there and watch her go like a blue pill. She must have thought i was homosexual or something. unless im mistaken she definitely wanted me to follow her home? or what do i even do in that situation lol.
Leonidas_79 6y ago
What kind of effects did you feel when you stopped whacking off?
showerdudes99 6y ago
No more anxiety. Increased confidence. Mental clarity. Brain fog gone. Stronger/more energy, better gym gains etc. Question is rather what effects i DIDNT feel. Oh plus this crazy glow some days where i get women drawn to me like flies to shit for whatever reason i dont understand. It has never happened in my life before. Like some magnetism. Idk if its pheromones or what. If i had a wet dream or ejaculated then the same said women who would suck me dry on the spot would ignore me completely lol. As if they sense my balls are empty :D
RU_Student 6y ago
This mindset is a great way to extend self-confidence. The internal dialogue you have eventually becomes the way you present yourself to others. You might not have to lie to yourelf and believe that you are the best at something bar none, but knowing in the back of your mind that you have the drive and motivation to succeed regardless of the circumstances goes a very long way - even past the dating world. Good post
Socialinception 6y ago
Yeah, definitely applies to anything. A lot of it has to do with entitlement, when you have a positive filter for yourself it enables you to feel entitled to take the risks that will lead you to succeed in any area of your life.
iwasbornred 6y ago
Can confirm. Fake it till you make it works so well for certain guys, especially those who are at least average looking or better.
They've always had the firepower, they are just gunshy.
metallicdrama 6y ago
Women want someone who is genuine and genuinely a strong version of themselves. Stop trying to meet extrinsic measurements. Be the strongest version of yourself. Whatever you do, own it, hone it, master it. Even if it's nerdy as fuck. King nerd is still better than average Chad.
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Agree on this. Consistently see advice here on how to get a job that attracts women, hobbies that attract women, etc.
Fuck that. You will be miserable and there is nothing "alpha" about living a lie for someone else. Be the best version of yourself. You might not attract them all but you shouldn't care if you don't
metallicdrama 6y ago
This. All these chumps get bluepilled at work all day then think their bank account makes them alpha while garbage men get more pussy than them. Then resent the happy garbage man for fucking his wife who lost interest because he's a miserable betabux.
MonsterinNL1986 6y ago
Perfect article. You killed it bro!
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Leonidas_79 6y ago
You sir, know your shit. I did the exact same and it really does work.
"Fake it 'til you make it"
innit
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scissor_me_timbers00 6y ago
You've posted this before, I can remember reading it. It's solid insight tho, good post.
Socialinception 6y ago
yeah, it was on the main page of reddit and some mod deleted it so I had to repost.
Menstrual-Cyclist 6y ago
Hmm. Positive messages, no rage, and genuinely useful self-improvement information for building a solid mindset. TRP could use more of this.
Good post OP.
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Socialinception 6y ago
Agreed, some of the posts I've seen recently have me thinking WTF
cornylamygilbert 6y ago
is this literally the best advice I've heard that puts all the "puzzle" pieces together (at least for me anyway)?
yes I think it is
Alexinfinite01 6y ago
This is a fantastic and simple article. Thank you for writing it. I have been practicing trying to this out and even though my success with women hasn't been the best lately I have found that it has genuinely put me in a better mood and mind set throughout my day. It really is a win/win method of living
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Socialinception 6y ago
All women want both, it's not black and white.
I could title it "What women really want within the context of their short-term mating strategies" but that wouldn't have the same punch to it.
farendsofcontrast 6y ago
Are you denying the AWALT principle you fuckin noob? There are primal buttons inside every woman that you can hit with the right words/actions. And all those buttons produce the same result in every woman. Also don't ever ask a woman what she wants. Women don't know what they want. They say they want something but they crave something else. Its your job to give her something and tell her this is what she needs. I know some women are not as degenerate as western sluts but they're still women nonetheless and the things we learnt here have worked on women from all over the world for centuries.
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farendsofcontrast 6y ago
Lol are you serious man. Where are you people even coming from?
reecewagner 6y ago
He says, not recognizing that his initial post did the same thing
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hopeyesperanza 6y ago
Jesus fuck I dipped in here to see what all the fuss was about and a bigger collection of wankers I have never seen in my life. You little shits are pathetic!
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It's so funny you decide to post this on a self improvement post and not some random shitforbrains woman hating post
Thephilhouse 6y ago
I've read a few of this guys posts and they have all been spot on.
Socialinception 6y ago
Thanks, there's more to come ;)
Biptyboptybacon 6y ago
Honestly the best "beginner" advice I've read on TRP
Socialinception 6y ago
Wow, thanks, I appreciate it.
HAMMURABl 6y ago
Its actually not even beginner advice, but advanced.
HAMMURABl 6y ago
Its actually not even beginner advice, but advanced.
Biptyboptybacon 6y ago
Fair nuff, best advice I've read as a beginner myself
pmmedenver 6y ago
Great post, this is exactly what I needed to hear. Rest assured I'll be checking out your website.
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keysomea 6y ago
Yo great post OP gave me some good laughs but really that was very good. Your post refreshes my eyes from the other posts which are mainly guys raging about anything they would like to.
Socialinception 6y ago
There is a lot of victim mentality in TRP which is a shame because there's a lot of potential here.
keysomea 6y ago
Victim mentality is typical of Nice Guys and AFCs that is just smh
Leonidas_79 6y ago
I can't help but read "Arsenal FC" every time i see AFC, smh...
ChickenBalotelli 6y ago
Glad you reposted....i was disappointed when i couldnt re-read it
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Chazn8r79 6y ago
Is there more info. On this?
Socialinception 6y ago
This article was inspired by Julien Blanc's old Youtube content (2012-2014) so you could check that out. The channel name is Julienfreetour
https://redpilltheory.com/product/become-confident/ This book, Zero Fucks Given, goes into mindset and self-belief in depth.
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A hitler video. I can't understand why everyone hates TRP!!! Thats why I dig TRP. Society would rather dispose of "bad" history despite what we may learn from it (I.E. medical research documents completely destroyed due to unethical practices). That dude was an increadible speaker; how one feelz about his actions matters not. Ill take the lessons.
Future_Alpha 6y ago
Despite what people think of the Nazi's they made great strides in medical understanding.
Those idiots censoring research because of 'unethical' (whatever that means) practices are the same christian idiots who censored science for 500 years in Europe, until the Renaissance.
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ionforge 6y ago
As much as he destroyed my country, Hugo Chavez is the best speaker I have ever hear, that guy truly talked to the soul of his followers, he could make them believe everything he told them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSh3EBOdcP0
Check how everyone goes to absolute silence when he is speaking, to screaming when he wants then to do it.
Adam1394 6y ago
It was not destroyed. Bayern used those researches for years after WW2.
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Socialinception 6y ago
Constructive criticism on reddit? Unusual, but I appreciate it.
I'll definitely analyze how and why those speeches speak to the unconscious, it's a good idea.
Do you have any examples of (non-speech)writing that really speaks to the soul?
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virusofthemind 6y ago
Great post. Attraction happens way below conscious awareness- you don't "decide" to find someone attractive- and as, such discovering the "vector" of communication of attractiveness and consciously injecting "attraction triggers" is the core remit of all pua.
Socialinception 6y ago
Yeah, the fact that it happens outside of conscious awareness is incredibly important. Tricky to really grasp, but once you do there's a lot of power in that.
thetrpthrowaway 6y ago
Can we get a TL;DR? A.K.A - The actual how to?
I'm feeling like this post could've been condensed into shorter version.
Thanks for reposting
virusofthemind 6y ago
Salesmen are told to "assume the sale" before they interact with the prospect. It's the same criteria here. It's the limbic brain which pings every interaction to see what the frame is. When you adopt the mindset to the point it's congruent with your identity that she is attracted to you, then you give off BMIR's (behavioral manifestations of internal representations) and her mirror neurons incorporate the frame into her global workspace. She feels the tingles.
When your frame is solid her pre frontal cortex gives up mediating and attentuating the signals from her emotional attraction centres and she "drops into frame".
You actually create the reality.
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Socialinception 6y ago
Whenever you interact with a woman, interpret everything she does as, "Damn she wants me." If a girl makes eye contact tell yourself it's because she's attracted to you, if she doesn't make eye contact tell yourself it's because she's too nervous to make eye contact with you because she's so attracted to you.
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