The easiest way to raise your value as a man is to spend a majority of your day engaged in high value activities.
We know instinctively what are high value activities: lifting, working on your career, working on your side career, approaching women, learning a valuable skill, etc...
Most men spend most of their day engaged in low value activities: watching tv, surfing the net, engaged in social media. Consequently, most men find themselves living a mediocre life.
This seems like very simple advice, but in practice, it's very hard. It's hard to consistently wake up early and go to the gym - it's hard to put your head down and work on your career without surfing the internet or taking breaks - it's hard to put your ego on the line and approach women every day. However, it is these hard tasks which, repeated daily, will forge you into a higher value man.
Of course, we can't spend all day being a hardass. We need to relax. That's why I emphasize spending a majority of your day engaged in high value activities. For example, in a 16 hour day, I'll likely spend 12 hours engaged in high value stuff, and 4 hours of goofing off. Some days I might work a bit more, some days I might work a bit less, but that's about average.
If you're ever confused whether an activity is high value or low value, keep in mind that every activity will be different depending on your situation. If you're an investment banker, spending a majority of your day playing video games is clearly low value. But if you're a video game tester, then playing video games would be high value.
The easiest way to determine if an activity is high value is to ask yourself this question, "Does this activity help me achieve my goals?" If the answer is no, it's a low value activity. (And if you don't have goals, then read the post on goals on the sidebar.)
And as always, with any advice on the net, remember - "Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own." - Bruce Lee
EDIT: Cool, thanks for the gold!
87GNX 10y ago
THIS this this this this THIS this.
RedbullF1 10y ago
Excellent post. Seems straight forward enough to know you should be engaging in high value activities, but it's not often the case unless you allot time like you do. Thanks for sharing.
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I fucking love this post.
sadly reading TRP easily becomes a low value activity, especially with all the clickbait on trp (at least I have a whole good day behind me at this poin)
anyway do high value activities out of the box, to find them just stop doing anything thats low value as you want to do it and be patient, your brain will work this one out within a few weeks.
MisterParty 10y ago
This is but one reason why I enjoy posting in TRP vs other subs. Everyone here does take this advice and doesn't waste all day on Reddit. You get commentary over a few days instead of hours.
One of my favorite quotes of all time is from Mr. Badass himself, Charlie Munger:
"The best way to get what you want is to deserve it."
It's not the easy route. It's not the advice you'll hear every day either. But put yourself in the shoes of someone who deserves that girl, deserves the promotion, deserves to have their own company, etc. You get the point. It implies you must work for it rather than just expect good things to fall in your lap. But I have found this to be absolutely true and a great mentality to have as the day goes on.
That all being said, here I am responding to your post within a half hour. Back to work. Thanks for the post.
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MisterParty 10y ago
Thanks for the tip. I'm going to try that now.
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robot-b 10y ago
My friends constantly complain that I am always with cute girls or always bring girls to parties whereas they get hardly none.
Then I ask them, do you approach girls on the street? no Do you go out after work to the local bar and try and meet girls? no Do you drag yourself out after work even though you can barely keep your eyes open and you just want to drag yourself home and sit in front of the PC? no Do you work out 3-4 times a week? no Do you spend every week talking to at least 10 girls? no
and these are the same guys I see posting on facebook daily, spending almost every weekend getting drunk with their high school buddies from 10 years ago
I brought this beautiful 8/10 Taiwanese girl down to a friend's beach shack over the summer in early January. My friend was already there and I rock up, introduce them and eventually she goes off. He looks at me with the same look I've seen a million times (how the fuck do you get these girls all the time).
'I met her on New Years at a party, talked to her, danced a bit, invited her to a club, dirty danced. We start making out and then whisper in her ear, 'Wanna go back to mine and fuck?'
'fuck off. I was at that party because I've been meeting people, making connections and got invited there.it was weeks of socialising etc that I did beforehand which put me in that position. I got to that outcome because I worked hard for it'.
Then, I find out that this guy didn't even go OUT on NYE and instead came to the beach cottage early. NYE I think has got me laid the last 4 years running, and its generally from out of nowhere (some girl will call me on the night, meet one at a party like this story etc). Gotta be in it to win it.
would like to note: I ask her if she has a BF (she was way too hot not to). She did, but 'its fine, he's not here'. Could feel her body quiver when i whispered that I wanted to fuck her.
Pdr_vzlr 10y ago
"The best way to get what you want is to deserve it." Great quote, is it yours?
GIGANTIC_NIGGER_DICK 10y ago
Reread the post, he says who it's from
CadeStaker 10y ago
This is incredibly true, not enough men embrace this mindset.
I went from playing games all day every day, oneitis, somewhat beta, skinny - to speaking 3 languages, gaining 40 pounds, getting a job followed with promotions, and fucking plates every week or two when I need a short break from studying/etc.
All you need to do...all you ever need to do is focus on yourself, and making yourself perfect. Fitness needs to be a top priority in a man's life, no excuses. You need to be well educated in a variety of practical things/things you take pleasure in. Become phenomenal in many aspects of your life, and never stop chiseling yourself.
Zran 10y ago
This gives me hope. Its a long hard road but the pay off will be worth it. I've already gone from being a lonely gamer to decently buff and studying while working part time in the field I want. Want to start learning another language once I finish my studies.
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Shimata 10y ago
Not the guy you asked. Assuming you want to try to learn it for free and on your own:
Try "duolingo", it's fairly easy to get into and it gives you a good base, assuming you really grind out every lesson before moving on to the next one.
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deangelomega 10y ago
all i want to do is bury myself in my room and sleep. I am not saying that this is bad advice at all. as a matter of fact, its probably some of the best advice i've read on here. but i just don't want to exist at this moment in time.
Movonnow 10y ago
I don't know why you are getting downvoted.
Rather, yes, I understand why but to me it's irrelevant.
It's perfectly OK to feel down from time to time. Especially after discovering TRP (to all the guys who downvoted him : remember anger and depression phase?)
When someone says "i just don't want to exist", one takes those words seriously and offers support and understanding.
So if u wanna talk a little bit more, shoot me a PM, it would be great. I personnaly went through a huge depression after finding TRP so I can totally relate to what you are saying.
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sweetleef 10y ago
Playing the woe-is-me victim and whining for attention and sympathy is not going to lift you out of whatever hole you're in.
Nobody is going to do it for you, and talking will do nothing.
The only way is to identify your goal, then find one thing that will get you closer to your goal, and do it right now. Don't talk about it or think about it, do it.
Then repeat.
deangelomega 10y ago
I don't say this for sympathy, i do not deserve it for the mistakes that i made. I am in shitville, because i put myself there and i don't know how to get out. If i do leave i will smell like shit for the rest of my life and will have to deal with it like a man. period.
since killing myself cannot be a goal, i don't know what TRP feels about suicide, but i highly doubt it's condoned. staying out of trouble is my main goal now, AT ALL COSTS! and the way i'm doing that is staying in my room.
mbillion 10y ago
I bury myself in my room all the time. There is nothing wrong with this so long as its not accompanied by self loathing and pity for oneself.
Just make sure to make it a luxury and not a lifestyle
deangelomega 10y ago
self loathing and pity is all that i have. my life is destroyed, all i can do is pick up the peices of the damage and hope it dosen't hurt anyone else.
It is my life, you do not want to be associated with Grendel. I am Grendel.
vengefully_yours 10y ago
Hey man, I hear ya. Sometimes its hard to get moving, to decide where you wanted go, and get motivated to go there. I wish I could stay in bed all day, but it's not possible. Your shit is yours, and it doesn't compare to anyone else's shit because you gotta do it. You probably have it worse than me, and to be honest this is a nightmare of my own making. Just this month, this is why I'm pissed and want to set fire to everything and go live under a bridge somewhere warm.
I have to make a 3500 mile road trip this week, wanted to leave tomorrow, but my truck is buried to the axles in my driveway. Something about 15 inches of rain over the last two weeks. It snowed this morning, and I froze my ass off last night because my home isn't done yet, and my fire went out, plus it was raining like a bitch again. My driveway is a quagmire, I am behind building because I've had six days without rain since August. Everything I own is wet, I didn't get my shop built so my fresh restorations are sitting out in the weather. The last one has a leaky windshield making it a rolling fishbowl instead of a GTO. The interior is moldy as fuck, and shit getting trashed because I don't have shelter for it. Big money to redo all the shit I did once.
Here is the kicker. I have to do damn near everything myself, by hand, including pulling stumps, cutting trees, leveling ground, moving dirt and gravel, building, keeping my vehicles running without a shop or even solid ground to work on. I have one person I can count on, and she isn't around all the time, like twice a week. Did I mention I am a fucked up veteran? They can't help me either, since I own my land and I'm not technically homeless. The snow is coming and I'm living without running water. A shower a week is all I get.
I'm in mad rebuilding monk mode, no time for meeting chicks. I have no choice but to get up with the sun and bust my ass all day, then I can come here and get some social time. I'm sick of being wet, cold, dirty, and when I can't light a campfire due to rain, I'm hungry. I don't want to go on, but I have no choice other than hypothermia in a month, or a bullet to the brainstem, so I continue.
deangelomega 10y ago
I am truly sorry that you are suffering at this point in time. veterans get alot of respect from me and it sucks that you have to go through this. my father is retired navy and i am very thankful for everthing he has done for this country. I thank you as well for your service for protecting my entitled ass. I truly hope that things get better for you.
EDIT: Also, thank you for your understanding, you could have told me to get my ass in gear and stop bitching, and have complete justification to do so. I am thankful that you are willing to see things from my perspective.
vengefully_yours 10y ago
I have motivation issues too, sometimes I will go a month without doing anything, waste all that beautiful weather because I can't get started. July was like that for me this year. I have PTSD and that can wipe out my will to do damn near everything. I have dysthymia as well, a persistent depression that doesn't respond to meds, it's common to people who were abused in childhood. They combine to make life difficult for me, it's like pulling a dogsled by myself everywhere I go. It makes me strong as fuck, but I can never get rid of the sled, I just learn to pull it faster. Believe me, at 45 years old having been pulling that sled since I was 8, I'm a fucking monster, but I can still get fucked over by my brain.
I live in your position so to speak, so it's easy to empathize. Sometimes a perspective from someone other than yourself gives you the solution to your problem. Finding a way to fix their problems presents you with the solution to yours. The thought behind it isn't "I have it do much worse than you do" it's more like "this is the shit I'm dealing with and how I try to make it work" one is constructive the other is looking for sympathy.
I couldn't talk to my parents or siblings about any of this because they would do the "worse than you have it" thing. They also do the "you deserved the beatings and they weren't that bad" thing too. So I've known most of my life I am on my own, and if I wanted to do something I had to figure it out then make it happen myself. I rarely do the poor me thing, but you can bet your ass I do the "fuck you for screwing up my life and making it harder for your own amusement" thing.
Hang in there and keep reminding yourself that the only one who can do it is you. Find something you want more than life itself and get working toward it. For me it was a real, honest to god, came from the factory, 242 vin GTO. That was my goal, now I have three of them, and a whole mess of other cars. Fast as fuck cars... What motivates you? What drives you? What is it that makes you want to put in the work to get the result of the work? I like cars, they aren't as fickle as women, are actually cheaper than wives by a wide margin, and I can enjoy them from buying a rusty heap, to rebuilding it, to driving it, racing it, breaking it, rebuilding it again.... You get the picture.
Find that thing you want most of all, and go get it. Do yourself a favor and don't make it women that you want, they are far too easy and not worth that much for the effort.
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nobody cares about the problems of men.
learn this, and stop flashing us your pussy.
NOBODY CARES if you don't care about yourself.
deangelomega 10y ago
I am aware.
I can see how showcasing my thoughts would have everyone think that im bitch. I ain't even mad
so what are you asking me to do? are you asking me to care about myself, since nobody else does? are you asking me to kill myself because i am wasting more worthy people's oxygen? are you asking me to never post again because i don't offer value?
reguardless, i understand raising your value as a man is a very imprortant aspect of a man. I know now that it is the exact reason why i will not ever be a successful man.
I dont think TRP understands this. I CANNOT RAISE MY FUCKING VALUE, some men can, i never will. every time i try i make a decsion that wipes all my value away from me.
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I was actually asking you to shut up because you don't bring any value here.
this sub is not a pity party. go to /r/depression if you want to find people who will listen to you complain about yourself and stroke your sad ego
alpha_n3rd 10y ago
Get the sand out of your vagina and go for a walk or something.
deangelomega 10y ago
That vagina in the sand comment is rich. I understand how you feel, my life is no ones concern, and i feel sorry for anyone who had to put up with me througout my life.
Right now in my life, i have made that wrong turn and am now in shitville. I do not think weight lifting and dreaming about my goals ia going to help me as of now or in my future.
"why even be here then?" The reason why i am here is to finally learn how discusting women are. Why sleep with them. I rather just buy a fleshlight or something. Much cleaner option as well.
[deleted] 10y ago
anger phase. it will pass.
you need to realize something: your life sucks because of you. not because of women. women act how they act because it's how they're made.
play the game, or drop out of the game, but at least learn the rules first so you can make an informed decision either way. good on you for being here.
p.s.... playing the game is a lot more fun... ;)
deangelomega 10y ago
I am well aware of this. this is my problem, as long as i exist on this fucking planet, i will always be the source of my problems. it is the reason why i have problem and it is the exact same reason why my problems will NEVER go away.
I understand. I just believe that my decision making abilities would make a woman's life worse than anyone else. In order to have a positive life, i have to start with fixing myself. This fact, is the reason why i will ultimately fail.
It looks fun from here, but all i can do is look.
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Frozen_Tundra 10y ago
Everyone fucks up and shit happens. Your life isn't defined on what happens to you, it is defined on how you react to what happens. You admit you made a wrong turn, you know it, so fix it. And if you don't know where to start, ask more.
Get your head on right and set them, don't dream. We see here a lot of get the career get in shape, get some high value hobbies. There are other things too. Goals can also be deciding what sort of man you want to be. One thing I can advise is being realistic about your goals. They will give you a sense of acheivement, boost self confidence and so on.
Definite anger phase. No doubt some are, but as has been alluded to above it isn't them, it is you. Spend some time reading the sidebar.
If money is tight and you can't afford it, there are even cheaper options. Park training, even find a couple of big milk jugs and fill them up with sand. Lots of options.
deangelomega 10y ago
There is some mistakes you JUST DON'T MAKE and i have made one of those mistakes. I get no sympathy because i will never deserve sympathy.
The only to fix it is to suffer and deal with being branded a monster. point blank period.
I had so many goals after college, i had a chance to complete them as well. My goal now is to stay out of everyone else's way. staying in my room is the best way i know how to do that for now.
Anger phase? You guys must have never been in the south. Women run around with diseases all the time around here. We also have so many SIMPs (Someone Idolizing Mediocre Pussy) around this mother fucker that women can do what ever they want around here. I'm more in the "scared" phase.
it's not about the money i am aware that i will never be financially well off; it's just not in the cards for me. Since money is the most important aspect of life, i will always struggle with it, and i am comming to terms with that fact.
it's about guilt, punishment, and life after punishment. if i am a monster for the rest of my life, working out will not change the fact that i am a monster. All i can do is stay out of everyone else's way, the less i exist, the less trouble i can get in.
oceanlifetime 10y ago
State your goals and people will probably give you good advice. If you are going to sit here and cry about your situation you might want to go see a therapist.
Women aren't disgusting, blue pillers only think that when they aren't playing the game right.
deangelomega 10y ago
The only advice that i would be given is most likely "good luck." And i would be very fortunate to get that type of advice from ANYONE. FUCK ADVICE!
I am WELL aware that no one wants to hear my problems unless they were getting paid $100 and hour per session, so i fucking understand.
I'm not a blue piller because i don't play this fucking game. I am a monk, because i am not ready do play this game. it's like starting a buisness, you can't start a buisness broke. you can't talk to women and be a fucking loser, and i have been one my entire life.
I know what blue pillers go through, i was rasied by one, so i spent my whole life doing this GOAL SETTING BULLSHIT! I got my degree, borrowed a shit load of money to do it, got nothing out of it but debt. I learned I.T., then got a criminal record of the worst kind. so now I.T. is out of the fucking picture.
in conclusion: either you are red pill, blue pill, or no pill, simple as that. people who claimed they changed from blue pill to red pill are fucking liars. THEY WERE ALREADY RED PILLS, they just grew their fucking balls back. i am a no pill, i will never play this fucking game, i am fucking done with women.
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deangelomega 10y ago
my future is a Pandora's Box with a BIG QUESTION MARK written on it. When it opens, and it eventually will, the results will not be in my favor.
I'm not getting the real thing anytime soon. I wouldn't deserve it even if i got it. Only real men get pussy. I can only envy the TRP community, you guys are REAL men. i can only look from a distance, that's my life.
alpha_n3rd 10y ago
That's the life you've chosen to live. Make a new choice.
IThoughtHeWasWithYou 10y ago
Good post.
Always be asking yourself, 'Am I producing, or am I consuming?'
And if I'm consuming, am I investing? E.g. Am I consuming something (knowledge, for example) to use for more effective production later.
AdmiralVonJackass 10y ago
Also the Manosphere can be a form of pointless escapism if you overindulge in it and take no action of your own.
let_terror_reign 10y ago
Quote I heard on a video, gets me pumped every single time.
' for What is each day but a series of conflicts between the right way, and the easy way? '.
supitsLoki 10y ago
I fucking love that video.
http://youtu.be/SuPLxQD4akQ
lethean1 10y ago
Powerlifting version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSHmJPLcxS8
let_terror_reign 10y ago
Gets the blood pumping like nothing else.
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Along this vein: The highest value activity you can engage in is pursuing your purpose.
Of course this means knowing your purpose first.
This can be difficult, but it must be done or you will go with the flow like a dead fish. When you go with the flow, you are invisible and worthless.
Once you have your mission, it becomes simple: Every activity you do is a step toward the realization of your purpose. By definition, that makes it a high value activity.
Note: High value to you is more important that high value to society. The reasons for that are self evident.
Sarcasticus 10y ago
Exactly. I called it "pursuing your goals" in my post, but it's the same thing. Once you've figured our what you want to achieve in your life, then it's much easier to figure our which tasks will be high value (i.e. move you towards your goals) and which are low value (i.e. do nothing to help you achieve your goals.)
Indeed. When it comes to your goals or your purpose, we must be selfish and truly go after the things you want, rather than the things others want for you.
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Bodegaz 10y ago
But I just wanna smoke weed, play video games, and have sex with 10s all day....
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ChadThunderdick 10y ago
Several years ago I bought a pullup bar (the kind that hangs in the doorframe) and a bunch of dumbells and used them daily (along with lots of pushups) and although I did notice some gains, the gains were very minor, I did not start noticing serious gains until I started going to the gym. If you want to get buff you will have to go to a real gym. Unless you got the space and money to set up a real gym at home.
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The easiest way to raise your value as a man is to not spend time and energy creating or reading long posts on reddit. Period.
foldpak111 10y ago
Even those four hours aren't free time. It's spent taking care of personal hygiene, stretching, and eating. Rough life.
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as someone who recently tried to put tabs on time, 4 hours accomplishes surprisingly little going in and outof a gym once is 4 hours and it yelds you like what? a brogram of muscle?
foldpak111 10y ago
What you fail to realize is that an hour of that time is dedicated to stretching and mobility drills. The actual workout is around two hours. If you were smart you would incorporate that in your workout, or else you might snap some shit up
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Talk about little roi, if you live you should be prepared for snapping shit up exponentially doubling every 8 years. and repairing it will only be possible in 2040-50 if humanity is motivated ( and it isn't...)
but walking over to a gym changing, warming up, lifting for 1 hour, showering, eating, recovering mentally etc is 4 hours of downtime per workout more or less for a 2 hour workout thats probably not 5 but more like 6 hours downtime, good for the highschool guys and the hardcore NEETs maybe....
foldpak111 10y ago
Or do it in your home. A shower should take you 60 seconds, swiveling down a thousand calorie protein shake should take about 10 minutes. Recover mentally? You did that during the cold shower and drinking the shake. You gotta step it up dude, you gotta learn multi tasking.
Spiderman48 10y ago
Isn't self care something that raises your value?
foldpak111 10y ago
True but school takes up 9 hours of my day, working out takes 3.. I like to get 8.5-9 hours of sleep. So I guess all day I'm raising my value. Rough life. Wouldn't wanna be anywhere else though
izomorph 10y ago
I would like to further elaborate on this and say that these activities need to help you be a better person, not just feel better. Take for example two polar opposite hobbies: playing lots of video games, vs volunteer fire rescue (and yes they can always use more volunteers).
Both take up lots of time and dedication and focus to get good. One, however, only grants you instant gratification. The other grants you better self image, confidence, integrity, physical and mental strength, etc., that will make you a better person. Being a better person will then grant you a better level of feeling good.
whinemoreplease 10y ago
On one hand yes, and on another hand no.
I think it boils down to having a high amount of passion which reflects the fact that you value the time you put into any activity. It's how you communicate that passion that will communicate how much you value 1) yourself, 2) your time, and 3) your personal choice in activities.
I don't think I'd ever agree that one activity is inherently higher value than another -- although the people that tend to one activity versus another may be. The tl;dr of this would be to be your own person and don't be anyone else's bitch, including society's.
Rougepellet 10y ago
Recently started using sony vegas pro to make montage parodies. Helps me learn the program very quickly. Takes up a lot of time though.
ImaFagLookatme 10y ago
What are some high value activities I can engage in at night?
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iamadoughnut 10y ago
Can you elaborate a bit on Ableton Push? It looks pretty cool, do you have one yourself?
Ties5o 10y ago
Reading, for one. Or learning- go to sites like Ted.com or Academy of Ideas and play a couple videos there.
t21spectre 10y ago
Academy of Ideas is pretty sweet. I frequently check out similar sites and YouTube channels, that one is new for me. Thanks man!
errorstarcraft 10y ago
Reading non fiction books is pretty good too.
myfluffyvalentine 10y ago
Lol at trying to improve.
Shattering your last delusions here: LMS Theory: Looks, Money, Status thats all there is folks. If you are a sub 7 in the looks division you are invisible to most women. And its the face that matters. Sick body game will get you an advantage in your league but you will not be able to date up because of it. Face and Heighy matters most. Women date up 2 points so the most you will be able to bang is a 5, and only if there isnt a 7+ male around. You re average looking or ugly better kill yourself. You can compensate Looks somewhat with M+S but JB and prime women 18-20 don't really care as much about M+S as you would like to believe. They want a tall giid looking white guy or in dome cases Urban Renaissance BBC guy. What M+S will get you is used up hags. And even if you get a hot prime woman you will have to live with the fact that you are genetic trash and the onky reason she is with you is because she is using you as her M+S cuck. But as soon as the handsome tall white fella comes along you are offed. Personality is just a halo effect on Looks for the most part. Age Pill: Life ends with 18. The thing coming close to true love is with a teenage JB girl. Either you take her virginity or its over. High School was your chance and after that its pretty much over. Every 18 year old COED has had 10 dicks by then and whenever you fuck her she will secretely reminisce about Chad Thundercock High School Football captain that fucked and dunped her when she was 15. Men dont age like fine wine. Thats bullshit. When youre 30 you re oldcell and a money cuck to women. You will never have a serious non cuck relationship with a neurotypical 18 year old. Imagine visiting her parents. Right its ridiculous. If you look really young and are 8+ you might get away with lying but youd have to be Dark Triad to pull this off, and the fact you are on this site means you are not.
S I m not saying to not enjoy activities that you like but they will not raise your value at all. Looks is all that matters. You could be a garbage man running around with a matress, if your 8+ you re set, if not nothing can help you. You re destined to get the leftovers.
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Transmigratory 10y ago
This is basically me in my final year of university... and they seem to love it.
Roneldo 10y ago
Some days I wish I was asexual. I wished that females did not have such a strong hold over my unconscious primal instincts that they can dominate my thoughts for hours on end. Its a tough life we males lead
sweetleef 10y ago
Your primal instincts also tell you to eat doritos until you're sick and then shoot heroin. If you can function without them, you can function in the absence of women too.
DownVoteGuru 10y ago
Jesus Christ man.
Start lifting.
When you get lonely work out
robot-b 10y ago
yeh but then you put it in them and bust a nut and you remember why being a man is great
BluepillProfessor 10y ago
WTF is this? Being a man is not great because you can bust a nut. If that were the only goal you should be a woman. They can bust nuts over and over again without letup.
Roneldo, I understand. It is a tough life we lead but it gets better. Learn the SMV chart.