I am currently spending a few relaxing weeks in a sunny Mediterranean coastal city catering primarily to American and European vacationers. Which gives me the opportunity of observing a large and pretty diverse sample set of the Western population, although I do see a good number of Eastern Europeans as well (more on that below). Although I don't go on vacation to engage in empirical sociology I couldn't help but observe a few rather disturbing trends, listed below in no particular order:
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Cameras-on-a-stick * this recent trend in facilitating selfies has become yet another tool in the pursuit of unmitigated narcissism. They are everywhere and women are the main culprits although a small number of men (among all age groups) use them as well. If you are that guy then please go online and learn about the countless unnamed men in history who died in trenches or blood soaked fields defending their country or their family. Then spend the remainder of that day beating yourself over the head with your damn camera stick before disposing it permanently. (sorry it had to be said)
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Selfies * Men are doing it as well but for women going on vacation pretty much is tantamount to being on an extended photo shoot. Quite often the procedure is quite elaborate in collaboration with at least one or two others who are in charge of picking the proper setting, help arrange the lighting, check make up, etc. Make no mistake - we guys are completely outclassed here and the three 'casual' shots that may wind up on her FB page have been carefully selected after snapping hundreds if not thousands selfies over the period of several days. The side aspect of this is that this also serves as an implicit ego boost, again amplifying over bloated egos and the perception of their SMV.
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Obesity * sure I'm not uncovering anything new here. As expected Americans in general are the worst offenders but it seems that British women in particular are hot on their trails (literally as it seems like someone left the gate open). Most of the specimen I had the great misfortune of laying eyes on were at least 20 to 30 pounds overweight, are wearing too much make up, and are dressed in clothes several sizes too small. Muffin tops are everywhere. The fatter they are the higher the likelihood that are traveling in herds. Hot girls usually are seen with their boyfriend/hubby or are accompanied by only one or two girlfriends (not sure if there are lesbian couple dynamics). Again, British women in particular take the cake here (pun intended) - I've come across a wide range of obnoxious large and in charge wildebeests who seem to think that they are God's gift to men. They are loud, annoying, and behave like slobs.
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Dominant/Leading Behavior Among Women * This actually inspired me to write this post as it stood out, and once I started looking for signs of this behavior I began to see it everywhere. Not only are women acting increasingly dominant - a large percentage of men now seem to be relegated to following them around like little pet dogs. I am seeing many women holding a map and/or a mobile phone whilst storming ahead of their blue pill floor-mats - not even wasting a glance back to see if he's tagging along. Men are rarely consulted on where to go or are being ignored. Quite a few times I have seen women snap the map out of their hubbies/boyfriend's hand. Conversations seem to revolve between the women in the group with the men standing by passively. If men are participating then it's mostly to supplicate or attempting to impress the girl. Men are the ones paying for meals/drinks about 90% of the time and quite often the women waits at the table (pecking at her mobile) while her male slave is procuring drinks and snacks. It's a truly sad state of affairs to see such a dramatic shift in social behavior as this is not something I observed let's say 10 or 20 years ago.
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Men Dating < Their SMV * Here it appears European men in particular are among the worst offenders. You may in your own life have come across the occasional 'odd couple' - in that the girl is smoking hot and you wonder what the hell she's doing with that 5'5'' bald creep in tennis shoes (my apologies in advance to all you small guys who happen to be bald and love tennis shoes). But I am noticing the inverse with increasing regularity now - athletic good looking tall and well dressed men who would be simply killing it in the U.S. are accompanies by women at least 2 or 3 notches below their own SMV. We are talking guys who may be accepted by model agencies pairing up with a 5 or 6. If she's not outright ugly then at minimum she's at least 15 pounds too heavy. I'm not saying they are dating ugly girls but clearly they could do a lot better if they had any game whatsoever. Make no mistake guys - despite the red pill it seems that fat acceptance is on the rise. The feministas are either succeeding in rendering obesity socially acceptable/desirable or men are settling lower out of sheer desperation. The thirst is real and I have seen guys who are far better looking than me (taller, more symmetrical faces, better dressed, bigger, etc.) with women I would not even touch with a ten foot pole being shitfaced.
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Men Dating > Their SMV: Rare and the only observances are EE men who are clearly alpha as fuck and seem to be treating their girls as if they're a 3 or 4. Those guys are fully in charge and are running the show - you won't see the average Russian/Ukranian dude holding their gal's purse whilst tagging behind her. Some of these guys are fat and look like they slept in their clothes but just from looking at them you can tell they are not used to taking any shit. Meaning if you make eye contact they look straight back at you with that little tilt of the head that suggests to not come looking for trouble and to STF away from their gal/family. You know - red blooded masculine men.
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Mobile Phone Immersion * While I see most older couples simply enjoy a few relaxing days in the sun, anyone born after ~1990 appears to have been equipped with a cerebral timer daemon compelling them to check their mobile device every other minute or so. The younger the person the more addictive the behavior. Attention span are short and I have seen young girls on guided tours who are constantly immersed in their mobile devices. Here they are in front of a gorgeous 16th century Gothic church and they're barely wasting a glance or are paying attention to the guide. It's not the norm fortunately but I'd say 30% to 40% are completely out of touch with the reality that surrounds them.
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Piercings And Tattoos Are Epidemic * It seems this trend goes in tandem with mobile phone immersion. Almost anyone in their twenties now dons some type of tattoo - it's evenly split between the sexes. As a matter of fact it's become extremely rare to come across a good looking women who has not branded her body one way or the other for posterity - and I'm not talking about earrings here. I think tattoo removal services are going to be a booming growth industry in the coming decade (or at least one would hope). As a side note - many Mediterranean men and young boys now don a tattoo on at least one of their shaved calves. I personally find it a bit effeminate but suspect many of you will disagree.
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Pseudo Bad Boys * Quite a number of you circulating now - especially among S. European guys it seems (less so among N. European men, probably due to more favorable employment statistics). This is related to tattoos and piercings in that a large number of men seem to feel compelled of acting out some kind of bad boy, biker, anarchist, or outlaw fantasy. Sorry guys - you're not fooling anyone. You may hit the gym and don a few tats but it's all an act. Very few of you guys have been in a fight since high school, do even know how to fight, and if you were challenged physically probably would run the other way. Most likely this is some attempt to attract women - clearly the word has gone out that bad boys get the girls and nice guys finish last (which may be a good start). Only problem is that I'm seeing way too many of them now - so the little additional edge it affords you will be gone soon. My personal advice - forget about tats, piercings, and baggy pants - the real bad boy wears it on the face (and approaches without giving a fuck). Contrast that with E. European men who still rarely don any tats (unless they are real - meaning they are connected) but act macho as hell. I'm not really impressed at all by a wanna-be-Eminem acting getting in my face as much as by a guy in a suit who looks me straight in the eyes and tells me in no certain terms what the deal is.
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Women Traveling In Groups / Lesbian couples * I am sure this has been a trend over the past few decades but I do see an increasing number of women traveling in groups - I'm also seeing more lesbian couples. What stands out here is that in almost all cases they seem to be completely immersed in their own network with little interaction with the outside world, especially men. They travel together, talk together, drink together, message each other, take photos of each other. They do seem to be aware of their surroundings but it only serves as a stage for their group's performance. Perhaps this goes hand in hand with an increase in lesbian relationships? Women have always been more accepting of both sexes and there is a lot more here than meets the eye, guys. In a world where they are constantly told that men are pigs who are not needed and are replaceable making the leap, if so genetically predisposed, is now almost procedural.
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Women's Interest In Men * Almost non-existent. I myself am a pretty good looking bloke but the streets here are literally teaming with handsome men and boys. Many of them are well dressed (especially the Europeans - sorry). A pretty good percentage of men seem to hit the gym regularly - they are in great shape and take care of themselves. And most of them are being completely ignored by the women around them. When I see a good looking fellow I often observe the women around him to gauge the level of interest. They don't look around and they don't care - unless you're clearly in the 9 - 10 range you are simply background noise to them - you don't exist. Breaching the bitch shield has become a basic skill if you want to have any opportunity whatsoever. You could be Brat Pitt rolling down the road in a Ferrari and I bet you most gals wouldn't even care or notice (alright - I'm exaggerating but you get the point). The SMV required to trigger passive attention (meaning girls noticing you without you taking action) is extremely high - again, unless you are a solid 9 or 10 you will have to work hard. A shy young man with an SMV at or below 7 may spend his entire youth with barely any female interaction.
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Hair Styles Among Women * It's good to see that no self respecting Mediterranean, EE, or Latin women below 40 cuts her hair off - period. I am seeing swaths of beautiful young girls with gorgeous manes down to their asses here. They really take care of themselves and they clearly are enjoying their femininity. This stands in stark contrast with American, British as well as German, Dutch, and Scandinavian women. At least half of them cut their hair short after they get married or before that. It's rather stunning to set foot here if you're used to a populace of women at home who cut their hair short for convenience or to make a political/social statement. Very rarely do I see 'chicken haircuts' among women younger than 40 except among NE and American women.
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Dress Codes Among Women * Best dressers are S. European, E. European, and Latin women - a lot of them can be seen in stylish dresses of all lengths and high heels - very feminine. Among N. European and Asian women it's very mixed depending on where they're from. American women dress like slobs compared with most European women - it's simply embarrassing. Sorry to harp on you Brits but most of your gals dress as if they receive fashion tips from a color blind Matt Lucas. A positive is the widespread use of yoga pants among Anglo-Saxon women - which given the right specimen is entertaining. I can usually tag a gal from 300 feet (100m) away - at minimum if she's European or American.
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Dress Codes Among Men * The winners here are S. European men - not a big surprise. Most of those guys know how to dress to impress even in hot weather. Very stylish casual clothing. Of course the Mediterranean has their share of white trash and you seem them mixed in. Most N. European guys are in typical holiday gear - short pants and t-shirts - most of them have basic fashion sense. American men - sigh - sorry guys but I rarely come across a yank here who doesn't dress like a bloody tourist. We are talking loud shirts, over-sized pants, baseball caps, tennis shoes. You will rarely to ever see a S. European guy with tennis shoes unless he just came out of the gym. They mostly wear stylish summer sandals or espadrilles, dress shirts with short sleeves, and stylish pants - no shorts unless it's over 33 Celsius (> 91 F). Learn from them!
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Men's Interest In Women * As you may have guessed this has not changed very much - guys are always ogling the gals. What I have not seen very much however are approaches. The chaps are clearly interested but women have become experts in applying a well constructed bitch shield which mainly consists of using the bitch face, group swarming, and especially mobile immersion. Back in the days you could use the book she was reading as a conversation starter. Now it seems like not a moment in a women's life is spent idle, when not entertained any available time is spent maintaining her virtual lifeline.
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Eastern Europeans * What can I say, the women immediately stand out as they are hot as hell. Mobile devices are now ubiquitous among EE women I am sorry to say. Quite notable however is that the women in almost all cases are a lot more attractive than their hubbies/boyfriends. It's the complete opposite of what I'm seeing among Western European couples. Quite often you will see a small chap who looks like money but would not raise a single eyelash in the U.S. with a drop dead gorgeous skinny gal that most of you guys would rate at least an 8 or 9.
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Passive Aggressive Behavior * Along with the ubiquity of tattoos and bad boy outfits/haircuts I also notice a lot more passive aggressive behavior. I actually don't see any real fights but what I'm noticing is some underlying frustration exhibited by young males. Which I find rather disturbing. Clearly there is an arms race at play between young men to gain access to some of the few available high quality women. I'm not saying that there aren't any - I actually am seeing quite a few hot babes. But few of them are available and the ones who are seem oblivious to any advances/attention or actively discourage it (see above). Which seems to frustrate anyone on the lookout for a bit of holiday fun. I'm not certain that this is a new phenomenon but I believe that passive aggression has now taken the place of traditional physical clashes between males. Clearly it's difficult being a man and kick some drunk idiot's butt if you're surrounded by legions of cameras connected to social media sites that may ruin your future career with incriminating evidence.
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In Summary * I'm sad to admit this but it seems clear to me that men are 'losing the war'. The average young women lives in a completely different world than you or I, one in which everything revolves around her ego and everything that surrounds here is designed to cater to her precious feelings. Men are expendable and are grasping for the few low hanging straws left for them (education, career, relationships, sex, social roles, etc.). I wouldn't go as far as label men 2nd class citizens but based on current observations the social role and value of men is systematically (or at least implicitly) being diminished.
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P.S.: I have nothing against tennis shoes and/or sneakers and actually call several pairs my own. No tennis shoes or white socks were injured in the production of this post.
IllimitableMan 8y ago
What you're seeing in the difference between eastern european and southern/northern european men is that masculinity is not demonised there. Being macho is more socially acceptable, and therefore, conducive to getting laid there. Machoness is also very much class based. The higher the social class, the less socially accepted acting like a cunt who doesn't give a fuck really is.
Acting/being macho in the UK (where I am) can help you situationally, but generally speaking, unless you work in a trade (plumbing, electrics etc) it won't help you network. It will turn people off to you. I guess it depends where you live as I'm in the south, in the North of the UK people are more macho. Here in the south the culture demands beta if you're going to even get paid. Macho guys will get kicked out of corporations for failing to uphold the status quo. That's why there's an undercurrent of anger and discontent with a lot of guys here. They are not free to be themselves, they're culturally imprisoned, neutered, emasculated. It's like a feminist dystopian nightmare here.
The most macho guys in the UK are guys who generally speaking can't afford a trip to a resort in Europe, eg: working class. Or they are middle class self-employed tradesmen who build houses and shit (and so could afford the trip.) You'll find most of your sample there were middle class pencil pushers, by merit of simply being able to afford to vacation. And that they compose more of the middle class than the few tradesmen we have (who, despite their income making them middle class, would largely identify as and behave as working class.)
Likewise the differences you observed between EE men being with women better looking than them and NE men being with women inferior looking than they are is due to cultural narcissism and gender ratio. In Ukraine and Russia there are more women than men. Not so in Western Europe. Men have more power in the dating markets there. Likewise in the west women are all brainwashed into thinking they are 10/10's and that men are collectively not worth shit. Single mothers are heroes and men are potential deadbeats. Such is the view of men when family collapses. In heavily Americanised cultures the implicit (but often, explicit) memetic is that men aren't worth shit and women are the very vital essence the universe is composed of.
In the west it's harder to date/get laid for the average guy because western women are not only fucked up and taught to hate men, but likewise have more distorted views of reality. Americanised culture's men still have needs, so they compete to be the best, hit the gyms, learn game, whatever. Whilst the women have to do nothing because they bluff through it with narcissism and a lower sex drive. So western women can just sit on their ass and date increasingly more attractive men without being worth a fuck absent their basic bitch vagina. Women rely on their pussy most in the west, because the power of the pussy is strongest in the west. This is likewise why you never bring an Eastern bitch to a Western country. Because she'll jump on the narcissism train and become a cunt.
In EE there are less job opportunities and more income insecurity for women, so the beta bux strategy is still more valid. Those cultures don't shit on masculinity so much, the men are more comfortable with masculinity and are likewise more likely to have had a dad/strong male role models in the family to pass on said masculinity. The women are less narcissistic (generally speaking) because the culture isn't as westernised/americanised. So those women don't go around thinking they are 10's, making them easier to attract/date. Narcissism in a woman is not attractive, it only works for men.
But what we have in the west is men who are under confident and women who are overconfident. The rules of attraction have not changed for feminism, and this dynamic leads to a really fucked up dating environment. The game is really fucking pervertedly inverted right now. In truth, to promote successful mating, it is men who must be overconfident and women who must be under confident. Hypergamy demands this. The west is experiencing the reverse of this.
Part of the reason we have to neg the shit out of women in the west to get any action is because their egos are so overblown that you need to bring them back to reality, no matter how temporarily, just to get them to see you as superior and therefore, attractive. That's why we have the emergence of Patrice O'Neal level game. You literally need balls of fucking steel absent godlike genetics in the west to get pussy. And the west is likewise far more hostile to masculinity than anywhere in Eastern Europe.
So growing up in the west to be badass is hard mode as the environment is less conducive to masculine values than the east. The west isn't completely neutered, but it is more so than anywhere else. You will still find badass guys here, but you will find a ton of pussies too. Why do you think TRP is a largely western phenomenon and didn't start in say, China? Likewise, non-westerners find it easier to clean up here because they already "got the right training" that guys missed out on here (and look to TRP for.) Most of the guys here by all comparison do not have a level of masculinity that's anywhere near as developed as EE men due to the influence of feminism. Men here are deprived of their masculinity and most men, IMO, have an absent sense of masculinity, if not an underdeveloped one.
There are a lot of dynamics behind your observations. Mostly the economic differences between northern/western Europe vs. the rest of Europe (which you alluded to briefly) as well as the amount of Americanisation each country has gone through in overinflating the feminine ego. The richer a country becomes and the less women need men to survive, the less women value men, the more entitled and unattractive they become, and the more the dating market skews in favour of women. Women are best kept gratuitous, when they are allowed too much power, they become tyrants, and the male majority misses out condemned to celibacy. If I had to fathom a guess, I'd say most western guys are in an involuntarily imposed state of celibacy. Shit's fucked up out here.
rp_valiant 8y ago
I'm afraid Northern England isn't that much better. Where I am there's a mix of modern young professionals and old-school northerners (mostly older generations), but the latter quotient is shrinking and generally seem more like they're out to prove something than just being masculine.
sir_wankalot_here 8y ago
If you directly work for a corporation. The reality is most corporations can no longer do the work in-house and are forced to subcontract.
The Snowden incident is a case in point. Despite his outward wimpy appearance he was heavily into martial arts. And he also got a job as a military subcontractor despite having no formal credentials.
Basically what it shows is corporations/military are no longer able to dorectly get qualified personnel because of politics. As a result they are forced to hire them in indirect ways.
ErasmusOrgasmus 8y ago
I'm also from the UK and every single part of this is spot on. It's an especially astute observation about the difficulty of being visibly and unashamedly masculine here whilst also having a high paying career that isn't a trade. Even guys like us who are actively trying to be more masculine find it difficult because while it's easy to do it at the gym or at football on a Saturday, there are certain areas of life here where it just isn't acceptable, like working in an office.
The working class guys who have working class jobs probably find it easier because they don't generally work in sensitive, corporate environments but the trade off is that they likely won't have the kind of lucrative, high end career that most of us here want. Obviously that's a generalisation but to that extent it is true.
erplaint 8y ago
Yet. Feminism is creeping into these areas as well, sadly. Can tell you from experience. Whether or not it will be as sucessful as it was in the west in destroying masculinity I can not say. Maybe the men of these areas have seen what happened in the west and are better prepared to deal with it. However it is difficult when it comes attached with propaganda campaigns financed by loads of cash coming from western feminist organizations who simply won resounding victories there and have all the finances in their grasp.
NextUserName 8y ago
As a western guy I would like to hear more specialized RedPill tips from you, because I think that the western european girls are pretty different from the US.... Besides negging immensely what else would you recommend?
ShazzMichaels 8y ago
How would one go about cultivating their full masculine potential? Any books or articles to point to?
IllimitableMan 8y ago
Start with these books for self-development:
http://illimitablemen.com/books-for-men/
But in terms of raw social masculinity, you learn the right attitude and how to hold your own from socialising with men comfortable in their dominance. Reading about that kind of shit isn't even 1% of experiencing it in terms of internalising the behaviour. We become what we mimic far quicker than we become what we read. This is why theory is typically accompanied by practice.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Brilliant response and I share a lot of your analysis. Didn't really want to delve into it too deep as the post was already too long. Thanks a lot for taking the time to spell it out.
IllimitableMan 8y ago
No worries. Always fun to read other men's observations and compare notes.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Love your work by the way - I would give a digit to be as literate and articulate.as you. Perhaps consider joining our rowdy crew of contributors over at redpillage? It would be an honor having you.
RedSugarPill 8y ago
Goes for the entire university system in the US too.
Men who unluckily chose a research career in modern culture must conform or be cast out. Even the old guys (tenured professors with hundreds of publications) have to put up with non sequitur feminazi bullshit from young faculty cunts when they are presenting their research--even when the research has not a fucking thing to do with gender--but somehow it turns into a gender issue. It drives me insane.
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RedSugarPill 8y ago
Academic feminists are ruthless and cunning, but thanks to TRP, after almost 2 decades of depression and confusion, I have a better understanding of their tactics. They are not strong, just cunning. Since they are not smart, they have to manipulate, and their only power is in trying to get you to lose frame and say or do something that will get you ostracized. Every man should know this, a priori, as he enters his education and professional career. I wish I knew when I reached adulthood, but it doesn't naturally occur to an honest man that the world is full of dishonest people.
epixs 8y ago
The bit you stated about how by effect men having to become more and more masculine as well as being able to neg women is something that highly resonates with my own experiences.
However does that mean there will be even higher polarities between "manly" men and "pussified" men in the west? Because that would only add to the amount that ones has to develop themselves to become more masculine-not saying that is a bad thing...just wondering. Eventually what you would have is literally no respect for any man, even if they would be considered a honorable/respectable man in any other place.
This also endorses the sayings repeated here many times, "Women never care about the man in progress, only the final result."
IllimitableMan 8y ago
This is what I'm seeing. Personally, I strive for balance, because it is my preference, but the west demands extremism: either total supplication, or complete cuntishness. I'm not too fond of being a complete cunt 24/7, I like showing people common decency and being personable. As such one is civil (especially with women) at their own peril. One must be able to switch from a personable guy to one who will fuck up the person mistaking kindness for weakness at a second's notice if they are to get away with toeing-a-line so to speak. It's a peace through power philosophy.
To be honest, I think we're already there. At least where I am.
mooch10 8y ago
This is something I learned working in guest services at a major hotel. You get your average entitled guest, and that's fine, but you have to pull the "asshole trigger" without hesitation when confronted with tyrannical cunts. The amount of barbarism implicit in their demeanor has caused me to be nearly in humane in my prompt dismissal of their concerns. The funny thing is, it's not so much an issue with what they want, but how little regard they have for traditional politeness. It's as if they disregard their own humanity and shit on their own value. But it doesn't bother them. It's mind-boggling.
IllimitableMan 8y ago
You can't reason with the unreasonable, be it animals or manic narcissists. So you shouldn't. All they understand is fear, ridicule and violence.
epixs 8y ago
Thanks for the clarification . I agree having to turn on those that see your politeness or civil kindness as weakness and try to take advantage gets annoying , but has to be done.
Pharmakoza 8y ago
This is where the preachers of the day always lose me. Tattoos are in no way disturbing. You're showing your conservative emotional tendencies.
fatalclaw 8y ago
As EE guy, who lived 20 years next to the sea i agree, british women are considered the least attractive, their idea of fun time is getting shit faced. Everyone approaches here, but with almost no results. The sad part is we are considered extremely low smv. Here you can get laid by just being from a western country with the worst game possible. Unless you are top5% as EE you dont stand a chance! If you are american, come to sunny beach, Bulgaria. Talk about your life in NY or California, fuck hot pussy.
darkrood 8y ago
Do you have an accent? Go to any bar in US, don't be crazy fat and awkward. You can wipe floors.
Edit: sorry, just went on trip with Serbian coworker in Vegas. Still got stringed by fat 35 yr old women, got stringed along by Azn woman, and finally got sex from a green hair hair dresser from Tao. The last girl is a 6.5-7, but refuse to give him bj, and lie there and ask him to do all the work.
Guess it's not that easy :( (le sigh)
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Damn it - you guys must really hate our guts... but then again, consider what we have to deal with the rest of the year and you may give us a pass.
fatalclaw 8y ago
Believe me i dont! I used to do, but then i found TRP.
HAMMURABl 8y ago
I recently travelled through East- and Southeast-Asia. At all airports, especially airports close to popular travel locations, I noticed that there were significantly more young women travelling than young men.
Breaking it down, the statistics in the (white, 18-35) bracket was roughly as follows (mixed groups added in couples section):
25 % couples travelling together
40 % women travelling in women-only groups (typical group-size: 2-3)
20 % men travelling in men-only groups (typical group-size: 2)
5 % men travelling alone
Why are so much more young women travelling than young men? Because women spend all money they have. There is no long-term planning here. Men tend to be more thrifty with their money, and seem to have a significantly higher savings-rate than women. Thus they can not simply afford to go on far-away vacations where they spend 2 months of salary. This narrative also fits the experience within my social circle, where many women enter their late-twenties with close to zero savings. My guess is that these women do (unconsciously) always assume that a 30 y/o man will pop up, who lives his life frugally and managed to save up a decent nest-egg.
Also: Jesus Christ, American and Aussie women: 7s and 8s with attitudes I have yet to see in Europe. Don't know how you manage to deal with them.
razorwan 8y ago
My cousin, who recently began earning as a doctor in the 300k+ figures, is suddenly traveling all over the globe even with med school debts because his yuppy wife is making him do this. Go figure, the wife's mother is a divorcee herself, and the wife makes my cousin cover all travel expenses for her mother as well.
As always, being wise with your money is another aspect of a healthy life. Women want to capitalize on their youth and your money as much as possible before their time runs out. Hold on to these things dearly or you'll become another victim of yuppyhood.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
You only got it half right - women also save money all year by getting free drinks, lunches, dinners, favors, rent paid, etc. The money they don't blow on shoes and crap they can afford to spend on exotic holidays (a.k.a. photo ops to raise social value and lure in more suckers, then repeat the cycle).
mugatucrazypills 8y ago
you could learn from these women, cut your expenses(stop wasting money trying to buy attention or impress your neighbour) and spend your money on travel as a single guy .. look at the numbers on average you'll be 2-5x to one outnumbering the uncoupled fem travelers. More importantly you'll be enhancing yourself with travel rather than sitting at home wasting money on "shit" to put in yout house
Dr_HoaxArthurWilmoth 8y ago
I enjoyed the write-up and agree with many of the observations, but this one, Jesus Christ.
No fucking shorts unless over 91 Degrees. Do you realize how hot 91 actually is? If you live in the desert, or the beach in North America, you are wearing shorts 68 degrees or over.
I know when I hit the beach in Mexico I could give zero fucks about what some fag thinks about my T-shirt, shorts and sneakers.
oldredder 8y ago
Anything over 22 C is shorts weather. Period
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
I hear you mate - but Mediterranean men seem to be pretty conservative dressers. Unless it's over 30 Celsius (85 F) you will see them wear long jeans and I have seen many run around with suits even - while it's like 80% humidity. It's nuts!
I think it's their way of visually differentiating themselves from the droves of Northern barbarians invading their turf every summer. If you run around in flip flops, Hawaii shirts, and shorts then you're immediately tagged as a tourist (and thus outsider). If you ever have tried to open a Mediterranean chick on vacation then you may know that they seem to be tough nuts to crack. Especially Italian and Spanish chicks are rough wenches to open - not impossible but you have to be know the language a little, especially in Spain. My personal experience - perhaps you guys have better luck.
NidStyles 8y ago
It's a disease in the western world. Can thank the providers of Marxism and their cohorts for killing us off.
mooseman44 8y ago
A good post but do you think you could learn the difference between women and woman? Let me help you: one WOMAN, two WOMEN.
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notrustled 8y ago
This is the kind of shit I'm coming here for. You listed almost all the things that make me chuckle/cringe whenever I go out. The only thing I missed were those tumblr bitches with blue/pink/whatever colored hair, preferably with some fucked up haircut and wearing those stupid backpacks.
Once I saw some of these in a group. They were all over 25 (or even 30) and well over 190 lbs each. All of them had all these things I listed. Hilarious.
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redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Agreeing with every fucking word you just said. Never liked kids myself but that's probably a personal failing. Kept me out of a boatloads of problems though - and that's all I'm going to say ;-)
waynebradysworld 8y ago
I feel your sentiment.. However I think you are off base with your idea that you are too "intelligent" to be alpha.
Sending off an intimidating vibe, having a big hard body and/or being attractive, outfoxing others and having a razor sharp wit... aren't inversely related to smarts.
I can guarantee that some of the big studs you write off as dumb or shallow are as mentally astute as you, perhaps even more so. You are making an excuse for beta frame. Fuck that shit, the smartest person can learn behavior and build whatever he truly aspires to and feels deep down he deserves.
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waynebradysworld 8y ago
"The world was made for those not gifted with the curse of self awareness" -Oscar Wilde
Until you have moved past your own insecurities, what Oscar says is true. When you grow past that, intelligence is no longer a hindrance socially, but allows you to progress farther than others. Its a long road though.
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waynebradysworld 8y ago
If you don't think you have room to grow, why are you here?
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waynebradysworld 8y ago
I heard this definition of hell: "The last day you have on earth, the person you became will meet the person you could have become".Â
The thing is, I think this is what goes through your head when you're on your deathbed. It makes you fight for your beliefs. If you're actively going out and taking action to improve things, pushing through the pain, sticking to it, gaining straight, developing discipline, then you're a warrior. We might not live in a society that's a true warrior culture, but our spirits still need it, it's a part of our evolution, we're spiritual warriors.
It will never end. There's no finish line, you're always going to be either improving or in a downward spiral. Fight until you meet yourself in hell.
So, I will rephrase my question. Are you striving to become a harder, stronger, better version of yourself? Or have you decided that since you are just so smart, that doesn't matter in your life?
BlueFreedom420 8y ago
Women's Interest In Men
This is Europe. Where the government is the man. Why should a woman even look for a man? She can have an out of wedlock baby and the massive welfare state to take care of her. Women don't really have a libido, their sexual attraction is based purely on someone to validate or worship or give them a baby so they can be validated and worshiped.
lala_xyyz 8y ago
The lack of inherent conflict between men and women is an abnormality in evolutionary terms. Evolution progresses based on a conflict. "War is good for the economy" could be paraphrased as "Gender conflict is good for the family". Once that conflict is eliminated, the evolutionary dialectic is lost and such abnormality is considered a dead end which is resolved through self-willing but unconscious termination. Meaning: less reproduction. Chicks which ignore apparently high SMV men will still dig jocks who don't give a shit about them - see the conflict there which creates attraction.
The same happens in society (the first Matrix was an Utopia, which resulted in a failure). When there is no conflict such society grows extinct, or the conflict is produced through a combination of overpopulation at the periphery and immigration, which exerts stress on limited natural resources or creates an ideological conflict. Old-school marriage codified this imbalance in law which resulted in permanent progress for the entire society, by tapping into beta energy and female nurturing instincts. We can also go meta: the tendency itself between the forced equality in economics, human rights etc. through communism, feminism etc. vs. the evolutionary imperative (the weak shall perish) is itself an evolutionary algorithm. One thing is certain - whichever social order comes on top, it will come at a great expense of the order. Half of guys that ever existed didn't reproduce, and that number will go a whole lotta higher.
kaiserpuss 8y ago
I am new here and this is confusing me, what the fuck do selfie sticks have to do with the trenches?
curemode 8y ago
So glad I'm married and no longer have to despair over this superficial, rat race bullshit.
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redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Dang - if they were naked selfies I'd be all over it. Quick, more camera sticks!!!
sardinemanR 8y ago
Women are as interested in "fit" young poor men about as much as men are interested in "well educated high earning" fat old women.
To women, 80% of men are just ugly. And the remaining 20%? Probably most of them are just tolerable.
But throw out your job title or give off the the impression of power and status, and yes wealth is a major component of that, and women are all over that guy and get wet just being near him. Those 5'5 short bald dudes are probably high status. Complaining about that is the male equivalent of hamstering.
AF and BB gets way overplayed on here, because again its male hamstering. The power brokers of this world are mostly fat and ugly men, and they are sleeping with much higher quality women that most men on here just jack off to and don't have a shot in hell of ever approaching, no matter how much they lift and how often they can say 'I'm 6'2 alpha."
Don't complain about it. Instead improve your status and don't worry about it. When you are high status yourself you don't have to bitch and whine about other dudes pulling hotter tail than you. Because you are one of the guys slaying and it just doesn't get on your radar.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
That is pure gold - exactly. With ~50% youth employment across the Mediterranean the coasts are chock full of good looking athletic but broke young men. Especially the young girls don't even bat their eyes from what I've seen. So yeah, get your ass into shape and all, but it's not what's going to land you the poon. Investment in a $1000 suit and a $5000 watch may do the trick.
ChanThunderwang 8y ago
The thing is that women can not tell the difference why a man gives her tingles.
If she is 20 yo and dates "AF", she really thinks that this guy is hot.
If she is 30 yo and dates "BB", she really thinks that this guy is hot.
Of course we can tell why she is attracted to which guy. But a woman does not think this way. She just sees a mediocre older guy in a suit and thinks "What a man!!!".
drallcom3 8y ago
I do live in a big sunny Mediterranean coastal city (and there next to a well known building), catering to Western and surprisingly Chinese tourists. Most of what you write is true and all of those people are tourists or immigrants.
There's really a shitload of selfies, stick and cameras to see.
Me gusta.
A lot of Mediterranean men dress badly. The only ones who stand out the the Italians.
Money. Those EE women are mostly Romanians and they're the worst gold diggers ever.
Eh, it's like everywhere else. Woman lose too by not finding a partner (and there are no generous social benefits in tihs country here for being a single mother).
thewalex 8y ago
Before coming to the Red Pill I didn't understand this. I liked to go places and take photos as souvenirs (rather than purchasing cheap crap from shops). But I didn't care to be in the photos that I took. In fact, I preferred not to be in the photos at all. The photos are for me to remember about the awesome places I got a chance to visit, not displaying proof to everyone in person or on social media that I was physically at all those locations.
But it 100% makes sense that women want the attention and social proof of being in the picture. So silly and superficial. But really, how would Ansel Adams' photographs of Yosemite be in any way improved with him making silly poses or faces in the forefront? How many timeless photos do you know of that included the photographer?
drallcom3 8y ago
Selfies are a good tool for RP men to display status. Once or twice post a photo on Facebook with some women or from an exotic location.
thewalex 8y ago
That makes sense. Just as long as we're not trying to match those selfie girls taking tens or hundreds of duplicates of each pose, hoping for the perfect selfie, haha! Or like you said, take a few for Facebook with yourself in them and the rest just for your own keepsake.
redadactyl 8y ago
Bash me all you want but I'm convinced my gopro on a selfie stick has gotten me more pussy than any car/boat I've ever owned. Beat them at their own game and become someone who they think they can draw value from. My "experimental filmmaking" are really just me filming awesome stuff I do with beautiful people and editing in some music. I think the difference is that we genuinely enjoy doing the things we do while the girls are slaves to this need for social proof and just follow it relentlessly.
thewalex 8y ago
No ill will intended! I think the GoPro is a completely different beast from a standard still photography camera or DSLR. It is 100% intended for recording video and experiences that no traditional camera could withstand and as such, many extreme sports have adopted it. Videoing yourself in the moment doing really cool shit is the intended function of a GoPro, and you should absolutely use it for every advantage you can!
You're ahead of the curve by owning a GoPro in the first place, and if you're utilizing it to its full potential, that's even better!
I intended to mean if I was going to frame a photo from my travels to hang on my wall for my own enjoyment, I'd rather hang up a photo were I wasn't in the foreground with my forearm or a selfie stick obstructing the view. Something like this where I theoretically wouldn't need to be in the photo to remind myself that I was present to take it.
tl;dr If your goal is to record awesome stuff and get pussy, the GoPro is a good way to document it!
RedPillDad 8y ago
Losing the war? The men who choose the wrong battlefield get hammered down. RP savvy aside, young women have the advantage with sex, men have the upper hand with success.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Used to be that way but courtesy of female HR departments and blue pill corporate rules men are slipping on that end as well.
fritopiefritolay 8y ago
Then build your own business and make sure you keep away the gossipy HR hens away.
scarletspider3 8y ago
It's sad but you are right that men are so under valued in society these days. The only way for a man to have anything that even resembles a healthy relationship with a woman is to go way below his SMV.
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Yes, Eastern European men are kicking ass. Lately I'm traveling a lot (I'm Croatian living in Germany) and I noticed these things as well.
Men are on the downslope. In best cases they are acting like some saturday night bad boy. Self made, confident men with free spirit are hard to find. That's why I don't have many friends. I just can't take the shit. My favorite nights becomed ones where I go out alone, kill some whisky, and eventually pump and dump some whore. That's better than listening losers lamenting about their sorry lifes.
Women are women. It's definitely true about ignoring upper scale SMV men. I'm not even sure what's happening. A lot of women acts as they are not interested in man at all. Usually they act spoiled and bratty. However I consider them women as much as I consider nice guys men. That is, I don't.
Luckily I'm visiting Eastern Europe very often and I have some high quality plates here and friends also . But plates here are short lived, because chicks here understand their value and they want relationship quickly. No way you can fuck good woman here without her trying to lock you.
Which I respect, I respect women with self respect way more then American or Western Europe whores, which you can pump and dump at a short notice and she really doesn't care..
chances_are_ur_a_fag 8y ago
agree with you my slav bro, the western whores don't care because they're so used to being treated like that
ss_camaro 8y ago
Necessity is the mother of invention. When women have resources it's the 'ol fish n' bicycle routine. SMV is a male-libido-centric concept that doesn't adequately describe their tingle matrix which snakes around the brass poles of luxury, self-absorption, power, status and sadomasochism.
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One thing, I noticed, anywhere in the world, even with chicks which are ignoring high SMV man.
They never, ever ignore guy who's willing to use them as fucktoys with absolutely no strings attached. They are looking for social predator who will rail them all night long.
That's solution for ant chick who's ignoring everybody. As they gain more power, this lust is more obvious. They don't need man for anything else now.
IllimitableMan 8y ago
The only person who can make a powerful woman feel like a woman is a hyper-masculinised guy or a DT alpha. Normal men just don't cut it anymore. It's kind of like porn where a guy watched normal shit for so long that now he can only watched more fucked up shit. Same concept, but with female attraction. As power is not only an aphrodisiac, but the determining factor in whether an aspect of a man (eg: money, humour, genetics) is attractive to a woman. If those traits cannot convey power, they cannot attract. Powerful women need even more powerful men (read: psychopaths, social predators, gangsters, whatever) to activate their attraction cues. Fucked up times we're in.
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I'd say just honest times we're in. I don't think that women changed since Eva. Maybe they deploy different tactics here and there, but basically they are probably the same.
However it works for me. Rude, Machiavellian, cold behavior in order to rail her is easier for me since I understood that that is what they want.
Sadly, or not, I still have a need to have that woman whom I can open my heart to, show my personality, all of my colors. You know, to connect.
And everytime I start to think about it, I internally bitch slap myself for dreaming of something that isn't. For romantic like me reality is harder to grasp.
But reality is as it is. Reality is that she just wants some good old rough fuck.
I found other wayscto express my emotions. Through acts, through things I like or do. Through business, hobies, training, or traveling. Through reading good books of smarter man, connecting with them.
But hell, not with woman. We're modern monkeys. Either you give her resources, either you fuck her. I choose to be the one who fucks her.
IllimitableMan 8y ago
They haven't changed. But the environment has. They had less economic power then, which made things more equitable. Ironically, in the "bid for equality" things have become more inequitable, as more and more men are considered less eligible by merit of women having relatively higher economic power. Take today's women, sack them all, get rid of the welfare state and watch how quickly every man with a job gets laid. It's about power differential. Modern women may like psychopaths just as much as say women a century ago, but because average men had more power, they were attractive too. Now, they're not.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Sounds like time well spent :-)
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Usually it is.
I moved to Germany and I'm living in a Metropolitan city where it's hard to meet anybody twice. There is something great in going alone, truly not giving a fuck about anything. Sitting on a bar, killing Jack or Vodka. That's usually the time when I kill my blue emotions, and I act raw, naturally.
I have few good pals but we rarely see each other due to dynamic careers, lot of traveling etc.
Bar is a great place to talk to chicks when you are alone, every minute there is a bimbo ordering Tequila.
Approach that always work is asking her "what kind of cocktail is this" when it's obviously short drink, said with a big shit eating grin.
My accent and muscles are doing the job, I just have to tease a litlle bit and escalate quickly.
This is my favorite way of hooking up because it's 10 to 15 minutes in or out. You get to know results quickly.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
I wanted to add that EE may not be the place to get laid but if you speak the language do yourself a favor and find your future wife there. Do NOT marry a German woman - they can be nice/fun but she will annoy the fuck out of you. Don't ask me how I know but I know.
bluedrygrass 8y ago
"Dominant/Leading Behavior Among Women * This actually inspired me to write this post as it stood out, and once I started looking for signs of this behavior I began to see it everywhere. Not only are women acting increasingly dominant - a large percentage of men now seem to be relegated to following them around like little pet dogs. I am seeing many women holding a map and/or a mobile phone whilst storming ahead of their blue pill floor-mats - not even wasting a glance back to see if he's tagging along. Men are rarely consulted on where to go or are being ignored. Quite a few times I have seen women snap the map out of their hubbies/boyfriend's hand. Conversations seem to revolve between the women in the group with the men standing by passively. If men are participating then it's mostly to supplicate or attempting to impress the girl. Men are the ones paying for meals/drinks about 90% of the time and quite often the women waits at the table (pecking at her mobile) while her male slave is procuring drinks and snacks. It's a truly sad state of affairs to see such a dramatic shift in social behavior as this is not something I observed let's say 10 or 20 years ago."
Disgusting. Absolutely repulsive, and yes it's noticeable anywhere.
Red_August 8y ago
Reminds me of this picture posted here not so long ago of some buttergolem "leading the way". We all know that what we're all really seeing here are the first rumblings of an extinction event.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
That's a relief - I thought I may just have the luck of the draw seeing this...
aherne18 8y ago
I am also pretty good looking (for Romanian standards, at least) and was used to lots of female attention before the age of social media. Now this opened a whole range of possibilities for them to concentrate only on top 5%, so I'm running dry: I must always DO something...
But anyway, I've been in Seychelles a couple of months ago and noticed the huge difference between European tourists, Indians and local blacks. Among W European tourists, I saw a slightly different range: generally newlyweds, followed by old couples.
Newlyweds: wife always leads, man is always "in charge" of paying (same shit as OP noticed). Wife as well as man are sucked of life: none looks in love (especially women), none looks happy (especially women), there is no sexual tension. Once in a while man timidly puts his hands on his wife's shoulders while his wife rarely reciprocates but more often than not simply looks absent the other way or scanning for AM. This trip was the "price" they had to pay to leave their fuck buddies at home and secure a foothold in their beta husbands' pockets...
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
THIS - damn it - I meant to actually make that a bullet point. This almost has become the norm and only today did I see a Latin couple where the girl was all over her pretty hot looking Latin lover. But forget about that when it comes to European or American couples - it's the guys who are constantly seeking physical attention. The girls couldn't care any less and simply enjoy their power status and the attention. It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
mrpCamper 8y ago
This is so fucking true. I'm RP and married 15 years and American. and before RP I was always touching the wife and she never reciprocated except for holding my hand. Now, that I'm acting more RP, it's different. Not a ton but there is actually some touching by h er. Lingering hand on shoulder etc. It's really painful to see your wife treating you better the more you act like a dick.
triperfecta 8y ago
Fucking. Selfie. Sticks.
It used to be that you'd take a picture of a beautiful / interesting thing for it's inherent value. Now it has no value unless one can prove one's presence via inserting oneself. Attention used to be focussed outward, now it's focussed, not inward, but AT oneself.
Bwhitty23 8y ago
You act as if you can't do both. You can take a lot of pictures of that beautiful mountain and take a few pictures of you and your friend(s), partner(s), and family member(s). This isn't black and white as a few of you would believe. Both are used for remembering your time at a place. Because you are the subject in a few doesn't mean introspection is lost and you've become vain and narcissistic.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Sophism is alive and well it seems. You clearly didn't get the point and if you haven't by now then I won't try to stick your nose into it.
Bwhitty23 8y ago
See you linked this behavior to all people do this and them put it on social media for validation. You forget that people, like me and I would assume you too, take pictures for yourself and travel partners, friends, etc. I haven't posted a single photo from my adventures in social media so I don't fit into your generalizations. Also, seriously bringing out that bullshit about soldiers. Get off it man.
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Ninebythreeinch 8y ago
My point is you have no taste. Just like most people from former communist states.
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All of these things have one thing in common.
Jews are pushing it.
Myrpl 8y ago
I can confirm your observation as a Greek. I tend to notice hot guys who clearly hit the gym and got the alpha package dating chubby chicks and super average girls who not only tell them what to do while they move around - they also scold them! One of my theories is that they're stuck with them either because they don't have game or because they believe that somehow "since she's average she won't slut it up".
My blood is boiling just from remembering some instances.
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I think they just have no game. I'm a skinny, average height dude and I still get decent girls in Greece (nobody chubby, 6/10 to 8/10).
My Eastern European homecountry does have more to offer in the looks department, and there are much fewer "curvy" girls here (god I roll my eyes every time I see that word). But unfortunately they are all inexperienced at this age (18-23), many even virgins, which puts me off. They're like children, too scared and inapt. Sex is boring. I prefer someone who's fucked around a bit.
You all complain about sluts in the U.S. but the other side has its cons too.
aherne18 8y ago
I believed the same:) I once "dated" an Arabian girl (quite beautiful by the way) for some time and thought she could not be "dating" other men behind my back because she was Arab, Muslim, and kinda chubby.
mugatucrazypills 8y ago
been there done that AHERN, maybe it was the same lady ?
islam is as islam does aherne, muslim girls will turn that morality on and off like a light switch.
the islamic boys are on to something, they'll run through a bunch of your white chicks looking for "exotic dangerous terror tingle fuckcapaides" then turn on the islam when it comes time to eject.
"But I'm a super openminded and liberal muztron !" (take out the lube)
by the weekend:
"oh sorry dad and mom just won't accept you and I have to be true to my culture to go marry Aisha, thanks for the anal memories !"
aherne18 8y ago
Unlikely for them being the same, except in that they were both a bunch of whores:)
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redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Depends on where you are. In Spain the leftarts have completely taken over and all it takes for a woman to land her husband/boyfriend in jail and get a restraining order is to pick up the phone. If you speak Spanish read EL VARÓN CASTRADO: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_b7mCJqkDOHeVpPR3NUdXJFX0U/view?pli=1
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pms777 8y ago
Try doing that to a local girl and you will find yourself hospitalized. Src: Seen it happen many many times.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
White knights are legion - plus you'll most likely live out the rest of your vacation in a holding cell.
pms777 8y ago
No white knight bs here. You don't come to another country and disrespect like that without consequences.
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redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Sorry I had to stop reading there.
cagethepepper 8y ago
I've been living in Spain for the last year and what you say sounds mostly true and accurate.
...an that's ok. MGTOW is only going to grow.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Spanish women have turned into feminazi beasts - my condolences.
cagethepepper 8y ago
They're not THAT bad. At least most of them look relatively feminine and more elegant than northern chicks, but committing to them is a death sentence.
Limekill 8y ago
Fuck, you see this in Sydney ALL the time. Every guy who I look at and think wow, he looks good (no homo), he is with a good awful looking woman. And I am like... "damn, really?"
There are now no standards. Men are not just pussy whipped they are pussy dominated...
Our forefathers who died in the great wars would be turning in their graves. And I don't make that statement lightly.
thefisherman1961 8y ago
97% of American men look like they get all of their clothes from the clearance section at Wal-Mart.
Squeezymypenisy 8y ago
Redpillage? Can you send me a pm? Interesting points. Personally I have found latin men and southern european men to be full of betas and the macho crap just makes it worse. They hide behind it, but are still pussies underneath and place too much importance on what women think of them.
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DodgedAFew 8y ago
I don't see the connection. Is self-sacrifice RP?
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
I know you're trying to be sarcastic but this is actually a good question. I guess it depends on the sacrifice and the person. Not a debate befitting of this thread. But my point was that the character of the average contemporary has shifted from sacrifice and personal accomplishment toward self entitlement and narcissism.
GrandmasterHurricane 8y ago
If you want to wear gladiator sandals with your cute booty shorts, that's on you dude. I'm not about to wear open toe sandals in the name of fashion. If trends is where you learn how to dress then that's you, I'll stick to wearing sneakers.
epixs 8y ago
Was at multiple airports due to flying for some school reasons.
-I noticed most guys walking behind their women carrying all the shit including diaper bags and baby shit.
-Women heavily overweight and still pigging out with the food.
-Lots of manlets and faggot just mean muggin people but not really doing anything
-When starting a conversation with some people, they really had no idea how to react. As if talking to someone in the waiting lounge at an airport terminal is super taboo now.
-Many women with short hair and ugly haircuts
-To many fat women
-Being in a tailored well fit suit grabs attention, I learned this firsthand lol.
SOwED 8y ago
If they were European airports, it makes sense that people don't know how to react when you start a conversation with them. In most European countries, strangers don't make small talk like they do in the US.
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Avedas 8y ago
Did you find any other tangible benefit? I'm thinking about wearing my suit for my flight home just for shits n gigs.
epixs 8y ago
I did it mainly because I didn't have a garment bag with me.
However it was very interesting to see how people treat you very differently in a suit, most women will actively try to get your attention for sure- that gold digger effect.
erplaint 8y ago
I never understand what's in their minds. It's as if average looking women think they can make themselves prettier by making themselves uglier. They think that, by magic, they will somehow break through the other side as if they will travel so far east they'll turn up west. Shitty mindset because this is not a globe, it's a swamp: the uglier you make yourself the more you sink in the mud.
darkrood 8y ago
Isn't it close to the same mindset of "Try not to find love, then love will find you" kind of bullshit?
Or to be fair, "Don't try to sleep with the girl, then the girl will try to sleep with you"
As if all you need is IDGAF attitude, then things will all take care of themselves.
Ex: Act like you don't care about serial killer wielding his butcher knife about to kill you, then somehow you will slay the serial killer with his butcher knife.
Crazy all around.
ElectroSauce 8y ago
They think it's edgy and cool.
e.g. Kaley Cuoco and Miley Cyrus
erplaint 8y ago
True. What they fail to see is that Kaley Cuoco for instance is naturally pretty and can get away with it. She is still somewhat attractive in spite of the shitty haircut, not because of it. The average woman is, well, average. Hence getting a manly haircut will make them look like a dyke, they can't pull it off. As for Miley Cyrus, better not comment on that...
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froggyfreshrap 8y ago
These were European airports? In NL u got a shitload of women with short weird hair, its a way of saying: Im an independent women smh
Blaat1985 8y ago
Only after they bagged a man. They know how unattractive it makes them.
StrokeGameHusky 8y ago
It's deplorable. I want a woman with long hair to run my fingers through and pull when I fucking her from behind.
These short, masculine hair cuts are very common among crossfit/fitness chicks. It's an epidemic. A woman with short hair, broad shoulders and a wide back, is a man.
Dravous 8y ago
I think I'd still rather have a fit girl with a boy cut than a land whale, regardless of cut.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
What you do is to wrap it around your wrist like a lasso and pull her neck backward while you thrust forward. That usually makes them come in 30 seconds flat.
HeinousFu_kery 8y ago
Or maybe an invitation to use a proper collar or scarf to pull on while fucking her from behind...that makes some of them nearly come before you start.
theflupke 8y ago
This. Every girl I know does this after a while in a relationship, I don't get it at all
Mightyskunk 8y ago
My wife wants to get hers cut short, for the convenience. I told her she'll sure have a lot more time with me not home anymore. Her hair keeps getting longer now!
IllimitableMan 8y ago
It's good grounds for dumping her IMO. It's up there with getting fat. It's not what you signed up for. You signed up for beauty, she signed up for masculinity. If you started acting like a bitch, she'd dump you. One should return that sentiment in kind. If she reneges on her side of the deal and intently debauches her beauty, the deal is off and as such she should be told to fuckoff.
darkrood 8y ago
Her: Mmm...Do you think i would look good with hair like Cucoo?
You: FUCK YOU BITCH, I want you OUT OF MY LIFE. Here is hotel money for you to spend tonight. I am calling my lawyer tomorrow!!!
mugatucrazypills 8y ago
Somebody did a routine on this, "It's just easier that way they'll say". As he points out so is "not getting out of bed when you want to take a piss", but there are consequences. Although for most women there are no immediate consequences, as the average man will think, well at least I'm still getting some pity puss.
The real message is that they don't care anymore to put effort or work into you. You've been captured/caught and now it's a game to see how slovenly a caricature and contrast(fat,boyhair,rude) of their dating self they can become before you become "insensitive" and "selfish" and abandon the LTR/marriage . Cue exit, Cue social sympathy, Cue cash and prizes.
Kind of amusing in the abstract.
ronin_khan 8y ago
1) Where are you? For those how know Europe, your post would be more interesting if we knew this. 2) What do you mean with passive aggressive behaviour among males? Examples? Thanks
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Can't tell you that - privacy is a big issue but let's just say that I have made the rounds across the entire Mediterranean. I'm talking about guys scowling at you on the street, measuring you up a little, perhaps even bump into you (with clear intent). Now before you bounce it back at me - I'm a pretty happy go lucky guy and I'm not in the habit of picking fights. (but the ones I was in I finished)
nzgs 8y ago
Just today I was enjoying the sun in town and I saw a guy who stood out to me as exceptionally good looking, almost like a fitness model or MPD competitor. We 'mired each other for a second and then I saw a girl huffing and puffing behind him yelling something to him. She was fat, orange, had cheap tattoos and no discernable wrists or ankles. I simply don't understand that kind of thing.
Personally I prefer to beat off than be with an unattractive girl, I just don't see the point in them. And at a certain threshold of unattractiveness merely being seen with her would lower one's own SMV in public.
Enjoyitbeforeitsover 8y ago
The fucking weird thing is if you kept this up for so long that your family asks if you're fucking gay lol... I really feel like lowering your standards just to be with someone is fucking retarded.
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redpillagedotcom 8y ago
I know how you feel - it's kind of shocking, right? Here are guys in the Greek God category who are pounding fives and sixes. I mean - give it even basic game the doors are wide open for them - why waste your time on those troglodytes?
darkrood 8y ago
Because it takes work. If they are already so fed, then why be so hungry?
If I am already getting 6's sex and empty all my juices regularly, then i doubt there would be any desire left for female chasing.
StrokeGameHusky 8y ago
It's all a matter of confidence.
Old school baseball scouts still judge prospects confidence on how hot their Gf's are (among other factors of course)
johnyann 8y ago
HA. I just had to deal with this. I work as a baseball coach, and actually played two years of low level minor league ball so I know a bit about this kind of stuff.
One of my best prospects is a kid I've been working with since I started(6 years ago). He is 100% the kind of player that should be drafted within the first 8 rounds. Tall, strong, extraordinary technical ability. Runs a 6.6 60 yard dash too. Best player I've ever worked with.
Anyway, he gets told from his high school coach that there are pro scouts looking at him.
Problem is that he's been single all his life and very shy with women. He's naturally an Alpha, but he grew up and only child, and hasn't really learned how to interact with women yet.
Scouts talk about how they've stopped looking at superficial things like how hot a player's girlfriend is, but that's a complete lie.
So I'm thinking that he could potentially lose out of a substantial amount of money if these scouts realize how much of a dork he is.
He ended up getting one of his teammates to have his sister go to games and pretend to be his girlfriend.
He ended up going to college instead of going pro, since an 8th round pick is alright money, but not worth missing out on college for, but I think he and the girl ended up going to prom together, so that's something.
wanderer779 8y ago
i thought everyone was doing the moneyball strategy now and were mostly relying on stats?
johnyann 8y ago
Oh they'll definitely look at the 5 tools and whatnot, but like 1 or 2 players a generation are MLB ready at 18. It's all about how a player will develop. It's hard to predict that kind of stuff with stats.
Hense why predicting confidence with the attractiveness of the girlfriend is important.
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Alleycat0 8y ago
Good post, what i noticed most is that smartphones becoming some sort of 'ego mirror' for females. Every second of the day they are checking in and receiving some superficial attention from a social media source or some hopeless white knights.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
It's a constant feedback loop. I don't think it'll go away in our lifetime.
redpillgainz 8y ago
Fantastic post OP. I don't know if anyone else here is experiencing this, but I feel my self becoming physically upset and quite angry reading this post - and it makes me start to think. I have seen similar situations to what you describe in which a young man who is very good looking, clearly hits the gym, and dresses well, will not even get the time of day from women 2-3 notches below his SMV, and you can forget about women who are 9s or 10s. I am becoming increasingly convinced that just not giving any fuck about women is the way to go. Work on yourself - make more money, get bigger, more muscular, and take your hobby or skill to the next level.
Being in the top 20% is nowhere near good enough. You will not reap the rewards of your hard work until you are in the top 5%. Until you can walk into a room and see your are the most jacked, wealthy and well groomed man there. However most importantly you will not reap the rewards until you stop doing any of it for women and start doing it all for yourself. That right there is the key, however that is what takes the longest to change as we have been conditioned for our whole lives to think in that way. To those of you who are struggling - keep fighting. We have been programmed in a certain way for many years and it can take quite some time to reverse it, but do not give up.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
I could not agree more - seems like we have made a similar journey. Remember that what/who you pursue has a tendency of wanting to escape. If you simply work for money you will never be truly successful. If you hit the gym for women and for looks only - how long are you going to keep that up? Whatever you do - do it for yourself. And not caring about women is the best way of attracting them. Ever seen the Thao of Steve?
Dex: Do you want to have sex with this woman?
Dave: Definitely.
Dex: Okay, then you're violating the first rule of being Steve.
Dave: Who?
Dex: You must learn to eliminate your desire.
Rick: It's Buddhist.
Dex: I think the Taoists said it first.
Rick: Hey, are we gonna have a seminar or are we gonna play golf?
Dex: Just a short seminar on the elimination of desire, okay? If you're out with this girl and even THINKING about getting laid, you're finished, cuz women can smell an agenda like shit on a shoe.
kcpwnsgman 8y ago
I stopped giving a fuck during my 20's (I'm 27, almost 28) and my results are getting worse the more I go to the gym, focus on my career, and develop more hobbies. It's fucking rough.
Your emotional health bleeds through somehow. Don't do any of this as an escape from women or sexual frustration. It will only lead to more pain and anger. However, if you are doing anything for the wrong reason and it's a positive step in the right direction, it's a hell of a lot better to do it than to sit around, not taking any action at all.
I heard this definition of hell: "The last day you have on earth, the person you became will meet the person you could have become". The thing is, I think this is what goes through your head when you're on your deathbed. It's made me actively fight for my beliefs. If you're reading/posting here, and going out and taking action to improve things, fighting through the pain, sticking to it, gaining straight, developing discipline, then you're a warrior. We might not live in a society that's a true warrior culture, but our spirit still need it, it's a part of our evolution, we need something good to die for. We're spiritual warriors.
It will never end. There's no finish line, you're always going to be either improving or in a downward spiral. Fight until you meet yourself in hell.
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sardinemanR 8y ago
Going to the gym does not raise your SMV to top 20%. All it does is give you a tie breaker. Men are judged by income, status and power.
If you are being compared to other men of the same income, status and power, you get the tie break win. But if your income, status and power would rate you a hard 6, you are still a 6. The gym makes you say a 6.1 instead.
You are not going to leapfrog past the pro athletes, the bankers, the doctors and other high power high status men of this world.
Anyone telling you otherwise is living in a fantasy world and is shitting you.
Also top 20% men generally don't get pissed reading this type of stuff on the internet and don't complain that they can't get interest from 9s and 10s. Part of being top 20% means you're already getting that attention in the first place, you can't claim top 20% status on one hand and then whine on the other that attractive women aren't interested in you.
I have had interest from 9s and 10s since I was 16 years old, and through that time I've been skinny, fat, ripped and flabby at different times. I've dressed like a bum and I've been in well fitting expensive looking suits. I can say with certainty these women do not give two shits about lifting. The 5s and 6s are more impressed with that, the 9s and 10s however are looking at social circles and class.
TRP in general is for MC and lower. UMC and higher is a different world. Still AWALT, but there are different quantifiers in play. Most, virtually all, 9s and 10s are going to be UMC and higher. Either because of better healthcare or whatnot, or maybe better genetics, or the fact that a 9 or 10 woman is going to be preferentially accepted. Regardless, this is how the world works.
nyc_indian_redpiller 8y ago
So why lift at all then? Is the only true path to the top 20% money?
sardinemanR 8y ago
Lift if you enjoy it and for your health, not for women.
If you're a 5 then look for a 5. A 5 female can use makeup and dress to get up to an 8 or so anyway with enough time.
Especially when you strip away the makeup, pretty much all the FRs on here are about 5s and 6s anyway.
nyc_indian_redpiller 8y ago
I guess what I'm asking is if lifting does in fact raise SMV? And not just the 0.1 point mentioned in the previous comment... meaning can you go from a 6 to an 8, or a 7 to a 9 with perfecting your body?
johnyann 8y ago
Fucking nailed it. I think sometimes you can catch the attention of a 7, but this is so fucking true.
Also dudes will be interested in you if you are into that.
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cover20 8y ago
I think also the bulging muscle gym look is an indicator of working class status. You don't find it in the best occupations or corporations. These people are too busy and are concentrating on things more useful than building a physique, which is ornamental in this day of computers and machines.
thehonestdouchebag 8y ago
I think you're looking at the gym lifestyle in the wrong light. You are taking into account only physical benefits of working out/the lifestyle.
In order to be a " gym rat/aesthetic " you have to be able to lead a disciplined and structured lifestyle. The discipline and drive you get from the gym translates to other walks of life.
The gym is may not instantly raise you to the top 20%, but the things you learn from living the gym lifestyle certainly do help you get there.
mugatucrazypills 8y ago
you could structure lifestyle around mastery of any activity, doesn't have to be lifting ... if the genetics aren't favorable become the best at something else. $, fame, celebrity, trump physical looks anyways.
cover20 8y ago
If the gym is the first time you've been disciplined, you are not doing well elsewhere in life. What about excelling at a musical instrument (not necessarily guitar), killing it in school, building something, starting an organization -- all things that generally require a lot of self discipline.
Top guys have self discipline but no muscles, because they are too busy and have no time for gym.
StrokeGameHusky 8y ago
I've been going to the gym since I was 17 (pre- RP). I haven't noticed major gains until I started lifting for strength, not glamour.
Compound workouts are you friend. Lift with perfect form. Lift for strength and discipline,not women.
In the past few years I have noticed a heavy spike in women's attention, because I am becoming more built like a man, not the situation from jersey shore..
mooch10 8y ago
Don't forget cross training with yoga or whatever. I have about a year under my belt of power yoga 1-2 times a week. My feet are ridiculously vascular and I can actually touch my toes now. Also it gives you presence of mind and body intelligence.
StrokeGameHusky 8y ago
I've tried yoga before. I've done the "P90X Yoga" workout for only a month and it was extremely difficult. It took a much bigger toll on my legs than anticipated.
Much respect, people who yoga.
RedDeadlift 8y ago
Ditto. I lifted for looks (machines, abs, arms) for 12 years before switching to lifting for strength (deadlifts, squats, heavy bench). I get much more attention now.
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An_All-Beef_Engineer 8y ago
Do you do any direct ab work?
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I've also noticed a huge difference since switching completely to free weights (except squats and hamstrings, I have bad knees) and doing compound lifts. I've also been able to cut a lot of different lifts out. I stick to deadlifts, incline/decline dumbbells, chest flys, barbell shrugs and barbell hang-pulls (not sure the accepted term for that workout is). And I've worked abs into leg workouts (hanging leg lifts, laying leg lifts, and deadlifts). I feel working them together has given me more core strength. Fuck crunches I say.
About the only isolation exercises I do are preacher curls, a certain shoulder workout, and hamstrings.
Any tips for other good compound lifts?
Edit: elaboration
writewhereileftoff 8y ago
Pull-ups, chin ups, face pulls, bent over rows, chest dips & shoulder press would fit well into your compound lifts.
Edit: also why no regular bench?
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Well, I substitute it with a flat dumbbell press. I like it better because it forces me to drop weight, go slower, and focus on my form more. Not to say that there's anything wrong with regular bench, I just find I get a better workout from using my secondary muscles a bit more to stabilize the dumbbells and keep my form tight.
I feel a lot of guys don't do dumbell press workouts more over regular bench because they usually have to drop weight to keep better form and many guys in the gym have an ego that won't let them drop weight. At least, from what I've noticed.
Edit: and on days when I'm particularly tired, I'll warm up with a regular bench.
The_Virgin_Rapist 8y ago
Do box squats. Bad knees aren't an excuse to not squat.
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I appreciate your opinion. Normally you would be right. I just don't have as strong of a knee as I used to and I don't feel comfortable doing free weight squats. That's what 4 years in the Army got me.
I can do squats with the guided bars attached to rail on the squat rack and I work in deadlifts quite frequently to make up for it.
It might not a perfect or even ideal routine, but I only have one set of knees and I'm not going to risk another serious injury to one at at 25 years old just to get the perfect lift when a far safer routine is sufficient enough.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Didn't mean to ruin your day - just stuff that's been accumulating in my mind over the past few days.
Futdashukup 8y ago
I'm English and I can confirm our women are fat as fuck. They basically mainline a mixture of Pinot Grigio, chocolate and sitting around on their fat arses doing fuck all and end up fat dobbers.
Trans: a "fat dobber" is someone who is fat. e.g "Look at that fat dobber over there."
pakleader 8y ago
Are they the type as well to proclaim on social media their love of chocolate and wine as if to say this was all within their control?
JohannFriedl 8y ago
Can also confirm. All the points about the Brits in this post ring true. On a night out in my town you'll find dozens of jacked, well dressed, good looking guys fighting over the tiny number of acceptable girls that can be found. I've seen guys that seriously could be models crash and burn in humiliating fashion trying to approach plain, sluttish, dumpy girls. It's like they have a permanent bitch shield just for the fun of it, just because they can.
Average night out = about 100 guys in the bar: 10 are creepy; 30 are just your average anonymous nice guys; 40 work out but don't present themselves too well or vice versa; 20 are well groomed, good looking, clearly work out and eat for gains.
In the same bar you'll have max 30 girls, which means average guys automatically have no hope, and of these 30 girls, 10 will be obese/old/ugly; 10 will be shaggable only with beer goggles on and the lights off; 5 will be decent looking but have boyfriends; max 5 will be attractive and available, and are usually in one group, dancing together and fighting off 100 guys.
You can see why even the fat, ugly bitches think they are god's gift to man. You constantly see high smv guys being dragged around like pets behind fugly women, whereas it's so rare to see an average guy with a good looking girl that you automatically assume they must be an escort or catalogue bride from EE or Thailand.
MoneyStatusLooks 8y ago
Can confirm, 6's are seen as 8's. 8's are seen as 10's. There is generally a lack of good quality prospects and chubby women who think they are the shit are rife.
I've found you need to go for 18-22 chicks, most chicks above that age not only let themselves go, but are hugely bitter due to riding the CC. Get em whilst they're fresh!
Futdashukup 8y ago
I agree, but it depends where you go. If you go to some cattle-market in a shit-hole town, you will get dog-rough women. If you go into a major city to a decent "club"....
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
But for some reason some of you British blokes have the best fucking game - seems to come natural to you. I re-watched Snatch and Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels this weekend. Jeeezes - if I had only half that wit and could quip like those guys... Of course there's seedy side of the British male population which is simply crude and mostly inebriated when on vacation. But when I spent some time in NYC and L.A. I have watched average looking Brits simply slay it over there. The accent in combination with the way they're handling themselves is like catnip to American chicks.
rp_valiant 8y ago
the British sense of humour works in well with taking a DGAF attitude. Everything from surreal childish humour a la Monty Python or Spike Milligan to dry and dark/twisted jokes like those seen in In Bruges or Four Lions. It all screams "I'm here for my own amusement only" and the idea of brutally tearing into your mates for laughs pretty much originated here.
Unfortunately these days the classic British gallows humour is being pushed aside by pathetic contributions from "lad culture" and shows like Little Britain and The Inbetweeners i.e. self-referential jokes about British life.
As a bonus, if you've not seen his performances before go check out Frankie Boyle. His sense of humour and no-fucks-given attitude is a beautiful thing to behold.
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mryddlin 8y ago
North america has a hard core scots-irish fetish, mostly because a large chunk of settlers here were from those two countries.
rp_valiant 8y ago
yeah, like 300 years ago. If you didn't move to America from Ireland, and your parents weren't born in Ireland, you're not Irish. It's pure wankery.
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This. The amount of booze English women drink ages them and makes them fat.
Futdashukup 8y ago
Yep. I prefer foreign women, especially Spanish,Italian,Greek , fucking any women as long as they're not English. English women when they're young look alright, but then they spoil it by talking and showing that they are generally rough as fuck.
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On the plus side though, they are easy to fuck when they are drunk...and they are often drunk.
Futdashukup 8y ago
Their general gobiness and cackling puts me off.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Make sure to bring a flashlight and a machete.
_NotUnidan_ 8y ago
Is that a thing? British girls don't trim the bush?
Ninja_Wizard_69 8y ago
You forgot to mention pizza (yaaaaaas)
fucking sigh
rp_valiant 8y ago
let's not forget the cheeky nandos and the daily starbucks. The nandos chicken's good but not when it's surrounded by a mountain of chips and bread.
Futdashukup 8y ago
I forgot to mention to your mother that I don't like fucking slags up the arse on a sunday but it didn't stop her taking one up the tradesman's .
GrandmasterHurricane 8y ago
U havin urself a giggle there m8? I'll clock u right in the gabber, I swear on me nan.
Futdashukup 8y ago
Quiet, you mountebank jackanapes or I shall best you via a spot of fisticuffs.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Oh gosh - Mr. Dictionary has abandoned us again. Let me guess - public schooling?
Futdashukup 8y ago
Mr Dictionary? Is that your mother's name for the syphilitic ,flatulent tramp that was your father? Was she trying to make him look like a big-shot?
phrostbyt 8y ago
Why would you even waste your time posting something so clearly moronic?
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Okay, NOW you're just trying too hard. Insults have to be spontaneous and if you use a bit humor it may help as well. Clearly you're rather upset and I need to settle down, take a deep breath, and think of something pleasant (e.g. last time you got a blow job from your boyfriend).
RPNietzsche 8y ago
Now THAT is what I call an insult. Brilliant.
Futdashukup 8y ago
So...you need to settle down and think about me getting a blowjob? Knock yourself out, fella.
garlicextract 8y ago
what is this "yaaaaas" that I see online nowadays
Ninja_Wizard_69 8y ago
Literally white girl for "yes." More loosely translated to "i want that badly"
LandingWoodv2 8y ago
Incorrect. It actually originated, like many things white people say and do, in hip hop.
GrandmasterHurricane 8y ago
Gtfoh dawg, that shit came from faggots who follow Lady Gaga. Actual faggot faggots.
Ninja_Wizard_69 8y ago
You've never talked to a white girl or snap chatted with one, have you?
LandingWoodv2 8y ago
I don't see how this question is relevant to my comment.
GrandmasterHurricane 8y ago
Gtfoh dawg, that shit came from faggots who follow Lady Gaga. Actual faggot faggots.
LandingWoodv2 8y ago
"Yaaas Bitch" came from black people
GrandmasterHurricane 8y ago
Nope, check yourself. That gay shit came from gay dudes that follow Lady Gaga and call her Queen.
This is the origin of yaaass https://youtu.be/5Pn0JKmy5-M
Don't ever try to play my niggas for this gay shit. Same thing for "slay mama slay", that's gay slang.
LandingWoodv2 8y ago
Aight "your" niggas came up with that shit gay or not
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mugatucrazypills 8y ago
I'm on summer vacation in the southern states and what I'm noticing this trip is a massive increase in Rude behavior among women in the near pre-post wall impact zone.
Cutting me off in line, bumping into me without saying sorry. Refusing to acknowledge anything said by me or other males, forming boxes with their GFriends, fingerbanging the phone for ego continuously, scowling, refusing to make smalltalk or even interact, deliberate belligerence (even from serving staff and cashiers)
Both older people and younger People seem polite, but the say 27-33 crowd has developed some sort of Aspergers.
I have 2 theories on this. 1) I'm growing hair out my ears that nobody told me about and my SMV just tanked to -5 2) These people, gen XY or whatever are deeply fucked up 3) I'm traveling with a child and mature family and the existence of a competent single male parenting figure has caused their hamsters to explode.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
THIS - I'm seeing that everywhere. It seems those cunts are in a mutual contest with each other to find out how much belligerence or rudeness they can get away with. Especially the older staff acts like you owe them something - the younger ones can be charmed but if you let them they'll walk all over you.
Porcodiolurido 8y ago
Spot on. I am a Southern but I work with a lot of Eastern European and I can confirm everything. Maybe you do not know an important facet of their culture: Slav women are aggressive. While most Slavs are calm and reasonable (but more than capable of tearing you in two if angered), Slav women tend to suffer from berserker rage!
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Never experienced that I'm happy to say. Thanks for the warning!
Porcodiolurido 8y ago
Working in an UK factory gives you insight about the Slavic mind. I've seen a lot of Polish female team leaders and supervisors keeping the workers on a tight leash and intimidating Muslim workers twice their size. Impressive!
mugatucrazypills 8y ago
always glad to see muslims intimidated ... send rosa the lesbian over to whip them into line.
Sawagurumi 8y ago
In the battle of the sexes, when men lose, everybody loses. Women lose directly, because they cannot get a satisfying relationship with a man they can respect (and women's love is built on respect). Longer term, society fails, because civilization is built and maintained by men, not women. Women's 'work' outside the home is a vanity project that only rich societies can afford. When civilizations fall, women suffer too.
H1N11 8y ago
You wrote all that shit for no reason. All of that shit is normal. Jesus christ this subreddit has some faggots that post in it these days
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redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Seems like you're in the minority pal. Now take a chill pill.
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VodkaTankerSpill 8y ago
Ok so some dudes died here what does that have to do with picture sticks? People steal cameras and I would rather take the picture with a stick then ask a stranger to take picture for us.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Right - people are icky and everyone is out to get ya - and talking to them - OMG!! Enjoy life in your bubble.
ericatx 8y ago
Invest now in sperm banking or fertility clinic operations. These women in the future will be using sperm donors only when it comes time to have their baby fantasies fullfilled. Great post! Very observant and well written.
widec 8y ago
There's plenty of walking sperm donors around, but fertility clinics will have a growing customer base without a doubt.
iamanalterror 8y ago
There's a horror story I shudder to think about.
A BB paying for some sperm donor's child with the woman that he is married to, because she didn't want to reproduce with him.
cover20 8y ago
No need to shudder. Just don't be that BB.
Maybe being an alpha (or at least non-beta) is being able to say no to women, repeatedly, happily.
powerfap107 8y ago
LOL there was a thread about a story just like that but it was due to the dude's height. I'm gonna try to find it. Edit: Found it. Cringe away
makethemsayayy 8y ago
lol I don't know how any of these guys agree to support women who didn't let them pass on their genes.
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shesaiddestroy 8y ago
"Things aren't exactly how I like it, better take 2 hours and write about these darn young people". This post has to be a troll.
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EpicLevelCheater 8y ago
Then leave and go find something you like. It's a great big internet out there.
sardinemanR 8y ago
I do think a lot of the posts on TRP are Autistic/neckbeard for sure, but I don't think this one is that bad. It has some decent stuff.
I roll my eyes when I see the usual novel length "FR" where the guy tries to brag about some obvious fictional account which is just thinly veiling a lot of whining.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Now that I know you approve I can sleep better ;-)
mugatucrazypills 8y ago
UKers have a drinking problem as a nation
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of course. women don't need men because women can just get knocked up by her favorite chad and raise the baby on her own. on the other hand, 99% of guys who aren't chad, will die without having kids.
the result is that fewer and fewer guys have more and more of the sex. so most women are still doing fine, but most guys aren't.
This is the result when for thousands of years, marriage is about the girl giving sex and babies, and the guy having a job. But the guy gave the job market over to women, and now the women aren't giving the "babies" so to speak. The result is a large power differential.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Also back in the days Tim may have simply killed good looking Chad for banging his girlfriend (or love interest). Not that I'm supporting violence or murder - quite on the contrary. But duels were a widespread practice not too long ago and settled quite a many broken hearts/egos. Either way they reduced the gene pool of men - I hate to say it but there's simply too many of us. Memo to everyone: have more daughters! An increase of 3% - 5% in female births alone would arrest feminism in one generation.
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nah, feminism would just be like "there aren't enough men for us, and it's men's fault. this is patriarchy"
MrRexels 8y ago
Enjoy the decline buddy! Degeneracy is where the money's at!
NevrEndr 8y ago
I agree with most of your points however I feel like you care way too much about what everyone else is doing. Instead of giving a shit about everyone else own your shit instead. Who cares if Joe Schmo has a selfie stick? I know an alpha with one who gets laid all the time. He owns it and doesn't care what anybody else thinks about it
THCanadian17 8y ago
Exactly. It seems like some of the guys here are so worried about being masculine or alpha they become very defensive, insecure and quick to judge/overlook things. I also take selfies somewhat often and it doesn't mean shit to me other than it being a good way to show off my SMV to these stupid sluts on FB and instagram. Maybe they these older guys need to adapt.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Hey, maybe you two can start a club?
M1s4n7hr0p3 8y ago
So basically, if you want to travel, considern eastern Europe and latin America as your best bets.
jsalathe 8y ago
A 16th century church would be renaissance, not Gothic.
Otherwise, you speak truth about EE and SE still being fairly RP societies.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Gothic period lasted from the 12 - 16 century but okay fine...
froggyfreshrap 8y ago
Welcome to Europe, here girls dont give a flying phuck if you are good looking, here they will push u aside and fuck some ugly fat dude. Stay in America, im good looking too and did very well there. Im from The Netherlands and its even worser here, in clubs you will see a HB5 or HB6 being orbited by betas(good luck breaching the shield) and licking her arse like shes some godess. No girl will even notice you, heck i dont even want to be noticed by as you said some girl way below my SMV xD.
froggyfreshrap 8y ago
Looks like the butthurt beta orbiters are mad ;)
jeezydasnowman 8y ago
I'll bet ur great to be around at parties /s
I get that ur feathers are ruffled and that this is the proper place to post but I detect a lot if anger + offended-ness. Better to be a fun person than a cynic.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
As the saying goes - don't kill the messenger.
1-800-777-GOLD 8y ago
getting out of the metro and college town areas in the US helps a little bit. The closest thing to a Unicorn is a girl who doesnt heavily use fb/instagram/twitter/whatever incessantly as ego boosters
ray_the_bachelor 8y ago
Great post OP! In some soft sciences those observations would have been accepted as a BA thesis :D
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
I wouldn't go that far. But judging by how many blue pillers I seem to have offended with this post I must have done something right!
Monobrow02 8y ago
I think this might be a class issue. Upper class British girls tend to not be as overweight or plaster their faces with orange makeup.
rp_valiant 8y ago
Upper class English girls are insufferable though - they're so caught up in shit like instagram, starbucks, general basic white bitch behaviour. Case in point: Made in Chelsea.
cagethepepper 8y ago
Most British women are so unattractive, it's almost physically exhausting.
a_nus 8y ago
Same thing in Mexico, and as far as I can tell, also in the US.
RXRob 8y ago
Englishman who's never left Europe here. Very well written review of our historic continent.
There's far too much in your post to reply to on my phone, but I had to laugh because I have a calf tattoo and shaved legs. Is that really just a European thing?
The two things that I've taken away are that it sounds like I need a holiday to America to mop up some pussy, and I should get shares in tattoo removal.
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Don't hold your breath. Like the OP pointed out, obesity is a huge problem in this country.
RXRob 8y ago
I'm not going to fuck a fatty
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I figured you wouldn't. I was trying to warn you.
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unmeilleurmoi 8y ago
This reads like some American from shitsville USA discovered city life but only in Europe. I've been to 47 countries in the past 8 years and I live in a major American city. The differences are not really as major as outlined here. Every country has their cities and their areas. You're just not finding them everywhere.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
I grew up in six countries and have visited over a dozen, including having spent several years in the U.S. - I speak four languages fluently. So take your assumptions and stick them where the sun don't shine.
i_forget_my_userids 8y ago
I couldn't agree more. I was trying to figure out how this guy managed choking on Europe's dick so hard while shitting on it at the same time.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Look, I really wish you guys would come up with something a bit more creative or humorous when trying to insult people. I mean seriously - do you really think that I'm going to cry into my pillow tonight thinking about your crude virtual insults? You guys simply have to try a bit harder - at minimum try to be funny. These type of comments are like banner ads - annoying and easily forgotten. You can do better!
bobawet 8y ago
I've noticed the same just in my so cal community. It's seems to me that guys are killing it, at the gym and at work. Makes me proud to be one most of the time, what doesn't make me proud is said guys settling for some lazy cunt that treats them like shit and is 15-20 lbs overweight.
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I thank my lucky stars every day for not being born a woman.
John_E_Vegas 8y ago
A lot of good observations, OP, and agree with most of it, but I must confess that your love of European fashion, especially espadrilles, shook my confidence just a bit.
Also:
This is nothing new. It manifests itself a bit differently these days, but I can direct you to countless examples from 20 years ago that expose the same behavior - including country music songs about it.
All in all, these observations indicate an alarming trend and we RPers must continue to hold the line. But I'm going to do it wearing shoes that aren't espadrilles.
redadactyl 8y ago
I do find the European style of dress to be a tad feminine, even for the masculine soccer bros. Example: those soccer pants that zip near the ankles and gives everyone peglegs. Now I'm not saying a svelt Italian suit isn't masculine, but the general population doesn't walk around in that all day. Then again my buddies call me fag-o-tron when im not wearing boardshorts so the trashy coast of Florida has no business critiquing European fashion.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
LOL - got it - I guess you have to be European or something to wear them and not come across feminine. Personally I think they are horrible shoe wear - flat and uncomfortable with little padding and support.
dabrah1 8y ago
Very well written and informative post. The only part I disagree on you with is the "tattoo epidemic". Admittedly, there are way too many wannabe tough guys donning tribal armbands, or death before dishonor written on their backs. There are also too many girls with stupid butterfly tattoos. But as long as someone has a tattoo that is well done, and actually means something to them, I don't see a problem with them. I don't think its really an indicator of the downfall of men or society, or that it neccessarily has a large effect on SMV, positively or negatively. Actually a lot of tattoos I see are very well done and fun to look at, and a great way to start a conversation with someone, guy or girl.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Maybe I'm too old fashioned there - it's not a huge issue for me personally. That said - I would never marry a women with tats - but that's just me.
panzergling 8y ago
I gave up once you said that the height of a man's looks are dictated by modeling agencies. Yeah right.
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blahblah2814 8y ago
This is a very nice detailed post.
frys180 8y ago
How can you tell when the women/men are East, West, North, and Southern European? What are the features you look for and how do you do it?
Edit: I meant to say how.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Depending on distance - clothes, figure, weight, shoes, how they walk/behave, how loud they are, etc. I can't really give you one thing - it's an amalgamation of little clues. Finally of course their voices and the language ;)
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wheyapartment 8y ago
"again amplifying over bloated egos and the perception of their SMV"
lol. That reminds me of the episode of southpark where one girl uses photoshop to look hot on facebook
Soob4ME 8y ago
Damn, that was a shit ton of truth I just read.
Argocap 8y ago
Just spent a week in Eastern Europe and am now in Northern Europe. Have seen the phenomenon where women are leading around men everywhere. Sticks out and looks really bad.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Both in EE and NE? Sheeesh... I guess there is no hope then.
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redpillagedotcom 8y ago
FLAK away and see if I care ;-)
mugatucrazypills 8y ago
Eastern European women play like this:
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2015/02/04/tax-fighter-philippe-dioguardi-has-serious-battles-of-his-own.html
25K a month for starters to maintain the bolt ons. Condo for her, condo for mommy in law. Accidentally stepped on his toes on a trip to Russia. You'll think you're top 5% but you'll end up face down floating in the Volga.
Curiously Cold ? sounds like the her handler pimp is back in town.
bluedrygrass 8y ago
Absolutely. The only marginal differences are due to residual "lagging behind" in cultural maxirms in some regions.
Take a female from any region of the earth, raise her in the worse "freer" way possbible, and they'll all end up doing the very same things, with the bar as low and lower than the standard american feminist.
Every single one of them, even those little submissive oriental women, or the inuit ones, or wherever else.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
The tougher the country the softer/feminine the women and the inverse.
RedPillscientist 8y ago
Classic case of "you give them an inch, they'll take a mile"
FromBPtoRP 8y ago
Eastern/North European here (Lithuania). I've just came from short vacation in my country. We have a nice seaside here, where come lots of rich people from Russia, Belarus and not so many from the Western Europe. But the majority of people are from my own country (and girls too). My opinions on what I've seen:
1) Being normally fit is not a big advantage anymore. So many men more or less are masculine and unless you have a bodybuilder or fitness model body, no one really cares.
2) Hot (top) girls are with very good looking guys who aren't just masculine but seemingly have some status and (or) money too. Drinking expensive champagnes on the beach and other shit. Only few men weren't good looking.
3) Girls are dressed very openly and bitchy and it's totally acceptable.
4) There's no chance to pick up hottest girls if you don't have money/status. As I said, looks don't play a big role.
5) There are so many hot and good looking girls and seems like they're there to attract high status men, spend time with them.
You can see some illustrations here: http://www.alfa.lt/straipsnis/49898100/seksualios-lietuvaites-pajuryje-stingde-vyru-krauja-jura-lepinosi-ir-egle-straleckaite
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Perhaps let me add to that. Social status is increasingly becoming the new barrier of entry. You may have money and looks but girls want to be with guys that other girls want to fuck as well. That's what the whole social networking thing is about. Impressing others and getting into circles that are closed to strangers/outsiders. This especially spells true here in the Mediterranean - I only have cursory experience over in EE. Judging from your comment it seems to be going the same direction.
FromBPtoRP 8y ago
Yes, that's what I've wanted to say. In the places like that, HB's become more aware of their SMV as guys can't put their looks away from their bikinis. Not to mention those girls get lots of attention. They know they can get into the circles you are talking about. Well that's the whole point. If talking about status in general, social network sites made a huge impact on that.
oldredder 8y ago
this is not new: this is how it's always been
RPJapan 8y ago
I just got back from Vietnam and I was noticing this same shit when I saw westerners. Why are there good looking men with short hair hamplanets dragging them like dogs, when there are plenty of beautiful Vietnamese women for the taking. I'm average looks and I went there with 10 condoms and returned with 2.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Shame on you for returning with 2! ;-)
SpaceChris 8y ago
Brilliant. I've been to an electronic music festival in Germany a few days ago and almost all of your points went through my head
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
I know Germany a little - where did you go?
Jimmypickles 8y ago
People are becoming socially retarded, and that scares me
hhdslater 8y ago
I agree with most of the points, but you sound like a sad old man with regard to the tattoos and piercings.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
I take it you have tats? Look back at the hairstyles of the 1960s and 1970s - do you think they're silly? Thing is - in the 80s the same guys were able to cut their manes, burn their yellow suits, and join a hedge fund or start a software company. All these people with tats however are marked for life - unless they spend quite a bit of effort/time removing them, and often it leaves scars.
I know - it's easy to shoot the messenger and call me everything from old to sad. But let me assure you that many 'grown up' men I have met in my life - meaning bankers, doctors, fund managers, lawyers, scientists, engineers, etc - would probably screw a gal with tats but definitely not marry her or have children with her. This view becomes more entrenched the higher you climb in the social order. The same people would also not hire a guy who's covered in tats - it's reeks of low IQ, personality problems such as self esteem issues, and if nothing else suggests that the candidate has zero talent for long term planning.
duckspeed 8y ago
Don't waste your time with these retards.
hhdslater 8y ago
This was perfect for r/IAmVerySmart.
Words-Are-Wind 8y ago
How? He isn't using any big syllable words, or talking about crazy theories or ideologies that are hard to understand. He's just stating truth. If you think you're going to be hired for any higher up position in which you have to deal with customers or other businesses while covered in tats, piercings, or gauges, it is just wishful thinking. Even if you are more qualified, sometimes its about image, and blending in with the "corporate culture".
I'm not saying this is how it should be, I'm just stating how it is. The way most corporations work is to weed out poor fits first. So if you aren't making it to the third round of interviews, it's not that you are lacking in knowledge or ability, it's that you are not seen as the right person for the company. If you make it to third round interviews, then you know they like you as a person and see you as a viable candidate, and as long as you can impress them with your knowledge and abilities on that third interview, then you are in.
If what he said, or I said for that matter, seems anything more than what an average mind is capable of conjuring up, then I feel really bad for you.
hhdslater 8y ago
Obviously if you are covered in tats, odds are you're not going to get a job on Wall Street. But he's not just "stating how it is." He's judging the intelligence of all people who have tattoos.
Direct quote:
If you think that, that's just "stating how it is" then I feel really bad for you. This is why I have a love/hate relationship with this sub. So many people on here are just nice-guy neckbeards who hate on what they don't understand - and what they don't understand is how to get laid.
Words-Are-Wind 8y ago
Well you're right, that is certainly a little beyond stating how it is, but I would say that is how society at large feels about it, and especially the people you'd meet in work environments.
Think of it this way... even if you are right, and the OP is just a sad old man, it's usually sad old men that run the world and determine your fate, not cool young guys. When you get in trouble you're not going to have a judge with tats, your employer will probably be some super beta old dude, and his boss is probably some even older and more beta guy. Earning their respect will get you much farther than getting the respect of any young person or woman. And being the betas they are, they would be quick to judge and alienate you from their group over something as benign as tats. It pretty much boils down to that rule of power that says don't outshine the master. No one wants to have to hire a guy who seems way cooler than themselves, especially a beta with a case of workplace oneitus.
hhdslater 8y ago
Since you're twisting the shit out of my words in order to construct your arguments, this is going to be my last comment.
Did I say that I'm mad that society generally doesn't hire people with tattoos? No. I even agreed on that point. Did I say that the only way I can get laid is by having tattoos? No, I didn't. I only meant that it helps in a lot of cases. Besides, I only have one tattoo, and it's very small and hardly noticeable, so it doesn't make any kind of difference in my sex appeal.
The only thing I said was that OP is judging literally everyone who has tattoos by saying they likely have lower IQ's and struggle with mental disorders. He actually said this in his comment. Now you're taking my rebuttal of this and turning it into some alpha-beta, over-intellectualization bullshit.
I was calling out obvious bigotry. That's it. (By the way, I'm not trying to compare an intolerance of tattoos to racism or some shit, but an intolerance of people with tattoos is, by definition, bigotry.) The fact that you're trying to turn this into some shit about how I'm being beta and need to "alpha-up" only vouches for my point that this sub is riddled with neckbeards whose inferiority complexes can be smelled a mile away. You guys overthink the shit out of this stuff.
EDIT: One last notable point I should add, is that you're assuming that everyone who gets tattoos wants to have a job as a business man or doctor or banker, etc. Ever occur to you that intelligence takes multiple forms, and maybe people who get tattoos generally don't pursue those types of careers?
LuvBeer 8y ago
Unmitigated narcissism...
Having cool pics is expected nowadays. Most pictures don't come out cool so you have to take lots of them to get one or two that do. I don't think overly highly of myself and never post to fb, but cool pics work in getting attention more than words ever can.
AliasOfAnAlien 8y ago
It's the 'Hate on selfie stick' circle jerk, like seriously what does people dying in trenches have to do with my freedom to use one for a nice picture.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
I didn't know it's become a 'circle jerk' - nobody has tried that on my end, I'm sure I would remember.
Now since you're apparently a bit thick let me lay it for you. My intent was to contrast your spoiled existence with the fact that there once were a people who had more important matters/causes/problems to worry about. Like dragging their bleeding friend of a battle field whilst dodging bullets. Now if they only had been equipped with cameras on sticks instead of muskets or rifles you may just have gotten the point, but alas...
AliasOfAnAlien 8y ago
So my spoilt existence is simply my fault for being born after world wars?
Please tell me more about how you know my life, and how God damn easy it is.
grut4 8y ago
I don't give a damn about what is expected.
LuvBeer 8y ago
No? You don't have any brand name clothes? Man is a social animal and part of this is respecting conventions. Disregard all conventions and you become a pariah and no one will associate with you.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
You got me. Truth be told I only buy clothes with brand names printed in large letters all over them. And I lay awake at night worrying about what people think about me and my clothes. Sometimes I cry a little. But then I console myself by the fact that there are mature sovereign individuals like you on this earth and I feel much better.
LuvBeer 8y ago
Yeah yeah, agree and amplify...look I'm just adding an additional point of view, if you want to take it personally maybe you do give a damn and you need to work on your frame before posting two thousand word essays to the internet.
TheSliceman 8y ago
Great post bro, keep em coming!
ComplainyGuy 8y ago
Men can date below their smv. There are some reasons that redpill/alpha men BENEFIT from dating below their smv if done right.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Cannot think of a single reason. My dick wants hot chicks.
chances_are_ur_a_fag 8y ago
damn, where you in Turkey too? also, as a Ukrainian totally agree with your observation of the ee men.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Turkey - never so far - not really attracted to going either.
chances_are_ur_a_fag 8y ago
oh it's great, you def should
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gaou_ 8y ago
Hey thanks for taking the time to write this , i live in Greece and you are spot on . Can you please take some time to explain this to me :
Forget ONS etc the culture is different , but all i can see from girls is apathy ,they just have no interest in finding a man . I guess the economic situation plays a part in it (they are poor and have no interest even in BB for survival), also smartphones and the internet as you said they have become zombies , they live their lives through their phones . Do you have any insight what's the cause of this ?
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Two words - information overload. It takes only a few days online for a young gal to wise up and realize that her pussy is considered the golden ticket over here in the West. Put yourself in their shoes - wherever you go you sense the thirst and you can't help but trip over well built handsome dudes willing to do jump your bones. Let alone all the other suckers (7s and 6s and below) who are all to happy to do your bidding for mere scraps of attention. We dudes may complain about this till the cows come home but if the rules were reversed we'd probably act like a bunch of spoiled cunts as well.
The problem is that the collective hands of Western men are tied - we are completely fucked in this social climate. Read IllimitableMan's write up above - he pretty much spells it out (he also runs a kick ass blog which I read regularly).
cover20 8y ago
I think the cause of it is exactly what you say. They're buried in their smartphones. While they are doing that, they are not getting seduced by you, Chad or anyone else. They are simply not fucking.
One seduces a girl by getting her vagina to send alarm signals to override her everyday brain. If that brain is so busy the vagina can't get a word in, she won't end up in bed and the poor vagina will be neglected.
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razorwan 8y ago
Very well thought out and written post, OP. I find myself guilty of the phone-checking habit, mostly because I'm still in the process of shedding my former BP skin, and am pretty socially awkward/anxious in social situations. As with most people, there's nothing of particular interest on my phone, but it's just used as a technique to avoid conversation to give my introverted ass a breather.
Selfies are fucking hilarious, and you're spot on to call them out. They're the best form of modern-day, whorish narcissism becoming palpable. Why take pictures for memories when you can use them to feed your already swollen ego? After all, once the wall hits you need to remember those glory days where betas were kissing your feet, right?
whisky1111 8y ago
Nobody should be surprised by this outcome. Women have been told for decades "you don't need a man." At some point it was bound to sink into the collective consciousness of women.
Then men assisted in making themselves obsolete.
Well here we are, we are for the most part obsolete and we aren't happy about it.
We have given them total solipsism complete with their own little digital networks.
Why should we be shocked that they don't reciprocate physical touches from the men they are with? Their first loves are themselves, their phones, all else is just a nuisance to meet some temporary end.
And even the older ones that are not glued to their phones are so filled with years of feminist programming that there is nothing soft or feminine about them anymore.
And you know what?
I hope they get worse! Why?
Because the more toxic women get the more men wake up to the fact that modern women generally add zero value to their lives.
Long live the red pill!
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Just like with politics - social trends act like a pendulum which swings from one end of the extreme to the other. How extreme the range depends on the population and history of a nation of course. Just as Newton's third law states: for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. You cannot stomp on generations of men without expecting some type of revolution or social upheaval.
enkae7317 8y ago
You say sorry a lot in your post. No reason to.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
My apologies - really truly sorry.
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im looking back at his responses and I see OP sticking by his guns and even disagreeing at times. doesnt seem to be apologizing.
Tarnsman4Life 8y ago
What motive do women have to show in men except for maybe the top 5% or less? Even a soft 7 can go out and have sex with a guy who is close to a 9 if she tried for long enough. Having sex with another 7 or an 8 is effortless. So why do women have to show interest, social media has accelerated the CC.
Worse case scenario for a woman riding the CC is that she gets pregnant, she goes on welfare and survives. More often than that, they child support rape the men. About as often they will rush to find a Beta Orbiter , fuck him once then claim that it is his child.
There are literally no consequences to being a
modern, western womanslut.Very good observations and very well written.
On EE women
My theory behind this is EE women still see a lot more/suffer from a lot more/remember a lot more "lack". Like people in America after the Great Depression; the "post Soviet" era has made an impression on a whole generation of EE men and women. If a 8 or 9 EE woman can lock down a man who will support her for life so long as she is sort of a good wife, she will. Fail to support her, AWALT, but keep the cash flowing and the comfort coming and you are in like flint.
That does not apply to EE women in the west though. As Eddie Murphy said you gotta keep "bush bitch" locked away.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Even more so - there mainly benefits to being a modern Western slut, and the MSM is actively encouraging it whilst shaming/punishing men for their natural sexuality. Until of course eventually they hit the magic 30 mark or their asses/tits start sagging - then it's time to meet Mr. Reality. Why do you think most women over 35 look so jaded/frustrated? And it only gets worse as they get older - especially when they realize they wasted away their youth and condemned to spend the rest of their lowly existence with their cats? The whole hot cougar thing has been completely blown out of proportion - very few women over 30 have even half the pull they enjoyed in their youth. Sure they may be able to angle themselves some beta slob - but they'll be miserable and hate not only the guy they are with but themselves. It would be worse for them if the social climate wasn't primarily catering to the needs of women.
For a smart man however the good life really starts after 30 - if you build yourself up and especially if you manage to create wealth and means for yourself, if you educate yourself and broaden your perspective then the sky's the limit. Unless he's hideous or fugly a wealthy 35 - 50 year old man can wield the same SMV of that of a 20 year old 9 or 10. Meaning fuck two or three young hotties per week - if that's what he desires. Frankly - if you're over 35 and don't have over $500k in your savings account then you're f..ing idiot.
I for one have been there and done that - and it gets old. Have been pulling quite a few 8s, 9s, and even some 10s in my life. All in the attitude and the delivery - as a man you literally create your own reality. Women are just the sideshow and they always will be. It's up to us men to reassert ourselves and the simple truth is that all that's required is that we simply act like men again. Every man out there acting like a blue pill bitch is part of the problem.
byronshadow 8y ago
The experience itself isn't important. What matters is updating your Facebook to show all your friends how worldy you are. This sort of narcissism is becoming the norm. Women, already obsessed with managing others' perceptions of them, are ill-equipped to handle 24/7 connectivity with any degree of restraint or maturity.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Yeah, try to ask her one question about that fucking church - she will not remember a single detail (e.g. period, name, history, etc.). Not only are they vapid creatures - they just simply couldn't give less of a fuck. "Oh wait - gotta go - there's Chad texting me..."
Redasshole 8y ago
Do me a favor and remove that "sorry" from your post. Seriously.
Have you seen that "Spy" movie lately? The main character is an obese woman. I almost threw up in the theater. And in the end, she fucks the super hot guy and, of course, she express how much SHE is disgusted that she fucked the guy because she deserves so much better....Fuck that film. Go see it to see how people are repgrogrammed to accept OBESE women as normal and even encouraged.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
I hear ya mate - but the audiences seem to be eating it up.... many of them being men (or young boys).
Redasshole 8y ago
I'm not concerned about men/boys as much as I am concerned about women: they are being taught that even if they are disgustingly obese, they will have whatever they dream of. They are going to become unhealthy. Weak and unhealthy mothers raises weak children, thus weakening the country.
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mugatucrazypills 8y ago
Please stop spreading the idea that Asian Women are magic fetishized unicorns that will not rape you blind. Lots of whites are avoiding the shallow white dating pool. Does not mean the Asian pool is free of sharks.
Avedas 8y ago
I'm currently living in Japan. AWALT, don't forget that. And the white expats with Japanese wives here just picked up spinsters who couldn't pull anything in their own society. SMV holds as true as anywhere else.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Gender demographics at birth are about 107/100 men to women but back in the old days this equaled out due to war and work related deaths/injuries. Now almost everyone lives past 40 and even small shifts in gender demographics can greatly affect relationship dynamics. Compare NYC with L.A. for instance - so much easier to bang girls in NYC where the ratio is near par or below (in favor of men). If you find a country with an inverse ratio (i.e. more women than men) and it's livable then go there! It'll be like taking candy from babies.
sardinemanR 8y ago
That's the weird thing though. 107/100 really isn't that big of a discrepancy, but it really looks a lot more massive than that.
I think because a lot of the women just opt out and become lesbians or something.
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redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Thank you for your valuable advice.
sabbath06 8y ago
How many times are you going to say 'don'
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
I haven't thought about it but I do seem to enjoy the word.
Profdiddy 8y ago
Can confirm was in Italy for two weeks and observed similar. However, EE alphaness was a front as the wives came out later and cuckolded their husbands at the clubs with me.
grubek 8y ago
Your description of the well dressed fit men vs more fatish women completely lost in their shit reminds me of the rat experiment and the beautiful ones. The situation is freakishly similar.
It has been posted here several times but basically is an experiment where they put rats in a contained environment. At some point of the experiment they start giving the rats excess food and water, there is enough for everybody and then more. The result is that rat society starts to degrade. Female rats start to become more aggressive, alpha male rats start having trouble to control them. More males start to remove themselves and appears a group named "the beautiful ones", a group of male rats that take care of their appearance but hardly interact with females. I believe the end result was that they were not having sex and the colony ends up dying, but I'm not sure.
The freaky part is that here you have described males and females behaving just like the rats in the experiment. Women becoming more aggressive and domineering while self absorbed at the same time. Males becoming more attractive but getting less female attention. Still some alphas around. And with the obesity crisis nobody is going to deny we are living in food abundance...
Its humbling to say the least that we as humans could just be behaving like fucking rats, but at the end the sexual impulses are very primitive so it makes sense that this could be the case. It was really freaking me out as I was reading your post how similar what you described was to the rat experiment.
BallisticTherapy 8y ago
John Calhoun's rat experiment.
http://www.returnofkings.com/36915/what-humans-can-learn-from-the-mice-utopia-experiment
WineConnoisseur 8y ago
"At least half of them cut their hair short after they get marrird or before that". Statistically that means half of US girls with short hair get it cut DURING the wedding ceremony. I agree, this strikes me as very rude behavior. All I can say is, this guy does not seem like a fun dude to go on vacation with.
iDont_too 8y ago
I have also noticed an increase in men who are treated more like puppies than partners. Also an increasing amount of men pushing push-chairs while their wife/girlfriend pegs away at her phone.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Yup, dudes acting like pack animals. Which I think they are in the minds of their wives/girlfriends.
Mitchell78 8y ago
Your observations are spot on with what i have experienced.
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RichardPalma 8y ago
Selfies have been around a while. I have a collection of selfies going back into the mid 2000s. Before that, I have this weird collection of pictures where all that's in it is my foot. Fact is that people hate on selfies, but they are super convenient. Much better than handing over your multiple-hundreds of dollars computer with tons of your personal information over to some stranger who probably has no idea how to frame or perceive lighting. It's not practical to always have friends with you and even as a couple, you want pictures together. This hate for selfies really needs to stop because it's just stupid and childish. Selfies are convenient.
I do agree that selfie sticks are becoming popular. I'm traveling across the country right now and when you go to gas stations at travel plazas (Loves, Flying J, that kind of thing), they have these selfie sticks by the register, right besaide the various usb charging cables. This indicates that they are a very hot item to sell. I was just at the grand canyon and I saw dozens of selfie sticks.
It is nice that you have more options in your picture taking. You don't have to appear too close, and your arm doesn't look like it's stretching towards the picture. You can get nicer angles and what not. But also, in direct sunlight, like at the grand canyon, it's hard enough to see the image when taking a selfie, on a stick, it's impossible, so it's basically point and pray. Plus, you have to carry this extra impelement along with you, easy if you have a Giant Purse^tm, not so easy for a guy. I don't see these as convenient but also don't agree with the hate on them. There is a commercial for something (some fast food, maybe wendy's) where they make fun of people with selfie sticks with a girl taking a picture of her and her friend taking a selfie. I think this commercial probably did more to popularize the sticks than stigmatize them, but it shows that some people just feel they are wrong.
Maybe it's because of the vanity, but vanity isn't the only reason to take a selfie. If you post to faebook a picture of the grand canyon without you in it, then it could be just something you downloaded and then uploaded. In fact, if you aren't in the picture, I would say that most people would just assume it's a picture of the grand canyon you liked, not that you were there. I just saw a picture on the book of faces of this rising moon over a beach and ocean and it looked amazing. I instantly thought it was not taken by the poster (and I'm still not sure if it was). But a picture with you in it is like putting a post-it with your reddit username and date in there, it's verification that you really were there.
Anyway, I think people worry too much about what other people are doing.
redpillagedotcom 8y ago
Can't really disagree with you on that one. But all of you guys defending the camera stick are completely missing my point (quelle surprise). This is not about the stick per se, it's about the people who are using it in the pursuit of unmitigated narcissism. If you spend more time of your vacation taking pictures of yourself than actually enjoying your surroundings, then you may just be a bit self absorbed, n'est-ce-pas?