Summary
Don't get married.
Yes, AWALT
I have a subscription to a service that lets me see new lawsuits that are filed in my area. A few weeks ago, I saw a lawsuit that was filed by a professional in his late 60s against some other 60ish guy for "alienation of affection" -- i.e., stealing his wife. It was a tough read. The plaintiff and his wife had raised a couple of kids together and were planning on moving to a condo in the stylist part of the city, and the wife just decided she preferred the company of another guy. Basically, after having used the beta to create and provide for a family, and to get her everything that she wanted, she walked away. The husband was stunned, the kids were aghast, and it didn't matter - she needed to do her "journey" or whatever.
This isn't about that lawsuit. It's about this Pulitzer-prize winning photo titled Burst of Joy. It shows an Air Force colonel, Robert Stirm, being reunited with his family after 5 years as a POW in North Vietnam. Four beautiful kids and a beautiful wife. If you can see that photo knowing that background and not feel a little dust in the room, you're a better man than I.
Well, turns out the photo didn't tell the whole story. Here are a couple of articles that spell out more of the background. The shortened version:
- After his first year of being tortured by the Vietcong, his wife -- and mother of his four children -- was cheating on him, and actually using his POW allotments to finance vacations with her lovers.
- When he was shipped from Vietnam to the Philippines before being sent home, he was handed a "Dear John" letter written by his wife.
- They got divorced and despite evidence that she'd been unfaithful she got custody of 2/4 kids (with the attendant child support); the family home and car; and 42% of his pension. In addition, she didn't have to pay back the $136k (about 3/4 of a million in modern dollars) in his POW allotment that she'd already received, though the court did order repayment of $1,500 she'd spent traveling with other men.
I did some additional research; it turns out the good Colonel actually turned down a brigadier general appointment so he could spend more time with his family.
Anyways, the LA Times article allows Colonel Stirm to say it all:
Many people try to escape the past by willing themselves to forget, by allowing the years to dull the ache and make the memories recede. But for Stirm, there will always be the picture.
It is a tangible reminder that what kept him alive for those five years as a prisoner of war was, in part, an illusion.
"The momentum to stay alive for my family's sake was very strong, because I had four neat children and what I believed to be a neat wife that I wanted to get back to see," he said quietly.
Lessons Learned
So, these items should remind us all that:
- Yes, AWALT. So don't get married. If you do...
- It doesn't matter if you're sent away because of work or because you're a POW -- if you're away from your woman, she will cheat, and hamster it away.
- The money you earned -- through 60-80 workweeks, or from having bamboo shoved under your fingernails -- will be used by her to finance her "journey" or whatever with her new lover(s).
- Don't get married. Seriously, man, don't do it.
RedVillain 10y ago
I work with an ex marine who did a few tours in the middle east recently. He can't watch movies or television that depict female infidelity because it puts him in a ptsd rage. This is a man who has killed and has seen his buddies get killed. He said watching his fellow marines get dear john letters and discover their girlfriends and wives cheating fucked him up worse than anything. Let this be a caution to all of us, especially those of you going into the military.
foldpak111 10y ago
I see women do this all the time. Just last night I found out a girl I'm fuckin has a boyfriend working IT in Afghanistan. Disgusting.
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I didn't serve but after going through that kind of retarded drama I lost all taste for that sort of "entertainment". I used to enjoy watching that show "Cheaters" once in awhile but now I can't. One of the stations in my town confronts cheaters via phone calls...I have to turn, I can't listen to it. It actually makes me sick to my stomach. Guess that's what you get for having empathy. I wouldn't be surprised your buddy is the same way having seen it happen over and over again to guys he cared about.
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MHOOD01 10y ago
I would not even want to imagine what happens if he did.
When the movie 'Jarhead' came out there is a scene where they get this video and the video has one of the soldiers wife on tape getting fucked and ends the video with "who is fucking around now?"
I wish the military would tell men not to get married before they ship off. It's solidifies a highly likely chance you are gonna get cucked.
skoobled 10y ago
Why would they? Marriage institutionalises a guy. That's what they want
RedPillJohnny 10y ago
This was a scene in "Jarhead".
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theoctopuss 10y ago
That scene forever changed my opinion about women.
RedPillJohnny 10y ago
In retrospect me too...when I first saw it I wasn't really shocked and I didn't really understand or sympathize with the "distress" the soldier experienced nor did I expect it to even be worthy of a scene in the film...but it stuck with me and wouldn't go away...in fact other than the vaccination scene it is the only scene I now remember from that film...but now that I have educated myself up on the nature of women...holy fuck! Risking your ass over seas while your neighbour plows your wife's ass back at home...the very definition of dishonour.
RedCrayonWizard 10y ago
I've heard that in army basic, the DS's will pull all the males in a platoon into a room and announce that their relationships are over. If she hasn't cheated by the time you've arrived at basic, she will. I can't imagine that they haven't seen literally everything anyway.
If the Army wanted you to have a girlfriend, they'd have issued you one.
SleepNowMyThrowaway 10y ago
That's fucking gold, Jerry!
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bsutansalt 10y ago
I've been saying it for years that cheating on a military spouse should be criminalized again, especially if they're deployed.
The damage it does to the mission, unit cohesion, and the troop's mental state in a God damn fucking war zone is an extra special kind of infidelity deserving of zero benefits, custody, and IMO time behind bars because of the dire consequences this kind of cheating can cause.
Epicureanist 10y ago
that's ridiculous. burden of proof is way to high. at best cheating should on military should be zero benefits and a divorce w/o alimony.
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fuck_da_haes 10y ago
Winning hearts and minds, eh?
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thredditsowaway 10y ago
He's suggesting that men who are cheated on while deployed are prime recruitment targets for foreign spy agencies.
Imagine the country you literally kill for and risk your life for takes half of your stuff and gives it to your cheating wife. Are those the legal and moral values you want to uphold with your very life?
This is a serious problem with the Western legal system. We're just alienating otherwise good and honest men.
Edit: takes your stuff and your kids. Forgot about that, since I don't have any.
I_Am_My_Own_God 10y ago
They penalize the soldier for adultery. Severely. Same should go for the women.
bsutansalt 10y ago
Exactly. Granted spouses aren't responsible for upholding UCMJ, and in fact the military member can actually be held responsible for the crimes of the civilian spouse if the break the law on base. An example is a troop can be punished if his wife gets caught shoplifting at AAFES.
Seeing as all of that is already in place, I don't see any reason why we couldn't enact some reciprocal laws regarding adultery for those married to military members. Once upon a time adultery was illegal for everyone you know.
Lhtfoot 10y ago
Well stated... I would actually like to see this in civilian life, as well. I imagine you would see a sharp-drop in murders and domestic-violence. The average guy won't kill you for doing some of the most fucked up shit. But you fuck a guy's wife/girlfriend, beta or not, you might catch a bullet. We can talk TRP on this topic and try to do our own hamstring-away of the obvious, but the fact is, we all know this happens frequently... Many men will never be convinced that they should not marry, as OP suggests. It is as much a family-tradition to marry, as it is a cultural thing. And there is also the religious-element, to consider. Hence, even TRP-reading alphas can often find themselves married... What needs to happen is, incentive to break-up a house-hold/relationship needs to be eliminated. (Doesn't everyone now bitch about the 80% divorce-rate anyway?) Also, there should be incentive to marry and stay married. (Other than the "promises" of endless blow-jobs and no drama from your fiancé). I know TRP will likely hate these suggestions, but what are some others?
bsutansalt 10y ago
Removing the incentive to divorce is the #1 thing. If there's no promise or guarantee of cash & prizes, but rather complete fiscal and relationship ruin if you choose to divorce (for both parties rather than jsut men as it is today), you'd see divorce rates revert back to their pre no-fault divorce days in a matter of months.
This is where the men's rights stuff comes into play, such as presumption of equally shared custody. If women knew up front they're not getting a payday via child support, which this would mollify, then that's one less incentive to divorce to worry about. Another would be making CS payments actually based on the needs of the child rather than the wealth transfer system we have in place today. "Oh, you got knocked up by a rich athelete? Too bad, you still only get $500 a month in child support, AND he gets to see the kid 50% of the time." BOOM! problem solved.
Lhtfoot 10y ago
I love this response... I expected to get bashed. Thank you.
boscoist 10y ago
Spouses don't take the same oath and aren't subject to the same level of scrutiny while their partner serves.
darklogic420 10y ago
What is. What should be. These two things do not match up.
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Soldiers are punished by the uniform code of military justice. Something that civilians aren't subject too. That's why soldiers can be formally punished for adultery. I believe its article 93, I could be wrong though. Max punishment ? Fucking life in military prison. Albeit it is never used and if it is its no where near that. The most I've seen is 45 days extra duty.
I_Am_My_Own_God 10y ago
The way I see it, she married the man for his military benefits. Let her take the same vows as he does.
ChiefReap 10y ago
I think you're appealing to morality, u get banned now. If not, your views of legality are misguided
wiseclockcounter 10y ago
the state is interested in protecting its assets. If they weren't worried about molding men's minds into a disciplined team, they wouldn't pour the amount of money they do into training. Being left by the love of your life while away at war is directly destroying the strength of the team. Nothing moral about a realistic cost/benefit analysis.
ChiefReap 10y ago
Right, but I have no interest in helping the state. And I have no interest in helping someone that has a "love of their life" thousands of miles away. Betas and liberals are the ones that rush to criminalize things they don't like, not us.
bsutansalt 10y ago
If you're not in the military, or married to someone that is, then you've got nothing to worry about.
wiseclockcounter 10y ago
my comment isn't a justification, just an explanation of why it might be done.
smokingmonkey420 10y ago
Time behind bars? Exactly how are you supposed to justify that?
makethemsayayy 10y ago
It's borderline treasonous
smokingmonkey420 10y ago
Not unless she's sleeping with the enemy.
makethemsayayy 10y ago
She's fucking with the mind of a committed soldier and distracting him during combat for his country. At the very least she should get nothing in the divorce.
smokingmonkey420 10y ago
Getting nothing is reasonable. That would actually be a decent incentive for men to enlist and a disincentive for gold-digging hoes.
Assassin1476 10y ago
I was 19 when I wen't into the Army Infantry back in 2010. Majority of the Drill Sgt's were constantly telling us not to get married because a lot of them were former "Dear John's" themselves or seen it happen to their buddies in deployments; they all basically got fucked in the end and lost everything just like the man in this story. Even in Basic Training and AIT there were guys who were becoming "Dear Johns" themselves or hearing about how some Jody was back home nailing his chick. This was not happening to just a few guys, this was happening to A LOT of guys.
Luckily for me I had enough insight at that age to not go into the army with the idea of having any sort of girlfriend or relationship because I already knew of women and their true nature. Even still; the things you would hear about how some women would fuck over some of these guys were utterly shocking.
Buchloe 10y ago
Jody and that gosh darn Sancho
torchbearer101 10y ago
I too was 20 in 2010 when I went to Benning. E co 1/19
90% (Not an exaggeration) are now married/divorced
And I'm just sitting here banging 18 year olds in college. I tried my best to tell those poor suckers.
Nicholas_ 10y ago
"And I'm just sitting here banging 18 year olds in college. "
Living the dream!
Rufio0331 10y ago
Jody gave me a visit in 2011 when I was in Afghanistan. Mr. 38 year old doctor Jody stole my girl while I was stealing weapons and drugs from the Taliban. In hindsight, I rather have that story than her.
Assassin1476 10y ago
Exactly. Makes for a more interesting bar story to tell than some lame story about your chick that no one even really cares about to hear.
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vengefully_yours 10y ago
Jody was in my unit banging everything that moved with a set of tits on it back in 88. It goes way back. His real name was George, but nicknamed himself Jody because that's exactly what he did.
hikari-boulders 10y ago
Man, Jody's responsible for children born during WW2.
TheRedPilsner 10y ago
So basically, Jody is the US Military's equivalent of Chad Thundercock?
torchbearer101 10y ago
Indeed.
*Your baby was lonely, as lonely could be
Til Jody provided the company
Ain't it great to have a pal
Who works so hard just to keep up her morale
Sound off! / 1,2*
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hikari-boulders 10y ago
Not exactly. Chad Thundercock is alpha and bangs all the bitches in peacetime. During wartime Chad Thundercock would go abroad and bang the bitches there. Jody doesn't get drafted, stays at home and reaps the lonely women, so Jody is by design more of a beta buck.
kinklianekoff 10y ago
a BB that gets to have commitment free sex? It is a feminine name though, so I get it, he is the best available, but still a fucking pussy.
Rufio0331 10y ago
Jody isn't a BB at all, Jody is just an average joe looking to get his dick wet like everybody else.
plasticsleeper 10y ago
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^lord ^^pretty ^^^flacko ^^^^jody
romegas314 10y ago
I don't have a single friend in the military who hasn't gotten royally fucked by marriage. If I was SecDef or whatever, I'd do a bunch of WWII-type propaganda posters telling young men to protect themselves from the real enemy - marriage.
Hell, I'd chip in a few bucks to see some enterprising TRP'ller put those together.
RPMav 10y ago
Or even better, remove the incentive to getting married. Married service members have more pay, more benefits, more freedom in choosing where they live, more support resources when compared to a non-married member cohabitating.
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I have always said that the best way to handle the situation is to make cheating on a deployed soldier an actual crime punishable by real jail time.
Think about it. A soldier on duty already has to worry about losing his life and limbs, then you add in the extra distraction of an unfaithful spouse / monetary loss in the mix. This causes the soldier to become extremely unfocused and presents a danger to not only the soldier, but to his entire unit.
When a cheating spouse is confirmed she should be immediately jailed and have their joint assets frozen for the duration of the deployment. Then when the soldier returns home, he can confront her and know that his children and assets are safe.
Being on a deployment is maddening enough as it is. I can tell you this from experience.
vengefully_yours 10y ago
Yeah right. Here's the deal. In the eyes of the state a military man is unfit to be a parent. Had a former Marine judge say it point blank to me while fighting to get custody of my kids while she was in the mental ward for a suicide attempt. Additionally military men are assumed to be dangerous, violent, and abusive so there is a very slim chance anyone in the family Court system will ever do anything to support or protect military men.
This is shit I know first hand and by watching my subordinates deal with the same exact shit in different states. You're extra fucked if you're serving your country in the US family courts.
manwhowouldbeking 10y ago
http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/posters3/Propaganda_d.jpg ironically germans new whats up
rico_tubbs 10y ago
Now that's some grade A psychological warfare right there.
vengefully_yours 10y ago
Fuck, that's the truth right there.
Osoto_Gari 10y ago
If I were Iraqi / Afghani / Man of Middle Eastern appearance and wanted the infidel crusaders out of Dumbasfuckistan I’d be trolling the net for legit cheating spouse stories with references and use them for psychological warfare purposes.
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RedVillain 10y ago
We give a lot of shit to Disney for setting unrealistic expectations to our boys and girls, and Right fully so. I believe the expectations of the military can attack our young men even worse. They don't realize that most women love the uniform, not the man in uniform. We see the feel good stories of men coming home with missing limbs, their women supporting them (props to those women btw). They are the exceptions to the rule. A lot of girls are checked out of the commitment before their guy finishes basic training.
rossiFan 10y ago
It's true that Marines have always had the hottest ex-wives. Not sure why.
rlh1271 10y ago
It's probably because they get married when they're 18-19-20 and opt for divorce when they're still in their early 20's. It's definitely easier to be a "hot ex-wife" when you're significantly younger than non-military ex-wives.
Nicholas_ 10y ago
Probably because they're in phenomonal shape.
easyroscoe 10y ago
Devils advocate: we see pictures of those women supporting the guys without limbs because it's a photo op (ie: attention). I would love to see a study on how many of those women stick around after the limelight dies down.
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ztsmart 10y ago
Heh, it says she divorced him in 2008
Assassin1476 10y ago
Women love the IDEA/FANTASY of being with a man in uniform, sleeping with a man in uniform, being married to a man in uniform, being faithful to a man in uniform, supporting a man in uniform, than the actual REALITY of everything I just wrote.
Actually they love the idea of all this with any man period, then the actual reality of it.
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skoobled 10y ago
This is true of pretty much everything though. It's basically childish. You grow up and realise that a lot of things are much of a muchness. And that all pros have associated cons
Women often don't because their fantasising is pandered to
Six_Demon_Bag 10y ago
Reminds me of this unbearable girl -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5HXHPh5NcI
Her dozens and dozens of videos dedicated to the idea of being an army wife and dating a man in uniform. Looks like they are getting married soon. Anyone want to take bets with me on how long its going to take before the divorce?
nillotampoco 10y ago
Holy shit that dude she's engaged to needs to RUN.
Couldn't be more clear that she's super excited to date any West Point attendee not just him specifically.
wildmetacirclejerk 10y ago
She has the high test forehead of a woman that will cheat.
I was thinking about this lately, purely on looks which is better, conservative girls or liberal girls?
I'm excluding fat Sjw feminazis from this thought experiment.
Because if you look at hot conservative women for examplethe women on fox news, they all look like high test wide forehead hardbody man eaters, not meek sexy feminine women.
Similarly liberal women range from the super hot ig-im-feminist-but-not-in-my-mating-behaviours type girl who is eminently sexy but also a constant cheat risk, all the way to the typical fat 5 colours in her hair Sjw brigade.
I thought briefly maybe religious girl types are the answer, and while they may be good for child rearing, as far as bedding down is concerned I'm not 100% convinced.
Just opening up the question here as I really don't know the answer.
vengefully_yours 10y ago
The answer is simple.
DO NOT GET MARRIED.
Twice divorced Kuwait / Iraq veteran.
wildmetacirclejerk 10y ago
My sympathies, it's pretty normal for army vets to get shat on but when it's from within (I. E. the wife) It's absolutely devestating
trpdownunder 10y ago
kuwait? what the hell happened there and when did it happen? never knew any yankees ending up there?
CharlieIndiaShitlord 10y ago
Desert Shield, Desert Storm.
Sir_Shitlord_focker 10y ago
Saddam invaded an uncle Sam protected oil field.
vengefully_yours 10y ago
1990/91. I'm old, I have a chunk of the Berlin Wall too. A big chunk I knocked off one day in 89.
trpdownunder 10y ago
ah right. okay. I asked because I grew up there between 96-02.
jazhahndz71 10y ago
A "high test" woman? Women have damn near no test anyway. Unless you're talking about Iris Kyle or some shit, the difference between a high test and low test woman would be less than the hormone concentration fluctuations a man experiences over the course of a single day.
wildmetacirclejerk 10y ago
High test, for a woman, obviously not comparable to men.
wiseclockcounter 10y ago
i brought up this very thing in my psych class last year. Basically, I said we all may not be prepared to publicly admit it, but the facial features and overall bone structure of a person can tell us a lot about them. It's politically incorrect to judge a book by their cover, yet everyone fucking does it on a subconscious (and even conscious) level within literally a second of seeing someone. The amount of testosterone in someone's body affects their features and also their behavior. So we can judge what kind of person they are by the way they look. I think the class moments before was talking about why we have an innate fear of bugs and predator animals, then I ventured to apply what everyone was saying but to humans... the class's response? Pretty much just glazed over it. No discussion. Could mean anything, but it's definitely something you don't hear talked about too often.
Sorry for the reiteration, but yea I'm with you.
epixs 10y ago
Makes 100% sense. There is a direct correlation between high test and facial bone feature development. Obviously exogenous test won't fix that if you take it later, but it has been shown in embryonic stages. This is another reason why tren causes that look to the mandibular when run at extreme doses.
wildmetacirclejerk 10y ago
Absolutely agree with facial structure.
Lhtfoot 10y ago
I find this topic super-interesting... Do you have any articles that back this up? Or like a chart showing a comparison of features?
Anon_216 10y ago
It's called physiognomy.
Here's a link to very basic material:
http://brainchanger.com/chinesefacereading/
Here's a link to a shitty program that simulates different faces/personalty traits.
http://digital-physiognomy.findmysoft.com/
wildmetacirclejerk 10y ago
Very interesting, and while I don't think it's absolutely 100% true, I think it certainly gives a good idea of a person's personality.
Now with plastic surgery and stuff women are better able to hide their flawed nature from the public
wiseclockcounter 10y ago
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/02/060213093344.htm
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0081237
There's a whole bunch of articles and studies out there if you search "personality and physical features" or something like that, throw in the word "appraisal" and for some reason more scholarly articles come up. There are also a lot of spiritual mumbo jumbo blogs talking about astral bodies and shit.
But it all seems to agree with the intuition that different people have different essences. I think it's due to in-group breeding and the compounding social conventions between groups of people who look differently and treat each other accordingly. Thousands of years of this exclusivity can very easily change actual brain structure/chemistry. Some people are just weasely... others you can tell they're a certain type of person based on the hairline on the back of their neck. Chicks who have those pointier almond eyes- we all know these chicks- don't you get the sense that you're wary around them, like they're inherently capable of something to avoid?
Really interesting stuff indeed.
Lhtfoot 10y ago
Nice, thank you... It kinda seems like this science is in it's infancy. Do you feel like that is the case too? Also, what are your thoughts on how this relates to facial-recognition software?
Peglegbonesbailey 10y ago
The major problem with the way the military works when it comes to the cycle of endless junior enlisted marriages is the pay raise you get when you take on dependents, coupled with being about to move out of the barracks and live off base, it can be all to tempting. This pay bonus is, for some lower pay grades, twice their yearly base pay.
Thursday088 10y ago
No such thing as an 'ex Marine.'
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Squeezymypenisy 10y ago
No its the term. Ex is considered bad. You refer to them as former marines.
WAFC 10y ago
Yeah, but not Marines. They brainwash 'em real good at Parris Island.
TitsAndWhiskey 10y ago
Most of them. Because most of them wanted to be brainwashed.
my_redpill_account 10y ago
You got me curious, in what way?
WAFC 10y ago
Disclaimer: I was in the chAir Force, not the Marines...I wanted the money and benefits, not to be Uncle Sam's shield.
Every Marine I've ever met (starting with my uncle) has held the Marines in an almost religious regard in their mind. They truly internalize the message that they are disposable and the mission is all that matters. Marine basic training (and all basic trainings, but the Marines do it the best/most thoroughly from what I've seen among the various branches) is all about breaking you down to your core and then molding and rebuilding you as a bullet sponge.
This is great for building a cohesive fighting unit, but shit for producing human beings that will contribute to a society in any way other than murdering undesirables (hence a lot of them go into law enforcement post-military).
I don't know any other comparison that fits other than it's very much like a cult.
I think this is one of the main reasons women seek out military men. They already view themselves as disposable and will put up with a LOT of bullshit from a woman they 'love.' Plus the money is guaranteed to the point that it's almost better for her if he dies in combat somewhere.
foldpak111 10y ago
It's sad how these guys fall for the narrative. They eat it with a fuckin spoon then get eaten alive by the economy because no one gives a fuck about the troops.
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vengefully_yours 10y ago
It's also the losers who couldn't score high enough on the ASVAB to get in, but want to play Navy SEAL or Delta Force Airborne Ranger, like glorified mall cops. Enough gear for two weeks to knock down a door and be onsite for 30 minutes, they want to play military hero.
RPAlternate42 10y ago
"Brainwash" is civilian speak for "indoctrination," or, training in such a fundamental way as to change the way one deals with every situation through the lens of that training.
my_redpill_account 10y ago
Oh okay, I thought there was some different meaning behind it. Thanks
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RPAlternate42 10y ago
Brainwash has a nefarious connotation. Recruit training trains you to be able to be trained as a marine. It's like marine training 101: an introduction to indoctrination indoctrination;or for you programmer nerds: recruit training is assembly language for the main program.
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1NV0K3R 10y ago
Women love a man in uniform.
My uniform right now consists of jeans and a t-shirt.
Don't let it fool you boys.
dontdrinkthekoolade 10y ago
Being military, stories like this always get me heated again.
It's sickening to think of what that guy went through. You can be the most AlphaMcAlphaness Man in the world, won't matter much when you're getting fucking bamboo shoved up your finger nails.
edit: Notice that this happened in 1973, AWALT doesn't change.
romegas314 10y ago
Yeah - one of the good things about TRP is that it discusses this stuff through the lens of biological imperatives. Those don't change, be it 2015 or 1973 or 1500 B.C.
I also made a small edit to point out that the $136k was actually closer to $750k in modern purchasing power. That's a lot of cheddar.
wanderer779 10y ago
The good thing about TRP is that these things get discussed at all. These stories are never discussed in the mainstream media.
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And this sub likes to perpetuate the idea that women aren't evil.only a despicable cunt would behave like that,man or woman.its just that women are the ones who indulge in this sick behaviour
wanderer779 10y ago
I look at it like everyone is as bad as they can get away with being. The thing to do is to change the law. You want to leave your man and destroy your family for no reason? Fine, we are free people and no one can stop you. But you don't get shit other than maybe a couple thousand to haul away your shit and put down a deposit on an apartment. And that is being generous to a woman who decides to destroy her family.
Dr_Shakalu22 10y ago
That's too generous. She shouldn't even get that.
vengefully_yours 10y ago
Ah but she gets everything the taxes don't get from his pay, the kids get free medical that she won't utilize because she can get more cash if she doesn't. The state will help her keep the father away from the kids because he's a dangerous violent war vet like Rambo.
She gets rewarded for being a useless cunt, he ends up homeless while active duty.
zpatriarchy 10y ago
they aren't. that's just who they are. that's what they are like. there is no princesss unicorn who wouldn't do this. they all would. AWALT.
Nicholas_ 10y ago
Nah, unicorns do exist, but as I say they're unicorns for a reason.
I'd honestly say 1 in 100,000 is a unicorn and that's being generous.
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Nicholas_ 10y ago
Out of 50 girls I've been in contact with intimately, I'd say 2 of them were real marriage material and were "good girls".
I was like 17 at the time when I dated both of these girls in a year, stupid as I was I brushed them off because they were from very conservative backgrounds, but in hindsight they caused zero drama, were very respectful and were all 'round great people.
Nowadays however... bitches are just obese and entitled.
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Nicholas_ 10y ago
Lolol they eat apples picked straight from the ground
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Derbi50 10y ago
Australian girls LOVE American men and some of them are hot, especially if you are into redheads like me.
dontdrinkthekoolade 10y ago
Ahhh sounds about right, good old NAS Pensacola. Those 9 month deployments are no joke; hopefully Norfolk wasn't too bad for your first duty station out of school.
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boscoist 10y ago
Care to elaborate? I've been seriously contemplating ditching my ENG civies for some Wings, likely with USAF. I've got the chops, easy.
vengefully_yours 10y ago
Have fun in the C17 unless someone really really likes you.
boscoist 10y ago
balls.. Wait you're not the guy i asked
vengefully_yours 10y ago
Nope, but many a stellar engineer flies cargo.
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RPthrowaway123 10y ago
I've seen this story before. It never fails to get my hackles up. She fucked him over, and was fucking rewarded for it by a corrupt system that rewards her cowardice and whoring, rather than his service.
foldpak111 10y ago
That's why military service is stupid. Why anyone would want to protect our government is beyond me.
Polaris382 10y ago
Yep, all the rewards SHE gets (and being let off the hook for all that POW money) is far more infuriating than her cheating. I just dont understand how anyone can even begin to justify that level of absurdity...and as well know this kind of fuckery is very common.
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romegas314 10y ago
Yeah, it's tough to see. Really shocked me how bad things were, justice-system wise, even in 1973.
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Derbi50 10y ago
I think that whole, "Nam vets were spit on" thing is pretty much an urban legend.
True they didn't get parades and recognition the way the WWII guys did, but no one thought that the war was the fault of drafted fighting man or blamed him in anyway for the shit that went down in the bush.
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Derbi50 10y ago
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/04/30/debunking_a_spitting_image/
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Derbi50 10y ago
You wont get an argument from me on those in power using up and throwing away vets like flashlight batteries.
My comment wasn't about that, it was about the fact that there was never a single instance of a Nam vet being spit on, even though its an oft repeated story.
The men who profit from wars have always treated the actual war fighter like shit.
But this narrative that somehow there were hippies spitting on vets is completely made up.
90% of Nam vets surveyed reported a welcoming homecoming. It wasn't until decades later they started making up the stories of being spit on as a quick and easy way to describe the feeling of abandonment they felt because of the lack of opportunities and support they got from society.
I mean seriously, do you think a grizzled combat vet would allow some longhaired hippy to spit in his face? Never. That kid would have been burger and it would have been all over the news.
It simply did not happen.
renzy77 10y ago
Unsurprisingly at least one of the daughters manages to portray her mother as the real victim here:
No matter how odious a woman's behavior is, there is literally always some way people will find to rationalize, excuse or justify it.
hirjd 10y ago
I thought the whole point of this sub is that it's her nature. According to AWALT. Is the ocean justified in sinking ships?
skoobled 10y ago
Must've been tough... Making all those sandwiches... Like having bamboo inserted under your fingernails
romegas314 10y ago
A thought just occurred to me. Of all of the creatures that are set forth in Homer's Odyssey -- cyclops, witches, sirens, sea monsters, gods -- none are as fantastical as Penelope, who kept faithful while waiting for her husband to return for 20 years.
RunawayGrain 10y ago
Except that some of the texts state that he found she had cheated on him and she was exiled to Mantineia as a result. The other legend is that she variously cheated with any or all of the suitors, the god Apollo and or Artemus to produce Pan.
http://www.maicar.com/GML/Penelope.html
Baylien2 10y ago
Not even the chick from Castaway was that faithful.
curveball21 10y ago
In all fairness, she and everyone else believed Tom Hanks' character was dead.
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let_terror_reign 10y ago
Tbf none of them measured up in any way to Ulysses.
What if they had?
Epicureanist 10y ago
Odysseus* But you are very right. If some demigod flew down whilst Odysseus was gone, she'd have a new husband.
let_terror_reign 10y ago
It's the same person, right. Ulysses in the Iliad was called Odysseus because he took on the odyssey.
kempff 10y ago
Quite the counterpoint to Helen, who started it all.
TheThingsIThink 10y ago
I'm giving Helen a break she didn't have any agency. Paris straight up kidnapped her, and after her rapist-ist husband died she was betrothed to his brother. She was happy and true to Menelaus once she was rescued.
hectortamerofwhores 10y ago
I don't remember reading it that way; the Illiad and the Odysee both kind of implied she was acting (to some degree) of her own volition.
TheThingsIThink 10y ago
I kinda feel she was going with the flow because what the fuck else was she going to do. I haven't read the book in about 20 years but I'm faro more critical of Ryder's portrayal of Mina in Bram Stoker's Dracula. That girl was just loyal to whomever was next to her.
hectortamerofwhores 10y ago
Well yeah, but Victorian England was fucked up on a multitude of levels; I mean, the women of that time were basically born and bread to be unthinking lapdogs whose soul purpose was to breed and be seen. So, while I agree Mina gave off a dumb/helpless bitch vibe, I can't say I'm surprised she never became anything more than what she was bred and brainwashed to be.
MicroMinion 10y ago
This is what he protected and served.
favours_of_the_moon 10y ago
Is there ANYTHING on the planet for which a woman is not rewarded?
MagicGainbow 10y ago
I'm not surprised but amazed the Air force didn't make her pay back all the money she spent on lovers.
monsieurhire2 10y ago
The troops are nothing more than expendable pawns to be moved around the chess board. The military, as an institution, would rather ALL the troops die instantly upon immediate fulfillment of purpose with no further use available; it would be the maximum possible arbitrage. There are always fresh recruits constantly being born and growing up to be ready for service. There are no shortage of men eligible for the military; many of them are rotting in prisons.
Anyway, if a troop survives, he and his family have to be paid. But being paid free of having to spend his time frees him up to be a politically active, and a potential nuisance. So much the better if he gets hamstrung by having his pay swindled away from him through some technicality. The objective is to minimize the number of men, especially military men (who have less illusions about the role of violence in the world) as political actors.
After World War II, many returning GIs were able to successfully organize reforms from the political system; their negotiating power came from a tacit threat to use force. Think about it: you survive a fucking war, you kill lots of men, you bond with other killers, then you return home, and some sleazeball politicians and capitalists try and boss you around for chump change?
Derbi50 10y ago
So very true.
I think Eisenhowers "Beware the military industrial complex" speech embodied the above statement perfectly.
Monty_Brogan 10y ago
I'm not going to address your pawn statement -being a former 0331 combat vet, I'm just not in the mood. But your statement below is laughable.
Really?
http://www.politifact.com/rhode-island/statements/2014/mar/02/bing-west/author-bing-west-says-seventy-five-percent-young-a/
Think again.
boscoist 10y ago
i have 2 things for this:
you're absolutely right.
monsieurhire2 10y ago
Additionally:
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/218473-military-men-are-just-dumb-stupid-animals-to-be-used
“Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.” - Henry Kissinger.
I don't agree with the the "dumb, stupid animals" part. That's completely unfair, because many are practically children who have been institutionalized their whole lives in public schools and completely brainwashed. They are children. All they know is what their elder's tell them, for the most part. And that is why I agree with the pawns part. You can be a genius and still be a pawn because key pieces of information are hidden from you.
foldpak111 10y ago
I was going to join but they wouldn't let me because I dropped out of high school. I was making 90,000 @ age 15 so whose the real loser haha
monsieurhire2 10y ago
Lol. Come on man, it's nothing personal. When I say pawn, I don't mean idiot, I merely mean vis a vis the people at the apex of society, the billionaires and their managerial assistants, who have insane amounts of power, we're ALL pawns to one degree or another. Is the consumer any less a pawn with his restricted choices at the supermarket? Or anyone who has a "job." Don't feel bad.
People were saying the same shit prior to WWII. Americans were weak-minded, hedonistic, drug-using, jazz-listening mongrels with no warrior tradition. And then the US stomped the shit out of the Nazis and Imperial Japan, coming in at just the right time, after both powers were sufficiently weakened.
Here are two things to consider:
Young people are highly adaptable. Sure, they many may not be in the best of shape, but many COULD be shaped up. All they would have to do would be to declare an emergency, scare the living fuck out of people, reinstitute the draft, and put the young people through the same grueling time-tested regimens that have worked in the past. This is a country of 350 million plus people, so there are plenty of young folks to draw from. Sure, some will keel over and die, but others will adapt and become hardened warriors. I can tell you that when I was 21 and decided to clean up my act, it took me exactly 3 months to go from skinny-fat dope-smoker to muscular in shape dude, and I'm not exactly the best physical specimen. There are people with serious drug and alcohol problems who are superb athletes.
Anyway, don't take the criticism of the institution personally. I just hate seeing guys who risk their lives get fucked over AFTER they survive doing their duty, and by their own governments and civilians that they were serving.
italian_mobking 10y ago
I've been saying this about war games for the last 5-7 years. Any one of us can clear into a room with just video game experience, imagine adding proper hands-on experience and you can train legions quickly and efficiently since they already have some of the basic fundamentals down.
bakbakgoesherthroat 10y ago
yeah but the WWII generation raised baby boomers, who ruined it for generation x and millennials
alcoholicthrowaway45 10y ago
Yep. Greatest Generation my fucking ass. They raised a generation of entitled pricks.
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Oh enough of this bullshit. May as well blame cavemen for all our problems.
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I'm not going to argue with you. I'm just going to say that pinning all our problems on our parents generation is an oversimplification and a cheap scape goat.
Theebenedetto 10y ago
Oh look, you're being a douche on other subreddits as well! Surprise surprise!
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Jesus Christ you're pathetic. You have to follow me around replying to every post I make now?
Theebenedetto 10y ago
Jesus Christ is pathetic? So you believe in magic as well, huh?
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RPMav 10y ago
Only because it serves their interests. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DShDaJXK5qo
Baylien2 10y ago
There's a yin and a yang to everything, including the military.
wont_tell_i_refuse 10y ago
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html#c1
monsieurhire2 10y ago
Lol, come on bro. "A lot of good for a lot of men." You must be referring to the people at the apex of society, since they are the prime beneficiaries. For instance, all the shareholders of all the major defense contractors have done quite well for themselves. Check their stock charts to confirm that.
But what about all the men who are killed or maimed? What about the men who have their minds destroyed.
Read "War is a Racket" by Smedley Butler. He won the Congressional Medal of Honor . . . twice, was a general, led men into battle. He actually has unimpeachable authority on the issue. Also, the older men in my family who served said it was a bunch of bullshit and there were better ways to reach my goals. That was based off their experience.
Also, let's not forget about the Bonus Army and how they got fucked.
Notice, I'm not talking about individuals, I'm talking about the institution and the people behind it, and their aims and goals.
Sure, you can say "The army does a lot of good! It disciplines and organizes men, makes them strong!" Sure, but only to accomplish nefarious aims for other people. It's no gift. It's an exchange, and a shitty one at that. You want to get strong? Read some books and do some push-ups. Subject yourself to deprivation. Resolve to live a Spartan, monastic life. You don't need the military to do that for you.
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Squeezymypenisy 10y ago
At the most the military can help you get college money so you can get schooling for largely nothing. Otherwise I used to be like the guy who commented, I am not shitting on veterans, but the military will use you up and spit you out.
monsieurhire2 10y ago
Yeah, but you have to be careful with anything like that, because they will bait and switch you. You have to lawyer up and get everything in writing. Caveat emptor. I'm not going to shit on people who risk their necks. Many are in it because they feel they have no choice, or because a bunch of pressures were brought to bear on them, like they fucked up and were looking at either jail or the military. More are in it because they digested a bunch of propaganda designed to appeal to them.
Squeezymypenisy 10y ago
I'll be honest I have never heard of the real life example of jail or the military option. Maybe in the surge, but nowadays they definitely have no need for someone like that. Social pressure and propaganda definitely. In the South it is difficult to have any attitude against the military. Especially in Texas.
monsieurhire2 10y ago
I met someone who was an active augmentee from the Navy doing Army work. He got into a fight right after high school and was given the choice. I was not that surprised, since I was familiar with the practice dating back to the British Empire, although I'm sure it probably goes back further.
Noveno 10y ago
This makes me soooooooooooooo angry
redpillcynic 10y ago
I meticulously plan a murder for that charming wife if I were him.
Rufio0331 10y ago
As a Veteran, we refer to this as getting a visit from "Jodie" because it happens to 4 out of 5 vets when they are deployed. In 2011 this happened to me while I was serving in Afghanistan, LTR of 3 years cheated on me with a doctor whom she worked in the same hospital with. I was considering marrying her too, but while I was shooting the Taliban, some 38 year old was shooting all over her face. (we were both 22 at the time)
plentyoffishes 10y ago
Happens all the time in the military. Men cheat, women cheat, it's a horrible idea to get married, an even more horrible idea to chose a career in the military, and just sheer stupidity to think that women, or men, will be "faithful" when they're apart for months at a time with no contact.
Ohmyqueef 10y ago
Let that be a lesson to some of the newcomers here to TRP. A-Fucking-WALT. When that man's life was in danger, when he was captured and made destitute by the enemy, and brought immense dishonor in his enemy's captivity; his wife, was out fucking and sucking other men, and using the pension of his fucking Prisoner Status to do it! What the fuck is that shit!
I believe they have a saying in America: "Jody Boy's fucking your wife, and your paying for it out of your ass. I've heard somebody say this, not sure where, or if this is an actual phrase you guys use, but it stands nonetheless.
Women are not loyal, at least as far as you guys and I are concerned. I advise each and every guy here who's in the military or coming out of it (even if you aren't) to research the life of American army Major Dick Winters, WW2-era. Guy was the definition of frame-control. Even though he had women on his back he never committed to them, because he saw them as a burden on the brain in combat. A man should be focused on the task at hand when his life is on the line, not worrying about some woman back home, daydreaming about her, too scared to stand up and shoot back because he might get killed and never see her again.
Doctor_Mayhem 10y ago
Oh shit. Dick Winters? Band of Brothers? Yeah, he's a Red Pill superhero.
http://www.artofmanliness.com/2015/06/05/the-way-of-the-monastic-warrior-lessons-from-major-dick-winters/
theoctopuss 10y ago
Most of the guys in Easy Company were fucking badasses.
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Rougepellet 10y ago
I can understand the cheating part. I mean if In his shoes with a wife and I was gone that long, she is most likely fucking another man, AWALT. Using his POW allotment for vacationing though... Shows how little women really care for men, even their own husband. AWALT again I guess.
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Of all the AWALT, Don't get married reminders...this one hits the hardest.
Ojisan1 10y ago
That's just brutal. Both the torture at the hands of the Viet Cong, and the callousness of the wife. Amazing.
thinktankman 10y ago
What is funny about the picture is the fact that the girl is the reason why it's so famous. She put on the greatest act of welcoming him home
ponylies 10y ago
I had a friend/former brother in arms get back from Afghanistan in November. Got married before he left, and guess what? Found out last weekend she cheated on him while he was gone. Despite they are still together... AWALT...
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daballer2005 10y ago
Protip: Don't leave your girl for months on end. There's a 99.5% chance she will stray.
trphardmode 10y ago
Protip: Don't get captured by the Vietcong.
vengefully_yours 10y ago
Reality: She will fuck around even when you're not deployed, just on duty.
bakbakgoesherthroat 10y ago
That's terrible advice. You're recommending that men should mate-guard their SOs like dogs. Better advice is to avoid emotional attachments with women all together and spin plates instead.
If you want someone loyal in your life, get a pup.
Newdist2 10y ago
"like dogs" is a bit of an exaggeration, but historically... yes, men who were invested in their women mated-guarded them seriously, because committing to a woman who fucks other men is evolutionary suicide.
Somewhere along the line, men invented civilization to mate-guard their women for them when they weren't around. And by "civilization" I mean "stoning adulterers".
It was a good system while it lasted.
theoctopuss 10y ago
I've had this sentiment even since high school. It was my second or third girlfriend, but I would get this strange sensation in my chest when I wasn't around her, watching her. I only felt that way when I was in a relationship, and only towards the girl.
That feeling hasn't gone away since. I haven't been in a monogamous, committed relationship in almost 4 years. My last girlfriend was when I had just graduated from college. Spinning plates, though, is a different story.
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wanderer779 10y ago
what if you want to have kids?
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Start a religious cult and have a harem.
bakbakgoesherthroat 10y ago
This isn't the right country for it.
StManTiS 10y ago
It's funny to me how the most patriarchal countries are the most fertile yet we bitch about birth rates and retirements and then move farther from it.
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Overkillengine 10y ago
That and the average man would have to learn to refuse to enable "bad" behavior in women.
Which can go counter to getting laid as often as possible.
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wanderer779 10y ago
Yeah you are right about that
bakbakgoesherthroat 10y ago
It's not something I want to be right about. I'd love to have a family of my own one day with good kids and a loyal wife but this is no longer possible in our times, unless you want to risk having your kids get taken away and your wife gouging out 2/3 of your assets.
metalhead4 10y ago
One argument and the bitch dumps you then gets her pussy filled on tinder.
GSstreetfighter 10y ago
70% here in Queensland. 50/50 plus an extra 10% for each kid.
bakbakgoesherthroat 10y ago
I'm guessing that the birth rates are low as well?
GSstreetfighter 10y ago
For many years, the gov't offered a $5000 baby bonus to prod the birth rate. Mine were born in Maryland, so I missed out. I married a very attractive Aussie, then emigrated here nine years later. Her hormones kicked in at thirty, she even got a peach fuzz mustache, and had an affair with a "friend". She even boned her best friend's husband. Not the same girl I married.
deepfriedcocaine 10y ago
That's what sperm banks are for
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wanderer779 10y ago
true but I already knew that and we weren't discussing whether to get married.
NimbleStorm 10y ago
Don't need a marriage contract to make a baby
wanderer779 10y ago
but you kind of do need a LTR with a woman to have a baby, unless you just want to fuck and run like a damn reptile
Grasshopper21 10y ago
The thought that just went through my brain was that men should get uniform full body reptile tattoos so that they couldn't be identified from one another. Lizard Bros unite. I am Spartacus.
It's been a long day...
NimbleStorm 10y ago
Get donor eggs. Sure it's expensive, but probably cheaper, financially and emotionally, than divorce rape.
Ideally you would have a baby with your LTR without getting married. Although she could still bail with your kid and child support, it's still keeping your losses to a minimum.
cariboo_j 10y ago
Why? I never got what's so great about having kids.
Babies are awful. 5 year olds are awful. 12 year olds are awful. Teenagers are awful and will crash your car.
If you're LUCKY they move out around 18-20, get on with their lives and visit maybe once or twice a month.
Kids are like little, selfish shitty adults. If you work hard to train them, sometimes they get better. Sometimes.
Other people's kids are the WORST. My cousins are starting to have kids and I can't stand them. The only difference is when they are yours, your brain goes into autopilot and tricks you into thinking they're cute. They're not.
wanderer779 10y ago
damn dude. I actually love kids but to each his own.
cariboo_j 10y ago
Ha that came out extreme. I've worked with kids teaching various sports all through high school / university... but I don't know.
It just doesn't seem that appealing to be tied to one for 18 years. Most of the people at my work who have little kids seem pretty stressed and miserable. Especially with western parenting expectations of keeping them supervised/entertained 24/7. And there's no guarantee they'll turn out like you hoped. My parents are good people, but we have zero in common. If we were strangers that happened to meet, we probably wouldn't become friends...
If kids were so great, we wouldn't see the birth rate plummeting like it is.
wanderer779 10y ago
yeah I feel like I'm the opposite of TRP in this regard. Most the people on here talk about staying child free and dating a lot of women at once. I look at women as being something you put up with in exchange for children, so spinning plates sounds like a lot of work for no reward to me. If I didn't want kids I'd probably just get an escort every now and then rather than chase women. There are a lot of other things I could do with my time that are more enjoyable.
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moose_war 10y ago
I will probably get downvoted for this, but there are men that leave their wives for younger women all the time, like that teacher in California. The only difference is that when women do it, it's some "spiritual journey" or "what the heart wants" or whatever, but any time a man does it, he's a dirty old lech pedofile, etc.
I think with this type of situation, it's too easy to ignore that retarded men do this shit to their families too, it's just that more often than not, women get away with it and continue to live a charmed life.
QuantifiedDisgust 10y ago
God damnit that hurt to read. Thanks for reminding me what happens to the men who make that mistake.
wanderer779 10y ago
Another lesson: try not to get mad about it, or if you do, direct your anger at the government and laws which can be changed, instead of at women who can't.
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StManTiS 10y ago
I'm sure if he was found she would play the victim and claim to be soooooo sorry.
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GoatwithHorns 10y ago
In some ways it's fortunate that I've never been attractive or loaded enough to attract a woman for marriage. Shit like this makes me content with self improvment, myself, escorts and life without marriage.
AyyLMAOistRevolution 10y ago
You ain't so fortunate, son.
metalhead4 10y ago
It ain't me, it ain't meee, I ain't no senators son
gregd28 10y ago
His life doesn't sound so bad to me, bro.
nuesuh 10y ago
"Women have always been the primary victims of war." - Hillary Clinton
Yeah, must suck to be a woman. Life is so unfair.
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denmaur 10y ago
Dodging bullets in heels ain't easy.
NidStyles 10y ago
That's sperm cupcake, bullets actually hurt when they hit you.
denmaur 10y ago
I'm not sure I follow you but I was referring to her Bosnia adventure.
NidStyles 10y ago
I was telling a joke, calm down.
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I always see "Women are different from how they used to be".
This is not the case at all. AFBB has always been a thing. It's just that we're just now bringing it into the light.
Limekill 10y ago
Society used to put massive pressure on wives not to do this.
Now we have ads encouraging it (MadisonAshley).
Women are the same, however society was different - thats why it wasn't visible.
pnw_diver 10y ago
Relying totally on a woman or believing in her fully are both Fools' Errands.
wanderer779 10y ago
the wife here is one of the victims of war Hillary was talking about. Just awful what happened to her.
renzy77 10y ago
"Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat. Women often have to flee from the only homes they have ever known. Women are often the refugees from conflict and sometimes, more frequently in today’s warfare, victims. Women are often left with the responsibility, alone, of raising the children." -- Hillary Clinton
Read the OPs story followed by the Hillary Clinton quote if you want to understand just how little women and society care about you as a man. You can get killed, maimed, tortured for years in a POW camp, etc. and they will still find away to make it all about them.
kempff 10y ago
It is said that Moses allowed divorce to prevent uxoricide. The older I get, the more I understand why.
CleverNeologism 10y ago
Damn... that's an obscure one. Nice.
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save_the_rocks 10y ago
Interesting post to read the day after fathers' day.
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snakehayter 10y ago
This has to be the most painful way to unplug, imagine being a pow and the only thing getting you through torture is the thought of your wife and children's faces, just so you can come home to a cheating whore stealing your money.
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trpdownunder 10y ago
putin is stoking the fire once again. Dont worry, they'll get another chance
boscoist 10y ago
what would he have of true value? codes change constantly, he was a colonel but objectives and dispositions changed frequently too. He didn't have valuable enough information to bother with imo.
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RoadToOneFifty 10y ago
Military wives are massive whores. I thought this was already common knowledge. They pressure their bluepill-masquerading-as-redpill warrior to marry them right before deployement. Meanwhile, she's back on base riding cocks like it's the last day on Earth. If he gets killed, she gets his benefits. If he finds out, out comes the hamster. "I was lonely. I wouldn't have gotten mad if I was gone for 18 months and you found a woman" (of course, that's a lie but she'll say it to guilttrip the cuckolded husband)
P.S. no...not AWALT in this case. Military wives are even worse than the average woman. Only wives of millionaire celebrities/businessman are more entitled/spoiled.
foldpak111 10y ago
Stung by his wife's lawsuit, he countered with evidence that she'd been unfaithful. "Mrs. Stirm was...human," her lawyer admitted. "It was not unusual for POW wives to become emotionally involved with others during the absence of their husbands."
I'm done.
Denswend 10y ago
Scouring through PPD I saw a thread decrying TRP for being offensive. Pretty standard jab, they took the Girl on TwoXChromosomes continues hooking up with "an inconsiderate, disgusting douchebag" for 3 years straight. Hamsters ahoy! and ran everything they could to make us look as evil woman hating extremists. Things like not agreeing with woman by default and second guessing what she says. Pretty standard spiel of "TRP EXPLAIN URSELF" when the content is not even that bad.
Yet this thread is the currently on top, and arguably more visible than that thread.
There are people here, in your country, on this very internet, that call themselves men, and search this very place to find things that outrage them. And they overlooked this thread. They overlooked the story of a man who spent 5 years in Vietcong camp, while his wife rode another man's dick with her hubby's money to find something that they can construct in their precious minds as hateful and extremist towards women cause the engine of entire civilization, straight white men, suck. Reading this, you cannot possible become anything but angry. Hell, if you read this, and are absolutely outraged, it's a good sign - sign that you're still sane. I cannot possible imagine someone being an apologist for this system, yet there are people who shove this kind of things under the carpet so that they can complain about random things that made a random woman vaguely not so good. And this kind of hypocritical evil comes only from women, and feminized men.
This reminds me of a story from my high school. We were reading this one book for Literature. The plot line is as follows :
At the end of the story, teacher asks with a smug face "Do you think women are equal now?".
A story of a man who spent 8 years in Soviet prison while his wife pranced around with bunch of suitors, who comes back to see his wife going back from a date, who is outraged for no good reason, who gets killed by his wife when he didn't even lay a finger on her, and the hero is supposed to be a woman.
And women, mostly agreed.
See, unlike men, women actually treat all men as objects. All women. Some are more open, some are less so. A woman may love her husband, her son, her father or brother, but she will hate the male sex as a whole. We are not people of flesh and blood to them, not persons of our of thoughts and feelings, we're not even animals they consider cute. With the same cutesy face that they demand their equality with, they will send young men into slaughter. For equality you see.
Of course, call a spade a spade and they will backpedal as fast as they can - they cannot afford to lose their moral supremacy by showing just who they are, so they will apologize profusely but plant a seed of hatred against you in the back of their mind.
So next time you see feminists or even average women clamoring about this grand conspiracy of women haters, of this immense hatred that the average man has for the precious and innocent women - remember that women are prone to projecting more than men.
jquest23 10y ago
"Woman are more prone to projecting then men" great and true statement. I've been grasping at this concept and you said it perfectly!
MHOOD01 10y ago
Of course they passed up on this thread. It's a pick and choose on what they can spin and make it look like something it's not.
I think it's best if some people here stop posting threads about the places that you mentioned, we already know they are full of shit. Just let them fade away and let them bring us more followers when they mention this sub.
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I've been lurking here for about a month, and everything has just brought me to the conclusion that life would have hit me with eventually. I have a good number of friends in the navy, army, coast guard and hope that they've unplugged as well. daily reminders of how ruthless woman can be (and how fucked the system is) are like an exercise in endurance, and no matter how much it's painful to read about the other option is 1000 times worse.
ResoIve 10y ago
Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
osman300 10y ago
This is fucking sad. These men sacrificed themselves and bring resources back to their country, and this is what society hand them. Taking their kids and 50% of the wealth away.
Lesson Learned: *Dont sacrifice your wealth ,your health and your life for causes that society enforce upon you. e.g enforced listing in a war, raising someone else kids, or marrying because society/religion say so e.t.c
foldpak111 10y ago
Lesson learned: don't join the military.
Baylien2 10y ago
Best comment. Don't be a tool of women, the government, corporations etc.
darkrood 10y ago
Not trying to insult military, but isn't building "instrument for the war" (i.e tool) the purpose for the institution of military?
I mean, they certainly don't want bunch of strong, disciplined guys with no control buttons.
Overkillengine 10y ago
Some people don't realize or care that anarchy is their 6th grade gym class when the teacher is away....and that there is always a bigger kid.
osman300 10y ago
I disagree with most of the wars, but primary objective of most wars are to bring back resources to aggressors country, same resources that feed women and children. All these war against Muslims was & is for resources, not to destroy "weapon of mass destruction" or remove "dictators".
darkrood 10y ago
The majority of the resources certainly did not end up to feed the majority. I certainly don't think typical soldiers' family members reap the benefit from the war as much as the defense companies that got billion dollar contracts up front.
osman300 10y ago
I agree. Weapons have made more millionaires in America than any other business. One f-16 is sold at $170 million to third world countries, and everyone uses american weapons , from ISIS to rebels in Uganda.
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1973 man, that was in '73 before the internet and online dating.
Marrying today is more stupid than in '73. My plate's girlfriends are ALL getting married for papers. All of them. That's how they see it. As a business deal which it is. Men if you wants kids raise them yourself with a modest woman from south america. Yes it's not the perfect American family portrait but it will be more stable than a white Americunt.
Life_Can_Be_Simple 10y ago
Not just White but any Western raised woman.
theoctopuss 10y ago
I would even throw women that weren't raised western, then relocated to the US or something.
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Nicholas_ 10y ago
What's your life like on a daily basis?
This is coming from a guy who grew up very poor and is still struggling (at university btw). I always wondered what life could be like if my parents were filthy stinking rich, it would make an amazing safety net - but unfortunately I don't have that.
Assassin1476 10y ago
If you do any of that, stay in Brazil or somewhere you can't get divorced rape and all that other crazy nonsense that happens here. Like Eddie Murphy said in his stand up, he got some African bush bitch because American women are shitty and eventually after being in America with American women and learning English....."HALF! I WANT HALF EDDIE!"
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"I see you on television. You are the fuck-you man. Fuck you Eddie."
GainzdalfTheWhey 10y ago
You can't get divorce raped in Brazil? I live here but i'm not sure how it works.
PedroIsWatching 10y ago
Hard to believe that standup was 30 years ago, 90% of it is still completely relevant today. Check out George Carlin's Class Clown for another timeless comedy album. I remember hearing his bits about the Vietnam War and thinking that with a quick word substitution, all of it still applied to current conflicts.
denmaur 10y ago
Another good one is Sam Kinison talking about marriage and women.
vadangelo 10y ago
Dude, there is divorce rape in Brazil. No fucking fantasy down here.
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Assassin1476 10y ago
That's what I figured. More of the reason why I said somewhere else because I heard Brazil was getting pretty bad with the feminism down there. I seen this video on Youtube where this one guy was atop a hill talking major shit to a large crowd of female feminist and they were all screaming at him. Eventually by the end of the video, he had to run away because they were trying to swarm him like the World War Z zombies.
MHOOD01 10y ago
Haha! That guy flashed his dick at their bullshit feminist movement.
You see that lady swinging her bag trying to hit him? What a goofy bitch.
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Sounds like a great movie waiting to happend, replace zombies with feminists
redpilldiscourse 10y ago
Ya, know? We need a zombie survival game where the zombies are replaced with feminists....
BlackHeart89 10y ago
Goddamn. A lot of "don't get married posts are coming up lately". Maybe there should be a Don't get Married Mondays...?
Seems pretty straight forward to me. There is absolutely no benefit in getting married or a man. It adds absolutely nothing to your life except risks. If a woman doesn't understand that and decides to leave, then she either plans on making you BB and fucking you over sometime in the future or she's too pressured by her family and friends to do some bullshit, which at the end of the day, isn't a good thing for the relationship anyway. Very simple concept.
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MattyAnon Admin 10y ago
The only way to vet how she'll be behave when you're not there for four years is to not be there for four years.
zpatriarchy 10y ago
wrong.
AWALT. All Women are like that. that is the whole point of this thread & all the other threads. there is no perfect unicorn.
Selfimproveman 10y ago
There are unicorns but the whole point is that there are so few and far between. My grandma is one, the most loyal and family loving person I've ever met.
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Anarox 10y ago
What is redpills stand on serving in the US army (nowadays)
Squeezymypenisy 10y ago
Unless you manage to find a way to get them to pay for schooling then don't do it. It could make you into a man, but it most likely won't. I would not bother at all. What you should instead strive for is either FI or a career that you like enough to do. Don't just have a "job" like everyone else. example: My neighbor is currently a marine stationed in Japan and is about to get out, he qualified for schooling and is going to college. I don't believe he saw any combat in fact last I heard he was guarding a warehouse.
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nicethingyoucanthave 10y ago
It was already pretty ridiculously PC even back when I was in. And a lot of the mentality was a combination of stupid jocks and the police in Idiocracy (like the way they talked: "at this time we are engaged in the procurement of your tattoo"). Nonetheless, it was a great way to pay for school, and there were many good experiences to be had.
MakeAChoice9 10y ago
I am going to save this just so I can look at this photo as a reminder.
HellhoundsOnMyTrail 10y ago
Being in the military and having girlfriends at home while on deployment was my first taste of the pill.
foldpak111 10y ago
I was unknowingly Jody last night. Brutal
foldpak111 10y ago
Well that was brutal. This girl I flirt with on my break has a boyfriend in Afghanistan and she said she wants to "hang out"
Doctor_Mayhem 10y ago
A bumper sticker I wanna get. "My girlfriend's husband fights to protect your freedom!"
fortifiedoranges 10y ago
More proof that if you're married in the military, you're a chump.
Kenny_Twenty 10y ago
Another crybaby thread.
Ugh