Always assume that you’re going to bang - that is the best piece of advice I can give you.
1. Attire. Wear clothes you are comfortable in. I don’t mean actual comfort; I mean clothes that you have scored in before, or had compliments about. The aim is to avoid the uncomfortable feeling of insecurity regarding a new garment, or combination of garments. Being relaxed is key.
If you wear brown shoes, wear a brown belt. Black shoes, black belt. Don’t wear blue jeans and a blue shirt unless the shades of blue are extremely different. As a general rule, wear brown shoes + Brown belt with blue. The quality of your clothing is not as important as the colour coordination. Get used to looking at your clothes as a net effect. Generally, women are far more perceptive about colour coordination than men, you should be coordinated whilst not looking like you tried too hard.
Aftershave, perfume, whatever – do not over do it! If you’re going to trim nails, pubes, cut hair, whatever, do it 2-3 days before so by the time you are on the date you feel natural, (length of time for haircut to feel natural may be longer.)
2. Pre-drink. Have ONE pre-drink. In order to connect with the target you need to be on a similar level (Roosh: Bang) if you arrive drunk you’ll both sense it and the connection is lost. One drink will loosen you up and she will probably have done the same, thereby starting the date on the same level.
Avoid drugs before hand, cocaine makes you talk shit, your eyes look wide and they can sense something is off almost immediately. MDMA makes you seem too laid back and dreamy. Weed makes you too paranoid, and prescription meds generally zone you out. I have experimented with all the above to get an edge, and the only one that I’ve found can help is beta blockers, if you are REALLY nervous. Otherwise, that nervousness is actually needed in order to help form the connection, as on first dates, senses are heightened and the want to connect is already there. The other drug I sometimes take, are dick pills al a Brian Redban (JRE:784#). If the date is going well I might take ONE – it makes me horny which turns the girl on further, IF the date is going well. Sometimes I’ll drop before the date, just to see what happens, but that’s basically just to fuck with myself – if you want to take a dick pill, do it after you’ve begun to make out and grope.
3. Hold your frame on arrival. Don’t get lost in the nervous swirl of “how to play it” as you make your way there, or whilst you are waiting. Be natural. She will be nervous, therefore make your frame rock steady strong and calm, she will be more than happy to fall in to it.
Greet with big smile, open arms, double cheek kiss to double hand hold <- advanced move. Ask her how she is, do the polite “fine thank you”, “did you get here ok?” etc. Veering from the script of social norms too early is a risk.
If you meet outside somewhere, do not instantly start walking to the destination as soon as she arrives, have your little stop and chat, then you tell her, ok let’s go to XYZ. If you meet in a bar, similarly do not immediately ask her what drink she wants, have your little awkward first conversation, then tell her what you’re going to drink, and then ask her what she wants. Women as we know can be notoriously bad at making decisions, if she starts umming or looks confused about what drink to have – just suggest a mojito. 9 times out of 10 she will start to think she’s Carrie Bradshaw and will say “OK!”
4. Lead the interaction. Already have planned your approximate bar crawl – 3 bars is good. You are flexible and can roll with the punches, as the goal is to create the feeling of knowing each other more than you actually do (Neil Strauss: The Game) – and, gives you three opportunities to tell her where you’re going. Make it seem natural though, not like your some fucking weirdo that plans dates, which is what you have actually done.
After you practice you’ll find you have different routes for different towns that you have set in your head, this is when you’re a real baller. Bonus points if you can get them on public transport for a VERY small amount of time to get to the next bar. Trains > Buses.
5. Pay for the first round, and be prepared to pay for the entire date. I didn’t say it was equal opportunities – I said it was how to bang. Dates are different to club scenes where being overly generous is a beta move. On a date, paying is not quite the same. If she offers, let her pay. If she doesn’t you can either walk, or get your wallet. Realistically she’ll pay for one round, for your two. If you’re reading this screaming – “I never pay for two rounds or buy drinks for girls!” then you’re a faggot. I’m not saying be an open wallet, but there is a way to pay for things, which makes you lead; men have been doing it since the stone age, tap in to that.
6. Drink Selection Cocktails are good. Firstly the placebo NLP effects of saying “cock” (Can’t remember his name: The Game). Secondly, they contain shit loads of alcohol and taste like sugary drinks. Alcohol is a great lubricant. Be careful that you don’t drain you drink whilst she is still on the first 10% of hers. Avoid pints of lager, you’ll be pissing every 5 minutes, burping like a camel, and your breath will stink of shit. Bottles of Proseco to share are good, cocktails are great, and white wine is good, or shorts, i.e. Jack and Coke, Gin and Tonic etc.
Encourage selection of cocktails, choosing different cocktails, and the trying of each other’s cocktails. The combination of different alcohol will get you both more drunk, the shared experience will boost the date, and the sharing of different opinions on flavours inevitably leads to “UMMMMMMS!” and “oh yeah, try this one!” – all very positive and fun.
7. Conversation stay on script – to begin with; what do you do, what’s new, how did you and mutual friend meet, where did you go to college, etc. The intention is to not fuck it up or seem weird. RSD Julien calls this “dumbing down” and I have to agree. Start boring and work your way in to an interesting conversation. For years I would turn up and let all my freak out the bag instantly whilst being completely IDGAF about it. Yeah it worked most of the time, but I also scared a few off. This new boring and then gradually working up to interesting / quirky is giving me an improved success %. It also kind of plays in to frame; I don’t want to be too emotional too quickly, even if those emotions are positive and fun. I want to be rock steady cool and then gradually work my way in to the interaction like a natural. As the date progresses and the alcohol takes effect you will naturally begin to laugh more and talk about all sorts of things – even by agreeing to meet you she already has one foot in your bed, remember that.
8. First Kiss When she wants to be kissed – just do it. You know the moment, because you feel it. It should be taken at first opportunity; failure to do so for too long will severely damage your chances of getting the notch. Also gradually work an arm around her waist as you do it, they love a bit of groping. See Vin Di Carlo Escalation ladder for the basics.
9. Transitioning to the crib When it’s time to fuck – do it. Staying in the bar too late for the sake of it just means you’re too scared to take bang. After 3-4 drinks, just say “time to go home” and just act like she’s coming with you, if there’s any LMR or she starts saying about how SHE is going to get home, just say “I think you should come home with me” – hold eye contact, then begin to smile, then kiss. (Point 9 assumes point 8 has happened and that you’ve been passionately making out and groping her sufficiently).
10. Fucking. Get in to your room, make-out standing, pull at her clothes, and grope slowly but stronger than in the bar. If you’re able, PICK HER UP; put one arm between her legs up to your inner elbow, so that your bicep is almost touching where her pubes would be, and your inner elbow is right up against her vag. The other arm goes around her upper-back. Do this slowly, and then walk to your bed whilst holding eye contact, either throw or put her on the bed. For a film example see “last Tango in Paris” it’s in the first sex scene – As a Red Pill man you should be well acquainted with this film anyway for a variety of reasons that I won’t go in to now.
Don’t bother climbing on top for kissing and grinding with clothes on, just start pulling them off. Even if she starts to take them off herself, you carry on “helping” her, just make sure you’re not doing it too gently. Look at her with eyes of lust, in fact do everything with lust. You can also fully undress before bed, whatever you want to do, do it, whatever you want to taste, take it.
The first sexual encounter will usually define to a large extent how the sexual dynamic will be in future. When you cum, make noise, I know, it can be difficult, I myself was a mute lover for years, but trust me, you gotta get primal, throw in a few “ah fuck” ‘s as you get close, and pull her tight and do real power pumps as you see the stars (Sex God Method – for full explanation). I like to fuck like a wild animal then spoon like a baby.
Enjoy. Uncle Luke
theultimatewarriors 7y ago
How do you make putting on the condom a natural act on one of these. I've been terrified of the amount of women ok without using condoms (and almost seems to fuck up the moment if I stop to put one on at points).
How do I make the condom a natural part of the lust-filled sex (which usually is all about being overcome with desire that you have to have them right there).
LukeMooney 7y ago
That's a good question, and to be honest it takes practice. In the heat of the moment when she suggests, or, if you decide then say - "I'm going to put a condom on". Reach for the draw you have them in, or jacket if you're at hers, go back to her so some part of you is touching to maintain her lust, rip it open, discard the wrapper on the floor like its nothing, blow in to the rubber to check which way its gonna roll, put over tip, roll down, hold on at base, give dick a hard flick like you would a syringe, take her to pound town. Overall make it seem like you done this 1000 times before.
theultimatewarriors 7y ago
I like the idea of touching to maintain lust. I think like all things it's just leading without flinching. If I think the condom is a big deal, it probably will become one, if I think it isn't a big deal, then she'll follow and stay in my frame. Appreciate the response.
LukeMooney 7y ago
Np. From your response - basically sounds like you're in your own head a bit. Dnt worry - is perf normal. I spent years worrying about how to take a girls bra off, still fuck it up sometimes - no longer care!
Luckyluke23 8y ago
not gunna lie... i got hard while reading this....
deffo have to try this at one point. i wanna invite girl over to my crib and cook for her, that would be cool too.
great post man, keep on posting.
edit: I LOVE the comments below me ( talking about inviting her over for dinner) can we please see more post / comments like this!
LukeMooney 8y ago
I know the cooking comments are insane! I'm gonna be on home cooking dates for the next 6 months then do another post I think.
FellowRedPiller 8y ago
Something else to add to Step 8: First kiss
Always end the kiss before she does. Otherwise you seem too eager to physically escalate and she'll pick up on it. Kiss her for a bit and when you can sense things are really heating up, pull back and say something like "But that's all you get for now since we ARE in public and both you and I are obviously very classy" (If you have a grin while saying this, it's even better)
Anything along those lines. It'll make her go crazy and you will instantly see it in her body language. Now she's made the connection that if she wants 'more' it'll have to happen in a private environment, aka your pad. If you're in control of yourself around her but barely, it's something women write about in their romance novels. So yes, that turns them on.
Also try not to physically escalate much past a few kisses in public. Yes, build lots of implicit sexual tension but don't convert that energy into physical yet. If you escalate too much physically before getting back to your place, the chances of her hamster spinning start to go up.
And the last thing to say before going back to your place is something along the lines of "Hey we're going back to myplace for xyz. But DONT get any funny ideas now." and give her the accusing eyes. This will now plant the idea of sex in her head while you're at the same time disqualifying it AND accusing her of being the pervert. And since it's done implicitly, it works magic on HBs and their hamsters.
TL;DR 1) Implicitly build sexual tension in public but don't physically escalate that much.
2) Be the first to pull back from the kiss and tell her that that's all she's gonna get for now.
3) Before taking her back to your place tell her not to "get any funny ideas now" with accusing eyes.
Source: All from personal experience.
AutisticusMaximus 7y ago
Thank you. Very practical advice.
NotReallyEthicalLOL 8y ago
That's a lot of effort; I just take her back after a cup of coffee.
_nrm 8y ago
Shit man, you're probably doing more of this than you realize then.
redwurst 8y ago
It's time to leave this sub.
Gawernator 8y ago
I would not pay for everything. She's not your girlfriend or wife and hasn't earned that. Paying for some things is ok, she should help out.
BattleDrillOneAlpha 8y ago
Agreed. When I first started reading TRP over a year ago I developed the mindset that I should never pay for anything. And this actually limited me because I developed this incompatible mindset.
One thing a personal trainer friend of mine (he fucks, a lot) told me is to wait a little when you get the bill. This gives her time to think about it, and if she doesn't get her wallet out then by all intents and purposes pay for the meal. Don't make a big deal of it, but put that down as black mark for the chick. However, I've found that a lot of the time she will take the initiative and either A) pay for all of the meal or B) split the bill.
But to each their own. I don't give a fuck if I have to pay because I make sure to not go too expensive, and I only pay if I know that I will be hooking up with the chick. And if I notice a chick eyeing something really expensive like a fucking $12+ drink or some shit, I will make fun her and say "I hope you have some fucking money for that shit".
They usually get the hint.
Gawernator 8y ago
Yeah it really should come down to common sense. If you're going after more conservative traditional girls that are the type to cook and clean for you, they'll also have the expectation that you'll pay for most things.
Now if it's some entitled feminist slut at a bar, don't pay for shit.
SimpleHomme 8y ago
Agree.
AWALT doesn't mean all women are exactly the same, it just means they share some common characteristics.
Though when you don't know them, going Dutch seems like the best option.
NightwingTRP 8y ago
The scream of the insecure. Individual style dude. This guide is good, but like many things on TRP it needs to be addressed from the perspective of "take what is useful, discard what is useless and add what is uniquely your own." In this case, yeah, I run a rounds system to make sure I'm not taken to the cleaners. I try to find an excuse to order her to buy the first round. This is a good move because it forces her to be invested in the date which increases your chances of success. I have never had a chick walk because I told her it was her round. Even if she did, I wouldn't care.
I'm not convinced by this section. I do whatever I feel like on a first date, which usually involves a pint because I like real ale. The advice on cocktails is fine, but the negative advice on what to avoid is weak. As I said, it's never affected me so I don't see an issue with others going for that if they don't want a fruity drink.
Also, love the advice of /u/NicCageForPresident it's great. I've actually run a variant of this on a couple of girls who I've told to pick up a takeaway and come over. No LMR, sometimes even straight to the point from them walking through the door. Bonus of no effort on dinner and she's paid for it and done all the travelling.
LukeMooney 8y ago
yeah from the comments - I think the paying for everything bit wrong. Its not even something I do regularly.
with regard to the drink selection, all I'll say is try it once, see what your results are like.
absolutely - that's what this place is all about
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LukeMooney 8y ago
Yeah - I have been pulled up about the paying thing by a few people. The reality is I do what you described most of the time. But, if I'm honest, I am prepared to pay, which in heinsight probably isn't always good. Ce la vie
NightwingTRP 8y ago
I'm not saying I haven't. I've done shared bottles of wine before. I've done cocktails too. It all depends on my mood. (If I'm enjoying myself and pleasing myself then I'll have a good time and she will therefore have a good time since I'm exuding positive energy.) That's why I said the positive reasons to adopt that are all fine.
If you wanted a positive behind say pints of real ale, something I've done often, she'll usually be intrigued since she'll never have ordered something like that. Causing intrigue and curiosity in a woman is always a solid move in my book - just doing things for the sake of novelty shows you have more world experience than her (thus higher value) and as we all know... women don't want to build a life, they just want to go set up shop in the awesome life of a cool guy.
A couple of regular comments tend to come from the real ale. If she tastes it and goes "that's disgusting" then a good response is "yeah, it puts hair on your chest. From what I can see, you can't do those sorts of things." Gives you an excuse to openly oogle her tits, while simultaneously putting a bit of a neg in as a joke. The other comment that's come up a couple of times is words to the effect of "that's an old man drink." I find this sly shit test amusing and it's a great excuse to respond "that your subtle way of telling me you have daddy issues?" She'll be back to selling herself to you in no time.
Solitary_Wolf 8y ago
thanks, im stealing that. i drink gin and tonic or guinness almost exclusively and i get that line quite often.
LukeMooney 8y ago
I'm stealing that one about hairs on chest too - his comebacks are obv. tried and tested.
LukeMooney 8y ago
Ahahaha nice - you've got all your responses for ale down to a fine art!
NightwingTRP 8y ago
Thanks. Game is something I enjoy. My TRP Field Toolkit series on base game is actually what a couple of endorsed guys told me they learned their game from. I'm going to post a follow up on commands once I've got my blog up and running. Real life is a pain that keeps getting in the way.
LukeMooney 8y ago
Cool. I'll have a nosey through your submission history.
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Adderallabuse 8y ago
I like your submission Luke, a man should always be escalating towards sex when boy meets girl. Respecting the princess and not wanting to rush things reek of Disney programming and runs counter to your god-given right as a man to smash fine pussy. Even if sex doesn't happen the first night, she will respect you for trying and if she becomes a plate or GF than this will pervade her thoughts down the road when you are not present. Its potential dread knowing that her man takes sex when he wants it
One tip, I do think paying for everything is a mistake. I've had great success making women dig deep into that purse when I tell them it's their turn. Remember, she likely won't offer on her own and she will follow your lead as long as you tell her what to do. Even if its symbolic like her paying the cab ride.
Sdom1 8y ago
I've always thought this was mostly bullshit, and misses the real point which is to force a girl to pull her weight. When I was dating, I dated college chicks and girls who were just starting out. You know, early to mid 20s. They. have. no. fucking. money. None, zero, zilch, nada. Good luck getting that graphic design intern to spring for dinner at Ruth's Chris to prove that you're an alpha.
I always had them contribute in other ways. That's more what it's about, making them work to keep you around. You can do that with money, but I'd rather have a broke ass girl cook me dinner and give me a massage than make her take me out with money she doesn't have.
Also, above a certain level of attractiveness she is going to wonder about your status if you're making her pay for shit, especially if you are beyond your mid 20's, you just look like a fucking loser at that point. If you're older, part of the reason she's dating you is because you have more status and can give her peak life experiences. I'm sure there are guys more alpha than I out there who would disagree, but I just found that to be the reality of things when you are trying to fuck girls that are young and hot, i.e. very high smv.
Now, if you're dating a 34 year old professional with some mileage on her, then you make her pay for shit as she's probably too busy to do other stuff, and she has the money. But in the end it's not about making a girl pay, that can just be a means to the real end.
LukeMooney 8y ago
I make you right. most of the time they do just offer on their own with me, but sometimes, I should prob be forcing their hand a little more. It's a fine line. Especially if I'm dating a young poor girl or student, and I've initiated the date, and then suggested somewhere that sells cocktails at £12 a go.
Adderallabuse 8y ago
Make her pay something though. That poor student will max out her credit cards for a new dress and bus ticket to see an ex bf who pumped and dumped her play in a garage band five hours away if he makes her vagina tingle
ECoast_Man 8y ago
This is an easy one. When spot one or two is complete, you just simply say, 'so looks like you owe me a drink, I know this place just down the road...'
I've probably said a variant of that line 50 times.
rp_newdawn 8y ago
Oh that's a brilliant way to handle that. Thanks for sharing the tip
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NicCageForPresident 8y ago
Alternatively you can invite the girl straight to your place with a pretense like "cooking dinner". I've fucked 4 tinder girls in the past 2 weeks doing this, no LMR
EDIT: for guys that have never tried this, it works best if your tinder profile has a real scumbag look about it. I wear dog tags, have my ears pierced etc. and my photos send the message that I'm just a guy looking to get laid. That way all the girls who come over know exactly what they're getting into.
Literally on your 3 or 4th message just say "tomorrow I'm gonna cook dinner and watch this movie I've been wanting to see, you're welcome to join me."
Of course some girls will stop responding when you say that, but if you have about 25 matches, odds are VERY good that one of them will be down
SupDummmy 8y ago
Cooking dinner for a girl is great in so many ways.
Cheaper and less time consuming than going to a restraunt.
You don't have to leave your house.
Seems / is thoughtful.
Gets girl in your apartment immediately.
You'd be cooking dinner for yourself anyway, so might you're sort of multitasking / two birds.
If your game is IDGAF enough you can be wearing sweatpants when she comes over. If you're hot enough this will win you points.
Eventually you'll get to a stage where you're unwilling to meet a girl if she's not willing to come to your house or at least drive to your neighborhood where you can go for a walk from there and then circle back to your place for ice cream / tea / Netflix. You could call this laziness but I think the dynamic immediately weeds out stuck-up girls and puts you in the drivers seat of the interaction right off the bat.
LuvBeer 8y ago
I separate tinder girls into two tiers. The lower tier I get onto whatsapp and start talking sexually and if possible send them a dick pic. For all the bullshit posturing about how you should NEVER send a dick pic, I get about a 50% positive reception. Once my intentions are crystal clear, I meet "for coffee" which actually turns out to be a walk to my house. Total spend: 0.
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JoeJackJohnson 8y ago
I will verify that this works. Chicks love men who can cook, and it bypasses her ASD and LMR because it gives her a legitimate reason to come over (free food). Plus I get to show off my house, which most women want, which is more SMV added to you.
Syriz_ 7y ago
I second this! Cooking is a great life skill and girls love a man who can cook. I however use this as a second date opportunity since that works for me. First date is somewhere outside like bar/coffee place and then for second date I invite her over for dinner. I always bring up food/cooking during my conversations since it is a universally safe topic and everyone can talk about it. Then bam! invite her over for dinner. Nothing too fancy, low effort, max 30-45 minutes of cooking. Plating is a art and if you can nail that down, even a regular meal can look great. Also to make her feel at ease, I almost always pick up a light comedy movie to watch. Has worked like a charm every single time, bar one girl.
Edit: As a rule, I never finish the first date without confirming the second one
GunsGermsAndSteel 8y ago
I will also verify that it works- but I don't cook anymore. I used to enjoy it, and women loved it, but somewhere along the way I just completely lost interest in cooking. I can still do it, but I hate it.
BUT- this is important- I try hard to attract the kind of woman who enjoys cooking. And the thing is, that kind of woman gets just as turned on by you enjoying her food as she would by seeing you cook a good meal.
fir3hand 8y ago
i like this. they are like animals.. we bait them with food :D
LukeMooney 8y ago
I'm gonna start doing this, I've got a really nice place. Good excuse to learn how to cook a few things
Forcetobereckonedwit 8y ago
I always invite them for dinner at my place. Talk about holding frame...you own the frame, from the moment they step inside. Have a decent bottle of wine unopened but on the counter, so she doesn't wonder about the whole drugs in the drink BS, hand her the corkscrew, "here Stacey, there are glasses in the cupboard."
LukeMooney 8y ago
If there's one thing I've learnt from this post - it's that inviting girls round for dinner is something I must now master
Forcetobereckonedwit 8y ago
Works every time. Now it's a thing to leave instead of to come to "your" place, and you've already proven resources and support to their unconscious search for babydaddy.
Clint_Redwood 8y ago
All these recipes are easy but have a bit of a unique twist that most chicks have never seen. Some are even fun to do with them like the grilled cheese.
Newbie Dishes That make you Look like a Master
The Ultimate Steak Sandwiches - Gordon Ramsay This right here is one of the best steak I've ever ate in my entire life. It's at the top of my list for a reason. Just make sure you get the right cut. It's expensive but jesus it's amazing. I actually don't do the sandwiches and just substitute carrots. I throw some olive oil and canola butter in there with a ton of carrots underneath the thyme. There are very few things better than fried carrots cooked in steak sauce with canola butter.
If you go the carrot route, fry the steak for a sec and add the sauce to the pan and a tiny bit of thyme leaves. Then cook the carrots for about 20mins, then put the rest of the thyme and steak on top. That way everything comes out cooked for the correct amount of time.
How to Cook Perfect Steak | Jamie Oliver The basic A, B, C's of cooking different kinds of cuts. Different cuts have different requirements for cooking. Some are amazing medium well, others are better medium rare. Learn the cuts and how to cook them.
Grilled Grilled Cheese Awesome spin on a classic. Great taste and really great for cooking with a girl, getting some kino in, etc.
Gennaro's Gorgeous Grilled Fish With Pesto Dressing This is my go too if I'm feeling fish. It has a unique taste that you can apply to any fish that most people, at least if you don't live on the coast have never had.
Roast Potatoes Three Ways | Jamie Oliver simple but awesome side dish
Amazing Fried Pizza | Antonio Carluccio Another unique twist on a classic dish. It's the longest to prep on this list but damn it's good once it's done. I suggest you prep the dough before the girl gets there or you can do it together and then leave for an hour or two too do something else.
Cooking is seriously an amazing skill to have. Every chick I've ever cooked for was impressed that I even knew what i was doing, never mind i just spent 5 minutes searching on youtubing and 20 buying ingredients. Some chicks even openly tell me it's sexy as fuck. Even had a few first dates give me head right in the kitchen as i cook. It's a really quick way to separate yourself from every other basic mother fucker out there. It's the second thing I picked up once i found TRP. Gym being the first. Lift, eat, sleep. Fuck up any of them and you'll fuck up the rest.
PrinceofSpades 8y ago
New dishes to add to my own repitoire? Clint delivering big-time today!
--HankMoody-- 8y ago
All of the worlds best chefs are male. Cooking is something that many men love, we like to create, we love to bbq and we are better at it than women. Learn to cook guys, it will make you healthier and you will live better and have an extra date option which will always get you laid.
Moldy_Gecko 8y ago
Wow... I love grilled cheese. I learned about grating a while ago, this is next in the evolution.
Luckyluke23 8y ago
dude this is fucking AMAZING! thanks so much.
LukeMooney 8y ago
I'm absolutely loving all the cookery comments! I'm going to go back to the drawing board - and get some home dinner dates. Then report back in 6 months with my findings.
It's a decent topic not well covered now that I think about it - cooking for dates. Lots of stuff to look in to!
Syriz_ 7y ago
Give me a shout out if you need help. To think of this, I can do a post on cooking and cover cooking for dates. It is a seriously great life skill to have any ways. A friend gifted me the book "Jamie Italians Ministry of Food" and its been a revelation. Easy to do dishes with everyone under the 50 minute mark.
LukeMooney 7y ago
Go for it - I think there's space for many posts on this subject, and at the moment I have very little experience. Like I said, I am planning on doing one, but it's going to take me ages to be in a position to do so. Would therefore say, write your post if you have the necessary experience, and I'm sure it will spark a good debate, as the comments in this post are surprisingly about cooking!
I might actually do a post about BBQ cooking instead.
cheers
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GooseJuice-xo 8y ago
Hey man would you consider a full post about this at some point?
Clint_Redwood 8y ago
Show me your tits and I will
Regularguygamebrah 8y ago
Somebody send this man their tits!
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CornyHoosier 8y ago
Shake your money maker man! I keep my place spotless (and unique) just in case friends or ladies are coming over.
Pro Tip: Women hate dirty toilets. Don't just clean the lid and lip ... clean the front of the toilet, base of the toilet and the tank lid.
nooooou 8y ago
note to self: clean all shit and piss off the toilet if you want to impress a girl. Thanks RP!
AbyssalPlainsman 8y ago
Spotless and unique are both great suggestions, that everyone should follow. A lot has been said about having a "style" or look of your own when it comes to clothing, but I would argue that if you're going to be inviting women over, this would trump that.
Your apartment/house, furniture, etc. need to be a reflection of you; by extension YOU need to be an interesting person with good taste.
For example:
Bookshelves. With actual books, that you have read and know something about, on them (caveat: keep your RP stuff on a high shelf, or out of sight - not the kind of conversation material you want). Shelves filled with vinyl records don't hurt either (think Harvey Specter).
Quality furniture. You want furniture that is masculine, in warm colors; leather is great (don't worry that she'll be a vegetarian/vegan and be offended; she's probably wearing leather shoes and carrying a leather handbag - "animal lovers", and especially female animal lovers, are notoriously lacking in self-awareness when it comes to this). You also want it to be comfortable and spacious, especially when you start escalating, physically.
Lighting. Having flattering, warm lighting in your place will immediately and drastically improve your chance. Replicate the sort of lighting that you'd find in a good restaurant; it will flatter her appearance (as well as your own) and naturally enhances an atmosphere of intimacy. Harsh, overly-bright, ceiling-mounted lighting is a mood killer and creates a clinical, rather than intimate, atmosphere.
Wooden floors (if you can swing it). A well-kept hardwood floor screams class, and there's no need to worry about spilled drinks (or other fluids) staining your floors or requiring immediate cleanup. As an extension of this: quality area rugs. Preferably a mix thereof, and definitely at least one that is thick and soft enough to fuck her on (women eat that shit up - you'll see something similar played out on countless romance novel covers).
BowlOfCandy 8y ago
Meal subscription delivery services like Hellofresh and BlueApron are excellent for this: 3x meals for two each week. It's about $10/meal all in, which is cheaper than take-out but more expensive than cooking from scratch.
$20 dinner date, healthy meal, don't need to grocery shop. Also a great way to learn how to cook.
Also if the girl gets promoted to an LTR, you get 3 nights a week of staying in cheap, no need to run a $50-150 tab taking her out on a date.
blackchadthundercock 8y ago
Nope
Doing this is no better than getting takeout. It's the lazy way. Make the damn food yourself.
interestedplayer 8y ago
My ltrs don't get jackshit from me, never mind 50-150$ tabs for dates.
The reason I make girls ltrs is so they are unconditionally mine, buy me food, cook it and then fuck.
If I was going to pay for dates it might as well be a new woman. The point of ltr is to train her to be your personal servant.
yeah ok downvote me for never having spent 50-150 (!?!) dollar tabs on an ltr...
blackchadthundercock 8y ago
Upvoted & I agree with you.
Women were put on this earth to serve men. The sooner these jokers on this site who claim to know the truth about bitches realize this, the better off society will be when they finally man the fuck up.
kittenssavedmylife 8y ago
Holy shit you are bat shit fucking crazy.
Youre literally a few steps away from the mentality of the dude in the collector.
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DisciplineOverDrive 8y ago
You're not getting downvoted for that. Hell, you're probably not even getting downvoted for coming across as douche-y, but because you believe you can make girls unconditionally yours. The attitude just exacerbates it.
interestedplayer 8y ago
I never said she is "mine". Girls never belong to someone. But if you're gonna give them exclusivity, why not demand some additional perks, else you might as well find new girls. Am I wrong?
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JoeJackJohnson 8y ago
Cooking is easy as fuck. If you can read a recipe, you can cook. Women make it out to be this special skill or something that only they can possess lol. No need to get fancy with all these Pinterest recipes that takes like 4 hours to cook a turkey burger either.
plsjustgo 7y ago
"Can you cook" becomes an easy way to get them to qualify. Kind of like what "Do you work/have a job/car" is for us.
5t3fan0 8y ago
true, cooking really IS EASY; and imo every man should know how to cook... even if he eats out at restaurants 24/7!
as long as 1- the recipe is good and 2- the ingredients are ok and 3- you don't oversalt/overspice/overcook .... its really hard to fuck up!
PrinceofSpades 8y ago
Yeah... The second I started cooking for myself, I learned that I'm a better cook than any girl I've ever had in my life, sans my mother who has a culinary degree. Downside to that was growing up eating a bunch of dishes I had no interest in though, while with self-cooking you always get exactly what you want to eat.
Bronze_Bound 8y ago
I'm pretty sure i didn't want all this burnt food.
Sdom1 8y ago
This depends. Being a truly good cook is more difficult than you're imagining. Just following a basic recipe is not too difficult, but that doesn't make you any good.
tripwire1 8y ago
I don't disagree with you, but you're kind of nitpicking a little bit. The main goal in this context is basically just to make girls think you're a good cook. I can't tell you how many times I've followed a simple recipe for something like pork loin, chicken parm, etc, and had girls actually say "oh my god" out loud when they tried it and complimented me like I was the iron chef or something.
Sdom1 8y ago
Sure, I get that. But at that point, what you mean is "getting good enough at cooking to impress a young girl is easy," which it is. That's different than "it's easy to become a good cook." What you described is bare bones level proficiency, and that's all it takes to impress some plumber's 20 year old daughter who grew up eating food out of bags and boxes because her whore mother never cooked cause feminism.
And look, maybe that's enough. Maybe that's all you're interested in doing, and that's alright. If it gets you laid, then more power to you. I'm just saying, don't learn a sloppy jab and think you can box.
Regularguygamebrah 8y ago
I respect this mentality. Cooking is easy, I cook all the time but getting in a commercial kitchen and putting out consistently good dishes is extremely difficult.
ClimbingTehLadder 8y ago
It's amazing that so few women can cook worth a shit despite 1) that's one of the most valued skills a female has in a man's eyes and 2) as you said it's not difficult to learn and do. They're so fuckin lazy..
wiseprogressivethink 8y ago
Sort of a rule about women is that if they don't have to do something, they won't be doing it.
Microwave dinners and fast food made it so that women don't have to cook anymore, so they don't (unless their man makes them).
PrinceofSpades 8y ago
And we wonder why so many American and Western European women are fat as fuck now.
throwabluepillaway 7y ago
Not like there's a gender difference at that, though.
PrinceofSpades 7y ago
While this is true, a confident fat man will do much better than a fat woman ever will in the dating scene. You can thank football culture for that; apparently being a lineman is still somehow 'sexy' to some sorority sluts.
throwabluepillaway 7y ago
True. Lineman thing is a justification though. In my country, which doesn't watch nfl, chicks go with confident fatties all the time.
antariusz 8y ago
This is my go to method.
Thank god for tinder.
IGoYouStayTwoAutumns 8y ago
Can you elaborate a bit more on your Tinder profile? (How many photos, what's in them, your bio text etc.) Also what city are you in?
I'm in LA, surrounded by some of the best looking guys in the world (many of whom are close friends), and I don't think a single one of them has pull 25 Tinder matches in an entire year. (Or ever, for that matter.) LA's a tough city for sure but damn, sounds like you've mastered the secret sauce old boy (that or you're in a city where the odds are far more in a man's favor).
NicCageForPresident 8y ago
I'm from LA. I was able to pull 3-4 matches a day when I visit. I do about the same in the city I live in now. I have 3 photos.
The first one is a selfie in my car wearing some ray ban wayfarers and generally looking like a douchebag, filters and everything.
My second photo is a mirror selfie with a fairly tight shirt. I'm in decent shape but really nothing amazing. I'm wearing a graphic tee with the sleeves partially rolled up, a beanie and dog tags
The third photo is me in my EMS uniform giving a teddy bear to a 6 year old boy and we're both smiling (money).
The profile text isn't important at all. Literally doesn't matter. Don't put anything if you don't want.
Mine says: "6' 2". when I was little girls used to hate when i pulled their hair. Funny how some things change"
It's a light screening line to interest girls that are DTF and scare off girls that aren't. I don't know if it really makes a difference though.
I may do a full write up on how to invite tinder girls directly to your place. I have lots of naked photos I've taken of the girls as well that I can post as proof that I actually know what I'm talking about.
IGoYouStayTwoAutumns 8y ago
The EMS / teddy bear / boy photo: genius. And the fact that it's the LAST photo--that's like the fucking ending of Shawshank right there. You've got the complete narrative throughline ("Bad boy with a heart of gold") in just 3 photos. No wonder you're matching up a storm.
Definitely do get that post up re: advanced Tinder strategies (direct invites etc), am sure quite a few of us would love to read.
Duchozz 8y ago
Lol. Used to do this all the time except I just asked them over for drinks.
NicCageForPresident 8y ago
This guy gets it. It doesn't fucking matter at all what pretense you use. The point is not that it works because "girls love/want to fuck guys who cook", or whatever. This is for girls looking for one night stands, they don't give a FUCK what you're like as long as you're hot/cool.
The point is just that you don't have to take these tinder hos out on dates. You can just invite them over. Most guys don't know this because they've literally never tried/are too afraid of rejection.
Duchozz 8y ago
Yeah, Tinder makes it so literally anyone who is remotely good looking can get laid with minimal effort. Invite her over for a movie and drinks immediately, have a drink or two if you feel like it (in my experience they don't usually go for the drinks, they know what this is). Don't say much about yourself, just let her make you out to be whatever she wants you to be. Then, when the time is right (haha jk the time is literally always right) kiss her and you're in there. Sooner is better than later as I'm sure you have other things to do.
LukeMooney 8y ago
does that work? I've never even tried that angle
tripwire1 8y ago
I've never tried cooking for them on a first date but I've used it on subsequent dates and it completely hooks them. Just follow a basic recipe that will turn out delicious. One of my go-to's was pork loin in an apricot glaze with a side of fingerling potatoes. Sounds really fancy, INCREDIBLY easy to make.
turkishbacon 8y ago
A good idea would be to place an order for a blue apron or some meal prep delivery service. Gives you step by step directions to cook delicious healthy meals, which will provide great energy for fucking. The meals look fancy and really give off the impression that you are an ace in the kitchen, also, they take no more than an hour to prep and cook. or go with a simple homemade pasta dish: in a blender put a handful or 2 of basil, fresh tomato, olive oil, pepper flakes (depends how spicy you want it) garlic salt to taste and there you'll have a nice homemade sauce that will taste delicious. then make spaghetti, pecorino or parmesan on top with some parsley sprinkled on for presentation and you've got yourself a gourmet meal for under $10 for the two of you. pair that with some wine and you've got yourself quite an evening.
Also, tell her to bring desert or the wine or both. but she should bring something bc who the fuck goes to someones house without bringing anything
PS- make sure you brush your teeth or use some mouthwash after that meal
IKickHorses 8y ago
It also has her following your plan and contributing. She will be latched on by the time she arrives
JustSkipAhead 8y ago
This is really good idea and girls really loves men that can cook. Don't cook something hard or try some fucked up fancy pancy dish just go simple. Make a pasta/risotto, buy a bottle of wine, light some candles and turn down the light, extra points if you go for some good music on low volume.
Rule number one; don't fucking over do it just keep everything plain and simple.
Or
Cook your meal together at your place, it's actually quite fun.
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one exception to over doing it: if you enjoy making fancy things, make fancy things. i know a guy that makes fancy dishes when he eats alone. if you're that guy, or your day job is being gordon ramsay or something, obviously do it for the girl too.
trumpisafaggybeta 8y ago
Isn't it sad that guys who get laid know how to cook better than most of these bimbos these days? I can make a mean risotto, but I doubt most of these basic bitches have touched a pan in their life.
maldittoduende 8y ago
It really is. Cooking is simple. Being a Chef is a challenge, but making pretty much anything you can think of is so easy there's no excuse not to. We have the internet. We have YouTube. You literally just have to follow step by step instructions and by your third time cooking the same meal you don't need the instructions anymore. Goes to show you how little effort these girls put in.
JustSkipAhead 8y ago
Yes it's sad as fuck that I know I'm better chief than most girls out there. But what can you do? Just keep fucking the damn gurls.
My risotto is also a killer and I fucking love to cook, every girls panties is wet like the Nile after we have finish the meal.
RPFlame 8y ago
Because the bimbos see this as "wow, cooking is so beneath me, is this the 60's?" while the men who get into it do it out of interest and passion.
This is why male chefs dominate the restaurants.
MyOtherHatsAFedora 8y ago
I just bought a condo and have been trying to figure out the best way to get girls in here. They are always impressed when they see it. The hard part is getting them in. I like the cooking idea.
What do you say when they throw out the classic line "I like to meet in public for the first time".
NicCageForPresident 8y ago
Well if it's a Tinder girl then I unmatch them and stop responding.
If it's a girl from cold approach, I tend to give them a little more leeway, because they are higher quality girls. In THAT situation I'll compromise and get drinks with them or go see a movie in a theatre or something.
It all depends on where you're at. I have 2 regular fuckbuddies and 3 girls that come around sporadically, so I accept absolutely no games from new girls at all. But, if you aren't seeing any girls (I wasn't last year for a period of time) you might as well let the girls drag you around a little bit until you get your first regular
Boovs4life 8y ago
Any dating advice for a 19 yr old guy? I can't go to bars and most of the dating tips on TRP include some form of drinking.
GunsGermsAndSteel 8y ago
Be the guy who can get liquor. Swim in pussy. Repeat.
PyridoxaI 8y ago
If a girl agrees to come over for the first date then yeah she's already decided it's time for pound town.
protolux 8y ago
Does this work for guys who have a small 1 room apartment?
throwabluepillaway 7y ago
They better not see it before the pussy is wet lol
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energyinmotion 8y ago
Good thing I just started working in a legit Italian restaurant.
sternje 8y ago
This. Communication of your intentions, up front. No pussyfooting about. Women want sex too, but want you to say/demonstrate it first. And if not, on to the next.
Entropy-7 8y ago
Alternatively, the second date ploy is to bring food to her place and cook dinner there. There are some ups and downs to this, however.
Thotwrecker 8y ago
Yeah, I recommend this + a minibar cabinet thingy (they are like $200-300 for a cheap one). Keep it with all the thot brands of booze that college girls think are fancy (Patron) and make them a cocktail with dinner, or to sip while you two cook and you order her around. Learn how to make a few basic girl cocktails.
TheRealMouseRat 8y ago
hahaha. that's what I always do. or if the girl seems interested in meeting somewhere public first I just meet by the grocery store to buy food.
NoIamNotARobot 8y ago
1 in 25 isn't low though?
Usually I go for a coffee close to my place, and after ~30-60min I pull. I think for the chicks that I pull too fast what you do could probably work, but the rest you lose by inviting them straight to your house because you ask too much compliance too soon.
GunsGermsAndSteel 8y ago
Who cares if it's low? You can do 25 approaches in an hour on Tinder, easy. That's like zero fucking effort, man.
NoIamNotARobot 8y ago
You probably live in a big enough city. I wouldn't give a shit either.
However, that is bad game. You're activating their ASD without any reason, and if you leave in a small city like I do(the 18-23 chicks on tinder are ususally ~100-150/month) it will fuck up you results.
NicCageForPresident 8y ago
Ohh boo hoo, wouldn't want to "activate her ASD" you fucking nerd.
If you wanna HAVE SEX. Do what I do.
If you wanna TAKE GIRLS ON DATES and BOUNCE THEM FROM VENUE TO VENUE or whatever you pickup monkeys do, then be my guest and use another method.
My technique is for MEN who have other shit going on and don't wanna waste anymore time/effort on Tinder sluts than they have to
NicCageForPresident 8y ago
Fucking one in 25 of your MATCHES on tinder? No, that's not low. That's very, very high.
rothkochapel 8y ago
That's PRETTY LOW. 1 in 5 should be easily doable for a red-pilled dude.
NicCageForPresident 8y ago
Yeah no.
You haven't actually done that have you, you're speaking purely from conjecture.
Anyone who actually gets laid from tinder knows that's bullshit.
Furthermore, why do you need to lay 1/5 of your tinder matches anyway? Who gives a fuck?
I get laid EVERY SINGLE WEEK from Tinder. So why the fuck would it be worth to improve my match-to-lay ratio
NoIamNotARobot 8y ago
Then I must be a beautiful motherfucker. (lol believe me I'm not)
What if I told you that sending chicks something other than "wanna fuck" would give you better results.
You guys need to check ASD on the sidebar
NicCageForPresident 8y ago
I don't understand. I'm banging a new (attractive) girl every week off tinder, have them come straight to my place with no investment on my part, and you apparently have a BETTER method?
Well alright brah. Didn't know it got any better
NoIamNotARobot 8y ago
As I said to the other commenter, if you live in a big city what you guys do works. Try losing so many tinder matches in a city with polpulation ~100,000-150,00 and tell me how it goes. What you guys do is bad game, but to be honest I wouldn't give a shit either if I lived in a big city
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BaconEggsAndSleaze 8y ago
Tinder is low hanging fruit either way you chop it buddy.
You call this style bad game, I call yours over investment.
NoIamNotARobot 8y ago
We can name all kinds of things here, all kinds. You can field test this if you want, I've done this when I lived shortly in berlin. Anyway, are we arguing about the existence of ASD here? Seriously?
It will give you better results. 1 in 25 when you already have attraction is bad results. As I wrote before, there is nothing wrong with that if you are OK with losing a few sets. Personally, I don't like losing notches that could be closed for 30min investment. But, do you bro!
BaconEggsAndSleaze 8y ago
Who said that? You do realize I'm not the original poster right?
Anyways, you lack abundance. If you want to take every single girl to coffee, all you - I bet you text them good morning, too.
Usually, I'll fire up tinder at 8pm and invite someone over after 9.
NoIamNotARobot 8y ago
I don't think you know what that means. By your logic, if a guy comes here and says he has a dick pic on his tinder and bio "wanna fuck at 9pm at x address," he could say "you dudes lack abundance, I don't even message and I have 1 in 500 lays." lol
You do realize that was an example, right? Even if you say come with me while I walk my dog to his shitting corner it's the same.
You are trying to prove to me that giving an excuse during a pull isn't gonna give better results. It's field tested to death. lol
edit: bad game doesn't mean you don't get results. It means you close lower % than you could.
TWYW 8y ago
Great post, just point 4 seems bullshit. 3 bars in a date? That's insane, fuck that noise. One, maybe two... Then it's either sexy time or end of the date to meet again (or not).
LukeMooney 8y ago
Thanks mate. Honestly the whole bar hopping thing is amazing - just try it once and see what you find
TWYW 8y ago
By all means, if you enjoy it, go ahead. Just saying it's not necessary at all to get laid on the first date.
LukeMooney 7y ago
No not necessary - but massively beneficial - imo. But if you disagree and you're getting the results you want then fair enough. All good . Uncle Luke.
Clint_Redwood 8y ago
I have to suggest, if you are a dude that doesn't get a lot of time to be social or you are always in your head. MDMA is a great way to learn your true potential. I use to wonder what it'd be like if I was super charismatic. Well MDMA showed me damn well what my potential was and that it could easily be achieved without drugs. I would say it's a bad idea to take it if you are specifically going out on a date. But if you are just going to the bars to have a good time, MDMA turns you into a fucking rockstar.
If a chick take it with you and you fuck well and it's her first time on MDMA, welcome to your first alpha widow.
Note that it will fuck up your sex drive a few days after as it's such a massive dose of serotonin.
Edit: Obviously don't be an idiot with a concentrated substance of any kind. Any drug, even tobacco or alcohol can kill you if you aren't responsible with it. Do you research and do a ton of it. The only person on this earth looking out for you, is you.
www.Rollsafe.org
LukeMooney 8y ago
totally agree. MDMA opened my mind to a lot of things. I spent a good two years pushing my limits, hence even dropping bombs before a first date!
rp_newdawn 8y ago
Rollsafe.org
Follow their vitamin regimen during your roll and you won't have any negative side effects. I actually often experience a lovely afterglow for 1-3 days.
DoofusCPA 8y ago
I work for a car dealership. I suggest driving fast in the rain.
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JoeJackJohnson 8y ago
I'm no attorney, so I can't legally advise you that getting a chick high or drunk before fucking them is a good idea....but it's not a good idea...
Of course anyone carrying around drugs probably won't care in the first place, but just my .02.
thor_away92 8y ago
Once she eats that molly she'll love you forever
yeoldedirtybastard 8y ago
Fucking on MD is something else, especially for women. they're much more emotional, therefore it affects them stronger as well.
Clint_Redwood 8y ago
Yep, they can get seriously attached to you from it. Especially if they've never done it before. Both chicks I did it with became absolutely obsessed with me. One was crazy, I shouldn't have done it with her.
Learn from my mistake. Vet the woman damn well if you think about trying this. The only thing worse than a crazy bitch is a crazy bitch that's crazy for you.
yeoldedirtybastard 8y ago
There's something about an 8 hour drug fueled sex marathon that they tend to enjoy.
Clint_Redwood 8y ago
I use to be hardcore against drugs as my brother killed himself on fentanyl patches. MDMA was the first thing I ever did and it's still the only thing I've ever done. It was a real reality slap to the face on what drugs are and what they aren't. Society teaches you that if you do any drugs you'll destroy your life, and that's correct for shit like meth or heroine. But for the lesser drugs, as long as you don't use them to escape your reality like how most abusers do then you stand a good chance of being responsible about it.
Do you research, take them in a safe, controlled way and they can be a great life experience. I plan on doing MDMA maybe twice a year for big shit like going to a festival or something. It's not a weekend warrior drug like weed or alcohol. The key I think is do it for a purpose, not to just get fucked up. I thought long and hard about it before I ever took the plunge. There are subreddits dedicated to teaching proper dosage and usage along with conducting yourself in a safe manner.
TL;DR Do your research and don't be an idiot with a controlled substance. Responsibility and holding yourself accountable separates recreational use from abusers.
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sqerl 8y ago
No one says you have to take it. Helps to know what other guys are potentially doing. Cater your interaction appropriately... i.e if it's not for you, nor do you want a girl that's into it, you can use this info to help vet your date thru conversation.
RedSovereign 8y ago
No moralizing.
Clint_Redwood 8y ago
MDMA is going through FDA trials soon as a possible solution to curring PTSD along with a whole list of other benefits.
DEA approves study using MDMA for anxiety
Treating PTSD with MDMA case study
In 2007 or 2008 the FDA was ordered to release their findings on all drugs and their risk levels. MDMA doesn't even rank on the top 20 most harmful drugs.
With that said, obviously don't be a fucking idiot about it. It's a concentrated substance and like any concentrated substance it can hurt or even kill you. Do your research and know what you are taking before you take it. It's also the black market so dosages and regulations are all over the place.
Entropy-7 8y ago
Do alpha widows suffer PTSD? Divorce-raped men? Know a good doctor with a loose 'script pad?
martin-ho 8y ago
Wow, it must be soooo safe. Listen to yourself. This shit disgusts me. Don't put shit in your body you don't need. How are you TRP endorsed? To me this is the opposite of red pill mentality. Work on yourself, you don't need drugs to "turn into a fucking rockstar" to get sex on the first date...fucking disgusting, this.
Mr_Get_Right 8y ago
Never underestimate the power of the perspective shift. That being said, I wouldn't rely on drugs for fucking someone. Or alcohol.
Once you graduate from trp (and use it as a reference instead of a bible), you know what's going to get you fucking the chicks you want?
You. And every single day will be a good, peaceful, beautiful day of progress because you turned happiness into a science. Life becomes something to immerse yourself into instead of escape from.
Do drugs responsibly, because you're a scientist trying to change the world, not a fucking victim trying to survive. Do whatever you want. Trust your instincts because you aren't a lazy fat animal when you turn off your brain. Your ego is a tool, the concept of you is a tool...
But it's not serious. It's just for funsies. And by not wasting your energy on fantasies, you gain every bit of that power to use in the moment.
Lots of love brothers. We're all in this together.
burkhart722 8y ago
Drugs are great. Loosen up over there cowboy.
ELLEN_POO 8y ago
You know that the OP recommends drug use as well right? Apply yourself.
primo_pastafarian 8y ago
I think the TRP mentality is about taking charge of your life, and not being lazy, and not using video games or masturbating or laziness as a vice or a crutch.
Ultimately, if you are responsible enough and intelligent about whatever you do, then you should be able to do whatever you want. Because the world is yours, if you can reach out and take it.
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Clint_Redwood 8y ago
Remember DARE? How they taught us that if you smoke weed you'll end up on meth by the time your 20 and destroy your life? Ya the only time I see someone destroy their life on weed is when the government destroys their life because they have weed.
Just because the government and society tells you shit is dangerous or will kill you doesn't mean the statistics are actually there to back it up.
In a 7 year study from 1994-2001 a total of 205 five people died from ecstasy related complications. Ecstasy is also a harder form of MDMA usually cut with cocaine or heroine so the study isn't strictly MDMA which is not the exact same as ecstasy.
Here is a chart for the lazy that puts the death risk in comparison to tobacco or alcohol.
In 2014 only 50 deaths where reported in the UK for ecstasy use, which again is a hard form of MDMA.
Quit your concerned trolling, part of TRP is being a fucking adult and being responsible for yourself. I'm not going to sensor my personal experience and finding because it hurts your feelings. Do your own research and stop believing all the bullshit propaganda sells you. Stats and studies are a much better alternative then personal beliefs and opinions based on indoctrination.
I'm not telling someone to go pop a molly every weekend. I'm telling them if they are hard case introverts like me, MDMA is a great way to actually experience your true potential for charisma and how sociable you can be. When i first did it I was amazed that I could even be so engaging. It put shit into perspective. It showed me what I can become without drugs. I've don't MDMA twice and I've never touched another drug in my life. All i wanted was a window into my potential. The rest is earned from hard work and dedication.
NoIamNotARobot 8y ago
You've never been into a psychiatric clinic, have you?
Unless you discovered a way to identify people who are high risk for psychosis, then suggesting that a possible trigger is completely safe is stupid.
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NoIamNotARobot 8y ago
Maybe I wasn't clear enough(I assumed you've known this). You can be completely normal(not a mental patient), and after using it chronic psychosis disorders(including schizophrenia) could manifest. You can't know in advance who will be this person. So, yes you do take that risk when using it. Basically this happens because a part of the population has a preexisting genetic vulnerability. However, there is no way to predetermine this part.
walkingthelinux 8y ago
Did this get posted here by accident? More like bluepill to stuff to me.
vandaalen 8y ago
Yeah... No.
I prefer paying a hooker then.
Much less time and energy invested, no bullshitting and no games played, sex 100% and if you do your research also 100% guaranteed satisfaction by getting the sex the way you want it, no risks for fucking with someone who is intoxicated.
LukeMooney 8y ago
who's intoxicated after 4 drinks?
if you prefer prostitutes more power to you, this post was about having sex with women that aren't paid.
vandaalen 8y ago
You paid with your time AND your money. How is that free?
LukeMooney 8y ago
I didn't say it was free. I just said the post is about trying to lay girls on a first date - that you don't pay, or should I say, don't pay directly - but I think you know this and prefer prostitutes. Fine - I dnt have a problem with that.
honorableRP 8y ago
My plate is tiny, 5'1", she gets intoxicated after 1-2 drinks. I gave her a double shot of liquor and she was feeling really good, any more and she would have started to get really sloppy.
LukeMooney 8y ago
Think bell curve. Congrats on having a plate though
YayPot 8y ago
Because there is no risk in fucking/finding a prostitute, that's for damn sure!! Good thinking....
vandaalen 8y ago
Not in a free country like the one I live in. No.
YayPot 8y ago
Damnnnnn youuuuuuuuu! Lmfao what a terrible conditioning to have to think
Ducksfornipples2 8y ago
what about the herpes or HPV? Condoms don't protect against either. Vaccines may protect against HPV but who really knows (they only protect 9 out of 100s of strains)
vandaalen 8y ago
I'd even consider the risk to be higher with a random tinder slut who sucked a random Chad's dick on the club toilet just the night before you date her. A professional's body is her capital and she will look out for it. Plus here in Germany hookers are legal and they have to get regular health checks.
Also nobody said you should kiss and lick that hoe.
Ducksfornipples2 8y ago
well there you go. Germany is probably cheaper and safer then in America. You don't even know how lucky you are
and agreed that a tinder slut has a much higher chance of giving you something than a legal hooker
BoyWhoreWithASword 8y ago
Nothing wrong with banging on the 1st date but I've recently decided to stop trying first date lays. Unless I've been exposed to the girl already through social circle/mutual friends/work/school, I won't try to fuck on the first date.
If I met the girl from cold approach I attempt the 2nd date fuck.
This is the system endorsed by blackdragonblog and I suggest many of you look into it. The first date lay can be overrated in my opinion.
IIlllIllIIIllIl 8y ago
Hey man, simple question. When at the boring question talk stage, how do you answer her "what about you?" and still remain mysterious?
SimpleHomme 8y ago
Give short, spare answers and understate.
starting_oveRP 8y ago
When they come out cold with a question like that, or it's a subject change, I usually treat it like a shit test and give a stupid made-up answer. Then they laugh (or not) and then I feed 'em the truth.
I take it as an opportunity to gauge their attention level/interest in me.
It also has the added bonus that you are not giving up your information just because she asked - she had to work a little.
I don't do this all night, that would get tiring, but definitely at first when the subject changes to me.
I've made my life a pretty cool thing, so I'm always ready to share what I do, but it's fun to give them a little shit test of my own.
IIlllIllIIIllIl 8y ago
Gotcha. That's how I feel about my life, but the line between my life is constantly interesting and mysterious I couldn't find.
LukeMooney 8y ago
For the normal social boring questions I just answer plainly - trying to be mysterious in this phase I find just makes it weird.
IIlllIllIIIllIl 8y ago
Right, that's what I have found.
Swoledinger 8y ago
Paying for a girls drinks shows you're paying for her time. I basically never pay for a girls drinks. After close to 1000 first dates I can say for me, I have a much higher success rate when I don't pay. About twice a year I might buy a girl the first drink and it just never works out well.
Between the girl I'm on a date with and myself, I'm the funny one, the interesting one, and the one that arranged the meeting. The least she can do is pay for my drinks. And typically they do.
Really, if you need to pay for a girls drinks to help your chances... Maybe your game is a little weak. Nothing inherently wrong with it. You're just using money as a substitute for other things.
LukeMooney 8y ago
you're on close to a 1000 dates, yet if you pay for the first drink it just never works out well??? Seems a little weird.
Swoledinger 8y ago
I get no benefit I would not have otherwise received. I am getting zero return on my investment. Yes, that investment does not work out well.
LukeMooney 8y ago
Sound a bit negative - but hey - whatever works for you bro
JustSkipAhead 8y ago
Don't ask her what she wants, just say "hey, I go for the first round" then give her a blink and ask her to find a nice place were you can sit and chat. Go to the bar and order a drink for both of you. Example order a Mojito or some girly cocktail drink to her and she will shine up like a sun when you arrive with the drinks.
But good post, I usually do exactly what you have written. A small pre-drink, dress up fancy but casual and meet up the girl at a nice cocktail bar, chat a bit then go from there to my place were we fucks like rabbit if everything goes as planned.
LukeMooney 8y ago
cheers. it's a thing of beauty once you get good at it and can actually enjoy the whole experience.
JustSkipAhead 8y ago
Yes indeed and it's not hard at all.
Dank_Meems 8y ago
You lost me at double cheek kiss double hand hold. Wtf is this beta shit...
LukeMooney 8y ago
Lol! I said it was an advanced move! It's really difficult to see how it could be alpha unless you see me do it. Never mind!
Dank_Meems 8y ago
All I picture with that move is two french dudes meeting for brunch.
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Keninishna 8y ago
You haven't experimented with beta blockers or Xanax.
LukeMooney 8y ago
Yeah I have. Many times with beta blockers. No never with Xanax
pikachufan2222 8y ago
There's a problem with this for me. I don't ever plan on drinking. Any adjustments to the steps for someone like me? (Note: Not legal to drink. Only 17.)
SimpleHomme 8y ago
These steps work without alcohol. Treat them as guidelines rather than rules.
You're not trying to disable some woman with alcohol in order to prey on her; alcohol just aids social interaction. That's why people drink and converse. It opens them up.
Attraction itself is intoxicating enough. Bars are unnecessary.
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Taft_Jackson 8y ago
Do not listen to the troll.
Phyzis 8y ago
Luke Mooney the wearable robotics guy?
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CaptainIncredible 8y ago
What? Viagra or something?
LukeMooney 8y ago
Listen to the podcast all is explained and is hilarious. Redbam takes elephant horn and black stallion. Mine are Chinese but have pics of really jacked guys on the front. Not viagra, Feels more like cialis, and variations of that.
Also you'll need to YouTube search JRE 784 to find it . Enjoy
Splyced 8y ago
Loved this one. Redban is so crazy.
LukeMooney 8y ago
The bit where he talks about the girl who talks like a girl he a fucking her and says weird shit to her like "have you done your homework @ was hilarious
thor_away92 8y ago
This is all excellent advice not sure why everyone is acting like they know better. The best takeaways I got from this was shit I've been contemplating on.
meeting a stranger with mild anxiety is natural and actually benefits both parties
you gotta warm people up before you get deep (how to win friends and influence people)
you've pretty much won if she shows up at the date, just be naturally masculine and express your sexual intent/desires openly and subtly
LukeMooney 8y ago
your takeaway is what I was hoping for - seems like a lot of people got a bit caught up in arguing about drug use and rape accusations.
Once I realized this - everything became a lot easier
Also think a lot of the hate comes from butt hurt guys that don't get any - but hey - I could be wrong
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first time i did it, i broke every one of these rules except maybe 3.
wore ill-fitting pants, sneakers with holes, and my least awful t-shirt.
showed up sober. not a big deal.
opened with a hug. talked for about 10 seconds and headed to the bar. it was full, so we went to another one.
went to 1 bar. i invited her to walk to my house after that (~20 min walk)
we each paid for what we had.
had pints of stout.
told her all sorts of things you probably shouldn't. that i had a gf, no job, and how i was due for an acid trip.
asked her if she wanted to go to my house to get high and make out. she said you can't just ask someone that. then we went and did exactly that. (didn't kiss her until we got there)
same as 8
that said, you should definitely be aware of how these things are supposed to go. you can either follow it, or indicate that you know how to follow the script while deviating from it. (you do need to deviate from her script. not necessarily a lot, but don't let her predict exactly how the night will play out)
LukeMooney 8y ago
omg - you must have some stories!
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acid will do three main things:
ThumpNuts 8y ago
Acid has a promising track record of helping people with addictions, especially alcoholism. There are many studies being conducted now.
QPRCHOC 8y ago
I think this is a case of over-analysis. If it's going to happen it has to happen fluidly and spontaneously. You can't obsess over all these steps. Also, to the guys who are just discovering TRP, don't get preoccupied with sex on the first date if it's not your main objective. Focus on frame and leading.
LukeMooney 8y ago
I've just been on so many dates - it occurred to me how much information I have and wanted to share it with the sub. I do 90% of what I wrote subconsciously- it was only when I began to write I realised how much I actually knew about first dates.
And, I think there is merit in the post, because I have tried to include specific details that can be actioned rather than simply - improve frame - Which could be a bit ambiguous for newbies.
Regardless - there have been lots of comments about cooking skills - so I happy to have something new to improve on.
QPRCHOC 8y ago
I didn't mean to offend. It's all great info, but these things have to happen naturally. I'm sure every successful man employs these principles. But for some guys just starting out I imagine they'd stress themselves out wondering when to kiss, what to wear, how to tackle shit tests, when to escalate etc.
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SimpleHomme 8y ago
I like this post, but it's a difficult thing to incorporate your advice directly into one's routine. Maybe what you've listed are habits one develops through experience.
Nevertheless, they're interesting observations. I don't think this is overanalysis, but I think it could definitely lead to overanalysis with the wrong mindset.
LukeMooney 8y ago
Totally agree - it's my personal experience- if someone can take one little piece and make it their own, great. Just reading the comments I've already seen there's a lot of room for my improvement.
Lozzerat 8y ago
I think passing shit tests and getting past LMR in the bedroom is also a big sticking point for most guys. Neil Strauss has some really good tricks to help seal the deal in this situations, but it all boils down to frame.
LukeMooney 8y ago
True - passing shit tests is like a philosophy though, takes years to master. I wanted to give some concrete tips that most guys here would be able to apply. Strauss is just a legend, I'll always go back to the game and re-read it, brilliant piece.
ECoast_Man 8y ago
Indeed.
It's obviously something that comes with experience but I find it's usually overcome by gradually increasing physical contact.
'No? Well let's check this show out...' Or whatever, and start with an arm around if she's really prickly. Normally you can go right to spooning if you've made it this far, and then it's just escalating.
definitelynotaclone 8y ago
This needs to be elaborated. This is my single biggest problem in my game. I cannot find the occasion where this feels natural, ever. And I end up betaing out of too many dates where I just didn't find the moment to try and kiss her.
JustSkipAhead 8y ago
You will know the feeling, you just know. Can't explain it in words but it feels like you two have a bound, a connection or something drags you closer to her.
I also look for some hints before I go all in. If she bite her lips, looks at my lips or just show interest. Always study her face and frame.
askmrcia 8y ago
Dude I'll help you out since I've been in your shoes. What made me succussfuly at first kisses is at the end of the date.
If you feel that the date is going smoothly then just go for it. Don't back down.
I'll give you two scenarios of when I'm successful and when I'm rejected.
When I'm successful, I either drop them off at their house, or car or whatever. I hug them for a good 5 seconds. Then I slowly let them go and I look into their eyes. Then I just lean in and kiss them.
Now I've done that exact same thing and some girls would turn their head and make me kiss them on the cheek or they will give me some weak peck on the lips. When that happens, I be like "Really, its like that, that weak ass kiss."
I'll say it laughing. Now sometimes they will lean back in. If they don't then just move on.
There is no right time for me. I just go for it. I dated this girl like 3 weeks ago. I hugged her and simply said out loud "fuck it I'm just going to go for it." We made out in the parking lot. Had sex with her on the next weekend.
LukeMooney 8y ago
All I can say is - for me - I get the feeling she wants me to kiss her - when I was more inexperienced I would question this feeling - now - as soon as I get that feeling - I go for it!
ItsTheHomeWrecker 8y ago
It doesn't matter whether you get the kiss or not - it is the intent that matters.
You go for the kiss, she turns her head and you get the cheeks. Win.
Go for the kiss and she says too fast. Win.
Go for the kiss and get it. Win.
Intent is what matters. Give her time to think about it and try again.
Verve11 8y ago
Great point. Every newbie here should understand this.
I used to get terrible anxiety about the first kiss, scared they would reject me. It was a breakthrough when I realized exactly your point. You win regardless.
starting_oveRP 8y ago
This is very important advice. I've gotten the cheek a few times. Never felt bad about trying, and usually the body language has still been positive: cuddling against me, my arm around her, etc. Never has she removed herself, and that to me means I should definitely try again.
When it happens I usually frame it like this:
"Oh yeah, we shouldn't be kissing in the middle of this bar. I'll kiss you when there's less people watching so I can do it how I like."
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JohnnyRaz 8y ago
Hey man don't knock stuff like pain killers or addys, etc. I can't tell you how much pussy that type of shit allowed people to slay before They had any confidence or knowledge of red pill
tedcase 8y ago
Good post. One extra tip I cannot stress highly enough:
Always start the date st your own place. Get the girl to meet you at yours and go on to your destination from there. The eventual goal of course is to get her back to your place later, if she has already been there it is so much easier. Obviously make certain that your home is spotless and well maintained.
This won't work of course if you live with your parents. Stop living with your parents.
Your_Coke_Dealer 8y ago
I'll take this as an "if possible" suggestion. If possible, having the girl starts at your place puts her in your frame. Even if you'd come off as too fast trying to bang her right when she meets at your place, starting there sets you up for her to come back there after bars.
But that isn't always possible, because if you haven't generated enough interest yet (i.e. You don't know her yet), inviting her to your place has the same effect as going for the close too soon. It's perceived as "hey, wanna fuck?" If you are already acquainted, like from class or something, start at your place. Otherwise, put her in your frame elsewhere. Have a mutual friend introduce you (puts her guard down or puts you in her mind from the start, just like starting in your place), and lead her to bars from there.
I like OP's style; slow/deliberate, and methodical but never hesitant. My best experiences have always been leading a girl throughout a night to a hookup. Anything jumped on at the last minute (if not just cockblocked soon after) is going to be drunken sloppiness or a tinder date where she wanted to fuck from the get-go (no game involved, misses half the fun). And anything too slow doesn't happen
AutisticusMaximus 8y ago
The pretext for meeting at my place first was always easier to establish if I invited her for an actual event with a start time; a concert, a band I like starts playing at a bar at 21h, I tell her to meet a little early at my place.
I told her I like the band (art performance, whatever) beforehand and I'm going there anyway, she gets the (correct) assumption I'm not skipping it, even for sex.
Organizing a generic "night out" bar hopping and inviting someone to your place sounds like you're trying to skip the whole mating ritual and would rather stay inside and bang, which might put them off.
_TheRP 8y ago
If you've got a nice car, pick her up>your place. Nice cars drop panties.
DennisReynoldsAMA 8y ago
Kinda hard to just stop living with your parents when you're a high schooler, goddamnit. I can't do half the shit in this thread cause I don't have my own place and I'm 18.
tedcase 8y ago
I moved out of my parents house at 18.
Moved to a whole other continent at age 21.
LukeMooney 8y ago
Yeah - I've read this on numerous occasions, just never had the balls to do it. Will in future!
thor_away92 8y ago
There's actually some shit you can observe to see if you even need to leave the house to bed her.
If she comes inside with her shoes on and stands in the doorway, no go.
If she comes inside and sits down (with her shoes on) offer her a drink and start chatting.
Always answer the door shirtless and without shoes like you still need to finish getting ready. Adds time.
"Come on it I still gotta get ready (she sits down) Can I offer you a glass of wine? (While heading back to finish getting dressed)"
Same process as the bar but you didn't even have to leave the house.
EnlightenedViking 8y ago
I'm with you on reading her signals - not about answering the door shirtless. I prefer a fitted shirt to maker her wonder
evian_mars 8y ago
How exactly do you arrange that though?
All I can think of is as long as your place is in a pretty social area then you could say 'oh just meet me at mine and then we'll head from there'. Even then most girls will probably just message when they're close by to say they're outside.
prime_zero 8y ago
I do this too. You can make up all sorts of excuses as to why. "I need to change shirts", " I need to pick something up / leave something", "Drop your car there, I'll drive", " Need to feed my dog", etc.
Making a point that it's just a pit stop, and I'm not trying to avoid going out - when we've just met. Buuuuuut if it leads to staying in, so be it
_nrm 8y ago
All of the reasons you suggested would be out of frame and stray from the romanticism of the date. Best not.
prime_zero 8y ago
Beg to differ, except feeding the dog. It's my frame and I'm also very busy most of the time. I'm leading, setting expectations. It may also come down to age differences as I'm in my 30s, and go after younger girls. It could also be geographical differences, eg. Smallish city vs large metropolitan area.
At the end of the day, this has worked for me on many occasions.
rothkochapel 8y ago
Avoid drugs before hand, cocaine makes you talk shit, your eyes look wide and they can sense something is off almost immediately. MDMA makes you seem too laid back and dreamy.
I don't really agree, at least not with MDMA. If you can handle it, taking a small hit makes the date much more enjoyable (for you, especially if you're bored with dates to begin with). And it can elevate your sexual energy to a level where you lose all inhibition, which can be good thing depending on the connection you have with the girl. If she seems uptight, abort mission.
LukeMooney 8y ago
MMmmmmm I disagree, I think the importance of connection is paramount, and if you're buzzing on cloud 9, it makes that more difficult. I'm not saying its impossible, I've actually laid a first date, after dropping a bomb about 20 mins before, so I was literally coming up whilst talking to her. But I don't recommend it.
--HankMoody-- 8y ago
This is a kick ass post. I love to see some old school game discussed with such mastery. Thanks OP, it is like you have taken me back to basics. I also love all the cooking comments. One trick which has worked for me when the texts start getting flirty is to tell her I am coming to her place and she can cook me dinner for our first date. This one works like a charm but it scares lots of girls off so use judiciously.
Take a bottle of wine with you, maybe even flowers. When I go usually I end up drinking more of her wine than I have bought with me. They also try hard to cook something expensive. Do everything right and you get breakfast as well. Plus you get to sleep in her nice smelling "girl bedroom". I love that shit.
LukeMooney 8y ago
The comments about cooking have been my biggest takeaway from this, it feels nice to have a whole new area to focus on. And cheers for the compliment - it means a lot.
CornyHoosier 8y ago
For the record, I agree with everything you wrote, but I'd like to add on a hint to this part for others:
This is critical. As you mentioned, she will likely be a little nervous and will feed off of your frame. One of the greatest tips I ever got was from a drunk woman at a bar I was talking to. She told me, "Stop shaking your fucking leg. It makes you look nervous."
That's when I realized that 'ticks' matter. Shaking your leg, ripping up "things" around you, not making eye contact, touch your hair/face, rubbing a body part, etc. ALL of these things make it look like you lack confidence. So then I looked into how people literally view me. How I sit, how I emulate others, how I talk, when I talk, where I'm looking, what my body is doing, what my face, mouth and brow are doing.
Next time you're on your date and she walks in, try this:
Be chatting up a stranger or bartender nearby or look up something funny on your phone and be smiling/laughing. This makes you seem more sociable and puts you in a lighter state of mind.
Learn to lean. James Dean was fucking cool. James Dean always leaned. Go Google image search him now if you don't believe me. Leaning signifies relaxation and ease in your surroundings. No one leaning back gives a shit about what's going on around them. Look at the people at tables or the bar ... they're all hunched over or rail-straight. Hunching makes you look frumpy.
Smile, son! When you're meeting someone that you're unsure of yet (but you think may be attracted to you) there isn't much better than a big toothy grin. Also, learn to smile with your eyes. I've had plenty of women tell me I have "warm eyes". I wasn't sure what that meant so started studying others. Keeping your brow and eyes wide makes you seem more open and attentive.
Good luck y'all!
LukeMooney 8y ago
Cheers mate.
Yeh agree, smiling and eye contact are for sure very telling.
_nrm 8y ago
Nice comment. Frame is definitely a state of mind but it needs to transfer to your body language.
ThePursuitOfPerfect 8y ago
I'm currently in a LTR but I practice flirting through eye contact. I stare at cute girls like I have them at my place ready to destroy them in bed. Usually the girl will get timid and shy in a cute, innocent way. Basically I give them tingles with my eyes.
TomFoo 8y ago
Also lift. Fill up your shirt nicely. And live on your own in a decent part of town.
theimmortalmortal 8y ago
I avoid fucking an intoxicated girl who I barely know. That's a rape accusation waiting to happen.
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naMlliPdeR 8y ago
Then you're completely missing out.
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_the_jews_did_911 8y ago
Only in colleges where the vast majority of people know both parties, so to avoid blame and guilt, rape accusation is the only way out.
PrinceofSpades 8y ago
That's honestly what it is; women who create false allegations (not those who are actually raped, which RARELY happens in college [although does happen to college-aged women]) do so to protect their own social value. The perception of themselves as seen by others has always been the most significant part of any woman's subconcious drive.
"Oh my god Becky fucked another guy?" "Wow Becky I can't believe you, you're such a slut lol" "What, no! I wouldn't never... He... Made me do it!" "OMG BECKY WAS RAPED" "OMG" "OMG I WAS RAPED!"
JustSkipAhead 8y ago
Don't get her drunk, just tipsy.
_nrm 8y ago
Excellent. The biggest mistake I think people make is getting too inebriated that they can't hold frame.
_nrm 8y ago
You're only the victim of a rape accusation of you are regrettable. You have to be that golden eagle that came out of nowhere, where in the morning she still feels slutty but like she was slutty for Zac Efron or something.
theimmortalmortal 8y ago
lol what. You're the victim of a rape accusation if she decides later on that she didn't want to have sex with you. A court can find you guilty on the grounds that she was intoxicated, no matter if you were or weren't. Also, First date sex, im not letting her sleep with me..we're going separate ways after its over.
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Ducksfornipples2 8y ago
but college girls are the only age group I want to sleep with..
OrpheusV 8y ago
Burner phone, fake ID/name, and not fucking at your own place. Should solve the issue.
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Vincent-thelimabean 8y ago
https://beyondfake.su - reputable vendor, no age limits and pay with Bitcoin. These have holograms and scan correctly.
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DavidEdwardsUK 8y ago
Not really, they have to deal with creepy and shitty guys. And we (clearly not you) get to pick which of the women we want...
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PrinceofSpades 8y ago
Typical American female single ritual: New guy, same ritual of getting picked up and tossed around, 1x-2x a weekend, every weekend, until one guy is dumb enough to commit, for 8 (and really more like 13) years, between 22 and 35. At least that's how big cities seem to go.
Speaking of which, where's my gym card? I had some plate surprise me with pie and sex last night... And now I'm feeling small and in need of testosterone to get ready for this weekend.
sigh you all need to lighten up; I'm just trying to make crippling body dismorphia jokes over here and yet the downvotes keep coming in hahaha
_nrm 8y ago
You sound like a plate to me, kid.
PrinceofSpades 8y ago
Oh? I wasn't aware calling a girl and saying "come over, I'm horny" then telling her to leave immediately after cumming on her face made me a plate, but that's a nice sentiment, friend.
The pie was the surprise, mate. Knowing she spent however much time it takes to bake a pie for the sole purpose of bringing it to me in an attempt to make me happy and win me over (a commitment play) is definite proof that I'm the one getting used here... Right.
_nrm 8y ago
You sounds upset. You should take a second to reflect.
PrinceofSpades 8y ago
Hahaha yes, definitely. The second I let internet posts from people who can't even properly differentiate between "sound" and "sounds" get 'my panties in a bunch,' I'll be sure to do just that mate. You really crack me up, friend :D
I guess I could take a second to reflect on how great my life currently is after years of hard work and dedication to get to this point, but that might inflate my ego even further, and I certainly don't want the plates to think I'm some kind of cocky asshole, ri.... Oh wait, no, that's exactly it. That's exactly what I want them to think because they eat that shit up and always come crawling back for more. Usually physically, on their hands and knees with something cute in their mouths, because I'm a sick fuck like that. Man do they love that.
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LongJohnTom 8y ago
Apparently the rule is if you are intoxicated that night too just as she is, they cannot file rape accusations and it will be consensual. But if your sober and she's drunk than its a different story. Just make sure you have one drink that night and a bartender or someone sees. And also give her a fake name for when they try to find you on social media. If enough time passes without them getting ahold of you they will just forget the night.
DoofusCPA 8y ago
Bullshit. All it takes is an accusation and a blurb in the local media coverage - guy's life is ruined.
Fake name? You really through this through. If you take her up to apartment XXX even if she doesn't remember the exact number, she'll at least have some idea what you look like. Cops are retards too, they'll post your description everywhere, ask the landlord - probably take half an hour to find who you are and where you live.
LongJohnTom 8y ago
Well that opened up my eyes, sorry guess I was thinking like a blue pill again. Makes sense in all honesty.
yougonnagetit 8y ago
Anybody reading this please do not think both of you being drunk helps AT ALL.
SecularNotLiberal 8y ago
When I matriculated at my college, I had to go to a "date rape" seminar. They asked us if it was rape if the guy was drunk and so was the girl. I was one of the few who raised my hand for "no" and I was given dirty looks. Mind you, this was a more conservative school too.
Technically yes, if you're both drunk, neither can consent. But that doesn't stop rape allegations because many people believe otherwise.
I think if someone has had 1-2 drinks (not huge ones) and still has their wits about them and can consent, it's okay. But anymore than that, no.
yougonnagetit 8y ago
Well I'm not talking hypotheticals, I'm saying legally, both of you being drunk doesn't help an alleged rapist.
Example: "victim" claims they was too drunk to consent even if at the time they weren't, Johnny Cochran can't disprove that after the fact if some type of test wasn't done that night, it's a question of the victim's credibility at that point.
If the "rapist" in defense says "well I was also blackout drunk" that doesn't change anything. Voluntary intoxication isn't a defense to rape, you essentially have to argue that the victim wasn't too drunk to consent, the alleged rapists level of intoxication has no bearing.
Again, moral issues aside, I'm talking strictly legally. There may be some weird state that accepted voluntary intoxication as a defense but I never came across it and my law professor didn't mention it, in fact he explicitly said it wasn't a defense anywhere in the US.
trumpisafaggybeta 8y ago
Agreed-- there's plenty of pussy to be gotten without it being piss-drunk. Campus or not, it's an easy rape accusation; not worth the risk, and people on this subreddit need to start realizing that
PrinceofSpades 8y ago
I think people on this subreddit are actively trying to become attractive enough individuals, to the point that women approach us, to avoid having to ever deal with a false rape accusation ever.
One could argue when your value is that high, and you don't commit, you're even more likely to face one, which is also why the psychology taught here should provide enough dread, dark triad, Machiavellian, and/or self-awareness to gather hard evidence that we prevent it altogether before it ever has a chance to rear its ugly head.
I'd argue that we here, who made ourselves into alphas but were in all likelihood not naturals, would fare far better against a false rape allegation than a natural alpha ever would, because he's still unaware of all sides of a woman's true nature... He just knows women are attracted to him and what to do and say to sleep with them without getting attached. There aren't many of us here who genuinely have thoughts such as "play ball good," but we do identify that if we did think that way, we'd probably have gotten laid a lot easier growing up.... then married to a woman who wanted us as their trophy, only to get bored after betafication, to find herself out at the bar same as the rest of them.
trumpisafaggybeta 8y ago
Whether or not she approaches you doesn't matter, since they can spring a false accusation on you either way; like you said, hard evidence is the key. Moreover, avoiding women with red flags (e.g. drunk/high), is also key to avoid the situation entirely. There are ways to get your dick wet without compromising your life/reputation in the process
PrinceofSpades 8y ago
I didn't mean to allude to the fact that a woman approaching you instead means no rape accusation, merely that many of us within this community are striving towards that level of attractiveness, internally and externally. When a woman doesn't think you are creepy or regrettable, she's much less likely to throw the rape word around.
trumpisafaggybeta 8y ago
It depends entirely on circumstance imho. If it is discovered by her beta male/female friends that she slept with you, and she has since felt buyer's remorse, then it doesn't matter how non-creepy or non-regrettable you were, as protecting her reputation becomes paramount. Remember the hamster can bend a scenario at any time to its choosing. It doesn't matter how "empowered" she becomes-- the shame of a sexual past is something that every woman doesn't want disclosed.
PrinceofSpades 8y ago
"How many guys have you slept with?" "5" "LOL, next"
almostayearinthered 8y ago
Bar crawl is so key. Switching venues builds attraction and makes the date more exciting to the girl. And tbh is more fun for me too
LukeMooney 8y ago
Agree. I often take dates on routes I've done countless times before in the exact same order, followed by my bed. sometimes I mix the order up depending on weather, or preference. Love taking them for walkies, somehow they feel compelled to sleep with me when I do this.
SoRedSuchAlpha 8y ago
Lots of good stuff here. Curious about this: "Greet with big smile, open arms, double cheek kiss to double hand hold <- advanced move."
In what countries/cultures would you do this? Everywhere? Is there a longer explanation somewhere?
LukeMooney 8y ago
Everywhere. The smile I've found is completely universal. Different cultures have different social norms for greeting, but if your frame is strong enough, you can do whatever you want and people will just fall in to it.
drallcom3 8y ago
Cloths can be cheap too, as long as they fit well. In combination with a fit body you can make almost anything work.
As for the drinks, don't drink too much. It can easily kill your dick. Collect some experience on that topic beforehand.
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Forcetobereckonedwit 8y ago
Great tips Uncle Luke. I also throw out a compliment early on, but something different. Find something you like about her and tell her. "You have really nice skin." and reach in for the touch on her forearm. "You have pretty hands. They're so feminine." "I love your hair" " You have great style." Something they don't hear all day every day. "I like the way your mind works." always works for me. Remember, just one, early on.
LukeMooney 8y ago
Ok. I'm gonna try that one compliment early on. I must admit I rarely give them since TRP, maybe its time to get complimenting! And thanks, really appreciate it.
Forcetobereckonedwit 8y ago
I works a charm. You just give it earnestly, but then move on and forget it, leaving the usual fawning attitude behind with it. It percolates in their minds ever after. Never tell them they're pretty, or sexy.
phate0451 8y ago
OP's guide to subprime pussy.
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NotReallyEthicalLOL 8y ago
Yeah honestly this post was just terrible
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Drumfreak14 8y ago
Great read with reputable sources. Thank you.
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EpicLevelCheater 8y ago
Instead of complaining, post something good of your own.
wiseprogressivethink 8y ago
What if she's too heavy to pick up with one arm?
Kazuke86 8y ago
read and lift more, obviously
LukeMooney 8y ago
you still use both arms the other is round her back, but yeah if she's too heavy, then don't attempt. just push her backwards towards the bed and hope it doesn't break
wiseprogressivethink 8y ago
I was sort of making a fat girl joke myself, but thanks for the reply.
NoIamNotARobot 8y ago
Unfortunately, no one has ever fucked on the first date without picking the chick up in the air.
You fucked up. Sorry #FactsOnly
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Andythegriffin 8y ago
I've only recently stumbled across TRP and I'm getting mixed signals. Some of the posts made in response to the "Subreddit of the Day" announcement resonated well with me, but posts like this make me question the ethos here. Can some of the other users fill me in on how typical posts like this are here (i.e., "don't be a faggot, get her drunk")?
LukeMooney 8y ago
when I said faggot I meant nothing against homosexuals, on the contrary I have a lot of time for the gay community, particularly men. In this example faggot simply means "bitch" "dick" "moron". Chris Rock has a joke or shit it might be Chappelle about shouting "faggot!" at someone in the car in-front who is sitting in his car at a green light not moving. (it has nothing to do with sexuality - when I used it meant "tight-bitch" really)
Get her drunk - there are many levels of intoxication. In this post I recommend alcohol as a means to lower inhibitions for both male and female in order to aid the desire of sexual intercourse at the end of the date. Please note - I'm not encouraging date rape or anything untoward, I am being realistic. Also note _ I say to have 3-4 drinks.
mild_rumpus 8y ago
Nothing in the post advocates getting your date wasted. Loosening up with drinks is like the most common first date there is. He's spelling it out for sad clueless boys who didn't have a dad to tell them this stuff. i think your interpretation of this ordinary advice as predatory says more about your preconceived notions of this forum & dating in general.
The faggot comment is bc some dudes on this site are afraid of being used and absolutely won't buy a girl anything so he's making fun of them.
Andythegriffin 8y ago
I definitely have preconceived notions. I'm not coming here to shitpost, though - I'm trying to challenge those notions. The "faggot" comment, to me, read like accusing somebody of being gay because they don't want to buy girls drinks. I see now I was wrong in that.
And I don't really see this as predatory (though, I get the sense that this forum is advocating predation on at least SOME level). I just found that particular suggestion less insightful and more common sense. Maybe I just took for granted that not everybody understands that alcohol is a good social lubricant.
My point is that I'm trying to assess how much of this forum is meaningful self improvement and how much is just about getting laid.
Kazuke86 8y ago
a commonly repeated phrase around here is "take what works for you, leave the rest"
Basically, we're all trying to figure things out. Not all advice is universal. Some of the advice here is not to my liking and I choose to ignore it. I try to focus on content from contributors with flair. Even out of them, there are some flaired contributors I prefer.
I've only been here a few months myself so I don't speak for everyone, but "self improvement/getting laid" are somewhat inseparable here, at least as a starting point. The purpose of the sub is sexual strategy. The method is self-improvement.
To expound: by becoming a man of purpose, women will be drawn to you. Many find that when they become a man of purpose, suddenly getting women pales in comparison to their purpose, but its easy so why not have some fun along the way? Some even decide to forget about women, focus on their purpose and head over to the MGTOW sub
Unholy_VI 8y ago
I used to have these thoughts too.
This isn't like speed seduction where you use some weird hypnotic jedi mind trick on a woman to get ther to fuck you.
The entire redpill philosophy is to learn to look and behave like a man women would like to fuck. This includes some insights into her psychology but it doesn't involve manipulation. It involves lifting weights, learning to parse her language and pass the tests shes giving you without even realizing it and present yourself as a calm, fun, mysterious guy that would be a lot of fun to fuck.
How is that predatory exactly?
As to the alcohol thing, I have to agree. I've fucked a lot of women and I don't drink or use trying to get them to drink as part of my game. If this guy wants to, great. I learned some cool things from his post but that's one I won't be using.
To each their own.
mild_rumpus 8y ago
Ah I see. Yeah, didn't mean to condescend then, it's just the sort of point people intentionally misconstrue about TRP though.
I would disagree this site advocates predation. kind of semantic, but a predator in the sexual sense refers to deviants or criminals. The reality of masculinity is initiative, this site champions that without shame. But pursuing a girl & getting her hot is not like.. getting her black out drunk.
about your last point, honestly on a forum like this, getting your life to where you are well laid is the self improvement. They're not separate things.
You'll want to take what you read with a grain of salt, but Imo this site provides a cynical view of relationship that is pretty much a necessity for guys these days to navigate dating. The coarseness of the language of the frankness of the opinions is really a pushback against the culture that doesn't want this discussion in the first place.
Andythegriffin 8y ago
Yeah, I could have framed the question better. Thanks for the insight.
Ziiner 8y ago
"Weed makes you paranoid"
Maybe that's just a you problem dude
thor_away92 8y ago
You're new to smoking weed if this hasn't started happening to you yet.
Ziiner 8y ago
I've been smoking weed for a few years now.
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LukeMooney 8y ago
the first few years are bliss, at a certain point after you've been working in corporate land for a few years, I found it difficult to enjoy anymore. But hey, if you're happy its all good. I wasn't even saying smoking weed will make you paranoid, I was saying if you go to a first date stoned, you'll feel paranoid.
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rumovoice 8y ago
Try day game too. Not sure how it works in US but most of my plates come from SDLs.
LukeMooney 8y ago
Im UK - you're right I definitely need to break in to day game. Evening dates for me is in my comfort zone now.
starting_oveRP 8y ago
Day game is my next world to conquer - I'm still working on breaking the mental barrier of "don't talk to her right now, she's grocery shopping!"
rumovoice 8y ago
Well the worst thing that could happen is she rejects you and you will look awkward. But you will never see all those people again so why should you care?
Kaliskt 8y ago
Thank you sir for this post, just what I was looking for. I'm fairly new to the TRP and beginning my journey on self-improvement but it happened that one chick from my classes that I barely know, invited me over her place and I'm coming there on Friday and she even agreed that I can sleep at her place. I'll do whatever it takes to score, I've got nothing to lose.
LukeMooney 8y ago
Thanks mate. And good luck with your personal journey now you're here at trp. And obv - all the best with that chick!
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Vesperous 8y ago
Thank you for this great article bro! Not only have I in the past noticed that the things I have tried on this list have worked, but in addition, a lot of the things I have not tried, seem like a great idea! I definitely do agree on the part about seeing her, initiating contact as soon as you meet her, and making small talk as well. This makes it so much easier to avoid having things become awkward because these are just normal social things. Not to say you can still fuck and establish a good relationship if things are awkward, however everyone should avoid making things harder then they have to be ;). So thank you for this article, great content and great detail.
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GOATmar 8y ago
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO