There are men who think women are wonderful, that their girl wouldn't stray, and if she did cheat then they would sense it.
These men are wrong. She won't act guilty. She won't feel bad. In her mind, she did nothing wrong.
I've been in cabs with married women (after fucking) who shush me while they call their husbands to check on kids. Heard stories from another woman about her elaborate plans for her husbands surprise birthday party while gleefully getting pounded by yours truly. These women don't hate their husbands like Hollywood tells us. They consider them "best friends".
What does this mean for us?
1 Do not get married
2 You can't expect fidelity from a woman, it's just your turn, act accordingly.
3 if this post makes you upset then you don't yet understand the true nature of women.
TRPShill 8y ago
Proverbs 30:20 - "This is the way of an adulterous woman; she eats, and wipes her mouth, and says, I have done no wickedness"
Dudes had this shit figured out 2000 years ago
synthrockftw 8y ago
Good lord.
Proverbs is an excellent book. I try my best to avoid married women at all costs, as Proverbs preaches to not sleep with a married woman. Though I personally don't condone the behavior of the thread OP, it is truth none the less.
thefisherman1961 8y ago
There's a lot of good shit in the Bible
monsieurhire2 8y ago
What a great euphemism. "eats" "wipes mouth" . . . .
[deleted] 8y ago
Ecclesiastes 7:28: "Which yet my soul seeketh, but I find not: one [honest] man among a thousand have I found; but a woman among all those have I not found."
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Ecclesiastes 7:26: "And I find more bitter than death the woman, whose heart is snares and nets, and her hands as bands: whoso pleaseth God shall escape from her; but the sinner shall be taken by her."
Thizzlebot 8y ago
I googled that to see if you were lying thats pretty funny.
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Men invented marriage to try and lock down pussy. They hoped vows before God and community would keep her faithful.
Nope, it can't be done
Trengingigan 8y ago
Actually no. They knew very well that only community pressure, a life as a housewife, and the prospect of being stoned for adultery or repudiated with no alimony could keep most women from cheating.
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other_worlds 8y ago
Especially in this day and age, when the holy books are cherry picked by most all religions and "community" can be changed nearly entirely by moving five miles down the road.
I'm not pining for the days of 2000 years ago. Marriage is the end-all-be-all for some people, without realizing it's a temporary contract at best, with terms that can't be enforced or that are even respected by society anymore.
TheReformist94 8y ago
If its just our turn and we cant stop em cheating,why cant we cheat and not give a fuck? I just don't see the point in acting faithful OR being upfront and honest
thefisherman1961 8y ago
If the threat of eternal damnation can't stop hypergamy, then nothing can.
ItsCold_ItsCold 8y ago
Spending eternity in hell for Chad's cock was a good deal apparently.
sonofquetzalcoatl 8y ago
They can change of religion and poof they are born again virgins waiting for the parousia.
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yaardi 8y ago
I wonder how religious women hamster their cheating.
Philhelm 8y ago
Jesus already saved them, so they're good.
itsbooming 8y ago
Lol it didn't stop the first woman alive when God himself said:
Ok guys, you can live forever here in paradise. You will never worry about food, or the weather or anything really. Just do not fuck with the fruit on that tree.
She walked right up to it,and offered it to adam.
An old black truck driver once told me "Adam didn't lead Eve into that Garden, he followed her lead".
Looking back it's hard to blame a man for not originating the Hard Next when the pussy was literally the only pussy on earth.
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hahah Adam did not have abundance mentality.
SpaceShuttleGunner 8y ago
You know this story isn't real, right?
[deleted] 8y ago
Not the correct place for this behavior. This sub is neither religious nor non-religious.
itsbooming 8y ago
Well I don't "know" it's not real but by all logic and scientific reasoning it is not real. The message that bad things can happen when a man follows a woman 's lead are very much real.
TRPShill 8y ago
This was the beauty of Small communities though.
Some 80% of women believe in astrology.
When you have The pressure of actually believing you will go to hell eternally + Community regulating & gossiping about women's behavior, it's way more effective.
The more anonymity a woman has, the quicker she'll be to hop on strange cock.
Christianity was invented to provide guidelines for a society, and a lot of that involved warning men about the nature of women, as well as trying to scare their hypergamy + AF/BB model out of them
FatGirlsInPartyHats 8y ago
This is why I believe that the camera enabled cell phone and Facebook (internet in general) are the worst things to happen to monogamy in human history.
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You're right, and modern day religions do the same thing through Burkas, and fear of acid attacks. Which is a weaker form of control because it's direct and physical. Western christianity was kind to women and it was based on dread game. All they had to do was support their man and he would support her lifestyle and children. If they cheated they could be forgiven instead of stoned to death, but they still had eternal punishment if they didn't confess and repent to God. All the evil that has been tied to western Christianity actually came from the physical actions of the east.
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thredditsowaway 8y ago
ALL religions were invented to provide guidelines for societies, and ALL of them have some kind of marriage tradition. Not a coincidence.
Modified_Hackware 8y ago
People who are interested in this kind of topic should check out dark enlightenment subreddit.
hirjd 8y ago
And check out light endarkenment if you couldn't care less.
nofap314159 8y ago
I'm not sure that that's true. Do you have a source? This poll from 2005 says that in the US, 23% of men and 28% of women believe in astrology.
RPSigmaStigma 8y ago
It's been my experience that women are more prone to "magical thinking" than man. If not astrology, it's "positive thinking" or "karma" or whatever else mystical woo makes them feel less responsible for a) having to know how things actually work, or b) for the good or bad that happens in their life.
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TRPShill 8y ago
huh. I read 80 percent somewhere. It may be a statistic only for a certain age group. granted, I cant count how many girls Ive spoken to who will say that when asked, but have their sign in their profile and repost horoscopes all the time.
ufd 8y ago
83% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
49% of all people know that.
nofap314159 8y ago
It wouldn't surprise me if that number was much higher for women in their teens and twenties. I've had the same experience as you, they seem to be everywhere. I also tend to meet women who say that "everything happens for a reason." Maybe it's the kind of women I attract? shrug
If you find a breakdown by age, let me know.
TRPShill 8y ago
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1298&dat=19920401&id=Ue4QAAAAIBAJ&sjid=OowDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6693,125786&hl=en
Here we go! I was wrong. But, there is a big disparity in the gender distribution of who believes in it
nofap314159 8y ago
Thanks for the link! That explanation is interesting.
Captain_Unremarkable 8y ago
The rules about women submitting to their husbands, not speaking in church, and not being interacted with when menstruating, and more is precisely for this reason.
hirjd 8y ago
And how can we ever impose this on the feminist college professor woman who looks like Howard Stern? It's a good idea to lock down the women but... fuck.
Oh_FuFu 8y ago
Also not to forget about Polygamy.. Women and men had it different back in the day. Women were taught they could be replaced and so were men.
Why else do you think it was such a common thing for a person to have multiple wives? Women would rather share a balanced-natural Alpha than to lose him for good.
This shit also kept us in check. How else would these men be having multiples of wives without being alphas and dominant, passing shit tests with flying colors and some more?
druganswer 8y ago
multiple wives = built in dread, competition, and abundance.
Kazuke86 8y ago
that's it. I'm moving to Utah
Hoodwink 8y ago
Holy shit. You're probably right. They probably did notice that women would hop on alpha cock when menstruating as science shows now. They probably weren't icked about period blood (everything was dirty as hit back then). The ancient books have a ton of small pieces of wisdom in their rules.
leftajar 8y ago
The point of menstrual hits was to monitor women's fertility so that her husband could mate-guard more effectively. A researcher recently found that this practice was effective at reducing cuckoldry rates within a community.
Basically all religious restrictions on women boil down to ensuring paternity.
cocaine_face 8y ago
I feel that it was probably more of a hygiene/don't use all the water cleaning up thing.
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rp-oldgame 8y ago
They go for alphas when ovulating, not menstruating. Ovulation is approximately 9 to 14 days after the start of menstruation. After ovulation about 14 more days pass, and then menstruation begins again.
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Incidentally, if u keep track of her ovulation cycle you can make better decisions on when to go raw.
I know, safest to always wrap it, but don't lie, there's lots of dudes who raw dog it on the regular.
Sex with a woman entails risk no matter what. Risk management is key
systemshock869 8y ago
But the only time they had physical proof that they couldn't get pregnant would be an opportune time.
Hoodwink 8y ago
Oh, my mistake.
Then, perhaps, they made sure the feelings of alpha are essentially confirmed in their partner rather than feeding 'weak' beta qualities with constant comfort tests and the like.
RedSugarPill 8y ago
Yes, but if a woman is menstruating it's high time to act on sexual urges without any consequences. Not sure it fulfills the biological imperative, but it certainly provides sexual relief for both parties--so there could be a psychological imperative for having sex during menstruation.
rp-oldgame 8y ago
She's more attracted to beta / comfort behavior during non-fertile periods, sex keeps the reliable provider around to raise the alpha offspring.
Heartiste has a several articles about gaming women according to their menstrual cycle.
Here are a few of them: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/01/03/period-and-ovulation-tracker-as-seduction-tool/ https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/09/04/monthly-cycle-game-a-teaser/ https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/03/31/the-number-one-dead-giveaway-that-your-wife-is-about-to-cheat/ https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/03/06/the-menstrual-shift-to-beta-males/
bowie747 8y ago
My buddies and I have been trying astrology as ice breakers with girls. THAT SHIT GETS THEM YAPPING AND BOUNCY 100% OF THE TIME. It's actually unbelievable.
oh so you're a Leo? Yeah I'm a Taurus we have a very hot and cold interaction you know? Like very passionate and fiery, but also very dangerous..
yeah...I'm actually on the cusp. Some say that means I'm super lucky, I did actually win a small town lottery in my hometown of insert small country town before I moved to this big city
vengefully_yours 8y ago
I've been using that shit for years, something to talk to her about that will get her thinking the way I want her to think. The way I want her to think is imagining being fucked by me. Gets her going and they're all into it at least a little.
CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 8y ago
"You're such a capricorn" is an opener I have used for years. You can apply it whenever a girl does/says anything that is slightly unsual. Its a great hook. You can twist whatever they say/do into categorising them out loud. They dont like this and try to prevent you from doing it, leading to lots of teasing. Very powerful stuff. The sort of thing that could only work on a woman
nillotampoco 8y ago
I cannot imagine myself saying these sorts of things, just can't.
Seems too ridiculous, even if women do eat heaping helpings of it up.
FUBARtheinsane 8y ago
That's exactly what a capricorn would say.
CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 8y ago
Oh I say it without believing it. I dont know anything at all about horoscopes. I just bullshit, and they can usually tell that I am. Its a great way to filter out stupid women (stupid women take it literally, smart women play along and try to challenge you). You put the girl on her toes as she has to guess if you are serious or not.
Just maintain frame and keep talking as if you are serious. Do not show ANY indication that you are kidding, as that is weak. You display confidence, creativity, social savviness and build rapport with them. And its low effort - very few words needed & its easy to get her talking the majority of the time to you even when she hardly nows you. Indirectly you are testing hr rather than the other way around.
Nearly all of my one night stands come from me bullshitting continuously in this way. Building rapport while remaining mysterious gives tingles fast
nillotampoco 8y ago
True man, you justify it well as a great small talk / rapport tool.
Might just have to give it a whirl.
Scymnus 8y ago
You might want to consider a career in sales.
Captain_Unremarkable 8y ago
Are you sure women didn't invent marriage? It make more sense for them. They arguably get the better deal.
They hit menopause, and their main biological contribution to the partnership is over. Men still have to provide protection, usually for decades more thanks to modern medicine.
exit_sandman 8y ago
Monogamous marriage with the obligation (for the woman) to be a virgin before someone puts a ring on you is definitely a guy's deal.
Just because in modern times it has become an institution that's built around the priorities of women doesn't mean it has always been like that.
alexistheman 8y ago
True story: prior to the mid-20th century, weddings were far more solemn and less elaborate affairs that largely focused on the religious union of the couple. The bridezilla shit you see now would have never have flown, because the Church would never have tolerated such excess.
exit_sandman 8y ago
No, most people couldn't afford to blow a bazillion dollars on weddings, only the nobility could (and these weddings were pretty wasteful events). However, with enough families having enough "somewhat-disposable" income these days, plenty of girls feel that they're entitled to their princess-wedding.
Scott_WWS 8y ago
I disagree completely. In the West, the bride is the center of the show and makes all the rules. In the East, the priest is the center of the show and makes all the rules. The bride is just along for the ride.
PlanB_pedofile 8y ago
Daddy's spoiling their daughters....
alexistheman 8y ago
Your name and comment are frightening.
Polaris382 8y ago
That might be a bit debatable...there's a reason the MAN got the dowry from the woman's family.
exit_sandman 8y ago
The bride was given the dowry because she was added to the husband's household. It was an accessory, so she didn't have to go blank.
Philhelm 8y ago
And all of this time, I had thought it was because the father was happy to finally get rid of the bitch.
exit_sandman 8y ago
Well, he probably was happy because having a spinster nobody wanted in your home wasn't a particular source of pride in most cultures.
Questionablechoice 8y ago
Most women died before menopause in the old world. Sure there were queens and nobles which lived into their 70's but the mean age even when factoring in infant and child mortality was pretty low. Not many lived into thier late 40's. The concept of the average person living into their 50's/60's etc is relatively new in human history.
generally life was just too hard with no medicine for the ill, no food security for the majority and more exposure to harsh conditions.
Now we all live with a supermarket a few miles away we get to in a steel chariot which requires minimal effort to control and medicine which has really cured all but the worse illnesses and conditions.
Cancer is an illness of aging most of the time (exposure cancers aside). When people are dying of cancer it's generally because their genes were not meant to live that long.
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Before the agricultural revolution, humans were healthier and longer lived (once you factor out youth mortality and violence). Take the Inuit for example. Before adopting western diet, they were renown for their resilience and longevity in a crazy harsh environment.
The transition away from hunter gatherer to grain farming, and concentration into unsanitary cities resulted in elevated disease and mortality, and almost 10% reduction in height and brain size.
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chinawinsworlds 8y ago
I disagree. Many people grew old, but the gigantic number of babies dying brought the average age down.
Questionablechoice 8y ago
The mean average after removing deaths under age 12 is still between 50 - 60 until you hit the 1900's. While individuals lived past this point the commoner did not regularly.
The average during the middle ages when including children is roughly 35.
While these differences are noteworthy menopause isn't common until 51.
Generally by the time menopause settled in most common women were dead or dying shortly after. Also factors like diet may have had an effect on menopause and may delay it's onset or speed it up based on the differences however this isn't a commonly studied field in the pre modern medicine eras.
chinawinsworlds 8y ago
But that does mean a lot of women (of the ones surviving) did hit 70-90 for periods of time in history. But sure, most just died.
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ioncehadsexinapool 8y ago
I read somewhere that it's estimated that at one point humans population got down to about 2,000. That's some scary shit
Questionablechoice 8y ago
That is called the Toban event.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toba_catastrophe_theory
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[deleted] 8y ago
God I love the Bible. I really need to start reading it more.
Borsao66 8y ago
Easiest way to start is in proverbs. 31 days in a month, 31 chapters in that book. You'll start to see a LOT of TRP truths very quickly in Proverbs.
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Solomon was more like 3000 years ago. Dude had 700 wives. I'd say he knew a thing or two about women.
Squeezymypenisy 8y ago
I think many of those stories are embellished. I bet he had alot, maybe even that many, but the sumerian stories are full of shit like kings living to be 800. Unless Sumer was actually ruled by alien overlords lol.
jb_trp 8y ago
700 wives and 300 concubines. Ironically, his many wives were his undoing, because they turned his heart away from his God to the many foreign gods his wives worshiped. According to the Bible, that was his ultimate downfall.
Shit test failed.
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Assassin1476 8y ago
We've invented technology beyond our wildest imaginations. Men have flown in the sky like Icarus, sent men to other planets, discovered that we revolve around the sun and not the other way around, harnessed the power to damn near destroy all life on this plant like that of a god, turn chemicals and elements into grand things like alchemist......as far as we've come, we have digressed in learning how to maintain our relationships with women and keep these hoes in check. Something men were able to do easily 2000 years ago.
Ain't that crazy?
FinallyRed 8y ago
I think these great achievements are precisely what causes us to bury our heads about women. We believe in some notion of 'progress' of fixing all things we don't like. But you can't fix women, only make a choice as to whether you'll play their game.
[deleted] 8y ago
Hypergamy is part of mother natures plan to improve the species. The problem aint that bitches aint loyal, but that we expect them to be
Assassin1476 8y ago
I get that part. Got no problem with the true nature of women. I have a problem with the system that supports women in going out of their way to be lazy pieces of shit with a ocean full of problems and fuck ups that I got to deal with, and me having to fight against the swarms of white knights, beta bux and so called femenist who want to defend this overly inflated, entitled, shitty behavior.
FatGirlsInPartyHats 8y ago
Goddamn you nailed that perfectly.
NPK5667 8y ago
We havent sent people to other planets yet
Assassin1476 8y ago
I meant to say probes and other shit.
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RP15 8y ago
We really need to get our shit together.
ioncehadsexinapool 8y ago
A planet won't bitch about stupid shit and technology won't blame you for its mistakes
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Assassin1476 8y ago
We will. As I said before the undercurrent of resentment towards women is getting fucking real and you're really starting to see it. 2015 has been a complete shit show with all these ridiculous false rape cases, mattress hoe, university fuck ups, cat calling video's and everything else. So in 5-10 years, the backlash is going to get heavy and start quickly pulling in the red pill direction as a whole because men are being fed up. You're really starting to see it. Even a lot of women are getting fed up because bitches is just fucking it up for everyone so women who want no part in this type of nonsense are getting pulled into the shit show as well.
As the saying goes, history repeats itself. Remember the Salem Witch Trials? When bitches were crying wolf and pretending ultra hard and accusing innocent people of being witches and servants of the devil for shitz and giggles? Lot of people got fucked over and lost their lives but that shit got put to a stop with the quickness once it got truly out of hand and the important people who in no way, shape or form could have been witches were getting accused. Same thing here. This nonsense is getting completely out of control so I see what direction this is all moving.
That's why I'm not tripping at all and just sitting here eating popcorn like Michael Jackson in Thriller, smiling and laughing away because I know how this movie is going to end.
PlanB_pedofile 8y ago
It's a woman thing. Just like "hysteria" is another typical woman thing.
exit_sandman 8y ago
Totally off-topic: Personally, I have the theory that among those who fell victim to the witch hunts were some "real" witches. I.e. women who were convinced that they actually were witches.
I mean, we're living in the modern age where it's hip to not believe in sorcery and where most stuff can be explained by science and still we have some narcissistic special snowflakes who adhere to a Wiccan belief or some other neo-pagan BS and truly and sincerely believe they're witches (and they aren't even dumb as a rock, but can be quite intelligent) - how pervasive do you think were these beliefs pre-enlightenment when people still believed in the supernatural? A woman who was adhering to some residual beliefs in nature religions and truly thought she had some real mojo (and enough people eating it up)? I mean, if these weirdos exist today, who says they didn't exist in far greater numbers in the Middle Ages?
Squeezymypenisy 8y ago
Greatest political commercial of all time: "I am not a witch." It happened only a few years ago.
GlansInYourHands 8y ago
Off topic as well, but I remember reading somewhere that the grain they grew in Salem/New England was particularly susceptible to a fungus that when consumed, had hallucinogenic properties. The theory is that some of the women who had eaten the tainted wheat experienced "visions" and mistakenly thought they had become possessed and were subsequently labeled as witches.
EDIT: Found a link. Apparently it was ergot that infected the rye: http://www.neatorama.com/2012/10/15/Salem-Witch-Trials-The-Fungus-Theory/
TecoAndJix 8y ago
NPR has been doing a series on these trials all week. Check it out online, it's pretty interesting!
Captain_Unremarkable 8y ago
Every social movement is a pendulum, and that pendulum swings. With how extreme feminism has become combined with the SJW and genderqueer movements, you better believe it's starting to swing back toward the much maligned cause of straight males having rights.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
I'd like to see women running this world all by them selves. All those difficult and shitty jobs men had to do. The moment women stop giving the pussy the the moment us men go our own way. With some hoes ofcourse.
Timmytanks40 8y ago
It's not going back. I'm sorry but this trajectory is terminal. Unless you're talking about a global catastrophe literally putting us back in the the bronze age there's no reason to believe any sort of dramatic swing back to our old status quo will ever occur again.
Modern medicine will perfect beeding without male involvement within this century (conservative estimate). The need for men isn't there anymore. Honestly it's not that heartbreaking. For me personally I won't see much if any of it so I couldn't care less.
If you're reserving some hope that we'll see a back swing I have to ask what concrete evidence you see. College admissions? Social restructuring? Collective female self regulation? No no no .. were just lucky men still do the heavy lifting and math but soon the computing age will come for us and few will survive.
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As cynical as that view is, there is more evidence in favor of that view than any kind of counter movement. We don't need AI to create a self-sustaining economy. We just need to automate all the things we know and reduce humans to service economy to service the machines. I am literally an architect of this future.
The one balancing factor is foreign invaders with raw physical force, but I guess drones and/or a cleansing initiated by female leadership over disarmed constituents could take care of that.
Save us ne0.
CheesyWeiner 8y ago
Women still and always will want men
Once they piss them off enough to lose too many of them it will start to swing back
cantletthatstand 8y ago
I think this. The Fempire can screech all it wants about how it don't need no man... but iiiiit do....
reddymcwoody 8y ago
All social trends at cyclical, they may not start and end at the same point but don't doubt the cyclical nature. Case in point: Sweden has been accepting every immigrant and their Muslim mother for the past 15 years, it is now the rape capital of the world, people got fed up and now the anti-immigration party is now the largest political party in Sweden.
Timmytanks40 8y ago
That's thinking too small. Look at the larger picture. Not just social order. Look at life, economy, as well as social organization.
The labor requirement filled by men isn't there anymore. We don't need heavy lifters and if we do women will strap on an exosuit and a machine will help her. We don't need to swing a sword. Wars don't happen and of they do it's the pull of a trigger. We don't need a men to drive 18wheelers. We don't need anyone to run a tractor. Combines are a day away from complete automony. I'm sure you could run one from your IPad.
The modern male is being downsized. It's to everyone's benefit so far but eventually both men and women won't be very necessary. Luckily for the ladies(top tier) an artificial womb is much fit her off in the horizon.
Social changes may be cyclical but this is a COMPLETE PARADIGM SHIFT. We are at the cusp an industrial revolution level event. Elbow grease isn't that valuable anymore
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reddymcwoody 8y ago
So what are you saying? The the imbalance of power will continue to exponentially grow until the best 100 men are factory farmed for their sperm in some basement while women finger and scissor each other in their virtual reality headsets?
Nah, inequality can only go so far. Feminism isn't going to be able to achieve the aforementioned scenario.
Timmytanks40 8y ago
Well it won't be that drastic and humanity as a whole will be downsized. This initial downsizing will be along both genders at a certain point. But for our perspective you can an guarantee the social order will continue on the trend it's heading in for the next hundred years. There's no reason it would given the power structure behind it is already in place. You can't fight half the population especially when you're all trying to fuck each other.
Treq-S 8y ago
so you're saying muslims are in general rapists..? cool.. i didnt know i was a rapist... you really opened my eyes man.. thanks
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Treq-S 8y ago
there are uneducated people everywhere who view women as less than dirt.. and trust me when i say this, just for the record, we muslims do not view women like that.. its the middle east culture that led to this horrendous stereotype and it pisses us off (the rest of the muslim world)..
im sorry for any misunderstanding
getRedPill 8y ago
Theological question: When she wipes her mouth it is food she've been eating or it is another dirty stuff there? # theologicalQuestion.
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There are plenty of colorful euphemisms hidden throughout, many of them are not so obvious in English because the translations tend to deliberately obscure the true meaning because christians tend to have tight buttholes about that sort of thing.
Scott_WWS 8y ago
Just spent the last few hours reading most of these comments and I really do believe that the prevalence of women going out on their husbands and boyfriends in such a nonchalant manner comes from the value system that they have inherited from our broken society.
Some guys have posted some serious wisdom about how, in the days of old, women were controlled through religion and societal pressure. But what do we have today? No religion and societal pressure that says, "If you haven't had at least 100 dicks in your life, you're missing out."
While there is - and always will be - infidelity, what we have in America is so off the charts compared to Eastern Europe, Central Asia and Eastern Asia.
You have to realize that the "game" (women call it romance) is always on and will be until death if you want a LTR. You can't EVER treat your LTR like you would treat your best friend. You need to insert drama, hot & cold, on & off, excessive attention followed by no attention, be at home one day, go away for the next. Women thrive on that shit and as soon as you get comfortable and stop, she's looking to satisfy her drama streak - ever wonder why day time soap operas are so popular with women?
Barry: Linda, I love you.
Linda: I love you too. Can we finally be together now that your wife has died?
Barry: No, while I love you, I must go with Kathy.
Linda: Why, you don't love Kathy.
Barry: No, I love you, but it is how it must be.
There is no logic to it, but it creates drama - women thrive on that. Most dudes don't get that - the sooner you do, the better you'll be landing women and keeping them (if that's what you want).
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Excellent analysis, yes, women love and need drama.
The plate who inspired this post started our fling by telling me she "didnt want any drama in her life"
Yea ok, thats why your fucking your kids coach
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
Fucking hilarious if you think about it. Men want the full on sex life way more than a women does, it's in our nature. Yet due to this fucked up society women get to play out that fantasy.
Women are loose cannons nowadays and men lost all control. Don't give them your respect because they deserve none of it.
LetsGoAllTheWhey 8y ago
Awhile back I wrote about a story I read in which the wife cheated on her husband, but because she had already "checked out of the marriage" she didn't consider it cheating and saw nothing wrong with what she did. Nevermind the fact that they still lived together as husband and wife, and he thought everything in the marriage was fine.
RpReborn 8y ago
I picture the author as Buddha sitting on a mountain peak seeing all with calm and perfect clarity. This post is short and sweet with zero misconceptions on the nature of women. Don't fight the truth. Embrace it and let them fit your life, not theirs.
Can't expect fidelity, it's just your turn, act accordingly. If this isn't a commandment, it should be.
Outstanding
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The-Ban-Hammer 8y ago
This is true. You won't know at all. You won't sense it. And even if you demand to know the whole truth, she'll give you her version of the whole "truth." It won't even be trickle truth. It will just be the edited truth, unless you can find it somewhere while she's not looking.
Then she'll wonder why you're making a big deal over something you discussed years ago, not acknowledging that you're learning new, more vital information. The hamster will literally go into overdrive to make you the bad guy for re-opening something that was long ago discussed. Oh, so she didn't tell you she sucked a dick. So what? lol
Even the "nicest" woman will pull this shit.
stonepimpletilists 8y ago
Thats because it's weak beta behaviour. You get one kick at the can... one. And if you decided to let it go, fucking own it and move on.
MattyAnon Admin 8y ago
Agree with this in most cases, for most women. And if you've got one who doesn't feel inclined to cheat, she'll behave the same as one who has. So you won't know.
It's more likely to happen in this day and age than in times gone past, because cheating is now socially acceptable (girl power!), easy (Tinder), and girls have access to all of facebook and subreddit-hamsters telling them it's totally fine because made up arbitrary reason including perfect vagina and evil penis.
With the man now taking all the consequences of a relationship not working out (including her cheating or changing her mind on a whim), and the woman having all the benefits of the relationship whether it works or not, the only options for the modern day man are to hedge your bets (multiple women), never invest more than you're prepared to walk away from (here's your skittles ladies, don't fight over red ones), and/or MGTOW. And for the love of god, do not marry.
The marriage deal has gotten worse every decade for men for the last 40 years. You want to see how bad it is in 20 years time when you get your papers? I certainly don't, thankyouverymuch.
OmLaLa 8y ago
If I can have sex with a woman for months in her house without realizing she was married and her husband still doesn't realize I (and others, from what I've heard) have been there, this truth doesn't bode well for the marriage of the every man.
Remember, just because she sees an Alpha in you now doesn't mean she will 3 years from now.
Time defeats novelty, no novelty means no intrigue, no intrigue no attraction, no attraction no feel-good stimuli source, no source hypergamy kicks into overdrive.
You can't win against those odds.
drewdontcare 8y ago
Time defeats novelty, no novelty means no intrigue, no intrigue no attraction, no attraction no feel-good stimuli source, no source hypergamy kicks into overdrive.
It is as simple as this.Bravo
myschadenfreude 8y ago
Hell I didn't know until 6 months after my ex was having her husband watch her dogs while she came over to bang. He could since. he still lived there!
TheMGhandi 8y ago
Scenario: You're at a sluts house and slowly, all the clothes are coming off with no LMR. Nobody knows you're there except for Uber. What do you do?
If a beta male is in this situation (the woman has her agenda), 10 times out of 10 he's getting laid. This is why women are never loyal to beta males because they know deep down that he's not.
If an alpha male is in this situation (the man has his agenda), 10 times out of 10 he's getting laid. This is why women aren't loyal to alpha males either.
Unless you're that rarity of a man who would not succumb to his desires (women can tell if you are), she's going to end up cheating all right. That scenario is the everyday life of an attractive woman and she won't give what she won't get.
IGoYouStayTwoAutumns 8y ago
This is something that really needs to be emphasized far more on this sub (like, SIDEBAR-emphasized): the fact that, no matter how high your SMV, you can never compete with the unknown quantity.
You might be a solid 9, and the random guy hitting her up on social media is maybe an 8 (or at least "appears" to be an 8), but he gets a temporary +2 (or more) bonus for being new and unknown. Now's he's a 10, and you're a 9--he wins, you lose, she's having sex with him, that's it. It's a simple math problem that can never be beaten.
htbf 8y ago
You ban the usage of social media in your household (for you and her and the children).
And she's not allowed to go out without you.
Someone out there can't believe he's reading this but if it's the only way to save the marriage, I don't give a fuck.
imjusttryingtodome 8y ago
Nah. That will just make her resent you even faster for being so insecure.
There was nothing to save from the very beginning. Saving a relationship is like trying to capture a beautiful moment. The harder you grip, the faster you lose it.
OmLaLa 8y ago
Even this wouldn't prevent hypergamous behaviors. Suppose she goes grocery shopping one day and stumbles across someone of higher SMV.
htbf 8y ago
It would just limit it not prevent it.
Also, even if someone hits on her while grocery shopping, it'd make it somewhat harder to meet with him if she's not allowed to go out without you. Again, it won't prevent it, but it helps.
Philhelm 8y ago
It's like Risk, except the attacker wins ties.
MoneyStatusLooks 8y ago
I'm not disagreeing, but don't you think this is a bit overly defeatist?
If you have your shit together, i'm pretty sure you can create tingles/dread/hamster indefinitely. You just need to have your shit together and know the risks you are taking if you decide to LTR/marriage.
BaconEggsAndSleaze 8y ago
I think he's referring to the average man.
People here, hopefully, are on an upward trajectory.
At least I am, anyways.
eaton80 8y ago
But the risks keep growing as feminists keep changing the family laws.
veggie_girl 8y ago
Sounds like a lot of work and the only reward is getting to bang the same aging woman indefinitely. Better off not getting married.
bigcitytruth 8y ago
Just cheat. I'm not even kidding. Men can covertly cheat without it wrecking his home life. Women can't do that.
Cheat smart of course, don't get caught, use burner phones, hotels, another city, erase ALL texts, use a fake name, rent a totally different car, etc. Basically leave no trace. Cheating subconsciously wipes away all neediness; it will change your walk and how you carry yourself, and your woman will sniff that you are of high value - and one step out the door. She will cling to you for dear life.
One of you is going to cheat. Better it to be you. A lot of old-world cultures pretty much celebrated the concept of "a woman on the side."
yumyumgivemesome 8y ago
Not only is it a lot of work, but doing a great job at it one week does not even save him from the consequences of a bad week. The woman's tingle-memories are so short that the man has to be on his game practically constantly.
Gadnuk_ 8y ago
This is a point that needs to be mentioned more. Going from hero to zero can be instant.
If you lose frame, she will lose tingles. Period. You can right your wrongs in time but the climb takes more time and effort than the fall.
OmLaLa 8y ago
It's not a matter of getting your shit together. Novelty on all things wears off eventually. Remember how hyped ever one was for the first iPhone? Now they're just another thing. People generally grow accustomed to things very quickly, no matter what that thing may be and especially in today's age of dopamine addiction.
What's worse, marriage is for life.
Women are constantly reassessing their judgement of you and comparing you to the man that enter their perception. No man is the perfect alpha.
Eventually, you're bound to drop frame or do something beta within the years you're married, especially since you live together.
And she will ALWAYS remember that, as women base their perception off of good and bad traits they've witnessed.
What's more, the new men entering their lives have a clean slate, so if they come forth with nothing but positive Alpha traits she’s begin branch swinging to him.
Even if you start out with a high SMV, as soon as you commit, no matter what, your SMV begins to deteriorate. Like a car once it's been driven off the lot.
james-watson 8y ago
I want to slightly alter this statement. If you read my post below analyzing Christiano Ronaldo's relationship with the weather forecaster girl, my conclusion is that no matter how alpha you are, the novelty will wear off.
It has nothing to do with you acting beta, but of course that'll speed things up. As men, we're always on the lookout for causality, to see if something we did changed the outcome. In truth, when a woman first gets to know you and fucks you like a pornstar those first 6 months, she's clearly already assigned you the label of alpha.
The problem is, she becomes desensitized to your particular stimuli, just like people become desensitized to drugs. In this case, she has to switch to a different drug to experience the same high, because no dosage of that initial drug will do the trick.
I don't know if this is captured in sidebar material, but it is rooted in evolutionary biology. Females have a desire to diversify their genetic portfolio just like we do, but they focus on quality and we focus on quantity. They still want to fuck all of the apex alphas in the world, but its not like men who want to fuck literally every girl above a 6, which is in the billions.
All relationships end, it is a fact of biology. Thats why you hear all this nonsense about how "relationships take work" and you "true love is when lust is gone". No, that's when you're fighting biology trying to get the same high you got 5 yrs ago. It's not gonna happen, but the denial is real.
OmLaLa 8y ago
Very well said. You should rephrase this comment into a post.
JustHere4SomeKisses 8y ago
What are your thoughts on delaying marriage for a good long while (to the point where she wants it really bad but is talking about giving up due to waiting so long) in order to hopefully avoid the defeat of novelty?
vengefully_yours 8y ago
Do not get married. It's that simple.
I vetted my 2nd ex wife for 8 years. In those 8 years she rarely turned down sex, she wanted me to fuck her as often as I wanted it. We never argued, never fought, she was not frivolously spending my money, she is educated and has degrees with honors level GPA. She never cheated in those 8 years, and believe me, I am one of the few who can tell when they do. Married her so she could get health care. 16 months later we were divorced. She was the last female that will ever have heard me say "I love you" and the last one I will ever have cared about. They can all die in fires, I'll just go get another one because bitches are easy and cheap to get, expensive to keep around.
In this age, it's far better to never marry. Live with the bitch if you want, but divorce will destroy everything you build, give it all to her, lawyers, and the state. It's nothing more than legal extortion and you pay everything.
[deleted] 8y ago
How old are you?
I ask because I really enjoy your writing and I'm starting to see a pattern of higher quality from older ECs.
Kingoffistycuffs 8y ago
If I could hazard a guess I'd put vengeful at 45-47. First manage would have been late 20s 2nd late 30s then a few years for shit to heal. Now we have currant vengeful whom helps young bucks with key life tips like"never get married".
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JihadDerp 8y ago
I'd be careful with cohabitation. On a long enough time-line, some states will view that as common-law marriage. Then you're fucked.
vengefully_yours 8y ago
Not in the state I live in. That's advice for other men, as for myself I'll never let a bitch live with me again. She can stay the night, spend the weekend, but after that is "get up slut, you gotta go home"
TRPKing 8y ago
I also believe that there must be warning signs if a woman is cheating, just that most men are willfully blind to them. Aside from hard evidence (such as text messages or whatnot) what signs in a woman's behavior do you think indicate that she might be cheating?
vengefully_yours 8y ago
The subtle changes in her demeanor, being secretive when she wasn't before, not wanting you around and getting defensive about it. One you've seen it a couple times, and you realize they all do the same shit it becomes easy to spot. Most men are blindsided by her cheating, I always saw it change in her before she ever sucked his cock.
The first girl I fucked showed me what they do when they're into a man (she fucked a good friend of mine while we were supposed to be going out, actually on a date. I was fascinated by it, and watched her intently. Didn't get mad because I never cared about her at all) then later she was fucking a different friend and cheating with me, and I watched how she interacted with both of us. I plated her ass and fucked her for a while, crashed at her place often so I didn't have to pay rent, and watched her when she thought I didn't know she was fucking other friends of mine. Small town of 6500 people meant I knew everyone.
When I saw subsequent girlfriends doing the same things, I knew what was up. Every time I saw those signs over the next 60 or so girls, they were always cheating. That was my cue to ghost them or pick up replacement plates.
Of course, I expect them to cheat, and the dread often extends things, but in the end every girl I've dated has cheated and none have gotten away with it. I always know, and most times didn't care because she is really replaced. I'd heard next if the due was some kind of skanky loser or drug addict, if it was a friend I'd just use her until I replaced her.
KyfhoMyoba 8y ago
Search YouTube for '100 signs of a cheating spouse'. Got some real good ones there.
FatGirlsInPartyHats 8y ago
The signs are the opposite of what most men believe they would be. These are typically increased sex drive, increased happiness in a relationship, etc. I don't think they are trying to make up for their immoral behavior but rather I think they're just happy riding as many dicks as possible so they overlook the unhappiness of your relationship purely because it isn't their primary focus any longer. Be VERY skeptical of a happy woman.
FrameWalker 8y ago
There's nothing as surprising as a he maniacal smile a woman gives after getting her alpha fucks. Every time I've done my best to degrade, defile and permanently damage a woman they get this huge goofy grin. Pure joy. Pure joy. Well except for anal for the uninitiated.
myschadenfreude 8y ago
Mood changes, suddenly happy for "no reason". Later work shifts. Becoming very private about social media and cell. Not wanting to introduce you to work friends. Biggest red flag, new male friend she talks about.
If you see two of these, or the new male friend, get very suspicious. Do not confront directly, unless you have hard evidence and are dumping. No need to let her know you are on to her.
If you see more than two of those signs, or the new rando guy and another flag she's cheating or working fast to get there.
I learned that through experience.
darren559 8y ago
True, true, and true. Also, don't forget to listen to your gut. Before I was aware of the red flags of cheating, I just remember feeling in my gut that something was very wrong, even though she was acting very right. Well, my gut was right.
Magnum256 8y ago
Are there any sources of TRP men in later life (50+ years old) who can speak about unmarried life?
I'm in my 30s, never married, no desire to, but part of me always thinks "how will this be when I'm 55+ and have never been married, likely with no children, and I'm not as full of life or adventurous as I was when I was in my 20s or 30s"
I mean it's one thing to be busy living your life, always something to do, or somewhere to go, hobbies, work, and friends to spend time with but I imagine as we all get older our lives will change, we might not need to spend so much time working, nor find as much pleasure in partying or actively socializing every weekend.
Maybe it's just an old fashioned upbringing but I always saw marriage/children as sort of a milestone in a mans life, like that's where you're supposed to be eventually, and then you'll get old and live happily with your wife and see your children grow and start families of their own and eventually you'll be this 75 year old man surrounded by several generations of family and feel truly "fulfilled" and now it's as if my reality is shattered by the fact that marriage is such a rigged game with a very low chance of long-term success and left me with nothing other than the thought of, "what the hell am I supposed to do when I'm an old man?"
boomerbux 8y ago
I'm mid 50's, never been married, never been happier. I realized at a very young age that marriage was a bad deal, so I fought hard to stay single. Once in a blue moon I wonder if I should have had kids. But I absolutely NEVER think I wish I had been married. I have travelled the world, but a business in a foreign country, and love my freedom. I sometimes take for granted that I have never, ever had to do anything I didn't want to do. I was able to easily walk away from a high paying, high stress job, since my needs are simple. I 'retired' at 45 and started living a year or two at a time in all the cities I always wanted to, Prague, Paris, Rio, Buenos Aires, Bogota, Tokyo etc. All my friends and colleagues look at me and say' I wish I had your life'. I wonder why they didn't choose it? It goes against everything your family and culture tells you to do I guess, but I have always been a non conformist. Right now I live in Central America and spend my days fixing up my house, which I love to do. At night I have my pick of 20 and 30 something hot women to date. I learned a second language and soon I'll move to Italy or Portugal and learn a third. I have no idea what people here are talking about when they say you need to go to great lengths to keep your LTR going. Why? I would never put that kind of effort into it. Fuck that, I have better things to do with my time. My biggest problem these days, in all seriousness? I find it difficult to keep up sexually with much younger women. I'm fine for 1 or maybe 2 times in an evening, but after that I need to sleep. I might have to try V or C soon...life is fucking great, DON'T GET MARRIED
jm51 8y ago
I'm mid 60s, divorced, 3 kids and 3 grandchildren. I'm really liking my life. Am retired, socialising with family is great.
All the talk of outcome independence but no way must the mother of your children get a dollar.
Make twice as much money and give her half when the divorce comes. It's not like she'll be doing better than you 5 years after.
Or spend heavily on skills that can earn coin. It's not like the judge is going to give her half of your pilots license.
If you really want kids, my advice would be to find a potentially good mother. That rules out crazies and special snowflakes. For all your lifting, she will judge you on how cute you would look pushing a swing.
We were born to breed.
Polaris382 8y ago
Curious about this too actually. Im 31, and there is part of me that wants to settle down with a GOOD (I do believe some exist) but...Im really bad at relationships (showing emotion/affection/etc), Im pretty selfish, and I value my freedom, not very enthusiastic about the idea of having children...as well as really love simplicity and just being a minimalist in general.
These things dont really bode well for LTRs, and I just lost a really high quality woman because of it. Even with a really good one, I dont know if Im cut out for that life, but you cant help but wonder if you choose lifelong bachelorhood if at some point in old age that some sort of regret is going to hit you hard. A lot better than the regret of being a single old man that has been "divorce raped" once or multiple times though.
stonepimpletilists 8y ago
35 here. settled down common law with one.
Don't think of it like the hunt for a unicorn. think of it like an investment. you play the odds, mitigate the risk, and if you have to check out if it becomes a dud or lemon.
been close, but it always comes back around. I blame my complacency on it. But after this one, no more.
If you don't want regret? make more friends
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bigeyedbunny 8y ago
"Faithfulness" of women is just another illusion of the bluepill betas.
I never met, in real life, a girl who was always faithful only to her boyfriend or husband.
Hoodwink 8y ago
I wasn't surprised when 1 or 2 girls cheated. It only intellectually surprises me it's almost near universal behavior for women.
I think most men can't cheat unless they really go out of their way in terms of prostitution.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised by the universality of it.
doveenigma13 8y ago
I met one once. At least she said she was faithful between mouthfuls of cock.
Dylan_Tnga 8y ago
"We were already broken up when I fucked him so it wasn't cheating" is a pretty common rationalization they use. My ex wife used that one on me lol. We were still living together with the kids but in her mind we were broken up probably because of some arbitrary argument.
Point is, females can justify ANY behavior they want, there's no point in trying to understand the logic, it's just about "feeling good"
Since I've been divorced I've had a couple plates with husbands / boyfriends / fiancess whatever, they cheat and they're perfectly fine with it. Some are even happy to degrade their man during the process to "He doesn't fuck me like you do"
Advice #1 is the best. Take it from an ex-married dude... don't tie the knot. Fuck that shit.
sterlinghtsmi 8y ago
This is very true. I'm pounding a country club brat who simply doesn't respect her husband and it appears he has lost interest in her. Yes, she is a pain in the ass but not my pain in the ass...I simply put her in her place, gave her the pounding of her life and now she is a mewling kitten at my door twice a month. Nothing is off limits, she is a slut through and through, like most women are. I was even the first in her ass...and yes...she is now an anal queen. AWALT
moose_war 8y ago
The difference between men and women cheating is that women are not only better at it, but women are better at convincing themselves and their friends that actually, they didn't really cheat because XYZ.
jb_trp 8y ago
The power of the female hamster is incredible (solipsism). I've had breakups with women and then months later reconnected with them, and their understanding of the events were opposite of what really happened.
And (surprise) they always end up the victim in their minds.
Vasallo7G 8y ago
exactly, women don't lie, they just believe their own bullshit first, then whatever comes out of their mouths no matter how ridiculous its the truth
just like Chris Rocks points out: "Men have a disadvantage when arguing with Women: They have to make sense"
TheReformist94 8y ago
so what is the point in not cheating on women? if its just my turn, from a financial/investment point of view, knowing what women are like and having their true nature exposed, only a fool would remain faithful to a women in this day and age and not take a mistress
BannedBandit 8y ago
And it's available to them all the time... Allowing it to "just happen".
If a man wants to cheat, it likely has to be more deliberate and premeditated.
Women always have guys pounding on the door to their pussy.
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babydocnorman 8y ago
Yep. After a drink or two, it "just happens" a lot.
jackedbodrailbroads 8y ago
Exactly, "it just happened"
vengefully_yours 8y ago
Doesn't matter how ugly, fat, or bitchy she is either, someone out there is desperate enough to want to fuck her and will do whatever it takes to shag that nasty odiferous mooseknuckle.
Your "oh fuck no, not even with my worst enemy's dick" is some other guys "holy shit that's hot"
yumyumgivemesome 8y ago
I always thought "mooseknuckle" was the male analog to the woman's camel toe. Could be wrong.
Jack_Sophmore 8y ago
Yeah for sure in America where the dating market has quality educated well paid fit guys accepting uneducated, fat, slobs of a woman.
vengefully_yours 8y ago
Tons of desperate omegas doing anything to get a sniff exacerbates the phenomenon.
YuriJackoffski 8y ago
more like "meh, I'm drunk and hornier than thou."
vengefully_yours 8y ago
That too, beer goggles get fat and ugly girls fucked.
idontwanttostart 8y ago
"Odiferous" ...that shit is my worst nightmare
evileddy 8y ago
Do you do the finger test?
You finger the gal and bring your fingers to HER mouth.. if she doesn't suck them.. leave.
Tom_The_Human 8y ago
Is this a thing?
I've done it to my woman plenty of times, but didn't know of it being a "test".
evileddy 8y ago
Way it works is if she won't even lick your fingers.. that means she thinks her vagina is gross... and you don't want your face in something she thinks is gross.
idontwanttostart 8y ago
Goddamn. That's some medieval shit right there...Imma try it.
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Absolutely hit it on the nail mate
HockeyBeast44 8y ago
My neighbor came over the other day, shitfaced, stoned what have you. I talked to him bc his daughter is getting married soon and she is 4 years younger than me. For reference Im closer to 30 than 25, she is closer to 25 but not quite. I asked him about cheating bc I knew he's gone out on his wife before, I just figured it was something he did a while ago while he was younger, maybe settled down now. Well hes 44-45 you wouldnt believe it, hes pretty gruff. This is a guy from the sticks, always talks about how he WAS built "like a brick shit house" (whatever that means). Well the truth serum got the best of him and he told me about this woman that he still fucks from time to time. He thought I was absolutely nuts for thinking that someone could be married and have sex with the same partner for the rest of their life. So RP, I guess if you get married, dont get caught, and you will have a great relationship if you so choose to go the married route. I leave my post with a quote from a song, I think it was from the rapper MA$E "all women flirt, all women cheat." Maybe (most) men cheat too (Ashley Madison?) but we just dont hear about it, bro code style.
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[deleted] 8y ago
It is possible to tell sometimes. For one, trust your gut. Is there something telling you to suspect her actions? And two, when they start the accusations of you doing the thing they did, it's usually a sign.
motivatedcat 8y ago
When a woman is going to cheat or cheated; the signs will be there. It's impossible to act as if nothing as happened. Mannerisms will change, interactions will be slightly different, etc.
The problem is people ignoring the signs that are right in front of them. Knowing when to drop a LTR is important whether you have proof or not.
The main point of this post stands.
ioncehadsexinapool 8y ago
I would like to know these signs
motivatedcat 8y ago
When you start off a relationship; usually (hopefully) it's because a woman worships the ground you walk on, she will literally do anything for you.
You will start getting resistance in things that were a no brainer earlier in the relationship. She starts going out by herself more frequently then she did before. She is hitting the gym, dressing better and taking care of herself more when she is doing other things but keeping it casual in front of you.
To keep it basic; remember when a girl is completely infatuated by you, if she isn't conforming to those patterns then the propensity of her cheating goes up drastically. Standard deviations should be taken to account, but there will be a general trend that will remain consistent in functioning LTR. Things don't change because of "No reason" or whatever bullshit her hamster will try to feed you to justify those actions.
KyfhoMyoba 8y ago
This may be true in most cases. But it certainly isn't true in all cases.
Plus, you have to remember that the vast majority of men are predisposed to believe in her fidelity, and hence, confirmation bias will train him to ignore those signs that she does manifest.
motivatedcat 8y ago
Your mileage will vary. Even a completely a high level psychopath women will have some sort of tell sign. It's just nature. Her schedule will change, she is having mood changes( whether positive or negative, she will act "differently".You will know all the variables in her life if she's a LTR. When something isn't accounted for and outcomes cannot be predicted easily because data is missing, you have to assume she is keeping something from you and 99.9% of the times is that she is giving cheating some serious thought or already did it. You bring that piece of information to your attention and everything will start making sense again. Women are predictable and when men are "blindsided"; they were refusing to see the signs that were in front of them. That won't stop her from cheating, but will make it easy for you to call it quits.
I tend to screen my LTR throughly and any deviation is extremely noticeable because I basically own them until otherwise. I would imagine if you LTR a slut, it's harder to compare it to something. In any case, there are always tell signs, whether you see them or not is another story.
Hoodwink 8y ago
No. This is not 100% true. There are women who honestly don't give a fuck.
And, some of the older sluts, are even more likely to not show any change in emotion or any mannerisms.
The change you're talking about really only happens in the until around 25, after that, most sluts are REALLY casual about cheating. It's no big deal to them.
Njncguy 8y ago
Sometimes you really just can NOT tell your wife is cheating.
A true story: My "wonderful & charming" wife fucked a "jogging buddy" friend of ours in our beach locker. After the sex, she came down to the beach area to be with me and our two small children. We built sand castles. Jumped the waves with the kids. By all outward appearances (and to me) we were having fun. Somehow I'm stuck with image of my loving wife with her beaming smile directed towards me while some other guy's spunk is literally dripping out of her pussy.
I only learned about the above a few years later when the "jogging buddy" family friend called me and spilled his guts. Turns he was also being "cheated" on by my wife. ... (Crudeness left in on purpose to make my comment hit you in the gut as the cheating did to me at the time.)
yumyumgivemesome 8y ago
The little mannerisms are most noticeable when the guy tries to be intimate with the woman -- even just playful flirting, kissing, etc. She will be different, less comfortable in that situation, and probably a tad standoffish as her initial reactions to his advances betray her.
Hoodwink 8y ago
Eh. No. I don't think so at all. What you're describing is just a woman who doesn't want to have sex or isn't sexually attracted to you at the moment.
Some girls are masters at acting and are cool as a cucumber about this shit.
vengefully_yours 8y ago
They still have tells. They're not very smart, they don't think you'll notice obvious shit. My first ex was fucking her best friends husband, they lived across the street. She came home just after 0600, he was 2 minutes behind her. She had left me with the kids so I couldn't go out and check on her. I had a friend watch my kids and I went out looking for them. Saw his truck at a bar, so I went in the back door. There she was, between his legs while he was sitting on a bar stool. She didn't see me, but he did and he had that "Oh fuck, I'm about to die!" look. There were two fat cunts I didn't know sitting across from them, so I walked up behind her, put my hand over her eyes and pulled her head back. Then I gropped her tits with my other hand. The looks on the fat chicks faces was epic. (I'm laughing just remembering this shit) Then I removed my hand from her eyes and she turned around, she tried to play it off, deny deny deny. Then a fat cut asks "who is that?" I replied, "Her husband" and she said "That guy is her husband" and I said "Nah, that's her best friends husband, at least for now. " And smiled a big shit eating grin.
I was stuck with her because I want keen on divorce rape, so I didn't care and speed fucking her. Then I shut off her access to my money. She ended up getting 71% of my gross when she finally left for good two years later. Just got her all paid off this year, and it feels great.
I have a few hundred stories like that one. I expect them to cheat, and they've never failed me yet. Why do I expect it? Because it's inevitable and they'll cheat with me when they're with some other guy.
Scurvemuch 8y ago
how does someone get 71% of your gross? I am not trolling I just honestly dont understand how that number is arrived at?
vengefully_yours 8y ago
They take your pay sub, plug in the before tax number, divide by the % they want and that's what you're left to pay taxes and live on.
Simple math is how.
The why is much more involved, and it includes that the federal government matches the amount enforced against fathers and pays the state. That incentive prompts the states to take as much as possible.
Girls in that state are held to less than 20%of net income to be paid in support, but men get hit with 68%. I got fucked because they assumed I would be getting deployment pay every month, as in hostile fire/combat pay, family separation pay, etc. Those are non taxable because they vary and are intended to help overcome hardships induced by combat deployments. They added everything they could that I might possibly recieve during my enlistment and used that number. Yes it's against state and federal law to do that, but they did it.
Scurvemuch 8y ago
reading your first few posts...shiiiitteee
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motivatedcat 8y ago
The 100000th remainder not to get married haha
You probably should have turned a blind eye. Started "investing" in family businesses a decent time before the divorce. By the time the divorce comes up; you are technically broke.
I have seen it done before by an older friend who was a relatively wealthy. He began shielding his wealth many years before the divorce and was able to keep a good chunk of it. Totally illegal, but not immoral in my opinion.
In your defense, that must have been satisfying.
vengefully_yours 8y ago
I really started to enjoy fucking with her while she was cheating with different guys. As soon as she left for good, I had an Asian girl that night, and five plates within two weeks.
I getting the itch for a skinny bitch or three again. Been building my life in hardcore monk for two years, have only fucked 20 or so girls in that time. Not girls who are a challenge, just willing to fuck and do things. I'll never trust a girl again, they can never earn it from me, no matter what they do. Doesn't mean I won't like and appreciate them, I just won't trust them. I take it as granted they are fucking other guys.
Emporian 8y ago
Hello anger phase... Again
vengefully_yours 8y ago
Eh, I have better shit to be angry about. Girls don't rate much anger.
Philhelm 8y ago
Anger always manages to throw a Hail Mary when there's only ten seconds left on the clock.
And this time he's brought a friend - Rage.
james-watson 8y ago
Jesus christ almighty. This is after 8 years of vetting?
Lord have mercy on the poor souls who get married after reading this. I don't know of a single man who vetted his GF for 8 years.
Scratch that, I know one, but his marriage lasted all of 1 year. It was a sexless, decade long relationship. Don't ask.
vengefully_yours 8y ago
At least I was fucking the hell out of her. She was a 21 year old virgin I popped, so the pussy was all mine for 8 years. I'm 13 years older than she is, and now I'm fucking girls 10 years younger than her. I get what I want, then release them to the wild cc.
I was at this point before I met her, spinning plates before it was called that, using them for sex, picking up and dropping off all the time. I met her and decided to give girls just one more chance. When she did exactly the same shit all the others had done, that was it. Girls are a warm moist place to jack off, self lubricating fleshlights. Nothing more. I have some as friends, and I like a few of them, but none will ever be loved by me again.
Hoodwink 8y ago
LOL. It sounds like you paid off an expensive car..
yumyumgivemesome 8y ago
Reminds me of the video of this jolly fat fuck dancing at the bank because he is sending out his very last alimony payment after 10 years.
vengefully_yours 8y ago
I could've bought a fucking F40 for what the bitch got out of me. The hilarious part is she drives a clapped out minivan because she can't handle money.
JumpXVI 8y ago
You've probably answered this before, but how did she net 71% gross when you had evidence she was cheating?
KyfhoMyoba 8y ago
The courts generally don't care at all about infidelity. Plus, he was in the military, so, reasons.
elduckbell 8y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-fault_divorce
vengefully_yours 8y ago
Because most states, particularly those with no fault divorce (read his fault) don't give a fuck if she cheated, was abusive, or did anything wrong at all, she gets rewarded for being a useless cunt and the man gets punished regardless of how good a father and husband he was. Michigan and Nebraska both fuck the man and reward the cunt with anything she wants of his.
james-watson 8y ago
And this right here, is why I recently got angry at GLO for ridiculing that old fool Elam without providing an alternative solution to men's legal situation. When shit like this happens daily, how can we click our heels and yodel the RP mantra of "Lift, eat meat. All will be well!"?
All sure as fucking hell won't be well until we reverse this fucking feminist legal matrix of madness. TRP is the best men's community on the internet, we need to translate this to fighting the fucking scourge that is the feminst-legal-divorce-rape industrial complex.
vengefully_yours 8y ago
I got fucked by it for 15 years. I tried fighting it, all it did was waste money and give me very high blood pressure. Fight it if you want, I do my part by telling younger men just how fucked up this are. Caveat emptor. Don't marry ever.
The freaky fucked up part? State law dictated they could only take 68%, but since I was military, they took 71% leaving me between 100 and 300 a month. Those harpys in support enforcement decided to punish me since they assumed I could live on base and eat for free. I couldn't at my rank and having kids. That meant I was homeless, living in my car, and eating once a day until I went to Korea, where I could eat for free but only had 100 a month.
Fight it all you want. I have other shit to do, and that shit doesn't include girls except for something to fuck. If I could get a sexbot, I would.
james-watson 8y ago
Jesus, motherfucking, christ. You are hitting me with some serious life experiences right now.
I have always been an eternal optimist, but maybe I did not fully grasp the depths of the depravity we find ourselves in. I salute you for maintaining your self control, as I sincerely doubt I would have been able to do the same in your situation.
Maybe I'm tilting at windmills after all, and GLO has it figured out.
Again, thanks for your sharing your experience, and once again, holy fucking christ.
vengefully_yours 8y ago
You have me laughing right now, because of your reaction to just one part of my life. Not even the most life altering, fucked up, unfair, or suicidal thought inducing. Other than getting royally fucked financially, I've been through worse. Far worse.
War, deaths, loss, incarcerated for something I didn't do, severe abuse, neglect, ptsd, chronic pain...the list goes on and on.
Feel free to peruse my history on here, back over two years, look for the longer posts two years ago. Get an idea of what my life had been like, and give me your reaction. I change small stuff to maintain anonymity, but everything actually happened. I do not embellish nor fabricate, there's no reason to do so.
My life has created something of a monster in me. I'm a cynical pessimistic optimist. To wit. Life sucks right now, it has sucked far worse in the past, but through sheer will, determination, and mind boggling amounts of effort, I will make it better. I could give in and hate life, but that is a waste of my time here.
DexiAntoniu 8y ago
If you can't tell your woman is cheating on you, you're an idiot.
doveenigma13 8y ago
You can't really until she's making plans on moving out or something. That's when they don't cover their tracks as mischievously. At that point they are begging to be caught so they can move on without any remorse because you're "crazy, controlling, and paranoid."
DexiAntoniu 8y ago
Wrong. I can smell a cheating woman from a mile. I lost good favor of guys telling them she's is our gonna do it soon, only to be proven right.
doveenigma13 8y ago
That's kinda like saying "that bear over there will shit in the woods" in the majority of women.
DexiAntoniu 8y ago
Not necessarily where I'm from...
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M1s4n7hr0p3 8y ago
To be fair, if you're doing what you should be doing A) she won't cheat and B) you won't care if she does because you'll just move her from "main bitch" to "alternate to the backup side bitch." I used to sweat it when I didn't hear from a chick I was dating and it was 4 a.m. on "girl's night." Know what I'm doing at 4 a.m. on "girl's night" now? Fucking sleeping after pounding out my side bitch at 2 a.m. and not picking up the phone when drunk slut calls because if she wants to fuck me she can do it when I'm awake, and no girl wants to fuck at 4 a.m. anyway, they'll be "too tired" or "too drunk" when really it's "too sore from the dude I fucked behind the bar." You like getting roped into cuddling a drunk bitch? Me either, so don't facilitate it. If you're worrying about your bitch cheating on you you're doing it wrong.
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Part A is wrong
Part B is dead true, you shouldn't care because you should expect zero loyalty from a bitch and they can easily be replaced if you want to do so
DidUBringTheStuff 8y ago
Girlfriend of 2 years went out jogging one night and met a dude and got his number. A few months later she dumped me, right before christmas. Saw pictures of her out with some dude on her friend's facebook and when I asked her about it she said that she had met him while we were still dating and exchanged numbers (for some bullshit reason like "he said he knew some workout tips"...totally unrelated to why he's fucking her, of course). And her conscience is totally clear about it too lol, she's not a cheater on a technicality. These girls that have been showered with everything they've wanted are so out of touch when it comes to morality and taking responsibility.
On that day I learned what emotional affairs were.
I wouldn't wish a relationship with that snake on any dude.
KyfhoMyoba 8y ago
How many other backups does she have that didn't quite measure up to this one? Or were unavailable when she needed him?
DidUBringTheStuff 8y ago
idk man. She's one of those really "flirtatious" people by default, so who really knows. It's just an excuse anyway.
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Even if you do find out, she won't fully disclose what she's done, you have to pry it out of her piece by piece - but it's never the full story. I was 'lucky' enough to have a mutual friend with an ex who had full accounts of what had been done behind my back, and it took a huge effort and a thousand denials to get her to admit to the full details (and what about the times when the mutual friend wasn't there?). This was before TRP and I wouldn't even bother with any of that now, but it amazed me that even though I was quite calm and simply wanted her to admit the truth now that I'd caught her, she wouldn't give it up.
Read enough of this sub and you see even the most red pill amongst us are randomly cheated on when their girls got drunk and "it just happened!" It takes a woman with unnatural self control to keep her hypergamy/feels in check, and the fact is most of your LTRs have cheated on you and would do again.
voomer53 8y ago
Beware the trickle-truth... they will never admit to the whole enchilada not ever...same as their n-count...don't be fooled...AWALT
stonepimpletilists 8y ago
why even pry? Once you see the trickle-truth, you already know enough to take action, the rest are just details, they won't change the outcome.
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Because I knew the full truth, told her exactly what I knew, and thought she'd be decent enough to admit to it. But she just acted like a child caught acting out, as you might expect. Like I said this was before TRP so I still cared about her response.
seattle1971 8y ago
Yes, it's an unfortunate truth. With the nature of hypergamy and branch-swinging and the inherent nature or narcissism that is embedded in both, women will always fuck in a way that makes their feeeeelings feeeeeeel right. I'll never trust a woman, ever again.
vengefully_yours 8y ago
I trust nobody, women even less, but I trust girls to be girls and they always prove themselves to be exactly that.
FeeFeeFeaster 8y ago
If you saw Jackie Brown, Samuel L. Jackson's character says "You can't trust Melanie, but you can always trust Melanie to be Melanie."
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Borsao66 8y ago
This is truth.
Ok, CSB time. Had a LTR (widow) that I soft-next'd back in late 2013 because she was utterly incapable of telling the truth about anything. We kept in infrequent contact with each other while I was helping her daughter with getting set up for college. The ex had started dating a BB in 2014 and after about a year started asking me for help with her new house (BB was a fucking sloth). I didn't know the RP term at the time, but I'd created an alpha widow unknowingly.
Yeah, all summer this year, I'd be wrecking it and 5 minutes after we were done, she'd be on the phone telling him how much she missed him and was looking forward to seeing him again. I hard next'd her back in August once I saw how truly deceitful she was capable of being.
Edit: Grammar and formatting.
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Women lie and manipulate with ease. Thats l I meant to conbe
MuzakNinja 8y ago
I don't think you understand the true nature of yourself. Fucking scum.
Elguappo 8y ago
This is basic shit that you should learn just from reading the sidebar yet this kind of stuff continually gets repeated in this sub. I understand that there is a lot of new people that are in the throes of the anger phase but there seems to be a lot of blaming women for being women and how they respond to the current environment and culture.
This stuff shouldn't be a surprise to us. We know about hypergamy. We know monogamy is becoming an outdated concept. Monogamy was a mutually beneficial arrangement that was compatible with the conservative past but that's over now.
The situation we are in today is females losing any need for pretense when pursuing their sexual imperatives. Good on them, seriously. If Redpill should teach you anything it is that WE(men) to wake the fuck up and drop any pretense to pursue our sexual imperatives. If we do this women will react accordingly.
Don't rage or express outrage at women for being women. Be angry at society and our culture for lying to you your whole life and expecting you to suppress your nature by settling down and exalting women. Express annoyance at beta men who give low SMV women a safety net. If we raise the bar, they will react accordingly.
I know alot of people on this sub like to say "The more betas there are the better, less competition for me". I see where you are coming from with that but, to be honest, I am of the opinion that competition raises the bar for everyone and is ultimately better for both men and women.
EDIT: Just to be clear I am not disagreeing the OP. Quite the contrary. This post is more aimed at people whom this post upsets. People on this sub who constantly refer to women as sluts and shit even when it is not warranted.
[deleted] 8y ago
I should have been clearer with whom my audience was.
Obviously, the RP aware are more likely to spot the infidelity but it amuses me to hear men think they can lift their way out of harms way
Elguappo 8y ago
My response was more aimed at people who read your post and get angry at women for being women. I get sick of the people in this sub who scream cunt and slut and rage at women just for the sake of it. Not trying to white knight but people shouldn't get pissed at women for their nature. Understand their nature and use that information. Focus on you and use your anger as fuel to that end.
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I understand why they are angry and its normal, its a process.
I don't interupt their process, its not hepful to them.
BewareOfDropbears 8y ago
She's not "yours" lads, it's just your turn.
fantasmas05 8y ago
Bang on. I've been with way too many girls who have husbands or boyfriends to think any woman would be faithful to me.
ben0wn4g3 8y ago
Could this not be confirmation bias?
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truenorth00 8y ago
This. OMG this. I find this with a lot chicks that guys around me talk about. I find most are 6s or lower on my scale. And despite my standards, my wife still says that I have low standards. LOL. So imagine what that says about these dudes.
Hoodwink 8y ago
Yes and no.
I've been unattractive in my life. That was when I was blue-pilled the easiest because I was most useful to girls/women as non-sexual future-wallet. When I became more attractive, women changed into submissive tarts.
Women don't value relationships much at all when you get down to nitty gritty - at least, not in the way men have been blue-pilled if they listen to women being able to help you when you're down and sticking through thick and thin or having empathy or being equal partners and all that jazz. Those aren't the rules of attraction. They might make a good partner, but most women aren't out to be a good partner, they're out to find status/money in a relationship.
The good majority of women are the worst kind of sluts. There are very, very few 'good girls'. I thought the world would be the opposite of this growing up (I had one friend group consisting of Evangelicals). I even see a lot of stay-at-home mothers as successful sluts who still can't be a 'good girl' because they never were taught or shamed into it. Most people's relationships are jokes.
vengefully_yours 8y ago
The last thing a bitch wants to do is be there for you when you're down, even if you're just sick. Look at the way they portray men with the flu or a cold. Fuck, a cold or the flu pisses me off, it doesn't leave me crying like a girl in bed. It takes something major to slow me down, so when it does I'm usually very fucked up. You get sick, she loses attraction, it's that simple. She wants you to be strong, impervious to everything, capable of overcoming anything and having no effect on you. She doesn't want to take care of you, you're supposed to take care of her, you're the strong one, she isn't. That's why being a parent or stay at home mom is so difficult for them.
Vasallo7G 8y ago
"It's fuck your buddy, cheat on your wife, call your mother on Mother's Day. Charlie, it's all shit."
fantasmas05 8y ago
Take this attitude: "you are probably not the first guy to fuck her and you probably won't be the last"
It's just your turn.
ben0wn4g3 8y ago
Well that is obvious. But I'm just saying that the wags (wives and gfs) you hook up with are always going to be the slags. I have hooked up with plenty of wags but I should always remember the multitude of times I have been 'rejected' by wags.
vengefully_yours 8y ago
Come to the dark side. It's fun over here. I've pulled slutty wives, and apparently chaste and loyal "good girl" wives. Every fucking one of them will cheat. All they need is opportunity and plausible deniability and they'll make their best effort to branch swing to someone who appears to be higher value than the man she is with.
The sweetest girl I've ever met eye fucked me and openly hit on me when my friend wasn't in the room, tons of ioi's from flipping her hair to wiggling her ass at me. I could have fucked her at any time while I rented a room from him over the winter. I didn't because I needed a place to live more than I needed a piece of ass. They broke up a while back, and next opportunity I get, she's getting some vengeful fucking.
Funny thing, his current girlfriend was trying hard to get attention from me the other night after I held frame and didn't cave to her bullshit shaming tactics. She had to have touched me thirty times, but her funky face and attitude are a huge turn off to me.
thethirdcoast 8y ago
I just had my first foray into the dark side this past weekend, and this is all true.
ben0wn4g3 8y ago
This is just more confirmation bias. Think back to the times you tried and failed.
rp-oldgame 8y ago
You're an idiot. Not every woman on the face of the earth wants to fuck Mr. Vengefully_Yours, just because he gets shot down by one doesn't mean they're absolutely guaranteed NOT to go fuck somebody else instead.
vengefully_yours 8y ago
No, not really. I rarely fail because I can read her body language and know their tells. I can see plain as day when a bitch wants to fuck me, and I take advantage of it.
ben0wn4g3 8y ago
One word. Idiot.
How you are endorsed is painful. You pathetic maggot.
vengefully_yours 8y ago
One word.
Amusing.
Second word.
Ignorant.
Luckyluke23 8y ago
You just have to acpet it. Dont get angry. Dont get bitter just get better
thebadmanpuntdbaxter 8y ago
While you should never let your guard down, it still has to be said that you shouldn't walk into every relationship thinking that the girl is a lieing cheating Whore. She just has the potential to be if she isn't satisfied with her man.
Maintaining a masculine persona is your best defense to infidelity, but that only extends to guys who are below you in SMV. If you let her swim with sharks, she's getting eaten, all up in that puss. If your presence as a leader is strong, she'll have less inclination to go out with her girlfriends and let it "just sorta happened." Spend Friday night with her anywhere but drinking your face off at a dive bar(ie glass of wine at a jazz club, prepping for an early hike on Saturday, skinny dipping in your neighbors pool). Why? You want to enjoy life, not depress it.
vengefully_yours 8y ago
That is exactly how you should view her. The moment you tell yourself she won't and she senses it, she will start lookin for strange cock.
As for assuming if you're alpha enough, that's wrong too. I've pulled girls from alphas obviously above me, and damn are they pissed when short, old, fat looking me is banging his girl. Also from tall guys with more money. They crave the excitement of a new cock in their ass, and that gives someone like me a huge advantage over her ltr boyfriend or husband. She's bored with him, so I only have to appear better than his boring self, not how he appears to the rest of the world.
Then you have the cheat codes so to speak. Insult her, get her emotional with some negs, play it off as jokes, and she is pudding quivering for a pounding. That is way too easy, and I like a challenge to make it more fun, so I haven't done that in a long time and only pull it out to break dry spells or when I'm in monk and just want to get laid once or twice.
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Um...No.
Only way to keep her faithful is if she thinks you will find out and dump her. Your smv can't save you as her vagina tingles happen anyway. Sometimes for guys that are weaker just cause they are different
TRPhd 8y ago
Or as revenge.
Fail shit tests... beta, weak, cheat on you.
Fail comfort tests... asshole, doesn't love me, cheat on you.
The only way to win is to not play the (married) game. She can't cheat if you're not monogamous.
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stonepimpletilists 8y ago
I can shorten that up for you
mitigate risk. Know... know that you can replace her in a week.
Abundance makes your head clear enough to see things, willing enough to walk away when it's no longer beneficial, and have the ability to succeed when you do
philovivero 8y ago
You got that backward. Alimony is tax deductible for you and taxable for her. Child support is not.
Child support is a fucking nightmare.
Danedina 8y ago
This is the part that always makes me laugh. What makes you think you can reprogram a grown woman? Women are many things, but they are not stupid when it comes to manipulation and telling you what you want to hear. OP is right, they're better than we are at creating a facade.
Even if I accepted that what you say is possible, who the hell has that much time to devote to his woman? I travel for work, sometimes for up to two weeks at a time. She could have the Tinder account up, running and deleted by the time I come back and her affair would have the same place in her memory as 50 Shades of Gray.
stonepimpletilists 8y ago
Don't take the phrase literally.
It's like when you have a girl 'act right', It's just shorthand for being her best option, and imparting the wisdom that your boundaries are non-negotiable.
Not so much training, as it is achieving your ideal outcome.
Hoodwink 8y ago
I think there's a reason why men go for young women. Assured paternity. Training. Marriage ceremonies even have the father handing the daughter off to the husband.
The whole system was to control women's sexual behaviors because when you take an honest look at it - even the best women will succumb to someone more alpha almost instantaneously (even more so today with the current legal system and government providing or taking money from the father). The beta strategy of sexual behavior is at a low point in today's modern world.
CUNTASAURUS_REX 8y ago
This is accurate..I have gotten tinder numbers who had their account active for an hour before deleting it after getting some numbers
MRSubM 8y ago
indeed. You cant reprogram nature, to even have a chance of doing it you would have to be a sociopath and destroy a human being and mentally retrain them, it would create a monster.
You cant retrain women to do anything, they just follow the rules you set if it suits their needs. They would stray the moment some other benefit became a priority.
wehadtosaydickety 8y ago
Just because urges are there doesn't mean all people act on them. I want to fuck every HB6+ I see walk by when I have a girlfriend, but I know the difference between idle fantasy and making it happen.
You can talk about SMV and tingles and whatever but the fact is not every woman cheats on her husband.
MuleJuiceMcQuaid 8y ago
Women are the fish, of course it's simple to not catch them when you aren't hungry. Occasionally one will jump in your boat, but it's easy to toss it back.
But women swim through every hook in the water. It can't be easy.
ben0wn4g3 8y ago
Try swimming through every hook while under the influence and then the most AMAZING worm catches your eye.
Denying any pleasure when shit faced is hard. Promised youd eat healthy this week? Got drunk? Kebab tonight... Fuck it! Regret it the next day. Hell yeah.
thebadmanpuntdbaxter 8y ago
It's still a function of SMV, but adjusted for the excitement of cheating. Yes, she has the potential to cheat with someone a notch below you, but he's only in the potential range because cheating in itself makes her feel more on top of what his smv does. You make it sound like she would literally jump in bed with any dude.
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If she thinks you wont find out or dump her if you do find out she will cheat with men lower then your special snowflake self
thebadmanpuntdbaxter 8y ago
No need to have an attitude bud. I've already said that she'd cheat with men below you if they were still within riskable limits for the feelings gained in cheating. She probably won't sleep with the fat fast food cashier, unless you worked behind him at the grill.
BluepillProfessor 8y ago
In fact she is likely to stop fucking you or provide barely starfish because, you know, screwing her husband would be cheating on her boyfriend.
I would have to say the post upsets me a little bit but then I never claimed to understand the true nature of women.
philovivero 8y ago
Oh dear god the money quote.
"Screwing her husband would be cheating on her boyfriend."
That's some top-shelf knowledge right there.
exbp 8y ago
Or her guilt might make her determined to fuck your brains out that night. Or she might finally allow that threesome you've been hinting at to "make things even". Or she might just give you the old starfish on the usual schedule to deflect any suspicion. Who knows where the hamster wheel might stop?
Point is, you won't know because she won't act like what a man would expect.
RedDeadlift 8y ago
Boom. This right here. I was living with an ex-LTR a few years ago and out of the blue she starts suggesting a 3-some. At the time, I thought I hit the jackpot but I later found out that's the time she started cheating on me.
TRPKing 8y ago
I think this post has to be at least a little upsetting to any man in an LTR. No matter how redpill and realistic a guy is, no matter how alpha and selfassured a man is, just the thought of the possibility of being cheated on is so humiliating, it elicits a visceral fear reaction. Personally, I'm at the top of my game in every aspect of my life, I'm certain I could get another woman in a heartbeat and I would not hesitate for a second to dump my LTR if she cheated, but the thought of my LTR cheating on me is upsetting. I would no doubt overcome it, my happiness is not dependent on any woman, but the betrayal and humiliation would be extremely hurtful. It is a possibility that cannot be eliminated, but must be mitigated, I cannot simply accept that possibility, I must do what I can to avoid that happening to me. Of course we all know how to mitigate that possibility, maintaining an alpha mindset and continuous self improvement.
TheReformist94 8y ago
this is a fucking quality reply. no matter how many plates you have, or how on top of your shit, emotionally bonding with someone and them cheating on you fucking hurts. its pointless when people say "oh spin plates" "oh its just oxytocin" "oh its oxytocin withdrawal". yeh cool, well that life is, something, biologically has to give us these feelings, it does matter if its oxytocin or dopamine. the feelings are still genuine. if i shot someones mate, i could just say yeh well get another one, he's 75% water, a pile of cells and his mind is jsut a network of dopamine serotonin and oxytocin. it still hurts.
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I wrote the post to upset people. Every word is true, but what will you do to in your own life to regain your balance?
james-watson 8y ago
The key is to change your mindset. Women LOVE it when their actions affect men. The ultimate nuke in their arsenal is cheating on you during an LTR. If you believe it is humiliating to be cheated on, then you'll be humiliated.
But if, instead, you understand the evolutionary impulses of the fickle female homo sapien brain, then females cheating on you is like a healthy adult suddenly falling dead after a brain aneurysm. It doesn't happen often, but it happens, and you just have to accept that is the nature of complex organisms.
As it goes with women, they will never adhere to what your ideals of them are. They are their own organisms with their own evolved behavioral traits. Nothing you or I can do will change that. That's the ultimate Red Pill. Evolution's will cannot be denied, it is ever present and infinite. To struggle against it or to believe that it can be fought is delusional.
Accept that it happens and focus on enjoying your life on this planet. Never give a female power over you by believing that her behavior in any way reflects you. She is but a traveller who you've allowed to camp with you for a period of time at your discretion. If she breaks your rules, she's out.
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This is an excellent well thought out response
slay_it_forward 8y ago
It's not just betrayal and humiliation, it's the fact that you've bonded with her and that primal part of you wants to possess her to keep only your sperm shooting into her eggs.
That disgusted, visceral, sick feeling is your body being repulsed by the pair-bonded woman being impregnated by another male.
There is an evolutionary biology professor called David Buss that talks about all these biological phenomenon. His work is very red pill. He has a book on jealousy that says who you are jealous of generally has merit, contrary to what your gf will tell you. Your subconscious was designed to warn you of these things. Pay attention.
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That's why when you know your woman is into a guy you can thwart the attraction by being the opposite of jealous.
Tease her relentlessly about the new "loverboy" and remind her she can test the waters anytime and you will understand. You will be fucking other women by sunset but you don't wanna hold her back
stonepimpletilists 8y ago
I disagree on the 'you'll never know' though.
Theres always signs, you just have to be able to see them. GNO every week? sign. Hiding phone? Sign. General change in behaviour for no good reason? Sign.
Just have to take a read through relationships for a while, you'll see all kinds of guys hamstering themselves into the NAWALT attitude professor. I know I bring it up way too much, but the navy is a good experience when people want to see AWALT on hard-mode. Women there play for blood
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stonepimpletilists 8y ago
a one off, of course. If she doesn't have guilt, not much you can do there.
But how often are guys here getting a 'one off' situation fucking them over? I'll play the odds.
[deleted] 8y ago
Not so sure professor
The impetus for the post was the fact that I met a married plate after work @ hotel and when we were getting dressed she told me that she was meeting her husband to watch the baseball game. Said she promised him sex if the Mets won.
Maybe she just said that to try and incite some jealousy but I actually believe her.
adamalan 8y ago
That means she has him on a drip feed of sex. Just enough, not too much, dangling it out there to string him along.
In a healthy marriage sex would be such a nearly every day event such a promise would be meaningless.
stonepimpletilists 8y ago
At that point, why not just jerk off then, save the dissapointment.
DougieTheCaker 8y ago
You're a bad liar. I don't disagree with the message of the post, but I'm certain you are lying about this particular event.
If you want to know what / how your phrasing gives it away feel free to ask.
stonepimpletilists 8y ago
lol, you read through CADs life? Boys hard core red, he's earned the credibility
lono12 8y ago
However did you figure it out
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RpReborn 8y ago
True story. Just have to take my work for it. 100% authentic and as RP as one gets. We were once BP, once slaves to the world that was pulled over our eyes. When you wake, learn, understand and apply this to your life you will really that this is far from the realm of possibility. Apply this to your life 100% and you will shock yourself daily with the results. And it's so much easier and less effor tha. The pretending we all did before.
exbp 8y ago
Yah nobody bets on the Mets winning
Grompher 8y ago
I think she knows that. She's betting on the Mets to lose. Which means no sex with her beta husband. Remember; she doesn't want Barney beta after Chad stretched her out and wore her out.
[deleted] 8y ago
You got me, everything I have written in the past year is a lie. I even fooled the mods who endorsed me.
Im really a chubby feminist with bluehair and lunchlady arms trolling you guyz
BluepillProfessor 8y ago
I knew it! Damn, I lose the mods bet.
stonepimpletilists 8y ago
in reality you hug your wife and watch netflix, while actually chilling.
DougieTheCaker 8y ago
Not everything but a few things. A little white lie every now and again is OK for the greater good don't worry brah.
[deleted] 8y ago
I twist a fact here and there mostly to keep doxing harder. You see, I get regular hatemail from fattyfemmes.
The scenario above happened verbatim. We met an hour before the game started and she left in early innings
rmoviesok 8y ago
So she got to the game ~inning 5? Real waste of an expensive baseball ticket right there.
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Watching in bar, nvr said attend game
Nazrath2112 8y ago
So let me see if I get this straight, you thought up this post because you were fucking some married chick and ALL men wont be able to sense it because some beta fuck did not sense that you were fucking his wife?
I mean hell even a women has more pantomimes than men and you still can't tell?
vengefully_yours 8y ago
Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, or you're being a trolling cunt intentionally. I suspect you're exactly the type he is talking about, thinking you would know if your precious snowflake ever cheated on you. We'll, you're either that guy or your a silly girl who thinks she isn't a bad person despite having cheated, because it wasn't really cheating.
Your bullshit posts indicate this thread his close to home, and you get defensive because in the back of your mind you know he is right, but you want to argue the same tired old bullshit nawalt crap.
He never said all men, fucking read for content not what you think it says about you personally. I am one of those men who can tell immediately when a bitch either cheats or decides she is going to cheat. The reason I can is ptsd and extensive experience, my hypervigilance allows me to read people extremely effectively and having seen nearly every bitch I've dated or fucked cheat (either with me or on me) I know very well what to look for. Once you've learned how to read the near imperceptible difference between your abusive asshole family member having fun then starting to beat the fuck out of you, it's incredibly easy to read girls. They're very shallow and have gotten away with it so often they don't bother trying to hide the specific tells, they only hide the obvious ones.
If all you want to do is twist things, and troll about nawalt, go over to the blue pill and whine to them. Your bullshit isn't appreciated here.
Nazrath2112 8y ago
Thank you so much for your tone policing. You have shown me the error of my ways, thanks so much.
You want to talk about reading comprehension but yet miss the fact that I was literally the first poster on this thread and OP has since edited his post, but yea I cannot comprehend reading. Attention to detail is your friend, friend.
As far as my bullshit not being appreciated here, thank god I dont post here for your appreciation. Any other tone policing you want to do?
[deleted] 8y ago
I said that this single experience made me think up a post based on a lifetime of experiences.
Are you dim?
Nazrath2112 8y ago
So your lifetime of experiences made you think that ALL men would not be able to sense a chick cheating on them? Basing this on a singular or a multitude of experiences does not mean anything when you say that no one will be able to tell.
I have no bio-luminescence so I am neither bright nor dim.
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[deleted] 8y ago
When we say AWALT we don't mean every last women will DO that. We mean all women are capable of that.
You keep looking for unicorns
Nazrath2112 8y ago
I could give two fucking shits about some stupid bitches. You are mistaking my criticism of your post to be related to the part about bitches. Na dude I dont give a fuck about that.
I do care that you portray ALL men, especially RP men, as some dim witted Neanderthal who does not have the wherewithal to tell if some chick is trying to keep something from them. If we do not know women better than some beta fuck, why are we here?
Rougepellet 8y ago
The ratio of RP/Alpha men to betas, male feminists (the worst), manginas, white knights, etc would justify the post.
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I think it's fair to say that if you agree with my post then you do know women better than some beta fucks and you may just nail her in her deceit
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GrandmasterHurricane 8y ago
Dude, I think you're letting RP get to your head. You think you'll always know when you're being cheated on? The fact that you like know it all will be your downfall.
Nazrath2112 8y ago
Yes I will know each and every time, that is exactly right. I never fail nor read things incorrectly. Being cheated on means that you actually care about the chick and are putting her up on a ped and not accepting abundance mentality.
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drallcom3 8y ago
A LTR only works if she can have the fear of losing your commitment. With current laws it can't happen.
stonepimpletilists 8y ago
it's the problem, assuming man-thinking on a woman.
Yes, divorce-rape is a thing, as is custody. But the girl brain doesn't normally have that kind of long term thinking. If you're not a pathetic schlub, she can't think past the 'losing high quality man' aspect, especially as she gets older. The vindictive woman thing comes after the checkout, and she's frantically grabbing at branches while falling.
Thats why it's so routine what to expect. You're duck allofasudden got smaller, you're probably gay, definitely beat her, poor father who touches his daughter etc. Those aren't calculated plans, those are throwing anything against the wall to get something to stick
truenorth00 8y ago
Disagree. It's just harder to leave. But that does not mean the threat holds no value. Fewer men willing to exercise it. Which is why more women file for divorce first.... They get their ducks in order and then file. If they know you'd file the minute you found out....
ben0wn4g3 8y ago
This is why you snoop gentleman. Every little trick under the sun. It's not about being insecure. It's about awalt and not being a cuck.
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I am a big fan of "trust but verify"
stonepimpletilists 8y ago
Reagan beat the commies with that idea.
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NeoreactionSafe 8y ago
Marriage 1.0 was specifically designed to penalize female hypergamy. If a woman was caught cheating she lost everything and was thrown out on the street penniless in a divorce. (without her children)
Women eventually get the vote. (1920)
Marriage 2.0 reversed all the laws of Marriage 1.0. Now when things go badly it is the man who gets divorce raped.
So marriage has a completely absurd meaning now.
It's not that "marriage is bad" so much as that "marriage is no longer authentic".
You cannot marry as it was designed and practiced throughout most of human history. We live in very strange times where values are inverted so that nature is intentionally obscured.
During most of human history men were more or less Red Pill and held a negative view of hypergamy.
Being a slut was once actually a bad thing in people's eyes.
(hard to imagine, but this is true)
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BluepillProfessor 8y ago
I have often argued from a Biblical perspective, Christ's proscription of divorce no longer applies. He was talking about Marriage 1.0, not the completely different and alien institution of Marriage 2.0.
NeoreactionSafe 8y ago
I agree.
The original biblical marriage was correct.
The state now defines marriage in such a way as to destroy the institution of marriage itself.
Thanks big government and the oligarchs for screwing up our world !
Do me a favor and watch this and get everyone you know to as well:
Documentary Films: Edward Snowden Full Movie 2015 - YouTube
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctusLXu9zK4
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41divorcedandfree 8y ago
I tricked my wife of 20 years of admitting to having an affair over the summer. I sure as fuck knew it. But all my beta friends told me I was fucking crazy and delusional so I let it continue thinking I was being jealous and petty. Never again.
BluepillProfessor 8y ago
How did you do that? Would love to hear the story.
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SpinPlates 8y ago
When I was in high school I lost my virginity to girl with a boyfriend. We fucked every day after school and then she would go to her BFs house at night.
One day she came over to my place and she was REALLY done up, like professionally done hair and make up was on point and had a really nice dress on. I didn't say anything about it until hours later when she was leaving and she said "Oh it's BF's name birthday and we're going to dinner with his parents" so nonchalantly.
Later at night, I was on Facebook and she posted a picture of her at dinner with her boyfriend, giving him a kiss on the cheek and a present in a little box with a bowtie. Caption was something along the lines of "Happy birthday baby I love you! xoxoxo"
6 hours ago she was slurping my cock and swallowing my load and now she's kissing her BF on his birthday.
Sometimes I wonder if she single handedly ruined women for me because I can't invest myself into an LTR when I know this kind of shit happens all the time.
symko 8y ago
Hey! You contributed to his birthday! You got some of your semen germs on his cheek. Talk about thinking of the perfect gift at the last minute! /s
boomerbux 8y ago
When I landed my first real job at a large corporation, my biggest surprise was that all the women who flirted openly with me were married, the single ones were far less aggressive. I dabbled a few times, but turned down many, mostly because I wasn't all that attracted. But there is something definitely exciting about an affair, and I'm a bit of an adrenaline junkie. My longest affair with a very intelligent and hot, older, higher ranked exec ended when she realized her husband just could not compete with the excitement, passion etc of a new, younger guy, who spent more time with her than her husband did. Not to mention business trips, meetings out of town, etc. Her conscience did get to her, or something. She told me she knew he suspected, as he made some casual remarks about affairs, but he clearly didn't want to confront her, just wanted her to stop. So she did. p.s. I have lived/worked in several countries, including Japan, and it was the same everywhere. Japanese married women were quite aggressive, but there are cultural reasons for that.
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Accept women for what they are, dont hate them
SpinPlates 8y ago
Lol. I'm far beyond that stage my friend. What I meant to say is that she woke me up to Redpill at a very young age.
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Ah, I see.
The world is your oyster.
monetmanet 8y ago
Why is this message relayed so often here? Men and women are entitled to follow their own interests. Everyone cheats.
stonepimpletilists 8y ago
Slap upside the head, knocking sense into people.
the sub has grown so large, so fast, that theres enough new people to constantly need this as reinforcement.
doveenigma13 8y ago
As far as cheating sex goes yeah. When they find another "provider" type guy then yes you certainly will know.
IronMeltsinmyHands 8y ago
Yeesh! I gotta find me a married woman.
Hoodwink 8y ago
Girls in long-term relationships are some the easiest.
No joke.
If she drinks, and she's away from her husband - she's down.
stonepimpletilists 8y ago
it's at least a girl able to be discreet, and not blow up your facebook with stupid shit
loin_fruit 8y ago
A lot of guys find banging taken chicks (especially married chicks) not morally right. So it cuts down the competition and makes it easier to plate them and turn them into a good obedient plate.
Stargazer34 8y ago
You can't expect fidelity from a woman, it's just your turn. BAM, case closed.
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Anderfail 8y ago
Do none of you actually look into the woman's past when you get involved with them? Jesus Christ I mean it took me one relationship with a women who had divorced parents who sucked at raising her to realize I would never again get involved with someone like that.
My wife comes from a very tight knit family with an alpha father. Is our relationship perfect? No, obviously not but the point is that she was raised to value integrity and to respect men.
The women who do this are usually easy to spot. They all have certain tells in their body language and they rarely ever come from a background where both parents are still together and the father actually is a real patriarch.
Does this make them perfect? No. Does it make them impervious to cheating? No. It does however make them far less apt to fall into that trap though and these women usually have enough wherewithal to remove themselves from situations where it may happen.
One of the main issues I have with this sub is that it appears that many of the people here simply suck at evaluating women in large part because they themselves came from similar backgrounds.
The fact is, if you want an actual LTR, you should avoid women who come from families where her parents are divorced or from families where her mother dominates her father. Yes this will limit your potential list a lot, but it's a necessity. The former are basically only useful as a plate and are not going to be reliable in an LTR.
Scott_WWS 8y ago
One look at a daughter-father relationship will tell you what exactly she expects from a Man.
She didn't know her Father? A few PUA lines, treat her like shit and she'll be on her back in hours.
Strong Father and a close relationship with him + conservative parents = she will expect you to be a big strong Alpha and will respect nothing less.
Anderfail 8y ago
Yep and she also won'f even bother with any guy she thinks of as beta. She won't even talk with them and will likely have few male friends if any at all. Being a conservative woman, she may have had a one night stand or two (most people do at some point), but she is heavily oriented towards long term relationships and provided the guy is an alpha who doesn't screw up, she will be very loyal and will be your biggest cheerleader.
These women are easy to spot if you know what to look for. It's why my wife is my wife. Is our relationship perfect? No, but I have experienced very few of the issues I see many of the men here experience. My wife is strong-willed as hell and she expects me to be even more strong-willed. I learned my lesson about taking her for granted in that I stopped trying in the relationship and got lazy. I have since corrected that problem.
NickCiufi 8y ago
I'd really be interested to see some studies regarding likelihood of cheating and parental involvement. I have a strong hunch that we could scientifically verify everything you guys are saying.
Scott_WWS 8y ago
My Wife's Grandmother, she was drafted to WWII and her father, who was too old to be drafted went to the draft board and argued that he should go instead, the draft board approved.
Her lesson to my Wife:
"When a Man comes along and tries to "Wow" you with his bullshit, look at what he does, not at what he says. Before I met your Grandfather, the standard for every Man who wanted to date me was, 'My Grandfather took my place in the war, what's your game?' And it took a STRONG Alhpa (her Grandfather) to step up and fill that role."
Moral of the story: PUA works on girls who have weak dads. My Wife would laugh at any PUA tactic. But, as you say, she always expects from me - the kind of guy who would take her place in the war. Big shoes and so long as I'm filling them, she's not looking around. Oh, and don't forget the weekly drama ;-)
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BakerAtNMSU 8y ago
how can i tell when she's lying to me? easy...
her lips are moving. AWALT...
Joseph_the_Carpenter 8y ago
If you are honestly uxorious, and devoted to one woman, then bow your head and submit your neck ready to bear the yoke. Never will you find a woman who spares the man who loves her; for though she be herself aflame, she delights to torment and plunder him. So the better the man, the more desirable he be as a husband, the less good by far will he get out of his wife. No present will you ever make if your wife forbids; nothing will you ever sell if she objects; nothing will you buy without her consent. She will arrange your friendships for you; she will turn your now-aged friend from the door which saw the beginnings of his beard. Panders and trainers can make their wills as they please, as also can the gentlemen of the arena; but you will have to write down among your heirs more than one rival of your own.
Juvenal's 6th satire, on women. The rest is even more scathing and I encourage everyone to read it. I'll write up a post for it and go over it briefly in a few days.
Riddick_ 8y ago
Not much really changed in the last 2000 years - Looking forward to your post. Make it extra special and add the part about ... "throw the bolt and lock her in.”
redparadigm 8y ago
Damn man, looking forward to your post. This shit is spot on.
bea5tly 8y ago
I had a girl ask for a ride home from work one time. I jokingly said ass or pay for gas. She said she'd give me head so I was down for it. So I get her and she does the deed and we keep driving. I drop her off at the house to her boyfriend waving to her from the door way.
She told him I was her good friend who she ran into randomly and got a ride home with.. She kissed him on the lips as I was backing out of the drive way.
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Nothing personal to the bf..just a blow job for the guy who gave her a ride and made her Gina tingle
max_peenor 8y ago
I dunno. I just get the feeling that if your wife makes it a regular thing to go out at night with other people, she will get around to fucking other people. Yeah, people need space from time to time, I get that. There is a big difference between alone time and not-with-you social time. If it is a pair bond, most socializing should be done as a pair.
(Note, men heading into the woods to hunt or whatever isn't social time. That's male business. Women getting together to make a quilt is female business. Social time is when you head out for the explicit purpose of just meeting and dealing with other people.)
KyfhoMyoba 8y ago
This is a no-brainer for anyone more than a week into TRP. GNOs are an excuse to be in a place with alcohol and single horny men while out of sight/accountability of their husbands, i.e., a plan to cheat.
B_uckets 8y ago
Why hasn't anyone started a service where you pay to have some really hot, suave dude try to pick up your girlfriend / wife and record his attempt if he's successful?
I'd pay at least as much as an escort is worth for that.
Nogoodsense 8y ago
They have this exact thing in Japan.
Other interesting Japan facts:
A man has grounds for divorce if his wife won't have sex with him.
A woman has grounds for divorce if her husband won't provide for the family.
rp-oldgame 8y ago
There are plenty of private detective agencies who will do this for you. Most of the time though, it's the woman hiring them.
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doveenigma13 8y ago
Pretty sure there's dudes that would do it for free. Just for the youtube props.
Dylan_Tnga 8y ago
Why are we not funding this?
Overzealous_BlackGuy 8y ago
Because.... Its just my fucking turn. You can not expect fidelity, why force infedility? Enjoy yourself first and foremost and keep moving.
Dylan_Tnga 8y ago
Well because although AWALT is true 99% of cases every rule has an exception. It's possible to fall in love with someone and an anonymous test like this could really tell you if you found the right girl or she's the typical woman who will jump on Chad's dick at the first available opportunity regardless of her SO.
james-watson 8y ago
My friend, my friend. You need to use a slightly more nuanced model.
When a girl falls in love with a man she finds alpha, and is in the honeymoon period (approx first 6 months), then she won't even think about other men. She'll do whatever you want, be a submissive little pet. Very rarely would a woman cheat in this state.
Now, move on past the 1 yr, 3yr, 5yr marks, and things start looking very different. There is no chemical attraction anymore, no effort put in. She's become completely desensitized to your personality, behavior and frame. This is when there is no hope. No matter what you do, she will cheat and she will leave.
Don't believe me? Have a look at celebrity relationships. Christiano Ronaldo's girlfriend cheated on him. Do you understand what that means? The most celebrated athlete worldwide, who is a multimillionaire and loved by billions, got cheated on.
Who did she fuck? Dwayne Johnson, aka the Rock. A C-level actor and former WWF wrestler. Could any man seriously consider this a move of hypergamy? At best, it was a move sideways. She had received all that CR had to offer, all of his charms and personality and fame, and became desensitized. She just wanted something different. Not better, just different.
Hypergamy doesn't always mean the man is objectively better. It's all relative to the female's perspective at the time.
In conclusion, if CR gets cheated on, then you bet your ass we will get cheated on too given enough time and opportunity. It is inevitable. Accept it and move on.
JD42305 8y ago
Where did you see that she cheated on him with The Rock? I've heard rumors he was fucking other girls on the side and she saw different women on his phone.
Dylan_Tnga 8y ago
Well put. I agree wholeheartedly. The best thing is to learn from your mistakes, if you're not an idiot it shouldn't happen more than once, or at the very least if it happens again you should see it coming a mile away.
Overzealous_BlackGuy 8y ago
But you will never know. And could waste your life worrying. I believe the moral of the story is . true love isnt for out there for everyone. Its pure luck, enjoy what you have. Monogamy really isnt that special
JumpXVI 8y ago
Love this idea. The funny thing is that if you were to change the genders, a woman wouldn't know to fire her man if her hired babe successfully wooed her man, or to fire him if he doesn't take the bait, since "preselection" or SMV or whatever. Such a service literally doesn't even make sense for a woman since the driving factor isn't whether her man would cheat, but if he would.
We all know women could cheat at any time, that's the constant. But women want to know their men can cheat, but won't. Men know their women can cheat, but want to know they won't.
jm51 8y ago
There was an AMA by a woman who said she did that for a living. No idea if she was telling the truth or not.
KyfhoMyoba 8y ago
Naaah. PIs already have people that do this, because it's a lot easier to entrap a man. The wife is after a great divorce settlement. She already knows that her man has cheated and she wants out on the best terms.
JumpXVI 8y ago
Well implied in such cases is that the man has already cheated...the service that B_uckets was describing is one where it isn't implied that your girl is cheating. Given than women can cheat at any time, men would simply be testing the fidelity of their women.
If I suspected my woman of cheating I may hire a PI to check on her, but I wouldn't have the PI expressly enlist "some really hot, suave dude" to do a deed that's already being done.
ivkustov 8y ago
You'd know. Truth is always screaming. Baby is reading face of his mother in order to understand what's happening in outside world.
You probably won't notice that she's cheating but you've noticed difference. Than time will pass she'll become more and more clumsy you'll start to dig deeper and then - Voila.
Although if you're stupid folk who are too distracted by mental story about how women are beautiful and faitful - you won't notice a shit.
Primemale 8y ago
Although I agree with this post as a general rule,(i.e. women will cheat more often than you think, and they often won't even feel guilt for it) there are men who know how to keep their women interested, alpha dudes who put their women on the back-burner to their lives, but are still important to them.
my point is that whilst a lot of women will cheat if given the chance to ''upgrade'' I have met women infatuated with their man even after several years, and it's been no coincidence that the guys have been alpha guys, who still fucked their wives/LTR several times a week consistently. I think once the sex tapers off, it means you need to shake the relationship up somewhat, although if your always improving and active etc you shouldn't have too much of a problem.
The main problem I have with posts like this is it reinforces the idea that man and woman cannot have an exclusive, monogamous relationship, which has been the case traditionally for Europeans at least for thousands of years, admittedly this was before the(primarily) Jewish cultural war on the destruction of the family unit and inter-gender relations aka feminism but still it is do-able, the relationship just can't be a typical modern day dynamic, where you coast for several years, whilst letting your girl go to clubs with her friends every weekend etc. You need boundaries and other things for her to focus on, woman are lead astray and its your job to keep them in line and to keep them infatuated with you.
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J_AsapGem 8y ago
lol this is extremely accurate, i have an example of this for you guys. Let's call her lisa, lisa is currently staying with me and my family, she's from a different country married for like 20 years i believe, been hoping on dick for groceries then calls later to check up on her family with no remorce it's so funny lol, thank God for TRP, opened my eyes. AWALT!
heal_thyself 8y ago
"I just need to rationalize this in my head". That's a direct quote, or close enough, from a married plate after we had sex. I was literally watching the hamster running, and convincing her that it was perfectly OK to cheat. THANK GOD I found TRP before then.
200mgtestc 8y ago
Left my fiancee's friend at a bar this weekend because "she was still drinking with everybody!" and drove her husband home with us.
That's just her! She just loves to have fun! I hope she gets home alright!
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST DUDE, WAKE UP.
Vietnom 8y ago
Though not necessarily wrong, this kind of thinking is deadly for mental health. Anyone who has been in a positive LTR (yes they do exist), can tell you that IT IS a friendship more than anything else. While fidelity is important to an extent, it's not the point. The point is to have a partner. It's only mainstream society that makes you think fidelity is the point, which is why so many people destroy entire lives they've built just because one person has fucked someone else. It's completely insane though if you think about it.
stonepimpletilists 8y ago
My old sailor friends and I get together at least once a year. I can guarantee my CLS is nothing like them.
Not a bad thing, it's just not the same thing
[deleted] 8y ago
No bro
If you think this way then you CAN have a positive LTR. Live in reality, not fantasy
Vietnom 8y ago
Actually, I think we're in agreement here more than I realized. I took you saying 1) don't get married as "don't be in an LTR." But what you're saying is, be in an LTR if you want, just realize that fidelity is not realistic? If that's what you're saying then I agree. But it's not realistic for either party.
[deleted] 8y ago
I like LTRs, I just dont let her be the source of my happiness anymore. Nor will I ever again. She can be replaced as its my frame or GTFO.
When she is sweet and submissive then I treat my girls very well
snow_jacket 8y ago
I think guys can generally tell. Even if they can't place that gut feeling. One married girl I was fucking told me about how her husband had started going out to bars to pick up women and it started to "scare" her. She cut things off between us after that.
Another guy just seemed to go along with it. There's no way he couldn't know yet he seemed not to know. I felt kind of bad for him since I was fucking his wife for ten months so I tried to Facebook friend him to give him some advice. He refused the request and she freaked out at me. Still kept trying to fuck me though.
All three married women I've slept with? And the fourth, being my ex wife? Yeah there is one thing they all have in common. They honestly are completely unaware that what they are doing is wrong in any conceivable way. Women don't have the slightest bit of morality or empathy for their husbands. They truly do not understand how they are doing anything wrong. I even spoke with three of them about it. I pointed out how they made a vow and how breaking your word was wrong. Women just don't see things this way. A woman's word is worth nothing.
thefisherman1961 8y ago
I don't even bother going there. One of my plates was cheating on her boyfriend with me, and after she broke up with him she wondered why I didn't want to commit to her!
KyfhoMyoba 8y ago
And people say that Dread Game doesn't work. ;)
loin_fruit 8y ago
See my main plate who is married, told me the reason she fucks me is because her husband has and does cheat on her. But I don't believe that. I believe she's hamstering reasons to cheat on him. If he really was cheating and she thought he was, I would think that would make her want to chase him and gain his "love" back
KartagoPill 8y ago
People always say. Fuck others.
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[deleted] 8y ago
I think a RP aware man has a good shot of discovery. The post was written for men at large, I shoulda said that
Incubus130 8y ago
Is there even any point in relationships. I just don't think I could get in one knowing at some point its gonna fail.
Cyralea 8y ago
"Don't say anything or act weird okay? He'd be really hurt if he found out"
Said to me by a married chick in my wider friend circle. They have no remorse whatsoever, they know what they're doing is harmful.
BaconEggsAndSleaze 8y ago
and even then, she doesn't care if he actually hurts.
She doesn't want her cover to be blown.
thefisherman1961 8y ago
Right. Her reputation is more important to her than the harm she causes by her actions.
Vasallo7G 8y ago
no you are wrong, actually she is a good girl because she doesn't want her husband to be hurt.....the fact that she fucked you is not part of the picture, at all
KyfhoMyoba 8y ago
So that means that anyone that tells on her is the one that hurt her husband, not her behavior.
evian_mars 8y ago
So you're inferring that because some women do cheat, you should not get married to any women on the basis of the aforementioned group's actions.
But other women are happily married without cheating. What do you make of that? There are certainly women who do not cheat.
Personally I consider it to be a risk/reward payoff. Of course there are no guarantees but undoubtedly it is possible for a man and women to be married without cheating.
Chinzon 8y ago
The US has a 50% divorce rate statistic. I wouldn't bet more than fifty dollars in a casino with those odds. Why in my right mind would I gamble my happiness, life and livelihood on those odds?
evian_mars 8y ago
That's society as a whole - all those single mothers getting married, remarried and then divorced numerous times, all that trailer trash who pay absolutely no consideration for the future getting married at 20 and then going mental on meth. Those are the people who make up a significant portion of that 50% stat.
Sure no doubt about it there are certainly women who are outwardly more refined but will cheat too - mostly but not exclusively because they married for status and money, and therefore have no real physical attraction for their husbands.
Equally however there are women who are happily married who haven't, and most probably won't cheat. You and you alone will have to be the judge of which women you meet fall into that category. If you have any desire to raise children within a family that's most probably going to be important.
doveenigma13 8y ago
You should not get married for a myriad of reasons.
AWALT (all women are like that) does not infer or guarantee all women will do that and at what threshold they will do it.
Every woman I have ever met would happily give up their guts to Dwayne Johnson or Vin Diesel regardless of their situation. They also gleefully explain that it wouldn't count because they're celebrities, on their "list", or some other such nonsense. AWALT, trust but verify, pick the right woman, and be prepared for the worst.
evian_mars 8y ago
You just wrote one sentence later the threshold you believe would do it.
doveenigma13 8y ago
Right. Not all women will do it. If she's living in a small town in Nebraska she's not likely to run across the Rock, or whatever man she believes is the top of the heap and has a high drive to stay moral. Most women don't fall into this spectrum and will stray for any dude with nicer hair etc.
[deleted] 8y ago
Its one reason, not the only one.
Main reason is that marriage is assuming mega liabilities with zero upside that a man cant have anyway
evian_mars 8y ago
Out of interest, do you plan on having children and raising them with one women in a monogamous relationship?
[deleted] 8y ago
I have two kids and thought I was in a monogamous relationship but then I snooped my wifes emails and learned I was bluer than papa smurf.
Now I live with wife and kids and fuck whoever I want discreetly. Staying put in marriage is good for my family and my wallet but ill never again turn my happiness over to any one woman.
evian_mars 8y ago
But yet there are undoubtedly men out there who do lead fulfilling lives married monogamously to one happily faithful women and find that to be the perfect environment to raise their children. Solely because your wife cheated on you does not preclude the possibility for everyone else of having a successful monogamous marriage in which to raise their children.
stonepimpletilists 8y ago
40% are married solid the first time.
Out of them, you know some have been cuckolded. 10% was from that random DNA testing study.
36% chance. You want to hold onto 36%? Add into that the amount of people who are probably too fat and ugly to cheat, and that number dwindles drastically.
I'm CLM, and will never go further. Just enough rope to hang herself with.
Also, you've never going to sway ultimatecad with this one... pretty hard to take your dreams, and put them against his reality
evian_mars 8y ago
Sway? There's no need to sway him, what he chooses to do is irrelevant to anyone else. Plenty of men and women do enjoy happily contentedly monogamous marriages with children. It's entirely possible to have one.
I've no idea what you mean by 'CLM' incidentally.
stonepimpletilists 8y ago
common-law marriage.
Think of it like jury rigged 1.0. Co habitation for 12 months (military) or 6 (civilian) in Canada (except quebec, to add complication)
you still have the potential for losing half your shit, but it doesn't appear nearly as stacked against you. also arbitrators and mediators, not judges help you decide the outcome.
Still almost all the same tax benefits and implications though.
either way, this one may not work. I'm sure it has it's best chance for success though. vetted her well enough, hasn't been indoctrinated with womens gendered studies nonsense, and I keep my SMV and OI high. but like Cad said... I may never know. I'm disagreeing with your plenty, only because of the assumptions I've made above.
I'd say theres plenty in 'stable marriages', but happily? That I'd have beef with. A girl with no options, and a guy battered into submissions is stable as fuck, but I'd argue happy.
KyfhoMyoba 8y ago
I would count my parents in that category, by and large. However, I know that my mom married my dad for his provisioning - she grew up dirt poor (both during the Great Depression) and he was a (her) college professor. She knew that he would always have a job/steady income, unlike her dad who was a farmer. I also know that her desire for him sexually had waned considerably as she approached mid life/menopause, and that they both went to great lengths to figure out how to give her the tingles.
They were extremely happy together, married for 60 years, very well churched, and I'm certain my mother never entertained even the thought of infidelity (that would be a sin! To look at a man with lust in your heart?! Ask Jesus for forgiveness right now!)
They don't make 'em like that anymore.
rocknrollchuck 8y ago
Yes they do, but they are rare and most men don't look for them in the right places.
[deleted] 8y ago
You just spouted the bluepill fantasy.
Even if she doesn't cheat, she will if you slip. She also doesnt love you like you think. Highly dependent on how you make her feel.
I know it hurts, thats why I wrote it
evian_mars 8y ago
It's hardly a fantasy if people are able to achieve it.
Clearly there are monogamous faithful marriages out there, what do you think is the reason for this?
KyfhoMyoba 8y ago
It used to be that the social environment supported this behavior, but not anymore. Now, they've got to be super religious. Like my mom.
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[deleted] 8y ago
If you were trying to help men you wouldn't fuck their wives.
KyfhoMyoba 8y ago
She'll fuck someone else, then. You could at least leave a quarter under the shaving cream.
[deleted] 8y ago
Or you could tell the husband.
KyfhoMyoba 8y ago
The quarter under the shaving cream is telling the husband.
Nazrath2112 8y ago
Women will not tell you when they are cheating but there are signs. If you dont know what they are you need to rewatch I know what you did last summer cause they all did something last summer.
squidracer 8y ago
If you've ever hooked up with married women the signs become pretty clear.
My favorite is the word "insecure".
Nazrath2112 8y ago
Yes being with a married chick does allow you to watch what they do to hide it from the other side. Very easy to watch for the same thing if you are on the other side of it.
tpfr 8y ago
False. It's no thing for a woman to convince herself she's done nothing wrong. Typically there won't be any signs.
The only possible exception I can think of is if your girl is going out frequently and fucking multiple dudes a week. If it's gotten to that point, you had it coming.
The rest of your reply doesn't even make sense. Read more, post less.
stonepimpletilists 8y ago
who would go out for one dick, and then be done with it?
Nazrath2112 8y ago
You are confusing her thinking that she has done something wrong is the same as you being able to tell. These things are not exclusive.
Heres an easy telltail sign: Does she lock her phone when before she did not? When you first start with a chick make sure that she does not lock her phone around you. If she agrees to this but then starts to lock it later, thats a pretty good sign she is trying to hide something from you, which usually is about sex or money if you are a beta bitch.
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seattle1971 8y ago
That makes you just as bad as a cunt slut.
stonepimpletilists 8y ago
you may be wording it badly, but you make it sound like a scared little boy who doesn't have vision, and has to beat her to the punch.
Most men would just vett women better, or just not get into an LTR if they didn't expect anything.
GrandmasterHurricane 8y ago
That just makes you a scumbag.